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Okay, what about discussing Kitty's alignment? Do you think he is town?In post 386, Wayward Son wrote:@ NJAC I'd leave discussion about that until closer to the end of the Day.
I'll be on in about 4ish hours.
BTW, forum Mafia is expected to be played asynchronously, so it's not necessary to wait for others to be online to have interactions.-
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Okay. It's good to know that you have free time. So, who are the scum and why?In post 389, KittyTacky wrote: I actually have free time now, I was just busy before and now I simply forgot.-
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1) I'm still working on it. Some of my initial reads while catching up were wrong, so I'm reconsidering my reads on everyone. I shared most of the reads and thoughts from Greeting on D1, except that I would probably have insisted more on not limming Calum/T3 slot. Greeting is probably town, same with Wayward though I'm still undecided. You and Kitty are harder to read. And the others, I need more input from them.In post 391, Salsabil Faria wrote:@NJAC, you caught up from the D1 I suppose, who do you think is likely to be scums? And does yourKittyscumread only based on low activity?
2) Nope. I'm not convinced that Kitty's only suspect during the whole D1 was Calum/T3 slot, and he didn't even considered that Calum was just a newbie who wasn't sure how to play and handle the suspicions on him. Also Kitty didn't seem interested in solving the game.-
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1) Yep, I know that you said you had done some meta research, but that doesn't answer my question. I asked if you think Kitty is town or not.In post 392, Wayward Son wrote: I've read games where Kitty was both Town and Scum, and I'm not ready to lim LHF.
Also, you were a Town read of mine (before replacement), thoughts on that?
2) My thoughts on that is that you were right. I think my predecessor was doing a good job. If you want me to comment anything else about it let me know.-
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Thanks for the welcome.In post 398, Greeting wrote:[quote="In post 384
Greetings,NJAC. Welcome back!
I have already spoken about this, but here’s a tl;dr version:
I have nullread Calum and firmly wanted to believe that the slot was just lost, misguided town. Reason for this being the fact that I have player many Newbie games here and most of them had players like that. I am more lenient towards actual newbies than SEs, because these games are supposed to be providing a good learning experience for those who may not have it.
Then,T3subbed in, and started catching up. His catchup was extremely long, the post content felt chaotic and inconsistent, the catchup, also, in my opinion, lacked definition conclusions about the gamestate. I decided that his push on me must be motivated by something else rather than „scumreading” me as the basis of his argument was one post I made, 23.T3’s miselimination was unfortunate, but likely inevitable.
And, fair enough, I think I understand your reasons. Just a couple of questions more about this:
1) Did you consider that T3 was a good replacement and beneficial to the game, given that he was being active and seemed to be putting some work to solve the game? Did you consider that he was also still a newbie?
2) Why did you say you were tired of D1 and kind of wanted to end it soon, when there were replacements taking place, and considering that the deadline was frozen it could be beneficial to have more input from the replaced in players, before taking a final decision?-
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Please elaborateIn post 408, Enchant wrote:Greeting is manipulative from first post in game, i don't really see how Greeting can be town.-
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I forgot to mention about Kitty, and it was another reason to vote him, that this first post on D2 in which he says he "forgot" about the game, looks to me like an excuse in advance so he can prove that he didn't do anything in the game during the night phase. But if he really forgot it, why bothering mentioning this instead of just catching up (supposing he was not fully caught up at that moment, which I don't see why, because it's not like a lot happened since his last post)?In post 383, KittyTacky wrote:I forgor about this game, will catch up and respond tomorrow morning.-
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So, you have played with him several times, and have never seen him posting anything like that before as town, but only as scum, right?In post 413, Enchant wrote: I just feel Greeting!Town doesh't post "Hello newbies if you are green we are in same team".-
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@In post 404, NJAC wrote: 2) I'm not convinced that Kitty's only suspect during the whole D1 was Calum/T3 slot, and he didn't even considered that Calum was just a newbie who wasn't sure how to play and handle the suspicions on him. Also Kitty didn't seem interested in solving the game.Kittyyou commented about my 412, but can you please also comment about my 404, specifically what I quoted above?-
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Please explain your theory, as detailed as you can.In post 438, Enchant wrote: Greeting+NJAC are mafia team.-
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More than 11 hours without a post. I'm worried about the activity in the game.
@Town: we need to increase activity. We only have 3 days to make a decision on who to Lim.
Last time I played on this site (several years ago) day phase used to last two weeks, but now I see a shorter time, which, together with the low activity, could be detrimental for the town.-
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While I can see why some players might see Greeting scummy, I think Enchant's case on him is very weak. According to Enchant, Greeting posting: "if you're green you are on my team" can only come from scum!Greeting, but I don't really see why it can't come from town!Greeting.In post 457, Wayward Son wrote: @ NJAC what's your opinion on Enchant's solve?
Then Enchant says that I'm white knighting Greeting, and that it makes me his partner, but according to my experience scum can either defend their partners, keep distance or even bus each other, so without a flip looking for associations can hardly lead to the scum pair, and even with a red flip it's important to read each player's thoughts, motivations, interactions, votes and behavior, before deciding on the scum pair.-
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@Mod: will the deadline be frozen until a replacement is found?
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Why?In post 464, Wayward Son wrote:Gun to head Kitty and NJAC?
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But why me first? According to you I'm scum for white knighting Greeting, so I'm scum IF Greeting is scum, right?In post 465, Enchant wrote: On NJAC i agree.
We can elim him first instead if you insist, though Greeting probably will get away and decimate you if i die.
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This is not how it works, if you're voting me and willing to Lim me you should explain your reasons about why you think I'm scum.
What do you expect me to answer? I know I'm not maf.
But okay, I suppose that's your approach to the game, you expect others to do the job for you. So, to give an answer to you, consider this:
I'm trying to solve the game, I'm active and contributing, I'm playing with a town mindset trying to read intentions and generating interactions and reactions. Add to that what my predecessor did and you'll have your answer.-
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So, your "case" on me is you don't feel my heart and I talk like a lawyer, right?In post 483, Enchant wrote:Yea it's cool words. But i don't feel you heart.
From first post to last, you talk like lawyer, talking about importance interactions, and other things. I certainly love law language, but your case is eeeeeeeeh.
Idk maybe it's YOUR style, but fuck it.
Well, if you're town, let me tell you that you are not one of the best townies I've played with.
And I don't even know what's wrong with my style, according to you. I'm playing according to what I learned from this site several years ago, I don't know if the general meta of the site has changed, but if so please enlighten me and tell me how a good townie should play.-
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As I said before I think my predecessor was doing a good job, not sure if he was obvtown in your eyes, but I think he was contributing to solving the game.In post 485, Salsabil Faria wrote:In post 482, NJAC wrote:This is not how it works, if you're voting me and willing to Lim me you should explain your reasons about why you think I'm scum.
What do you expect me to answer? I know I'm not maf.
But okay, I suppose that's your approach to the game, you expect others to do the job for you. So, to give an answer to you, consider this:
I'm trying to solve the game, I'm active and contributing, I'm playing with a town mindset trying to read intentions and generating interactions and reactions. Add to that what my predecessor did and you'll have your answer.Why do you keep thinking that your predecessor was the obvtown lol....
And "I know I'm not maf." doesn't help the rest of us to read you because guess what, we don't know your role!
And I obviously know you don't know my role, that's why I asked Enchant what he expected me to answer. Did you even read my post in context or not?-
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Is this addressed to me? I'm not following you, please explain.In post 488, Enchant wrote:I am casual gamer-
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The thing is any case you make on a player should be at least coherent and if possible convincing.
Your case on me is one of the silliest I've seen, I mean, in what booki is posting like a lawyer a scummy treat? (I don't even think I write like a lawyer, but whatever).
Your case on Greeting is that town!him wouldn't post "if you're green you're on my team", but in many newbie games I played on this site I saw IC players (and probably SE too) posting in similar fashion, and I think that's not alignment indicative.
So what I'm saying is that your cases are weak, and that if you're actually town you should make a better effort.-
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You realize I not only mentioned your "case" on me, but I also mentioned your weak (call it silly too) case on Greeting, right?
So no, I don't call it silly just because is on me, if you had a better case on me, then we would probably have a more constructive debate.
And with regards to a case on you, I'm still figuring out if your jump on my wagon is scum!you being opportunistic and maybe encouraged by your partner, or if it's town!you actually finding me scummy (that's why I insist on your motivations, reasons and arguments), but at the moment I'm leaning the former.-
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The main thing on D1 was the miselimination of Callum/T3 slot. Callum was scummy but also newbie so it was kind of understandable that he wasn't aware of how his actions were perceived and his erratic posts put him in a difficult situation which he apparently didn't handle very well. Then he replaced out and T3 got in, and while I think he was showing some effort to quickly catch up and get involved in the game, he started to make a case against Greeting that was not very convincing. It's also important to mention that it was precisely Greeting the main defender of Callum, so T3 almost digged his own grave by attacking the main defender of his slot. In the end Greeting ended up voting T3, together with several others. As a side note, recently on D2, Greeting was making a case of Salsabil jumping off T3 wagon apparently without a convincing reason.In post 508, BlueBloodedToffee wrote:21 pages.
Oh boy.
Someone give me a quick run down of what has happened?
Also on D1 Bloodshot, who was scum read by several players (specially Greeting) soft claimed, I think like an attempt to get rid of the suspects on him, which ended up being a big mistake because as expected he was NKed.
Of course other things happened on D1, like a lot of replacements, Kitty contributing essentially nothing to the game despite being an SE, your slot being town read, etc., so I highly encourage you to read it all.
Then on D2 things have been very slow, very low activity overall, me trying to generate some interactions and reactions, and trying to read everyone (I replaced in when T3 was already eliminated), Enchant being a bad townie (according to my criterion, and assuming he's town, which I'm still deciding), some pushes on my slot and Greeting, and a lot of resistance to form a wagon on Kitty, even though I made a decent case on him.
Again, my advice is to go and read, but those are some quick things that come to my mind while phone posting.-
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LESS THAN TWO DAYS NOWIn post 453, NJAC wrote: @Town: we need to increase activity. We only have 3 days to make a decision on who to Lim.
Where is everybody?
Some townies should join me on Kitty, BTW.-
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Okay Greeting. In that case you should seriously consider voting Kitty.
Let me restate my case:
1) I really doubt his only scum read during the whole D1 was Calum and only Calum. He didn't even make an effort to try to understand Calum's motivations and what you were saying about him being a newbie. So Kitty simply decided to keep his vote on a likely mislim the whole D1.
2) Kitty is not trying to solve the game and his contribution has been null. He can rely on meta to avoid being eliminated, because apparently many of you have played with him and know that he is anti town, no matter his alignment.
3) He insists that he forgot about the game, and make empty promises to improve activity, but that hasn't happened. What calls my attention the most is that his first post on D2 is again: "I forgot about this game", which looks to me like an attempt to "prove" that he did nothing during the night phase. But why bothering mentioning that when D2 has just begun? Also he said that he was going to catch up, but at that point not much really happened since his last post (347). If he wasn't indeed fully caught up at that moment he could easily just read the posts after his 347, and I think he at least did read the mod post with the revelation of Calum's role, i.e. post 375, and probably also the NK result, post 378. So, I'm saying that Kitty stating that he wasn't fully caught up at that moment is FAKE.
4) I find a lot of resistance to form a wagon on Kitty. If Kitty were town I would expect at least one scum to consider joining that wagon, but that hasn't happened. So I think Kitty is indeed scum and his partner is either explicitly excusing Kitty, maybe talking about not supporting a policy Lim or anything like that, or simply ignoring my attempt to form a wagon on Kitty.-
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Then, if you are actually town, stop that nonsense approach and focus on the whole game instead.In post 527, KittyTacky wrote:I tend to hyperfocus on one scummy person.
How what? I think is pretty obvious that you have no initiative, you barely post when someone calls you, so your contribution is minimal and you don't make a sincere attempt to solve the game.
How?In post 520, NJAC wrote: 2) Kitty is not trying to solve the game and his contribution has been null. He can rely on meta to avoid being eliminated, because apparently many of you have played with him and know that he is anti town, no matter his alignment.
But why can't this come from a town mindset who genuinely thinks you were stating something pointless, unnecessary and hard to believe (that you forgot about the game)?And "which looks to me like an attempt to "prove" that he did nothing during the night phase" stinks like a contrived attempt at shading me.
You at least have to admit that YOU ARE NOT PLAYING LIKE TOWN, you yourself even say that you're scummy, so this is not believable at all. And how exactly does town!you play different from scum!you?It's because I am playing like town me and you're scum trying to miselim me.-
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Well, I see some of you have played with Kitty before, but for me it's the first time I play with all of you, except BBT, I played with him before.In post 540, Greeting wrote: All of this is 100% true, but are you aware ofKittyTacky's meta? He just... plays like that every time. That's why I am so reluctant to place a vote there.
So no, I don't really know about Kitty's meta. I find his play scummy, anti town and his contribution is minimal IN THIS GAME, which is the game I'm focused on.
If Kitty always plays like this regardless of alignment, then he could easily be scum this game.
Has it happened before, in other games that you are aware of, that forming a wagon on town!kitty is very hard to accomplish?-
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Care to explain?In post 579, Salsabil Faria wrote:Wait!NJACisn't a newbie!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Spoiler:
New POE: {NJAC > Wayward/BlueBloodedToffee > Greeting}
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@Salsa. If you're actually town go and read my complete case on Kitty, is in 520, and stop saying that my whole case on Kitty is only about him saying that he forgot about the game.
Also with regards to that statement of Kitty is also important to note when he said that, and the possible intents behind it, which I explain in detail in the mentioned post.
In the many games I played I don't remember seeing anyone posting so many times that they forgot about the game, but I agree this alone is NAI, that's why my case doesn't rely exclusively on that.
Finally, last time I played on this site (like five years ago or so), the general consensus was that a player only claims when they are at E-1 AND SOMEONE DECLARES INTENT TO HAMMER. Otherwise we would be outing roles too easily and facilitating things for the scum.-
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How do I catch the intent? Well, it's how I read that in that moment. I don't really see the point of posting [383] at the very beginning of D2 when only two players had posted. If Kitty was indeed not fully caught up at that moment, he could just go and read and come with something of substance, but he decided to simply say "I forgot and going to catch up", and as I explained several times, it seems like an attempt to prove that he wasn't active during the night phase.
I'm getting tired of repeating that, BTW. So stop misrepping me.
My last sentence was because I thought you were asking me what I was waiting for to claim. But now that I understand what you were asking, I say that I'm more convinced of Kitty being scum than you, but if a Kitty Lim doesn't happen then I'm fine with eliminating you.-
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- Location: Colombia, South America
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NJAC He/His/HimMafia ScumHe/His/Him
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- Posts: 1969
- Joined: June 8, 2012
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- Location: Colombia, South America
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NJAC He/His/HimMafia ScumHe/His/Him
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- Posts: 1969
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- Location: Colombia, South America
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NJAC He/His/HimMafia ScumHe/His/Him
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- Posts: 1969
- Joined: June 8, 2012
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- Location: Colombia, South America
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NJAC He/His/HimMafia ScumHe/His/Him
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- Posts: 1969
- Joined: June 8, 2012
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- Location: Colombia, South America
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NJAC He/His/HimMafia ScumHe/His/Him
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- Posts: 1969
- Joined: June 8, 2012
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- Location: Colombia, South America
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- Posts: 1969
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- Location: Colombia, South America
Why? I think he was defending Kitty there.
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NJAC He/His/HimMafia ScumHe/His/Him
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- Posts: 1969
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- Location: Colombia, South America
That alone doesn't make you scum, but it was such a blatant and reiterated defense, which together with other things you've done in this game make you scum.In post 626, Greeting wrote:I was defending
KittyTacky. Does that make me scum though?-
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- Location: Colombia, South America
@Salsa, other things that make Greeting scum is him casting shade on BBT's slot and my slot to widen his limpool.
Also he being so stubborn to join Kitty's wagon, despite me insisting, and even when he supposedly agreed with what I was saying, was very scummy, even more when you look at it in hindsight.-
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- Posts: 1969
- Joined: June 8, 2012
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- Location: Colombia, South America