Should have fucking been done day 1, he was obvscum by page 2.
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Do I have control of this slot finally?
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I got lynched in my game (ask your moronic brain damaged teammates about that, if you can comprehend their idiotic babbling) and LLD has been bitching about how much this game sucked basically since it started.ShowThat which is done out of love always takes place beyond good and evil
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In post 2141, Wisdom wrote:In post 2137, GreyICE wrote:Do I have control of this slot finally?
Vote: Cabd
Should have fucking been done day 1, he was obvscum by page 2.
Any other reads?
Sure. Rhinox is fucking obvtown, Cephrir is town, Kats is being cheeky scum.
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I said I'd hammer if you were at L-1, but I'd rather lynch scum.
How the fuck did that suffice to send you into a tailspin of panic posting? Good god, I couldn't have applied gentler pressure if I tried.ShowThat which is done out of love always takes place beyond good and evil
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Ceph is town for two reasons. First is the early miller claim. That's like a bloody obvious town tell. The only time I've seen scum claim miller first post is if they waited a few pages. Right out on like the second post of the game, not even waiting for counterclaim? Maybe if he got a miller fakeclaim, MAYBE. Frankly I'd probably townread on that alone, but if I had to describe his attitude it's DGAF. I don't see Cephir coming into team mafia, randomly rolling scum (no matter what his token assignments were) and then nonchalantly deciding to play DGAF piss-in-your-face scum. Most likely he's town.
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In post 2152, xRECKONERx wrote:Because you're being a raging cunt right now and it's really fucking offensive when you decide to just come into a game and make it personal for no fucking reason, and my posting was a way for me to try and neutralize the situation without responding at length about how much of a cunt you're being.
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In post 2162, shos wrote:GreyICE, read up, tell me what you think of Tboner; also, claiming miller is not yet alignment indicative imo but.. what do you think about claiming hated?
HOLY FUCK
The only thing you got out of it is it's "not alignment indicative"? How? There's multiple ways to claim miller! Lets go over a quick checklist:
1) Claimed super early in the game, first post -Town
2) Did not suggest Supah Sekret Powahs that went along with the miller role -Town
3) Did not use the miller claim to sit out the early game -Town
4) Has not been scumplaining about how no one trusts him just because he's a miller -Town
Miller claims come in many flavors. Everything above is bad flavor.
Notscience was Hated? Skimming ISO
1) Claimed later in the game, claimed not in first post
2) Modified claim later to avoid policy lynch.
3) Claim came with extra wibbits (Conditional)
Not fond of overall posting. Hated claim is null-scummy. Also missed the later modification of the claim, that's really damn bad
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T-Bone: No idea. Liked his posting for passion on the last few pages, I guess.ShowThat which is done out of love always takes place beyond good and evil
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In post 2161, Iecerint wrote:Just reread the start of D2, because you clearly missed the main important event today.
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In post 2170, Wisdom wrote:I repeat, scum miller is a viable role here. Why can't ceph have it?
It's not about the role. It's about how he claimed. I actually gave Shos a bullet point list of how I liked the behavior up above, I can't make it any clearer than that.
Anyway, this is taking up too much time. It wasn't the only reason for my town read (even though it's the one 100,000 posts have been made about) and it's in no way interesting. I just got out of an 80,000 post spamfest, lets not make a new one.
PEdit: He double tracked? Like a role that lets you track two people?
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In post 2175, Wisdom wrote:Grey you didn't answer to what sort of scumgame you would expect from Ceph
Probably if he was going to coast on a miller claim, hyper-townie reads-list/analysis type of discussion. Try and get in as the "obvtown miller" without doing much.
I've been spammed with a billion questions, please don't be Pirate Mollie.
PEdit: wat? So there's two trackers, and one sends the result to the wrong person?
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Wait, you're claiming roleblocker?
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In post 2191, T-Bone wrote:But I was v/la and LLD active lurked so you got it backwards.
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Okay, this stuff is making my eyes bleed. Shos, TBone, unless you're both scum and this is your method of making me hate my life, please stop. I just got out of the shittiest game of mafia I ever played in that featured more of this crap than any one human should have to handle.
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So much resistance to lynching obvious scum.
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Proof of claim is not proof of alignment.
Proof of claim is not proof of alignment.
Proof of claim is not proof of alignment.
Proof of claim is not proof of alignment.
Please write the above 1000 times on a chalkboard.
He claimed over three fucking posts, failed to put flavor in his claim before he'd seen two townflips, and then went back and specified that his role didn't work at L-1.
In post 859, Cabd wrote:Like the SECOND somebody posts, my ability to change their vote is lost until they get prodded again. I have to be online to tell magua to use my power between the prod and them posting to not get replaced. It's basically nearly vanilla, which sucks because I read it at first and got super excited and was thinking I could cause a fakehamer gambit or two with it.
In post 1362, Cabd wrote:My role specifies placing "what would be L-1 for that player" not just "L-1" as a "you can't move a vote to that wagon"
Just the role as mentioned, I didn't expect to be so absent/sick that I had to show it just as a show of good faith to get people less jump-down-throaty.
Too bad, IDGAF
In that order
In post 1374, Cabd wrote:"when the mod doesn't replace lurkers"
"limited role mover"
Still needs to claim before you debate hammering.
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Oh nevermind, he claimed right before Kats was lynched.
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I'm starting to think that "Confbias" is the new fucking useless word that means nothing. It can join "meta" and "misrep" as words that mean that every fucking thing the person says after them can be ignored.ShowThat which is done out of love always takes place beyond good and evil
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Yeah, except the claim was fucking scummy as shit.
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In post 2324, Wisdom wrote:In post 2322, GreyICE wrote:Yeah, except the claim was fucking scummy as shit.
No it was completely null
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In post 2336, Wisdom wrote:No I don't have information, I'm asking you what will happenifhe flips town
I need an "O RLY" owl.
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In post 2340, Wisdom wrote:Youre still not answering grey
When did it go from "when" to "if" Wisdom?
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Oh?
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In post 2364, TierShift wrote:Grey, 2235.
Hammering in 24 hours. If there are any objections, speak up.
Ah, missed that. I'll ask Lexi why she townreads Cabd, frankly I didn't feel like arguing with her, it's not like I'd ever win that one anyway. I can ask her tonight, but we have a guest coming, and she gives so little fucks about this game that I'm not sure anything useful will come.
Me personally, I scumread Cabd from what I first read of this game, and frankly jack shit has happened here to make me change my mind, except maybe Wisdom coming in and saying "What happenswhenCabd flips town!"
So I have a question, you scumread Cabd since early, according to your ISO.
In post 1433, TierShift wrote:All right, I think I'm caught up.
strong town
ceph
Iec
town
shos
NS- uhh this might be more null but I'm not putting this in scummy
mollie slot- ediie are you gonna do stuff today?
T-bone- I'm thinking this slot is on the right way, let's see where it goes.
scummy
Lady person
Rhino- town if cabd scum so maybe should be higher but I feel bad about his posts
lynch pls
reck
cabd
I really feel pretty good about cabd and reck being scum. I feel that both of them independently have a great chance of being scum and their interactions around cabd's readslist are telling.
VOTE: cabd
or reck whatever way this swings
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Notscience is town.
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Game, shmame.
Notscience is town.
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In post 2408, notscience wrote:I have no idae how it even happened, frankly.
In post 2392, Magua wrote:Vote Count 2.26 - Final
Cabd (6): xRECKONERx,notscience,Cephrir, Iecerint, GreyICE, shos
Whyyyyyy are you town....
*headdesk*
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Oh my fucking god, you are incredibly dense
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Yeah, it kinda doesn't work very well.
I'm the mod mistake where you don't replace players before the night ends (can I claim my role name?) and I can find out if the player has the ability to send a night action.
N1, LLD discovered that T-Bone can submit night actions.
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Anyway, I've read more of the game, and I still think Cephir is town. I'm sorry, I'm not willing to lynch on double miller claim in this fucking bizarre setup. And he's on VLA.
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Please, say you blocked me. This 1v1 will be fucking hysterical. Come on, you don't need your buddy's permission, do it!ShowThat which is done out of love always takes place beyond good and evil
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In post 2452, T-Bone wrote:But yeah I'll 1v1 you Grey because you are actually scum no matter how many times Wisdom says otherwise. I welcome my mislynch at your hands so that they can turn around and lynch you tomorrow.
Vote: GreyIce
preedit: Because his claim is SAFE AS FUCK considering I already outted my role yesterday. And then he targeted yet another player with a claim on the table. He's really breaking ground with his information.
Says the guy who targeted a player with a claimed role AND A DEAD PERSON
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Stop arguing with scum, Wisdom. It drags you down to their level and then you both look like shit. You're not going to convince them the mod gave them a red role PM, they know that.
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In post 2510, xRECKONERx wrote:I don't fucking know?
I dislike his claim re: Rhinox but uh
The whole random tracker thing is what's hanging me up. Why would he make up that HE RANDOMLY GOT A TRACKER RESULT? That's so batshit.
Oh also, Wisdom, what happened to NO WE ARE LYNCHING CEPH RA RA RA?
I think it's time to massclaim, honestly. There are a ton of claims out on the table already.
He probably got a random tracker result. There's probably a role where the mod delivers the result to the wrong player.
We are NOT massclaiming today, we are lynching scum today, and massclaiming tomorrow so they don't get even more information.
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In post 2531, xRECKONERx wrote:I think I'd probably rather lynch NS and see if it's true or not? Fuck IDK. Or lynch Grey directly and confirm a town.
You want to lynch me. To confirm a townie. Who could then be killed tonight.
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Think my towniness is gonna be pretty obvious once you're dead scum, TB. But feel free to go full Kagami on my ass, I've had recent practice.ShowThat which is done out of love always takes place beyond good and evil
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Let me put this clearly:
1) T-Bone claims there's a town tracker who delivers results to a random player
2) T-Bone claimed to roleblock Wisdom, a claimed player with a mediocre role yesterday
3) T-Bone claims to have targeted the dead guy. After thinking about it for a bit.
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In post 2552, Iecerint wrote:Though Grey, you should probably clarify whether your ability includes factional night actions.
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In post 2602, T-Bone wrote:Also, I blocked Grey so how did he get a night 1 result anyway?
Okay at a minimum can we wait for Cephrir to get back from VLA
because there's no fucking way we should be lynching him over T-Bone.
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In post 2634, TierShift wrote:Grey, again, why did you claim?
Got tired of the fuckery at day start.
For the record, LLD thought the role was shit and was going to mostly give us misleading results. That's why she took my suggestion on who to use it on. It says straight up that it can have results altered by other roles, and on top of that it's the home of the false positive. She doesn't put much stock in night actions (to be honest, neither do I, but giving the scum a godfather for this role would be hilarious and terrible, and if it was going to exist, it'd be some form of scum that can't submit a night kill so who gives a fuck about them anyway).ShowThat which is done out of love always takes place beyond good and evil
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Like, roles LLD cares about: Vig, scum, serial killer.
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What I see:
1) Bullshit about these points
2) Whining about the mod switching votes, which is probably some ass role that no one gives a fuck about. Or just general random points events fuckery, since it has literally zero mechanical effect
What I don't see:
1) Reasons to vote Cephrir beyond "holy fuck le miller" and "he hasn't done shit all game" (which is demonstrably untrue, he just hasn't done shit on his VLA)
2) T-Bone votes
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In post 2678, Iecerint wrote:Do you know whether she intentionally crumbed?
I doubt there was anything after what looks like a crumb in her first post but may or may not have been intentional.
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Poked and prodded. Asked questions and followed up. Avoided spending half the day talking about points and bullshit like that (HI IECERINT YOU ARE SITTING ON THE FENCE LIKE A MOTHERFUCKER). Although frankly looking at his ISO, it fell off day 2. The fact remains the miller being nonstandard fits nicely with my conditional ability text, and he was active and involved up until the VLA. And I had him down as solidly town on day 1.
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Here, T-Bone, I'll write it for you.
"Man, T-Bone was a shitty scum player. It's sad that he botched his claim badly two days in a row. Even his partner Iecerint couldn't bail him the fuck out in the scum QT, 'cause T-Bone was so fucking shit he couldn't even claim what Iecerint told him to claim. It's fucking awful I won't get to post this day 4 because I'm dead tonight."
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In post 2183, Iecerint wrote:I inferred track because he used language like "didn't perform the kill" and "null result," but I don't remember him actually using the T word I guess.
T-Bone, if there is no reason for being cagey (e.g., variance in ideal scum messing-with depending upon your claim), it is better to lock yourself into the specifics now.
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In post 2704, Iecerint wrote:In post 2681, GreyICE wrote:Now Iec, why the hell do you think T-Bone is town?
I don't. Where are you getting that?
In post 2082, Iecerint wrote:I think T-Bone is the least likely player in this game to be scum.
The actual fuck, Iecerint.
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In post 2709, Iecerint wrote:That's 700 posts ago, prior to T-Bone blocking Rhinox and Cabd flipping town.
T-Bone being scum basically requires Cephrir scum from my perspective, so the chance of him being scum is pretty low as it excluded lots of other potential pairings.
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So your miller is that you give the "worst possible result" to everything?
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In post 3135, Iecerint wrote:SCUM
Ceph
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Iecerint
GreyICE
shos
Wisdom
TierShift
notscience
Reckoner
TOWN
I've heard of putting yourself at the top of the town list. I've heard arguments over whether it's scummy.
What is this fucking nonsense.ShowThat which is done out of love always takes place beyond good and evil
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Doesn't Reck have -1 million? He's like top of Iecerint's list. Not that that means anything, if town's doing it, they should just out and say who they think is scum. What the mysterious "point controller" thinks is total bullshit and I can't bring myself to care.
Where is my T-Boner wagon? We have spent over a week trying to lynch the claimed scum roleblocker and have three fucking votes. Meanwhile the claimed scum godfather is acting like a clown and distracting everyone.ShowThat which is done out of love always takes place beyond good and evil
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fuck the points fuck the points lets lynch the scum roleblocker
the next person who says a goddamn word that doesn't involve tboner dying is getting fed to a bunch of angry sharks, in piecesShowThat which is done out of love always takes place beyond good and evil
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