In post 2152, pieguyn wrote:agreed. (also, what you pointed out about him no-killing is part of why I thought he'd be likely to be the one who no-killed in this scenario here)
In post 1570, Bins wrote:if boon is town ty for being the only person who truly understands me
In post 1572, Save The Dragons wrote:In post 1556, Boonskiies wrote:If I had to guess who was setting Bins [or whoever STD would have RB'd] up, it makes the most sense to be Delta.Delta wasn't voting Thor Day 1.He was on Trojan Horse, along with Mala. Looking back on that now, it looks as if they are trying hard to save their buddy by making a semi wagon turn into a full on counter wagon. Day 2, Delta was trying hard to protect Malakittens, under the radar.Delta was pushing for my lynch, which actually picked up near the end of the Day. 3 people were on Delta, Delta was the only one on me, and the rest lynched Mala. Delta makes the most sense as scum. (Unless Bins actually is scum, and legitimately got Roleblocked, but this was an easy setup for scum).
If you replace the word 'Delta' with 'Boons' then you have a reason why I'm just as wary of you if Bins isn't the scum.
In post 878, Egg wrote:So Thor alive Day 2 means:
A) Jason town, Thor town. Thor's eventual flip would confirm Jason.
B) Jason town, Thor scum
C) Thor and Jason scum.
Ok, so we only get info if Thor is town.
If we leave Trojan alive and he's town we get....................probably him lynched later anyway???
Lynching Thor is still too risky.
Fenchurch 3 minutes
In post 881, Egg wrote:I don't give a fuck about town points. I'm not lynching a hider claim
In post 882, Egg wrote:Fenchurch or sthar, vote trojan
In post 2180, Egg wrote:Boon, Cheet says he wants to work with Pie because Pie is the town read who he has the most experience with and, to put it nicely and in my own terms, she's more logical than someone like you and he's scumreading you.
In post 879, sthar8 wrote:Fucking vote Thor already, scumbag. Buy yourself some town points.
In post 1010, sthar8 wrote:In post 942, Egg wrote:Sthar, why don't you seem to think there is scum in {Boon/Mala/Vyse}?
Well, I already have two strong scumreads.
Beyond that, Boon is pretty damn town.Mala and Vyse are just now getting their heads in the game, and I'm willing to give them the space to do that. If they lapse into lurking or otherwise become unreadable we can talk about them.
town are {jason, boon, STD}
scum are {egg, delta}
@pie- you don't think that Egg wouldn't be tempted to jump Thor's obviously sinking ship to be a part of an otherwise all-town wagon? Even under pressure, when he knew that he was visibly active at deadline?
In post 1253, sthar8 wrote:In post 1223, Save The Dragons wrote:sthar8 old buddy old pal ol' chum
In post 1152, Save The Dragons wrote:I don't actually see a strong case on Egg by you, can you clarify (or point me to) your case?
OK so
1. Egg spent day1 making easy wagon pushes, but his reads didn't evolve with new information or change with pushback, except to get ignored in favor of more likely wagons.
2. bullshit semantics intentionally frustrating arguments
3. Defense of Thor, mostly for bullshit claim reasons that were unevenly applied to jason
4. no scumhunting
5. "I wouldn't hammer a buddy to get townread" -Egg "Egg can't be scum, he hammered Thor"- pie
6. His lynch pool today are two proficiency lynches and a lurker push. On day 2. After a scumflip.
7. Hard defense of delta for shitty reasons after a scumflip. He's either protecting his buddy or trying to look like he's protecting his buddy.
I've been functionally mobile for four days, so no links. If you need specifics, ask please.
In post 1246, Egg wrote:Is it too late to lynch Boon?
Holy opportunism.
In post 1797, Egg wrote:Pie's reads have been pretty solid this game. Just sayin'
In post 953, pieguyn wrote:In post 932, SleepyKrew wrote:(also, not hammering there and then a later Thor scumflip would've been pretty damning)
this is one of the reasons she thinks Boon is town, since Boon is known for lolquickhammering in most of his games; ergo, Boon-scum NOT hammering would be stupid. he wouldn't be able to get away with not hammering since everyone would figure it out and place him under scrutiny for it. on the other hand, Boon-town does whatever the hell he wants, so it makes more sense.
it's the opposite of Egg, who she thinks is town specifically bche's the type of player who she thinks could get away with letting it go to a no lynch as scum.
she also thinks Boon is acting a lot like late game in Drawn on Arrival, so there's meta reasons behind it.
In post 1096, Egg wrote:Honestly, that looks like a better "Boon is scum" case than "Boon and mala could be buddies" case. It doesn't really change my mind on anything.
In post 2197, pieguyn wrote:also I still don't find you claiming "I WOULD HAVE DONE THIS AS SCUM" convincing
as I said, I think you're explicitly playing to the exact opposite of your scum meta here
In post 2205, Boonskiies wrote:Egg will talk you out of lynching him tomorrow, I guarantee it. You will take advantage of that doubt in your town reads...and he'll be able to convince you. If I was scum, I wouldn't be able to fucking convince you to vote anyone else...I JUST FUCKING CLEARED EVERYONE. GOD DAMN PIE.
In post 2213, Egg wrote:Boon, saying that pushing your lynch if I was scum is the best move is BS. You and I are the clear 1v1 here and if I was scum I'm smart enough to realize I'd be dumb. Casting doubt on obvtowns like sthar, Trojan, and Delta would make more sense.
Boon wrote: I want to be alive in the endgame...
Neither you or I is getting that or should want it as town. Should this game get to LYLO *knock on wood*, we are both lynch targets. I don't want to get lynched in LYLO so I'd kind of like to be dead before that. I'd be upset if you made it that far as well although that's mostly because if you are town I have to break out my tinfoil hat to figure out who is scum so it pretty much has to be you.
In post 2174, Trojan Horse wrote:
Let me quote one of my earlier posts:
In post 1791, Trojan Horse wrote:Alright, let me take a shot at this.
I'm going to make a (probably stupid) assumption, and guess that scum would not have bussed each other during day 2. (Unless both scum came under pressure; then they'd pretty much have no choice but to do some bussing.) It would've been a risky move, with one scum lynched Day 1; top priority is keeping both remaining scum alive. They could do some bussing later, but not right then.
Under my horrible assumption, pie, SK, and Egg are all town. (I'm not counting sthar here, who fought against Mala's lynch until right before she claimed.) Let's also assume jason/Zach is scum, due to play balance and all that. That leaves Boon, sthar, and Delta.
I still think that scum would've tried as best they could to avoid a scumlynch during day 2. However, looking back at that day, I see that Mala already had 3 votes when Egg voted for her, and I had already said that I might be a 4th. Perhaps Egg's vote wasn't a bus, but an attempt to avoid suspicion himself.
There was also the fact that Mala called both Delta and Egg likely scum, and then voted for Delta. Considering the danger Mala was in at that point, I don't think she would've said that she had a solid townread on her scummate. That would just be setting up her scummate to be lynched as well. (So, Boon is probably not the last scum.) But calling her scummate a likely scum, while going for someone else... that makes total sense.
I could dig up some more things, but really, it's a general scumvibe I get from Egg's iso. (Oversoul is saying the same thing.) And since I no longer think Egg's vote of Mala is evidence that Egg is town, I think Egg is the likeliest to be scum.
In post 2219, Egg wrote:In post 2217, Trojan Horse wrote:Three days left. We need to start coming to a consensus.
Sthar, who's your top scumpick now, and why?
Delta, same question.
(I think I know what you both are going to say, but I'll wait until you make it official.)
Just lynch Boon tomorrow. If I have to, I'll self vote to avoid no lynch so we aren't in the same spot tomorrow minus the NK.
In post 2239, DeltaWave wrote:A boon lynch is essentially a policy lynch at this point but I'm not seeing many other choices.
In post 2246, sthar8 wrote:In post 2235, sthar8 wrote:In post 2168, Boonskiies wrote:@Sthar - Get Antihero or TellTaleHeart to read me. If you are town, they'll surely see this as my town game.
Still waiting on this.
Science twins update: TTH says she doesn't think you've ever been town in a game with her. Antihero agreed, then said you'd been town in a game with Heartless, then said you hadn't made much impression.
In post 2274, Trojan Horse wrote:In post 2271, Boonskiies wrote:Pie just can't get over the possibility of losing to ScumBoon, so she's not going to change her vote Trojan. She's just tunneling with a stick up her butt so she doesn't have to do any actual work. GuyInFreezer wanted me to tell her to stop being lazy since she will probably be the kill toNight anyways. Although, if I was scum, I feel it'd be smart to keep her alive considering how bad she's playing toDay.
And Boon is once again making it hard for me not to vote for him... sigh...
If sthar has no interest in lynching Delta, then I'll give it up for now. But let's see what he says.