Newbie 2075: Icecream Cake (Game Over)

[Looker]

Why haven't you guys voted off the person who's strategy was literally "role fish"?
VOTE: Cook

[Looker]

Sorry.

IS

role-fish. She did it twice.

Spoiler:

hello everyone! i have been working on a strategy so that we can narrow down the initial setup incredibly quickly, and while we're at it, clear a bunch of players and generally make it much harder for scum to beat us.

to execute this strategy, i'm going to ask:

If there is a Tracker, claim now.

once that tracker claims, protective,

be on that Tracker.

Tracker, post results.

if there's no tracker then we have a fairly normal day one.

Spoiler:

alright, cop/mason faking cop, you have (expired on 2021-08-21 13:43:47) to claim.

get a friendly neighbor message? you have (expired on 2021-08-21 13:43:47) to claim it.

[Looker]

Why haven't you guys voted off the person who's strategy was literally "role fish"?
VOTE: Cook

There are 2 universes.
Town navigator is lrgit suspicious of Cook.
Scum navigator thinks "oh shit, cook broke the game. PANIKKKKKKKKK"

Or universe 3: demanding people reveal power roles as your first post is a really bad move from either alignment and I want to avoid losing two games in a row lol

legit i joined a newbie game because i wanted to try to break newd3 and came up with this strategy and wanted to see if it'd work.

Spoiler: So I take it you support Cook's role-fishing

Cook:

Town, based on off-site meta. Though I think this strategy would be better off being tested in a normal game where the whole point is to try and break newD3, not in a newbie game. That being said, I'm not the tracker.

Owl - I thought the initial reads list was kind of early. I don't know what to think of that yet.

Why focus on this and not how I've been defending Cook, who you've got written down as scum? Personally I'd find the latter far more alarming.

Likely vanillas:

Cook

- I don't think she's mafia, for reasons that I have already explained, and if she had a power role, she would be participating in her strategy.

[Looker]

I've learned to take T3's judgement with a grain of salt. Also, I have my own brain.

[Looker]

What do

you

think of it, non-voter?

[Looker]

Both of your opening posts to the day seemed weird. Personally Id rather look at the last 2 counterwagons to the

mislynch

becasue odds are scum are there and both of you seemed to not want to do that.

Do you want Quiet Owl or do you want Dorsey? To whom were you referring with this?

[Looker]

So you're willing to vote Cook with me?

[Looker]

Especially so close to deadline

[Looker]

I really don’t know if this is t3’s town meta

So you think it's T3 and who? Who's their partner?

[Looker]

What's the likelihood of it being Quiet Owl and Whemestar? Daystart bus for towncred? Or T3 and Whemestar? One active, one lurk?

[Looker]

I really don’t know if this is t3’s town meta

It's actually not, ftr. This thought was real.

How long until you consolidate onto one of the bigger wagons for an elim

[Looker]

This is why lurkers are worthless

[Looker]

votecount

Looker (1)

: MegAzumarill

Cook (3)

: Looker, WhemeStar, Dorsey

MegAzumarill (3)

: T3, Cook, Quiet Owl

With 7 alive, 4 votes to eliminate

4 hours remaining until deadline


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[Looker]

We can't do Meg cuz Meg is friendly neighbor

you've earned a vote tomorrow.

From you?

[Looker]

I tried

[Looker]

I tried so hard

[Looker]

But in the end

[Looker]

Silence

So, were we right?

[Looker]

What's the something that's not right

[Looker]

I see, but Meg missed the whole day. That sucks.

[Looker]

I'm confused. Where is the rolecop claim?

[Looker]

What's the something that's not right

Dorsey claiming mafia rolecop moment

I still don't understand what this was about.

Spoiler:

Dorsey,

Town Mason

, was eliminated Night 2.

Day 3 deadline: (expired on 2021-09-06 18:54:06)

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That should've been MEG!

VOTE: WhemeStar It's suspicious that Cook didn't want to vote you when your wagon was right there. Also, it took a lot of persistence to get you to vote her. If it's not you then I feel it could be T3 because the rolecop thing seemed kind of TMI - especially knowing now that Dorsey was bluffing. How would T3 know if something wasn't right if he didn't already know the mafia roles? Also, the coming in last to hammer thing is reminiscent of the Sea Monkey elim (this one's not so suspicious).

[Looker]

Also @mod I didn't get a daystart notice so you may want to send those out.

I got a daystart pm

[Looker]

h u h

This is not a very elaborative response.

Also, it took a lot of persistence to get you to vote her.

Pretty sure this is a flat out lie

It's moreso it took a lot of persistence to get you to vote at all.

Assuming that Dorsey's role confirms Meg as town, this leaves only one person in my suspicion pile. VOTE: Whemestar

Now I'm suspicious because you wouldn't vote Cook either.

VOTE: T3 That'd be pretty dope if it actually was T3 and Cook.

[Looker]

How did you know that before Dorsey flipped mason

[Looker]

How did you know that before Dorsey flipped mason

I didn't.
VOTE: quiet lwo

Then what was this?

Spoiler:

We can't do Meg cuz Meg is friendly neighbor

Since when was this common knowledge??

hold up
wait a minute
something ain't right

What's the something that's not right

Dorsey claiming mafia rolecop moment

How did you know that something wasn't right with Dorsey's claim before she flipped? Did Cook coach you in the scum thread (as she was around at that point) after you made that post (539)?

[Looker]

And why are you voting Quiet Owl?

[Looker]

And why are you voting Quiet Owl?

[Looker]

Also, do scum have a roleblocker or do they have two goons now that Dorsey has flipped?

[Looker]

Also, do scum have a roleblocker or do they have two goons now that Dorsey has flipped?

Impossible to tell.

[Looker]

Ignore it - it wasn't for you. Just say something worthwhile and state your case so we can move on.

I don't see me changing my vote, so don't expect me around as much. Unless you guys have some kind of critical analysis you'd like to share

[Looker]

Why

[Looker]

Other than they're the ones already being voted for

[Looker]

It sounds very uncertain and wishy-washy. It sounds convenient.

[Looker]

Your choice to use meta in some instances but not in others.

[Looker]

But you're going to "still fall back on it" because you have "a lot of experience" with T3

[Looker]

So you're not going to use it but you're going to use it

[Looker]

Yes

[Looker]

Unless he votes, then I'll vote/kill whoever he votes.

[Looker]

Again, you were wrong yesterday and you're probably wrong again. I appreciate the consistent posting, though.

[Looker]

VOTE: WhemeStar

[Looker]

Then why not just say that from the beginning?

@Meg: Why do you feel Cook avoided voting for WhemeStar when she could've saved herself?

Also, @Wheme: You being 'annoyed' is irrelevant - appeal to emotion is futile.

[Looker]

VOTE: looker

Because you're "annoyed" or because I started the wagon on your partner and killed her out of nowhere?

I was going to wait and let a newbie push you for their ego and stuff, but I keep forgetting this is the slowest game in history so I'll do whatever I gotta do to get it over. Even if it means forcing you to show how you're not really scumhunting, just placating enough to survive.

Trying to vote someone off based on personal appeal won't save you this time. Sorry.

[Looker]

Lmao you're gonna die

[Looker]

@Meg: Why do you feel Cook avoided voting for WhemeStar when she could've saved herself?

Before you do, though, can you respond to this? I'm just curious what's going through your head now that you're here.

[Looker]

Spoiler:

Both of your opening posts to the day seemed weird. Personally Id rather look at the last 2 counterwagons to the

mislynch

becasue odds are scum are there and both of you seemed to not want to do that.

Do you want Quiet Owl or do you want Dorsey? To whom were you referring with this?

I was referring to cook and T3

So you're willing to vote Cook with me?

Especially so close to deadline

VOTE: Cook

I think I like this

Eh idk actually

I really don’t know if this is t3’s town meta

I really don’t know if this is t3’s town meta

So you think it's T3 and who? Who's their partner?

I really don’t know if this is t3’s town meta

So you think it's T3 and who? Who's their partner?

I don’t know I don’t partner hunt

WhemeStar had to be coaxed into voting Cook and only did so because he couldn't find a non-suspicious reason not to, even though he tried to weasel out of it by saying T3 was suspicious but couldn't come up with an actual reason why.

But you see how I'm using actual posts and references to explain why he's suspicious? Not "meta" or "vibes"? I'm just saying, you should try it.

[Looker]

Having T3 as a reference isn't as big a flex as you think it is And even if you quoted a post from the meta'd game, it'd be more credibility than just "trust me". Because I don't.

All of us standing around saying "Believe me" isn't going to make for a very fun game. I think Cook screwed you when she didn't vote for you - she should've bussed like you did. You're the superior player here.

[Looker]

Why didn't you guys use Meg's parked vote on me while they were V/LA? You could've said "Psyche played like shit" or something along those lines to elim me.

[Looker]

And why did you kill Kerset? She never posted anything. I would've killed Dorsey first. Always kill the talkative ones.

[Looker]

No

[Looker]

Check the votecount at the time of decision and take that into consideration. Dorsey had WhemeStar's elimination on a platter for her.

[Looker]

And how can pressure be undeserved? It's a game of mafia - whose alignment do you know other than the mason partner you allowed to die?

[Looker]

Cook didn't give us that courtesy

[Looker]

Lol @ T3

[Looker]

It's either die now or die tomorrow. Once you kill Quiet Owl and Meg the Missing Mason, I'm never voting for T3 tomorrow. Too many people tried to kill him at the beginning of the game, to include you and Cook. And T3's not going to vote for me when you're still alive. GG.

[Looker]

Either way, we win. I'm town, you're town. I was suspicious at first, but then I remembered you're a newbie and everything made sense. He has to kill Meg tonight - he doesn't have a choice.

Is this discussion a display of bad sportsmanship?

[Looker]

I hammer owl tomorrow if he's not

[Looker]

Just consider it a permanent V/LA

[Looker]

[Looker]

There is no dead PT.

Is there a mafia PT?

[Looker]

guys i hammered scum

Reluctantly...twice...