Newbie 2075: Icecream Cake (Game Over)

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VOTE: psyche

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my votes probably bad but i will stick to it for now.

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How are you psyche

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Is that vote RVS?

Yah I voted without reading anything

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VOTE: T3

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T3’s spam is NAI I think

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Retracting vote for now due to bad gut feeling.
VOTE: No elimination

Do you not have anyone you want to vote?

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VOTE: Ben

great vote Meg

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Glad we are having some great discussion here guys.
Game is just zooming on by.

Do you think you have posted content?

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Glad we are having some great discussion here guys.
Game is just zooming on by.

Psyche – low content and mostly seems reactive. from King's New Robes, even as a replace-in, Psyche is fairly high-content as town.

it's easier not harder to produce content as a replace-in

Psyche May i interest you in a wagon on Ben?

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Nice another vote

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Yeah join up

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Best way to generate content is to get a wagon on someone

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if so, please feel welcome to join me on the adventure of a lifetime! there will be cookies

My adventure is more glamorous you should come over here

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I wouldnt have claimed yet.

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Retracting vote for now due to bad gut feeling.
VOTE: No elimination

Do you not have anyone you want to vote?

I am suspicious of both navigatorv and T3, but I don't think there's enough proof to eliminate anyone yet. I have retracted my vote since T3 has started actively trying to get people to vote navigatorv- which could be a scum move. Or it could be town. I cannot tell which.

wow very big brain observation

Had an antagoniser in my first game. So much hassle.

Almost want to vote T3 so I don't have to deal with him for the next 10 days irl..

This post screams scum to me does no 1 else think so

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And then he goes away after 2 votes gets placed on him idk

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Because it looks like he has a town lean on t3 but doesn’t mind voting him out

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Hii

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Are we going to eliminate T3 without looking at anyone else then? This seems unwise.

Who said anything like that

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Oh did sea monkey replace ben

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UNVOTE:

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I've been trying to read and guess who's evil. This is what I have so far.

T3 - I think the mafia are T3 and Cook
ben - I like ben
Psyche - Seems pretty standard
Cook - I think the tracker claim thing was weird and exploitative
Kerset - I really like Kerset
Wheme - Okay I guess, but kind of iffy
Owl - I thought the initial reads list was kind of early. I don't know what to think of that yet.
Mega - Kind of quiet/hypocritical, asking for discussion but not asking any questions

If I could investigate someone, it would be Kerset because I want her on my side. And you shouldn't vote me off because then we would lose.

Can you elaborate on cook and Ben please?
VOTE: Cook

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Oh god I fucked that up

Dorsey can you elaborate on cook and Ben please?

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256 257 258 confuse me. I dont see the thought process

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less content than

this

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WOAH WOAH WOAH SLOW GAME IS SLOW

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whose to say their srat isnt seeing if people will town read them because they're going for a more mechincal math science biology smart guy angle

But how does answering your question result in you voting them? I don’t see your logic with the vote

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So what I gleaned was...
- Psyche actually doesn't prefer anyone - they just want to appear involved
- Wheme doesn't actually have any opinions of the thread - with a stagnant game and Wheme not voting, this would align with the theory of mafia waiting off of a miselim if that's your thought process

My question is: What's the point of saying what you think scum would do before they have the opportunity to do it?

Not really a fan of cook or t3 wagon

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I’m probably tunneling on sea monkey but that’s where I want to go

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Same about sea monkey

VOTE: sea monkey

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Say my name next time

I Stand by that vote

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YO

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Sucks I was wrong but oh well

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Going into night 1 I was thinking psyche scum but he has shot up in my townreads today

From these last 2 pages 390 and 392 are major red flags for me and that’s where I want to look more into

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I don’t think they can both be scum though I think one of them is a partner with cook or t3

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So out of 7 remaining players, you're scumreading 4. Which posts breed confidence in Psyche and Quiet Owl for you? As in how has Psyche shot up?

Idk psyche good posting today

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Both of your opening posts to the day seemed weird. Personally Id rather look at the last 2 counterwagons to the mislynch becasue odds are scum are there and both of you seemed to not want to do that.

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AHHH I KEEP FORGETTING SRY MOD AND OTHERS

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AHHH I KEEP FORGETTING SRY MOD AND OTHERS

Why not subscribe to the topic so you get email notifications when there's new posts?

Was talking about my use of a banned word

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I don’t think cook has posted anything besides setup spec

Setup spec is scummy

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Yes really

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Regarding T3 vs MegaZum - are SE's supposed to be helping newbies? Also, how can you tell the difference between someone who's trying to hide that their scum in a game versus someone who never posts anywhere?

I’m sorry I don’t really understand what you’re asking here

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Are prods being delayed due to weekend?

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Same thing with Quiet Owl - I'm trying to digest this concept of pro-town PR hunting. If you out town!Psyche as PR, doesn't he just die and we lose him? Also, I don't think T3 is town, but I'm willing to compromise on Whemestar.

How about I dump my theory here then. We have either five or six vanillas and two mafia. Even if Psyche dies, if I'm right about Meg and Wheme, then we've won the game.

Confirmed vanillas:

sea monkey

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Kerset

Likely vanillas:

T3

- Claimed vanilla earlier. Reads more like "oh my god i give up" than "ah shit i've been caught". Very weak reason, but it exists.

Cook

- I don't think she's mafia, for reasons that I have already explained, and if she had a power role, she would be participating in her strategy.

Roles unknown:

Myself

- No I'm not going to be roleclaiming, for obvious reasons!

Psyche

- Town sabotaging town by doing very little. I am putting them as town because they seem to be genuinely frustrated with the game and they're a possible PR. But if you're that disappointed in the game, why aren't you replacing out?

Dorsey

- Town! The towniest of towns.

Null reads:

Meg and Wheme

- The only two people who I can't and probably never will be able to read in this game. Since everyone else reads as town, I will assume that these two are the two mafia. VOTE: WhemeStar

Looking back at it this read list is weird. Are Meg and I your two scumreads? Why do you have us as null and not scum? Are we null and you have no scumreads? Why do you think the 2 clunterwagoks to a town miselim are both town. Do you think town was way off day 1?

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Can you explain how killing you frames them?

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Same thing with Quiet Owl - I'm trying to digest this concept of pro-town PR hunting. If you out town!Psyche as PR, doesn't he just die and we lose him? Also, I don't think T3 is town, but I'm willing to compromise on Whemestar.

How about I dump my theory here then. We have either five or six vanillas and two mafia. Even if Psyche dies, if I'm right about Meg and Wheme, then we've won the game.

Confirmed vanillas:

sea monkey

,

Kerset

Likely vanillas:

T3

- Claimed vanilla earlier. Reads more like "oh my god i give up" than "ah shit i've been caught". Very weak reason, but it exists.

Cook

- I don't think she's mafia, for reasons that I have already explained, and if she had a power role, she would be participating in her strategy.

Roles unknown:

Myself

- No I'm not going to be roleclaiming, for obvious reasons!

Psyche

- Town sabotaging town by doing very little. I am putting them as town because they seem to be genuinely frustrated with the game and they're a possible PR. But if you're that disappointed in the game, why aren't you replacing out?

Dorsey

- Town! The towniest of towns.

Null reads:

Meg and Wheme

- The only two people who I can't and probably never will be able to read in this game. Since everyone else reads as town, I will assume that these two are the two mafia. VOTE: WhemeStar

Looking back at it this read list is weird. Are Meg and I your two scumreads? Why do you have us as null and not scum? Are we null and you have no scumreads? Why do you think the 2 clunterwagoks to a town miselim are both town. Do you think town was way off day 1?

The list is the result of townhunting. I have no scumreads, but I can't read either of you at all which makes me suspect you're scum doing the bare minimum to stay in the game.
I explained my reasoning for Psyche and Cook.
What do you mean by way off? In hindsight I think the sea monkey wagon was a very bad idea, if that's what you meant.

I mean by thinking that all 3 wagons from day 1 were town

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you're scum doing the bare minimum to stay in the game.

Is this how you think scum would play this game?

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Welcome to the game looker

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T3 called it townie. What do you think of that

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Both of your opening posts to the day seemed weird. Personally Id rather look at the last 2 counterwagons to the

mislynch

becasue odds are scum are there and both of you seemed to not want to do that.

Do you want Quiet Owl or do you want Dorsey? To whom were you referring with this?

I was referring to cook and T3

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VOTE: Cook

I think I like this

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Eh idk actually

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I really don’t know if this is t3’s town meta

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I really don’t know if this is t3’s town meta

So you think it's T3 and who? Who's their partner?

I don’t know I don’t partner hunt

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Also, it took a lot of persistence to get you to vote her.

Pretty sure this is a flat out lie

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Also, it took a lot of persistence to get you to vote her.

Pretty sure this is a flat out lie

You were the second person out of the four votes. Wouldn't call that persistence.

Soo you agree with me?

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Assuming that Dorsey's role confirms Meg as town, this leaves only one person in my suspicion pile. VOTE: Whemestar

Now I'm suspicious because you wouldn't vote Cook either.

VOTE: T3 That'd be pretty dope if it actually was T3 and Cook.

Yeah I was very wrong. There were three possibilities and Occam's razor failed me.

What’s occam razor?

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It also points toward QO as Cook's partner

Why do you think this

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Also, do scum have a roleblocker or do they have two goons now that Dorsey has flipped?

This is a weird question

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The question was for T3?

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I think your town from psyche play/cook wagon but honestly idfk

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One of t3 or QO

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Why

Because I don’t think your scum

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I need to reread quiet owls stuff but t3 didn’t give me scum vibes while not playing to his town meta so I’m not sure.

Perhaps he didn’t play to his meta since this is a newbie game I don’t know

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I don’t know it’s usually how I play the game

Part of the reason I play newbie games is to stop relying on meta when it comes to reading people but still fall back on it when I have a lot experience with someone like T3

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And it usually works so

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What does

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That’s not what I said though

My main way to read people is to use meta. I play newbie games to try and deviate from using meta as I think learning how to not use meta would be good for my game

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Yeah it’s easier to meta someone when I know how they play

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VOTE: QUIETOWL

T3 why are you playing different this game?

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So you're not going to use it but you're going to use it

Okay sure I don't know why you are so picky or whatever about this but its kind of annoying and idk why it matters
Of course I am going to resort to my usual way of reading people if I have a lot of experience with that person like what

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I can get way stronger reads on someone if I have expierence with them which helps town win the game

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Thats literally what I was saying though like what

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VOTE: looker

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Because you're "annoyed" or because I started the wagon on your partner and killed her out of nowhere?

If I was their partner I wouldn’t have voted them there. I actually have 0 reason to vote them there

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Spoiler:

Both of your opening posts to the day seemed weird. Personally Id rather look at the last 2 counterwagons to the

mislynch

becasue odds are scum are there and both of you seemed to not want to do that.

Do you want Quiet Owl or do you want Dorsey? To whom were you referring with this?

I was referring to cook and T3

So you're willing to vote Cook with me?

Especially so close to deadline

VOTE: Cook

I think I like this

Eh idk actually

I really don’t know if this is t3’s town meta

I really don’t know if this is t3’s town meta

So you think it's T3 and who? Who's their partner?

I really don’t know if this is t3’s town meta

So you think it's T3 and who? Who's their partner?

I don’t know I don’t partner hunt

WhemeStar had to be coaxed into voting Cook and only did so because he couldn't find a non-suspicious reason not to, even though he tried to weasel out of it by saying T3 was suspicious but couldn't come up with an actual reason why.

But you see how I'm using actual posts and references to explain why he's suspicious? Not "meta" or "vibes"? I'm just saying, you should try it.[/quote


In your opinion is the only/correct way to play mafia making cases by quoting posts?

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What the fuck

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Spoiler:

Both of your opening posts to the day seemed weird. Personally Id rather look at the last 2 counterwagons to the

mislynch

becasue odds are scum are there and both of you seemed to not want to do that.

Do you want Quiet Owl or do you want Dorsey? To whom were you referring with this?

I was referring to cook and T3

So you're willing to vote Cook with me?

Especially so close to deadline

VOTE: Cook

I think I like this

Eh idk actually

I really don’t know if this is t3’s town meta

I really don’t know if this is t3’s town meta

So you think it's T3 and who? Who's their partner?

I really don’t know if this is t3’s town meta

So you think it's T3 and who? Who's their partner?

I don’t know I don’t partner hunt

WhemeStar had to be coaxed into voting Cook and only did so because he couldn't find a non-suspicious reason not to, even though he tried to weasel out of it by saying T3 was suspicious but couldn't come up with an actual reason why.

But you see how I'm using actual posts and references to explain why he's suspicious? Not "meta" or "vibes"? I'm just saying, you should try it.

In your opinion is the only/correct way to play mafia making cases and quoting posts?

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WhemeStar had to be coaxed into voting Cook and only did so because he couldn't find a non-suspicious reason not to, even though he tried to weasel out of it by saying T3 was suspicious but couldn't come up with an actual reason why.

1 post from you asking me to be your second vote on the wagon isnt “coaxing”

Did you forget to mention that T3 backed up my meta read on him? That’s not me just making stuff up lmao

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Gg sorry I played bad probably not the best experience for newbies gg looker replace in was clutch for town