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Post #37 (isolation #3) » Tue Nov 08, 2022 7:18 am
Postby Spartan117 »
Kinda hoped for more of a reaction from my test rather than being outted, let it be known if anyone votes for bella now and Hammers that they are scum.
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Post #46 (isolation #4) » Tue Nov 08, 2022 11:05 am
Postby Spartan117 »
In post 42, Bellaphant wrote:Gihardi, Spartan and tapioaco maybe town. #hottakes
Yesh I'm getting that vibe too, think you probably rolled green again too, cab you really roll Red (idk how many) that many times!
But we can see how the reads evolve inc. mine, for now I'll take a step back till I find my next suspect to pounce on.
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Post #49 (isolation #6) » Tue Nov 08, 2022 11:13 am
Postby Spartan117 »
In post 22, Player6 wrote:well, we're in RVS and I feel that while bellaphant's vote on me seemed very sus as when there are multiple mafia sometimes one might vote the person who is throwing suspicion at them to shut them up. So when I voted greeting and the post after bellaphant voted for me seemed like that. Also I really dont get how saying hi to the mod and voting someone would be "really awkward" when that's what everyone else is doin. Seems like justifying something after the fact. Also Greeting your RVS vote on Bellaphant doesn't really mean anything as you could just change it later. I mean that seems like the kind of "evidence" that you throw around that doesn't make any sense when held up to any amount of scrutiny
@Blue
This just feels very anxious like worried about what people think of then so early on, so much so that they need to try and defend themselves so early on, typically scum are more defensive when accused than town but it can also be part of the way the person takes accusations so not always alignment indicative.
In post 37, Spartan117 wrote:Kinda hoped for more of a reaction from my test rather than being outted, let it be known if anyone votes for bella now and Hammers that they are scum.
The worst entrance into the game so far, absolutely anti-town and generally very awkward.
VOTE: Spartan117
How many games have you played in before Greeting?
I see you are an SE so I assume you have been in a few?
Very interesting for you to highlight a few posts of mine referring to my entrance without actually including my actual entrance post, this isn't your first rodeo and it's not mine either.
Please tell me from the perspective of an experienced player such as yourself, what about trying to create conversation and reaction testing is "absolutely anti town"?
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Post #63 (isolation #9) » Tue Nov 08, 2022 11:47 pm
Postby Spartan117 »
I clearly don't care if I'm being sussed and am more than happy to use myself as a tool to drive conversation and get opinions, why is this scummy? Do you think scum want to try and be heavily sussed early on? Would it not make more sense to try and hide under the radar?
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Post #87 (isolation #12) » Thu Nov 10, 2022 10:52 am
Postby Spartan117 »
In post 79, Ghardi wrote:From this post I think Spartan117 felt the same way that I did and realised that I was just having a bit of fun and that we were trying to get things going (correct me if I am wrong Spartan117).
Yeah its all pretty casual early on, ive just been playing pretty chaotically casual until I feel my way into the game and get a good read on everybody.
Yeah I think its difficult I see a lot of what I could see being town v town interactions, its still so early too and the game would benefit a lot if we had a higher activity across the board, don't think we have even had the dull compliment of players post yet.
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Post #95 (isolation #17) » Thu Nov 10, 2022 11:38 am
Postby Spartan117 »
Think it's also far too early to look at scum partners and scum teams, until we get a filp we could make tons of reads on associations between players which could be just clouding up the actual hunting this early, more than likely the scum team would get mentioned amongst a flurry of other pairs that would bury it.
Yeah I think its difficult I see a lot of what I could see being town v town interactions, its still so early too and the game would benefit a lot if we had a higher activity across the board, don't think we have even had the dull compliment of players post yet.
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Post #133 (isolation #19) » Sat Nov 12, 2022 10:37 pm
Postby Spartan117 »
In post 130, Tapiocaphobe wrote:yeah i don't really have anything to add without more content from people
Yeah I just really feel so flat with the complete inactivity in this game it's really uninspiring tbh, don't have much enthusiasm to engage when there is little to nothing to engage with...
In post 127, Looker wrote:VOTE: Spartan117 I think you may also be due for a prod
pedit: nvm
what's the thinking behind this vote
They didn't really explain anything but after my last game where I was scum with Bella and we won, with me playing a really strong town game and getting town locked by a couple other players, I can't blame the sus when I could literally be doing anything and I could be scum.
My play style is often more so situational on the game state and what's going on irl rather than indicative to my role. Like here I'm town (yeah I know, I know) and I thought playing the early chaotic energy to spice things up rather than being super investigative and probing everybody would be a good way to mix things up, rather than just following off from my last game I'd get sussed for just being town. But unlike EE from last game not everybody goes into reading everyone's past games and breaks it down completely. I just wanted a bit more of a lower effort game this time as appose to last game where I put a lot of effort in to seem town, this time I'm less bothered.
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Post #139 (isolation #21) » Sat Nov 12, 2022 11:15 pm
Postby Spartan117 »
In post 134, Looker wrote:Why not vote the least active player to spur activity?
Is this in reference to me because you voted me? Because I have the second highest post count at this point in time? How would that make me the least active or am I misunderstanding?
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Post #172 (isolation #22) » Mon Nov 14, 2022 1:58 am
Postby Spartan117 »
As one of the two people who have wagons on them currently, It would be thought that I would want to try to join Greetings wagon and push them especially for their suspect push on me. But I am worried they could potentially be the typical sussy day 1 town elim that happens so often, I need more time to go through everything thats happened, been very busy irl sorry gang but am planning on putting something together tonight, from a quick glance, BBT looks town so far @Bella I personally don't know if I have it in me to try and sort him after past games so provided nothing jumps out at me, there are other directions I'd rather venture in and investigate in more depth.
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Post #174 (isolation #23) » Mon Nov 14, 2022 3:32 am
Postby Spartan117 »
In post 173, BlueSnakelet wrote:t isn't illogical to assume Greeting might be eliminated without Spartan's involvement
Its
illogical
? To assume greeting might be eliminated without my involvement.
Are you referring to my reaction test at the beginning or me voting them and being on their wagon?
If they reacted in a suspect way to my reaction test and people vote them for that, I am happy to have helped especially as its driven thought privoling conversation but thats down to the voters not me.
And if by chance you are referring to it being illogical for them to be eliminated without me voting them? I don't see how its illogical for 2 of Looker, BBT or Bella to vote them. To put it short I don't really see your point. Especially since I've not really been engaging the votes against me as I currently don't see the point, I'm not going to spend my time trying to make everyone think I'm town, I plan to review formulate my reads and if you flip me see im town and yall can go from there with that info.
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Post #175 (isolation #24) » Mon Nov 14, 2022 4:32 am
Postby Spartan117 »
In post 173, BlueSnakelet wrote:What I think it's happening is: Spartan is scum, and knows Greeting will flip town. By saying "pushing Greeting would be great for me, but idk, this overly scummy player might be town" Spartan is setting up a Day 2 where they can say "See? I was right! Y'all should've listened to me. See how great of a townie I am?"
This would be suspect if I was voting them and on their wagon, but im.not, and I'm not pushing them as town as much as you're pretending I am, all I did was share my concerns and reservations from my previous experience where I've seen players be sus day 1 and they are still town, Bella and BBT here will have seen me hard push wagons day 1 on someone doing what they have previously and I am trying to learn from my mistakes and get better at reading sussy inexperienced town to someone who is scum. I have honestly not looked through everything enough yet I just wanted to share some surface thoughts earlier, believe me or don't its up to you, I'm just trying to share what I'm thinking.
Also pushing greeting wouldn't be great for me as it is a clear and obvious tactic used by both alignments to try and relieve pressure. It would be the typical thing for someone to do that is being pressured, jump on the other wagon and try and get then elimed to save their behind. Like I said I've not fully caught up yet and will do hopefully tonight if not part way tonight part way tomorrow.
If Greeting gets themselves eliminated that's not down to me and me sharing my reservations about that because of past experiences. Its down to their own play and other players scum reading them because of it, I'm starting to wonder if they are scum if this is a gambit by their scum partner to try and push the other wagon to save their scum buddy from the pressure they brought on themselves.
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Post #185 (isolation #25) » Mon Nov 14, 2022 6:00 am
Postby Spartan117 »
In post 178, BlueSnakelet wrote:My point is that you're counting on Greeting being eliminated
Why are you pushing this fake narrative, ive not given off that impression at all? Are you just speculating for effect? I've not had a chance to sit down and go through the last several pages properly and you are saying I'm doing all this stuff against Greeting when I've not been... its alarming at the very least. Why are you chosing to bypass the content that has been produced how about you interact with that, like I intend to rather than trying to push false narratives...
You disagree with them because they didn't answer your question? How petty
Tell me why its correct to actually sus me for my entrance especially with it having been explained, I can understand it being misunderstood, but after its been explained you seem blinded by agenda rather than logic...
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Post #193 (isolation #28) » Mon Nov 14, 2022 11:33 am
Postby Spartan117 »
Alright so its late and I've not got time to read through will have to be tomorrow night when I get in, any off the cuff questions that don't require me to read through posts I'll be around sporadically tomorrow while at work.
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Post #201 (isolation #30) » Tue Nov 15, 2022 6:17 am
Postby Spartan117 »
In post 165, Player6 wrote:I think that greeting being in my first scum read and also has done a lot of shady things like having 0 scum hunting and maybe I'm heading towards a Greeting/Ghardi scum team but I still think that bellaphant needs to be watched still as they aren't fully in the clear VOTE: Greeting
In post 199, Spartan117 wrote:Sometimes suspect behaviour is just how some people play town or scum which makes it extra hard trying to fish out which side they are on :/
who's this in reference to
Bella talking about Greeting, I really don't know what to make of their play, certainly looks sus but I've chased down players before for being sus and they turned out town, I'm much more conscientious this time around being town... :/
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Post #227 (isolation #33) » Tue Nov 15, 2022 11:01 am
Postby Spartan117 »
The fact Greeting isn't a new player is what worries me they don't fall under the bracket of being new as they have been on here a year now, so they should know what looks inherently sus and as such why people are sussing them
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Post #228 (isolation #34) » Tue Nov 15, 2022 12:19 pm
Postby Spartan117 »
Looks like we have 21hrs left I dont see there being enough time for anyone to join me in voting blue so it looks like I am going to have to VOTE: Greeting if we are going to get a flip, we need information going into day 2 and I don't particularly think their content has been very fruitful. It's better than having no elim and letting scum driving who gets flipped. If we had more time I feel things would be different, part of the issue with so many slots changing.
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Post #268 (isolation #36) » Sun Nov 20, 2022 3:47 am
Postby Spartan117 »
I kinda feel like BBT might be town this game guys, I've been very busy irl and didn't notice the game had picked back up, as such I've not read through everything that happened at the end of day 1, and need to familiarise myself with how things went down. For those that don't know it is quite uncommon for me to ever be defending BBT, Bella can attest. I just get a vibe he could be town this game.
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Post #269 (isolation #37) » Sun Nov 20, 2022 3:52 am
Postby Spartan117 »
In post 262, BlueSnakelet wrote:I'm pretty sure Spartan is town. I know I argued otherwise before, but I changed my mind. I was only being way too confident in a tinfoil theory I created.
Why did your opinion on me change? I actually thought my game content was very lacking at the end/later stages of day 1.
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Post #316 (isolation #39) » Mon Nov 21, 2022 8:51 pm
Postby Spartan117 »
In post 315, BlueBloodedToffee wrote:Elmo already has two votes Spartan and they have contributed nothing as of yet.
Can't find time to post content but can find time to explain why they're not posting content.
I agree, I just wanted to give them a chance to post as they said today they would contribute, and if I vote them it puts them in hammer range, but I am willing to move there if needed.
In post 315, BlueBloodedToffee wrote:Elmo already has two votes Spartan and they have contributed nothing as of yet.
Can't find time to post content but can find time to explain why they're not posting content.
Takes 30 seconds to make a post about what's going on irl then an hour reading this whole game.
I get that but you first joined Saturday and it's now Tuesday and you've yet to post anything content driving so we are all only able to read your slot bases off your predecessor, I get you may have been busy although it sounds like something you knew was coming so I'm not quite sure why you subbed into this game if you knew you was going to be unable to provide content unless there is some merit to what BBT said about struggling to scum hunt when you have the game solve. If you are genuinely town you can surely see how this messes things up for the rest of us when all we have to go on is a scatter of posts that aren't driving any content.
On this note I'll self hammer. To get game state. Also 335
If i didn't make a post or talk about them then I consider them town
This is so anti town of you, if you are actually town you are dooming us by giving up there was 1 vote on you and bbt just put a 2nd on you, why on earth are you talking about self hammering???
Its true, and for someone who subbed into the game you'd think there would be more purpose. I find it so frustraiting because watch him flip town yet he's not done anything towney to help in the progression of the game just roll over and declare intent to self hammer...
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Post #386 (isolation #50) » Fri Nov 25, 2022 5:47 am
Postby Spartan117 »
In post 385, BlueSnakelet wrote:7 and a half hours left. I doubt that we're goint to get anything useful out of Elmo now.
VOTE: Elmo, this is E-1.
Its just so frustraiting as he is rolling over which is great if he's scum albeit sucky for his partner, but if they are town it gives us nothing to go off as far as reads go, for who they think is scum etc.
At this point I will declare intent to hammer, so Elmo if you can please declare your role and we can go from there.
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Post #388 (isolation #51) » Fri Nov 25, 2022 8:04 am
Postby Spartan117 »
In post 387, Elmo TeH AzN wrote:Ill be honest this slot felt like it was just going to be a dead spot. You want a readlist when I said I wasn't going to. I don't see the point of it. I know this whole lynch is bad and to be fair I'm not going to let this day end without some information going around. After the game is over we can talk about things and what was done wrong but like I said earlier I hate game solves on day 2 when there wasn't and isn't a lot of information to go off of.
The slot you subbed into was a clean slate and we would have treated it as such if you had been active and provided meaningful content.
while you may not see the point in a read list, it's not for you it's for us, after we see your flip it helps us see who you was reading what given your alignment, resistance to provide one just makes you look like you are trying to hide potential post flip associations to your scum partner.
You say your not gonna let this day end without some info going around but you've been providing empty promises of content for days.
One person saying their opinion on who the scum is isn't a game solve, BBT took their vote off you and put it on Bella so you had ample breathing space to investigate and scum hunt. Given the number of pages there is a lot of information for you to investigate.
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Post #390 (isolation #52) » Fri Nov 25, 2022 8:14 am
Postby Spartan117 »
In post 387, Elmo TeH AzN wrote:As far as claming it really does no good as its not going to do anything and a person in my state would claim VT. Its funny how this works out and proving the point. This lynch feels like nothing more then just eliminate someone whos really not doing anything because we can't take them into a mylo. Which is where this game is heading.
Of course claiming is good, it's important for you to do when someone details intent to hammer, if you are town you would do it, but given your resistance again it very much makes you look like scum. A town PR would claim in this position to give themselves a chance for the town to eliminate scum instead, even if the scum team kills them in the night they are preventing a guarenteed mis-elim in the day vote, we don't want to flip you and see you are a town PR think I would want some time away for a while if that was the case.
Claiming PR again doesn't mean your town but it actually gives us a decision to make if you are genuine town PR or scum trying to save their skin and trying to out a counter claim. At the moment it doesn't really feel like a decision..
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Post #391 (isolation #53) » Fri Nov 25, 2022 8:18 am
Postby Spartan117 »
In post 387, Elmo TeH AzN wrote:feels like nothing more then just eliminate someone whos really not doing anything
That is exactly what this is, you have not attempted to scum hunt and only contributed when prompted to, multiple people have pleaded with you to put effort into this with no result.
Its alright I can hammer him if you need to sleep, he has made albeit another promise for content saying he's not gonna let the day end without some I fo going around, so if there is any chance of that I would like to see it.
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Post #402 (isolation #57) » Fri Nov 25, 2022 11:40 am
Postby Spartan117 »
In post 387, Elmo TeH AzN wrote:I'm not going to let this day end without some information going around
Where is it Elmo? Where is this information you promised? Looking back at it now, it seems like you was indicating you would let us talk more before you self hammered... how kind of you, shame you never gave us
anything
yourself.. you better not be town. Seen a couple of semi cryptic messages making me think you're scum so lets hope..