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furtiveglance · Post Post #660 (isolation #0) » Fri Feb 24, 2023 5:27 am

Hello

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furtiveglance · Post Post #663 (isolation #1) » Fri Feb 24, 2023 5:30 am

In post 662, Black wrote: Now go read and tell me if I'm way off on Empath or not

I'm Empath with a 2

I haven't read anything but will do

furtiveglance · Post Post #665 (isolation #2) » Fri Feb 24, 2023 6:05 am

What if I do the classic 10 page sample catch up

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Page 10 reads: It's Dionysus and patchwork.

furtiveglance · Post Post #666 (isolation #3) » Fri Feb 24, 2023 6:08 am

In post 625, Thestatusquo wrote:
VoteCount 1.7

Empathice [ 3 ]
Black, dionysus kawaiikame

Dionysus [ 2 ]
skitter30, empathice

Herta (SE) [ 1 ]
Hadriaaan

patchwork [ 1 ]
BluebloodedToffee

Not Voting [ 2 ]

Herta, Patchwork,

With 9 alive it takes 5 votes to be executed.

Countdown to deadline:(expired on 2023-02-28 21:26:00)

No tips or tricks this time. Your mod is exhausted.

Hadriaaan has requested replacement and herta has been prodded.

VOTE: Dionysus

furtiveglance · Post Post #668 (isolation #4) » Fri Feb 24, 2023 6:13 am

In post 667, Black wrote: I will be looking forward to your analysis on the next 17 pages and I'm curious how they will change your current opinions

I don't think they will really, but I'll let you know

furtiveglance · Post Post #670 (isolation #5) » Fri Feb 24, 2023 6:14 am

I'm a confident player

furtiveglance · Post Post #673 (isolation #6) » Fri Feb 24, 2023 6:17 am

In post 672, Black wrote: Regardless how confident you are...anything can happen in those 17 pages. Like someone trying to force the masons to claim idk

Someone tried to out us? You didn't spill the beans did you?

furtiveglance · Post Post #674 (isolation #7) » Fri Feb 24, 2023 6:18 am

In post 671, skitter30 wrote: @furitive why dio

Just seems awkward and scummy

furtiveglance · Post Post #677 (isolation #8) » Fri Feb 24, 2023 6:25 am

In post 676, skitter30 wrote:
In post 674, furtiveglance wrote:
In post 671, skitter30 wrote: @furitive why dio
Just seems awkward and scummy
What do u think wrt the last game?

Was towny last game. An easy townread

furtiveglance · Post Post #683 (isolation #9) » Fri Feb 24, 2023 6:57 am

In post 682, BlueBloodedToffee wrote: Hi Furtive,

Did you replace into a scum slot my friend?

Yes I did, yeah.

Yeah

I was gonna try and pretend to be town but since you asked so directly I had to come clean. It's like with a plainclothes officer.

Anyway, catch up part 2 coming soon!

furtiveglance · Post Post #693 (isolation #10) » Fri Feb 24, 2023 7:33 am

Catch up part 2: p11-20

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I'm stuck on Dionysus and patchwork. In more detail though:

reads

Black, Kawaii, skitter

Empathice

BBT

Hadriaan

Dionysus

Patchwork

furtiveglance · Post Post #697 (isolation #11) » Fri Feb 24, 2023 7:39 am

In post 695, Black wrote: Furtive how did you do the cool reads subsection? I like that

Area tag:

Code: Select all

[area=Reads][/area]

Colors is pretty easy:

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[color=#FF0000][/color]

Make it bigger:

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[size=150][/size]

furtiveglance · Post Post #705 (isolation #12) » Fri Feb 24, 2023 7:48 am

In post 666, furtiveglance wrote:
In post 625, Thestatusquo wrote:
VoteCount 1.7

Empathice [ 3 ]
Black, dionysus kawaiikame

Dionysus [ 2 ]
skitter30, empathice

Herta (SE) [ 1 ]
Hadriaaan

patchwork [ 1 ]
BluebloodedToffee

Not Voting [ 2 ]

Herta, Patchwork,

With 9 alive it takes 5 votes to be executed.

Countdown to deadline:(expired on 2023-02-28 21:26:00)

No tips or tricks this time. Your mod is exhausted.

Hadriaaan has requested replacement and herta has been prodded.

VOTE: Dionysus

If I'm right, then Black and Kawaii need to change their votes. BBT is convinced Dionysus is town, and patchwork won't hammer a partner.

I hope Hadriaan's replacement sees things the way I do.

furtiveglance · Post Post #709 (isolation #13) » Fri Feb 24, 2023 7:51 am

Fair. I will do shortly^

furtiveglance · Post Post #711 (isolation #14) » Fri Feb 24, 2023 7:54 am

Black, read on patchwork?

furtiveglance · Post Post #715 (isolation #15) » Fri Feb 24, 2023 7:58 am

For me, my main scumreading yardstick/criterion is pushing other players, which patchwork has done none of. All of their content has been reactive.

furtiveglance · Post Post #718 (isolation #16) » Fri Feb 24, 2023 8:02 am

In post 717, Dionysus wrote:
In post 715, furtiveglance wrote: For me, my main scumreading yardstick/criterion is pushing other players, which patchwork has done none of. All of their content has been reactive.
Why aren't you voting patches then

You had more votes when I came in

The real question is why aren't you, after you listed them as a scumread repeatedly?

furtiveglance · Post Post #720 (isolation #17) » Fri Feb 24, 2023 8:02 am

Here, put them on E-2

VOTE: patchwork

furtiveglance · Post Post #721 (isolation #18) » Fri Feb 24, 2023 8:03 am

In post 719, Black wrote:
In post 715, furtiveglance wrote: For me, my main scumreading yardstick/criterion is pushing other players, which patchwork has done none of. All of their content has been reactive.
I'll have to ISO patch to really confirm that because I can't remember all that well. Using this logic...Empath has only pushed one newbie player over an RVS mistake so how is that town behavior at all?

Empathice has pushed Dionysus hard.

furtiveglance · Post Post #723 (isolation #19) » Fri Feb 24, 2023 8:05 am

Oh dear Dio...

furtiveglance · Post Post #725 (isolation #20) » Fri Feb 24, 2023 8:06 am

In post 724, Dionysus wrote:
In post 723, furtiveglance wrote: Oh dear Dio...
What

What about patchwork's recent contributions was towny?

furtiveglance · Post Post #730 (isolation #21) » Fri Feb 24, 2023 8:10 am

In post 727, Black wrote:
In post 721, furtiveglance wrote:
In post 719, Black wrote:
In post 715, furtiveglance wrote: For me, my main scumreading yardstick/criterion is pushing other players, which patchwork has done none of. All of their content has been reactive.
I'll have to ISO patch to really confirm that because I can't remember all that well. Using this logic...Empath has only pushed one newbie player over an RVS mistake so how is that town behavior at all?
Empathice has pushed Dionysus hard.
But that's literally all he's done this game? Like, extremely minimal interactions with any of the other players. And the push on Dio is entirely based on a mistake that could come from newtown. That's the case and Emp admitted that's all he has on Dio. He even said there weren't any weird vibes or anything...it was just the RVS mistake

I know I'm pretty new and not very good at the game but this can't be town behavior. You TRing Emp so hard concerns me

Pushing someone hard can be town behaviour, and Empathice has given other reads to boot.

furtiveglance · Post Post #736 (isolation #22) » Fri Feb 24, 2023 8:13 am

In post 728, Empathice wrote:
In post 725, furtiveglance wrote:
In post 724, Dionysus wrote:
In post 723, furtiveglance wrote: Oh dear Dio...
What
What about patchwork's recent contributions was towny?
I Was thinking that them confusing me with someone else was towny, but really almost everybody seems confused.

It wasn't towny, it was them trying to re-use the old 'you TRed me and it was weird' leverage trick that they pulled earlier, in 88.

furtiveglance · Post Post #738 (isolation #23) » Fri Feb 24, 2023 8:15 am

In post 733, Black wrote: I also am not a big fan of Furtive just jumping into live posting without reading the full game. I don't know what benefit this has when there are literally pages of posts you can solidify your reads with if you just read them

If I read the entire game before posting, it would take a while, and my thoughts would probably be a bit scrambled. I like doing smaller catch ups.

I'll go and read the rest of the game now

furtiveglance · Post Post #739 (isolation #24) » Fri Feb 24, 2023 8:16 am

In post 734, Dionysus wrote:
In post 725, furtiveglance wrote:
In post 724, Dionysus wrote:
In post 723, furtiveglance wrote: Oh dear Dio...
What
What about patchwork's recent contributions was towny?
My problem with them was the same as yours. Lots of reactive stuff, a lot of fluff, no active hunting. I had to push hard for even a simple list of reads.

But since they have finally started to engage and actively give their thoughts on the game.

I'm not saying they're town lol. They're just not my first sr anymore.

This isn't an adequate explanation btw, I'll explain why later.

furtiveglance · Post Post #742 (isolation #25) » Fri Feb 24, 2023 8:19 am

You don't understand the way I work Black. Each new game, especially a Newbie, is like unwrapping a present. I want to dive straight in.

furtiveglance · Post Post #744 (isolation #26) » Fri Feb 24, 2023 8:20 am

And I don't believe you need to read the whole game to solve it

furtiveglance · Post Post #783 (isolation #27) » Fri Feb 24, 2023 9:02 am

Catch up pt 3: Chasin' the Masons (p21-30)

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reads

Black, Empathice, skitter

Kawaii

BBT

Dionysus, Hadriaan

patchwork

furtiveglance · Post Post #785 (isolation #28) » Fri Feb 24, 2023 9:04 am

BBT should probably be higher, put him next to Kawaii^

furtiveglance · Post Post #788 (isolation #29) » Fri Feb 24, 2023 9:07 am

Black, I'm telling you Empathice is town.

furtiveglance · Post Post #789 (isolation #30) » Fri Feb 24, 2023 9:07 am

In post 786, Dionysus wrote: Furtive 734 is literally an explanation for why I don't want to vote patchwork just now. I think their latter engagement is more townie than their earlier stuff. Why is that weird idgi

You 'don't townread them', you said.

furtiveglance · Post Post #792 (isolation #31) » Fri Feb 24, 2023 9:11 am

In post 790, Dionysus wrote:
In post 789, furtiveglance wrote:
In post 786, Dionysus wrote: Furtive 734 is literally an explanation for why I don't want to vote patchwork just now. I think their latter engagement is more townie than their earlier stuff. Why is that weird idgi
You 'don't townread them', you said.
does that mean I have to vote for them

Serious question

Because "I don't townread" them can mean a few different things between "null" and "scumread"

I know you know this

Right, but your explanation for your progression on them was so weak that you had to back out and go 'I don't townread them'. That's the point I'm making

furtiveglance · Post Post #793 (isolation #32) » Fri Feb 24, 2023 9:11 am

In post 791, Black wrote:
In post 788, furtiveglance wrote: Black, I'm telling you Empathice is town.
Do you think Dio is a better option today?

Yes, but patchwork is the best.

furtiveglance · Post Post #795 (isolation #33) » Fri Feb 24, 2023 9:14 am

You've done at least a 90 on them, for absolutely no good reason.

furtiveglance · Post Post #801 (isolation #34) » Fri Feb 24, 2023 9:30 am

In post 797, patchwork wrote: HOLY SHIT FURTIVEGLANCE!!! HI!!

Hi patchwork

furtiveglance · Post Post #811 (isolation #35) » Fri Feb 24, 2023 9:35 am

Beetlejuicing is appearing when your name is mentioned. It's part of playing reactively

furtiveglance · Post Post #816 (isolation #36) » Fri Feb 24, 2023 9:38 am

In post 812, patchwork wrote: out of curiosity furtive do you think me nd dio are paired and bussing or separate scumreads

I try not to work based on associatives so much on D1. Reading players individually has proved more reliable.

furtiveglance · Post Post #820 (isolation #37) » Fri Feb 24, 2023 9:40 am

In post 817, patchwork wrote:
In post 693, furtiveglance wrote: However I think patchwork's content is lacking in the main in terms of having and pushing scumreads.
fair lol
i'm garbage at scumhunting because i mostly rely on townhunting and then finding the Less Towny people

Have you found any town?

Who are the less towny people?

furtiveglance · Post Post #833 (isolation #38) » Fri Feb 24, 2023 9:50 am

In post 824, patchwork wrote:
In post 693, furtiveglance wrote: Yeah the patchwork/Empathice interaction is weird.
which one?

You thinking they TRed you and calling them scummy for it

furtiveglance · Post Post #836 (isolation #39) » Fri Feb 24, 2023 9:51 am

In post 831, patchwork wrote:
In post 715, furtiveglance wrote: For me, my main scumreading yardstick/criterion is pushing other players, which patchwork has done none of. All of their content has been reactive.
what can i say being reactionary (not in the political sense) can be a little fun
though i'm shit at scumhunting so i don't want to push wrong, which is mainly the reason i'm not Doing Things

I don't believe you.

furtiveglance · Post Post #837 (isolation #40) » Fri Feb 24, 2023 9:51 am

bewolkt HAI

furtiveglance · Post Post #842 (isolation #41) » Fri Feb 24, 2023 9:53 am

Dionysus has played here as well - I linked to Newbie 2110 in my latest catch up post

furtiveglance · Post Post #850 (isolation #42) » Fri Feb 24, 2023 9:56 am

In post 843, patchwork wrote: hi bewolkt!

In post 838, Empathice wrote: You're confusing Dion with me. I Said I've played ~10 games. Dion has definitely played on other sites, probably as much as me or more.
my bad

In post 836, furtiveglance wrote:
In post 831, patchwork wrote:
In post 715, furtiveglance wrote: For me, my main scumreading yardstick/criterion is pushing other players, which patchwork has done none of. All of their content has been reactive.
what can i say being reactionary (not in the political sense) can be a little fun
though i'm shit at scumhunting so i don't want to push wrong, which is mainly the reason i'm not Doing Things
I don't believe you.
ok then don't lol
like what do you want me to do, push something that i'm still not confident about ????

I think we've collectively produced enough content for you to have a confident read or at least a hunch, and the fact that you don't is suspicious.

furtiveglance · Post Post #855 (isolation #43) » Fri Feb 24, 2023 9:58 am

In post 852, patchwork wrote:
In post 726, Empathice wrote: Now it would be you/Dion
why? nothing about furtive is especially scummy/towny
and it doesn't seem like they're bussing dio either

That was @Black from Empathice.

Also, you have no read on me either way so far patchwork?

furtiveglance · Post Post #859 (isolation #44) » Fri Feb 24, 2023 9:59 am

In post 856, skitter30 wrote: Heya

skitter would you be willing to vote patchwork today or are they too wholesome

furtiveglance · Post Post #864 (isolation #45) » Fri Feb 24, 2023 10:00 am

In post 861, patchwork wrote:
In post 855, furtiveglance wrote:
In post 852, patchwork wrote:
In post 726, Empathice wrote: Now it would be you/Dion
why? nothing about furtive is especially scummy/towny
and it doesn't seem like they're bussing dio either
That was @Black from Empathice.

Also, you have no read on me either way so far patchwork?
yeah idk how to read you
it feels towny but i'm not sure yet because i can't vibe with you we're like. Not on the same wavelength i rely on gutreads and then analysis on those players

Gutreads which don't kick in after 30 pages?

furtiveglance · Post Post #891 (isolation #46) » Fri Feb 24, 2023 10:11 am

In post 889, patchwork wrote: no idea if everyone voting me genuinely thinks im scummy or if there's just maf trying to get an easy elimination but like... i don't really care it'll be funny if you guys hammer me

How funny

furtiveglance · Post Post #900 (isolation #47) » Fri Feb 24, 2023 10:13 am

PSA: Do not make judgements based on voting patterns rather than players' ISOs.

furtiveglance · Post Post #920 (isolation #48) » Fri Feb 24, 2023 10:23 am

You guys are using the wrong metrics to find scum

furtiveglance · Post Post #924 (isolation #49) » Fri Feb 24, 2023 10:24 am

In post 922, patchwork wrote:
In post 920, furtiveglance wrote: You guys are using the wrong metrics to find scum
then almighty SE, what are the right metrics

Town are solving, scum are surviving. That's the core of the game.

furtiveglance · Post Post #929 (isolation #50) » Fri Feb 24, 2023 10:27 am

In post 925, Black wrote:
In post 920, furtiveglance wrote: You guys are using the wrong metrics to find scum
Please tell me what is town about Emp saying a town player wouldn't be careless with his solves, and then Emp admitting he was careless with his solves but that he doesn't think it's scummy and he wouldn't think it's scummy if he was a bystander seeing himself be careless with his solves? Please

What you've pointed out is a contradiction. Town can contradict themselves. Town can be hypocritical.

furtiveglance · Post Post #930 (isolation #51) » Fri Feb 24, 2023 10:29 am

In post 928, Black wrote:
In post 924, furtiveglance wrote:
In post 922, patchwork wrote:
In post 920, furtiveglance wrote: You guys are using the wrong metrics to find scum
then almighty SE, what are the right metrics
Town are solving, scum are surviving. That's the core of the game.
EMPATHICE IS NOT SOLVING! AND HE'S TRYING TO SURVIVE BY PIVOTING TO THE WEIRD PATCH WAGON

If patchwork flips town, I agree that it looks bad. But I have so much confidence in patchwork flipping red that I'm not considering Empathice as scum right now.

furtiveglance · Post Post #934 (isolation #52) » Fri Feb 24, 2023 10:31 am

I'm pretty sure patchwork is scumclaiming. There's no way they flip town

furtiveglance · Post Post #936 (isolation #53) » Fri Feb 24, 2023 10:32 am

In post 935, Black wrote: Kawaii we are literally on the same page rn

We're all on page 38

furtiveglance · Post Post #939 (isolation #54) » Fri Feb 24, 2023 10:33 am

I'm gonna be straight up: I have zero interest in flipping anyone other than patchwork today.

furtiveglance · Post Post #943 (isolation #55) » Fri Feb 24, 2023 10:34 am

In post 940, KawaiiKame wrote:
In post 934, furtiveglance wrote: I'm pretty sure patchwork is scumclaiming. There's no way they flip town
Inb4 they flip town

There's no way.

furtiveglance · Post Post #948 (isolation #56) » Fri Feb 24, 2023 10:37 am

In post 947, Black wrote: Well furtive will officially be no help with the solve. He's tunneled on patch and refuses to see other possibilities lol. Shame. Maybe the newbie replacement can be more help

Lol. You'll thank me later

furtiveglance · Post Post #955 (isolation #57) » Fri Feb 24, 2023 10:40 am

In post 951, patchwork wrote: furtive have you ever considered that scum can fake-solve

Yes

furtiveglance · Post Post #962 (isolation #58) » Fri Feb 24, 2023 10:42 am

In post 959, Black wrote:
In post 954, patchwork wrote:
In post 943, furtiveglance wrote:
In post 940, KawaiiKame wrote:
In post 934, furtiveglance wrote: I'm pretty sure patchwork is scumclaiming. There's no way they flip town
Inb4 they flip town
There's no way.
what if i hammered myself right now
That's against the rules

It's not, it's against the guidelines though. If you're town, don't, but it is a valuable tool for scum to deny town information

furtiveglance · Post Post #973 (isolation #59) » Fri Feb 24, 2023 10:46 am

patchwork is flailing here

furtiveglance · Post Post #977 (isolation #60) » Fri Feb 24, 2023 10:47 am

hmph. You all know what I think, and I'll be annoyed if patchwork isn't hammered today.

furtiveglance · Post Post #985 (isolation #61) » Fri Feb 24, 2023 10:49 am

In post 979, Black wrote:
In post 977, furtiveglance wrote: hmph. You all know what I think, and I'll be annoyed if patchwork isn't hammered today.
What's the rush?

This day phase I mean

furtiveglance · Post Post #991 (isolation #62) » Fri Feb 24, 2023 10:51 am

I should probably be more reflective but when I think I'm onto something I can get quite tunnelled about it

furtiveglance · Post Post #997 (isolation #63) » Fri Feb 24, 2023 10:55 am

In post 994, KawaiiKame wrote:
In post 991, furtiveglance wrote: I should probably be more reflective but when I think I'm onto something I can get quite tunnelled about it
Please be reflective

I mean, since I've replaced in I've spent quite a lot of today thinking about the game, so I have reflected quite a bit

furtiveglance · Post Post #999 (isolation #64) » Fri Feb 24, 2023 10:56 am

In post 998, Empathice wrote: Actually Kawaii/Dion is still very possible.

VOTE: Dionysus

furtiveglance · Fri Feb 24, 2023 10:58 am

In post 996, skitter30 wrote:
In post 981, skitter30 wrote:
In post 973, furtiveglance wrote: patchwork is flailing here
I think this is town tbh
@furitive

Right; I wasn't sure how to respond/change your mind. Why would it be 'funny' for town!patchwork to be voted out? Why would they not claim at E-1?

furtiveglance · Fri Feb 24, 2023 11:05 am

In post 1004, skitter30 wrote: Why are u so convinced they're scum again?

No scumhunting. No scumreads. No pushing. No posting without being prompted/asked something.

furtiveglance · Fri Feb 24, 2023 12:48 pm

Can someone else comment on Dionysus/patchwork interactions please? I'm fairly sure that's the team. They have each other as scumleans consistently, yet seem weirdly resistant to voting each other

when it matters

.

furtiveglance · Fri Feb 24, 2023 12:48 pm

In post 1043, furtiveglance wrote: Can someone else comment on Dionysus/patchwork interactions please? I'm fairly sure that's the team. They have each other as scumleans consistently, yet seem weirdly resistant to voting each other
when it matters
.

Then there's their actual interactions, which always seem to have a jokey tone even if they're seemingly quite antagonistic.

furtiveglance · Post Post #1054 (isolation #69) » Fri Feb 24, 2023 1:09 pm

In post 1053, BlueBloodedToffee wrote: Holy shit, a 43 page D1 in a Newbie.

I don't want to read the last 15 pages or so...someone give me a quick run down?

patchwork went to E-1 but then Empathice unvoted. Dionysus and patchwork both at E-2 I think.

furtiveglance · Post Post #1060 (isolation #70) » Fri Feb 24, 2023 1:24 pm

Yeah^^

Let's do patchwork, someone E-1 again so they can claim

furtiveglance · Post Post #1064 (isolation #71) » Fri Feb 24, 2023 1:29 pm

In post 1063, Black wrote:
In post 1060, furtiveglance wrote: Yeah^^

Let's do patchwork, someone E-1 again so they can claim
You literally just got here...

I'm making things happen. I've been playing the game. I'm always eager to flip Mafia

furtiveglance · Post Post #1066 (isolation #72) » Fri Feb 24, 2023 1:43 pm

Yeah I get that. But if we unvote patchwork now, by the time other people catch up they might not want to eliminate patchwork. Which is something I don't want to risk

furtiveglance · Post Post #1069 (isolation #73) » Fri Feb 24, 2023 1:52 pm

In post 1068, Black wrote:
In post 1066, furtiveglance wrote: Yeah I get that. But if we unvote patchwork now, by the time other people catch up they might not want to eliminate patchwork. Which is something I don't want to risk
How confident are you in your patchwork read on a scale of 1-10?

9

furtiveglance · Post Post #1092 (isolation #74) » Fri Feb 24, 2023 3:57 pm

In post 1091, KawaiiKame wrote:
In post 1090, Empathice wrote: As a legacy I will say that all mafia are probably in Dion/Patch/Kawaii
I hope you right w/ Dion/Patch

This is also my solve

furtiveglance · Post Post #1096 (isolation #75) » Fri Feb 24, 2023 4:25 pm

In post 1095, patchwork wrote: vanilla townies

and that's a completely hypothetical question because someone in my other game mentioned it in passing i am absolutely not outing my role

furtiveglance · Post Post #1098 (isolation #76) » Fri Feb 24, 2023 4:34 pm

In post 1097, patchwork wrote:
In post 1096, furtiveglance wrote:
In post 1095, patchwork wrote: vanilla townies

and that's a completely hypothetical question because someone in my other game mentioned it in passing i am absolutely not outing my role

answer the question and don't throw a size 400 at me

If I thought a claimed VT was town, I wouldn't want to eliminate them, no. Although that also doesn't apply here, so it's similarly hypothetical.

furtiveglance · Post Post #1101 (isolation #77) » Fri Feb 24, 2023 4:46 pm

In post 1100, KawaiiKame wrote:
In post 1092, furtiveglance wrote:
In post 1091, KawaiiKame wrote:
In post 1090, Empathice wrote: As a legacy I will say that all mafia are probably in Dion/Patch/Kawaii
I hope you right w/ Dion/Patch
This is also my solve
Why this solve?

Have you read

any

of my posts?

Click the ISO button in the top middle of this post. Then scroll down to my posts which have 'catch up' at the top. Click the spoiler buttons on those posts to find out why I have this solve.

furtiveglance · Post Post #1105 (isolation #78) » Fri Feb 24, 2023 4:52 pm

Yeah my solve is Dionysus/patchwork, I don't scumread you particularly

furtiveglance · Post Post #1108 (isolation #79) » Fri Feb 24, 2023 4:56 pm

In post 1107, KawaiiKame wrote:
In post 1105, furtiveglance wrote: Yeah my solve is Dionysus/patchwork, I don't scumread you particularly
I'm a back up option in case patch/dio flip town? Got you

No, if one of patch/dio was town I would look at bewolkt first.

furtiveglance · Post Post #1110 (isolation #80) » Fri Feb 24, 2023 5:01 pm

Yeah I sort of got null vibes from Hadrian's very sparse posting so bewolkt is a complete unknown to me at the moment.

furtiveglance · Post Post #1114 (isolation #81) » Fri Feb 24, 2023 5:12 pm

In post 1111, patchwork wrote:
In post 1098, furtiveglance wrote:
In post 1097, patchwork wrote:
In post 1096, furtiveglance wrote:
In post 1095, patchwork wrote: vanilla townies

and that's a completely hypothetical question because someone in my other game mentioned it in passing i am absolutely not outing my role

answer the question and don't throw a size 400 at me
If I thought a claimed VT was town, I wouldn't want to eliminate them, no. Although that also doesn't apply here, so it's similarly hypothetical.
no like.... if there was a claimed vt you scumread would you vote them...... not if you thought they were town..

I would, yes. Only thing that makes me unvote now is a PR claim.

furtiveglance · Post Post #1116 (isolation #82) » Fri Feb 24, 2023 5:13 pm

Interesting. This is all extremely interesting

furtiveglance · Post Post #1117 (isolation #83) » Fri Feb 24, 2023 5:23 pm

In post 1113, patchwork wrote: i also don't wanna go out all blaze of glory or whatever, i got into this cause i was more reactive and more defensive and if no one believed me then, would they now? probably not. scumhunting isn't worth it either because literally everyone has me as a null/sl/sr and i doubt anyone would agree with my reads or analysis

Antispew

furtiveglance · Post Post #1243 (isolation #84) » Sat Feb 25, 2023 9:00 am

Can we talk seriously about today's elimination?

My preferred candidate is patchwork, my second is Dionysus.

furtiveglance · Sat Feb 25, 2023 12:28 pm

In post 1300, Dionysus wrote: OK I am gonna potentially he a bit of a hypocrite, but as patches' other game has just ended we can now acknowledge it. In 2112 patches was town and their ISO is here: viewtopic.php?t=90446&user_select%5B%5D=36976

They are clearly trying to solve the game from the beginning in a way that they just haven't in this game yet and it is page 52. Like this is not a question of playstyle at all. Their style is very similar in both games. But in one they are hunting scum and in this one they're not.

It is now that I admit my read was partly based on meta, and I fully agree with this.

furtiveglance · Post Post #1316 (isolation #86) » Sat Feb 25, 2023 2:43 pm

(pls vote patchwork)

furtiveglance · Post Post #1318 (isolation #87) » Sat Feb 25, 2023 2:50 pm

I will be flabbergasted if patchwork flips town

furtiveglance · Post Post #1335 (isolation #88) » Sat Feb 25, 2023 3:25 pm

In post 1325, patchwork wrote:
In post 1324, KawaiiKame wrote:
In post 1323, patchwork wrote: we have three days and i have no motivation for anything
three days is plenty of time to analyze in-depth, what will motivate you?
idk i'm dying at uni and can't get out of bed in the mornings, it's not like you can do much lol

This was me last year, hope you're doing ok

--

I think you're mafia though!!!

furtiveglance · Post Post #1336 (isolation #89) » Sat Feb 25, 2023 3:25 pm

In post 1327, KawaiiKame wrote:
In post 1323, patchwork wrote: we have three days and i have no motivation for anything, what makes you think it would be physically be possible for me to do that
like i might be able to complete the players who have posted more sparsely but what about the slots that are actually controversial
If you not having fun you can /out and someone else can /in this slot

I think this is technically against the rules

furtiveglance · Post Post #1346 (isolation #90) » Sat Feb 25, 2023 3:46 pm

In post 1344, KawaiiKame wrote:
In post 1336, furtiveglance wrote:
In post 1327, KawaiiKame wrote:
In post 1323, patchwork wrote: we have three days and i have no motivation for anything, what makes you think it would be physically be possible for me to do that
like i might be able to complete the players who have posted more sparsely but what about the slots that are actually controversial
If you not having fun you can /out and someone else can /in this slot
I think this is technically against the rules
Hopefully I get to stay in the game

Yeah it's probably chill

furtiveglance · Post Post #1352 (isolation #91) » Sat Feb 25, 2023 4:06 pm

I actually liked that case on BBT - as in I found it convincing and towny. Probably better than all of patchwork's previous posts combined.

HMMMMMMMMMMMMMmm

Time to do the big think

furtiveglance · Post Post #1353 (isolation #92) » Sat Feb 25, 2023 4:08 pm

The thing with BBT is that I really mindmelded with his page 1 and 2 reads. But there's a chance I was subliminally influenced into agreeing

Since then he hasn't done much, yeah.

furtiveglance · Post Post #1354 (isolation #93) » Sat Feb 25, 2023 4:09 pm

VOTE: Dionysus

furtiveglance · Post Post #1355 (isolation #94) » Sat Feb 25, 2023 4:10 pm

I'd love a votecount.

furtiveglance · Post Post #1358 (isolation #95) » Sat Feb 25, 2023 4:13 pm

In post 1356, patchwork wrote:
In post 1353, furtiveglance wrote: The thing with BBT is that I really mindmelded with his page 1 and 2 reads. But there's a chance I was subliminally influenced into agreeing
same

Really? Did you mention this before, that you mindmelded with BBT's (very) early reads?

furtiveglance · Post Post #1359 (isolation #96) » Sat Feb 25, 2023 4:13 pm

In post 1357, patchwork wrote: also would right now be "the right time to vote"? because if so i'm gonna drop my vote on VOTE: Empath and we can swordfight about it
prolly going to inevitably have my vote on dio though, the vibes are not gtting better

I disapprove of this vote strongly

furtiveglance · Post Post #1368 (isolation #97) » Sat Feb 25, 2023 4:32 pm

In post 1361, patchwork wrote:
In post 1359, furtiveglance wrote:
In post 1357, patchwork wrote: also would right now be "the right time to vote"? because if so i'm gonna drop my vote on VOTE: Empath and we can swordfight about it
prolly going to inevitably have my vote on dio though, the vibes are not gtting better
I disapprove of this vote strongly
ok now explain why

Empathice obvtown

furtiveglance · Post Post #1373 (isolation #98) » Sat Feb 25, 2023 4:40 pm

Unofficial Votecount

Empathice [ 3 ]

kawaiikame, Black, patchwork

patchwork [ 2 ]

BlueBloodedToffee, Dionysus

Dionysus [ 2 ]

skitter30, furtiveglance

BlueBloodedToffee [ 1 ]

bewolkt

Not Voting [ 1 ]

Empathice

With 9 alive it takes 5 votes to be executed.

Countdown to deadline: (expired on 2023-02-28 21:26:00)

furtiveglance · Post Post #1375 (isolation #99) » Sat Feb 25, 2023 4:41 pm

In post 1371, Empathice wrote: Furtive can you give reasons for finding Dion scum?

Wasn't the minimal case you provided largely linked to Patch also being scum?

That was my mindset at the time and it probably showed but no, it wasn't a conditional read. Dionysus is individually scummy and playing differently to past towngames (e.g. 2110). I think I've said this before.

furtiveglance · Sat Feb 25, 2023 4:49 pm

In post 1376, Empathice wrote:
In post 1371, Empathice wrote: Furtive can you give reasons for finding Dion scum?

Wasn't the minimal case you provided largely linked to Patch also being scum?
Like you actually pointed out how Dion was winking and finding things funny as if you were side-eyeing it and found #14 scummy. I Also don't like how you say things "aren't +town" instead of "NAI" multiple times in reference to Dion but you don't bother to mention NAI things for anyone else?

If I used the phrase 'not +town' or similar I probably wanted to convey that it was +scum

furtiveglance · Sat Feb 25, 2023 4:50 pm

In post 1378, Empathice wrote:
In post 1377, KawaiiKame wrote:
In post 1354, furtiveglance wrote: VOTE: Dionysus
I'm honor bound to unvote Emp/vote Dio now, lemme wait on the official vote b4 voting
UNVOTE: Empathice
DO NOT VOTE DION.

They aren't Masons.

furtiveglance · Sat Feb 25, 2023 4:52 pm

In post 1379, KawaiiKame wrote:
In post 1378, Empathice wrote:
In post 1377, KawaiiKame wrote:
In post 1354, furtiveglance wrote: VOTE: Dionysus
I'm honor bound to unvote Emp/vote Dio now, lemme wait on the official vote b4 voting
UNVOTE: Empathice
DO NOT VOTE DION.
0kay, fruitive didn't even agree to my deal

I didn't know we had one.

furtiveglance · Sat Feb 25, 2023 5:08 pm

In post 1387, Empathice wrote:
In post 663, furtiveglance wrote:
In post 662, Black wrote: Now go read and tell me if I'm way off on Empath or not
I'm Empath with a 2

I haven't read anything but will do
Calling yourself Empath2 before catching up and following my reads looks really weird also.

This is a Blood on the Clocktower joke - Empath is a role that gets a number - how many of their neighbours are evil. 2 is very rare and something of a meme.

furtiveglance · Sat Feb 25, 2023 5:16 pm

In post 1389, skitter30 wrote:
In post 1077, Black wrote:
In post 1067, Thestatusquo wrote:
VoteCount 1.9

patchwork [ 4 ]
BluebloodedToffee, furtiveglance, dionysus, empathice

If patchwork flips town I feel there there is at least one wolf here
I feel like furitive might be scum here

flashback to Newbie 2110

skitter30: furtive is so scum am I right
Gimli: Hell yeah skitter. I also saw furtive soft PR, classic scumtell. Let me E-1 him for you
furtive: What. skitter is town, Gimli is scum.

unflashback

Moral of the story: trust my reads skitter

furtiveglance · Sun Feb 26, 2023 12:53 am

In post 1404, Dionysus wrote: Also I invite furtive to re-read my ISO in the recently completed mini-normal I just played with him where I am having fun with it if he thinks that makes me scummy here viewtopic.php?t=90432&user_select%5B%5D=36930

Weird tho that furtive has ignored this and only referenced my completed newbie games tho.

Still, patch is my main push.

We aren't allowed to reference ongoing games so I hadn't mentioned it.

furtiveglance · Sun Feb 26, 2023 1:01 am

I guess

furtiveglance · Sun Feb 26, 2023 1:22 am

In post 1408, Dionysus wrote: It's patch furtive, go with your gut.

My gut has you and patch together remember?
But sure

VOTE: patchwork

furtiveglance · Sun Feb 26, 2023 1:23 am

I want everyone's thought's on bewolkt's entrance.

furtiveglance · Sun Feb 26, 2023 1:23 am

Thoughts^

furtiveglance · Sun Feb 26, 2023 1:35 am

BBT anything to say?

furtiveglance · Sun Feb 26, 2023 3:26 am

BBT why are you like this

furtiveglance · Sun Feb 26, 2023 3:31 am

In post 1427, BlueBloodedToffee wrote:
In post 1424, furtiveglance wrote: BBT why are you like this
Rephrase?

Deliberately so laconic

furtiveglance · Sun Feb 26, 2023 3:36 am

In post 1431, BlueBloodedToffee wrote: Furtive, I think you know as well as I do that prolonging this Day is at the very, very best antitown but it's actually just +scum.

Useful information is being lost in pages upon pages of complete drivel or restating of things that were happening literally 30 pages ago. There is a term for it I think but I can't remember what it is but basically all of the noise and rehashing of same arguments is back for town and good for scum because it causes apathy within town of having to read the same things over and over.

Like, let's get the day done and move on. ISO'ing people again this game is already going to be the most tedious thing ever.

I'm voting on the biggest wagon.

furtiveglance · Sun Feb 26, 2023 3:38 am

In post 1433, Empathice wrote: And I'm sorry for getting so incredibly paranoid at you Furtive.

Don't count your chickens, I haven't flipped yet...

furtiveglance · Sun Feb 26, 2023 4:20 am

Black, why is BBT not a good vote option?

furtiveglance · Sun Feb 26, 2023 4:51 am

In post 1445, Black wrote:
In post 1444, furtiveglance wrote: Black, why is BBT not a good vote option?
I don't think limming lurky players is the best course of action when there are more scummy players around. The lurk slots always have the possibility of contributing more later. Do you think he's a good option?

No, he isn't as scummy as my preferred options

furtiveglance · Sun Feb 26, 2023 4:52 am

patchwork, claim your role.

furtiveglance · Sun Feb 26, 2023 5:09 am

In post 1468, KawaiiKame wrote: I'm willing to hammer patch at this point, delaying the game isn't good to game health

do it

furtiveglance · Sun Feb 26, 2023 5:11 am

In post 1480, patchwork wrote: rip
bye guys, sorry for sucking this game

Dw, I'd like to play with you again

furtiveglance · Sun Feb 26, 2023 5:13 am

Spoiler:

furtiveglance · Sun Feb 26, 2023 5:20 am

HAMMER

furtiveglance · Sun Feb 26, 2023 5:30 am

Kawaii, please.

furtiveglance · Sun Feb 26, 2023 9:31 am

Can someone hammer before I lose my mind

furtiveglance · Sun Feb 26, 2023 9:45 am

In post 1560, KawaiiKame wrote:
In post 1559, furtiveglance wrote: Can someone hammer before I lose my mind
Hammer is happening Monday, why do you want to hammer so badly?

Because I need to know.

furtiveglance · Sun Feb 26, 2023 9:53 am

I ATE this game.

snaps fingers

furtiveglance · Sun Feb 26, 2023 10:11 am

I will now dip until the hammer falls

furtiveglance · Mon Feb 27, 2023 4:57 am

In post 1577, Black wrote: Ok I'm at work! I have more free time at work than I do during the weekends XD

I do have a little IRL work to do but after that I'm going to read the last 15 pages or so that I missed and then solidify my Empath and patch reads

And then after that you'll hammer

furtiveglance · Mon Feb 27, 2023 5:41 am

In post 1579, KawaiiKame wrote:
In post 1578, furtiveglance wrote: And then after that you'll hammer
No one is bound to hammer

Black doesn't need to hammer, because you're about to

furtiveglance · Mon Feb 27, 2023 6:18 am

In post 1581, Black wrote: I feel like y'all are just waiting for me to provide some magical solve but what y'all don't realize is I suck at this game lol

just relax and sheep

furtiveglance · Mon Feb 27, 2023 7:33 am

In post 1602, KawaiiKame wrote:
In post 1596, Black wrote: So I will wait it out and see if anyone wants to switch from patch to Empath. If no one does I will drop the patch hammer so we don't reach some awful deadline stalemate
I'm willing to push Empath with you, instinctively I feel it's dio/empath/furtive

patchwork's flip exonerates me

furtiveglance · Mon Feb 27, 2023 7:34 am

Black. E-1 patchwork

furtiveglance · Mon Feb 27, 2023 7:35 am

In post 1606, KawaiiKame wrote:
In post 1603, furtiveglance wrote:
In post 1602, KawaiiKame wrote:
In post 1596, Black wrote: So I will wait it out and see if anyone wants to switch from patch to Empath. If no one does I will drop the patch hammer so we don't reach some awful deadline stalemate
I'm willing to push Empath with you, instinctively I feel it's dio/empath/furtive
patchwork's flip exonerates me
It may condemn you
Even if patch is mafia that does not make you inno, potential bus exists

not really tho

furtiveglance · Mon Feb 27, 2023 7:36 am

In post 1608, KawaiiKame wrote:
In post 1604, Black wrote:
In post 1602, KawaiiKame wrote:
In post 1596, Black wrote: So I will wait it out and see if anyone wants to switch from patch to Empath. If no one does I will drop the patch hammer so we don't reach some awful deadline stalemate
I'm willing to push Empath with you, instinctively I feel it's dio/empath/furtive
It's me, you, bewolkt, and patch. We would need someone else like skitter or someone from the patch wagon to join. We can't have two players at e-1 too close to the deadline because we risk not limming anyone and that would be the worst case scenario
I'm good with skitter being the deciding vote, I've had the same thinking with the 4 v 4, you good with skitter deciding?

skitter could only 'decide' by hammering Empathice in this scenario.

furtiveglance · Mon Feb 27, 2023 7:37 am

In post 1609, Empathice wrote:
In post 1603, furtiveglance wrote:
In post 1602, KawaiiKame wrote:
In post 1596, Black wrote: So I will wait it out and see if anyone wants to switch from patch to Empath. If no one does I will drop the patch hammer so we don't reach some awful deadline stalemate
I'm willing to push Empath with you, instinctively I feel it's dio/empath/furtive
patchwork's flip exonerates me
So now you're back to being confident? What happened?

patchwork's reaction to being nearly hammered was +scum. Also gamestate.

furtiveglance · Mon Feb 27, 2023 7:38 am

In post 1611, KawaiiKame wrote:
In post 1607, furtiveglance wrote:
In post 1606, KawaiiKame wrote:
In post 1603, furtiveglance wrote:
In post 1602, KawaiiKame wrote:
In post 1596, Black wrote: So I will wait it out and see if anyone wants to switch from patch to Empath. If no one does I will drop the patch hammer so we don't reach some awful deadline stalemate
I'm willing to push Empath with you, instinctively I feel it's dio/empath/furtive
patchwork's flip exonerates me
It may condemn you
Even if patch is mafia that does not make you inno, potential bus exists
not really tho
Yes really, why would you say patch's flip exonerates you when it doesn't?

Because coming into the game and tunnelling my partner would be extremely toxic and playing against my win con

furtiveglance · Mon Feb 27, 2023 7:38 am

In post 1615, Empathice wrote:
In post 1610, furtiveglance wrote:
In post 1608, KawaiiKame wrote:
In post 1604, Black wrote:
In post 1602, KawaiiKame wrote:
In post 1596, Black wrote: So I will wait it out and see if anyone wants to switch from patch to Empath. If no one does I will drop the patch hammer so we don't reach some awful deadline stalemate
I'm willing to push Empath with you, instinctively I feel it's dio/empath/furtive
It's me, you, bewolkt, and patch. We would need someone else like skitter or someone from the patch wagon to join. We can't have two players at e-1 too close to the deadline because we risk not limming anyone and that would be the worst case scenario
I'm good with skitter being the deciding vote, I've had the same thinking with the 4 v 4, you good with skitter deciding?
skitter could only 'decide' by hammering Empathice in this scenario.
I Don't think they would hammer me. Why would they be restricted in such a way?

skitter is already voting patchwork, so she wouldn't be able to decide to hammer them.

furtiveglance · Mon Feb 27, 2023 7:43 am

Black, tell me you were RTing Kawaii just now

furtiveglance · Mon Feb 27, 2023 7:45 am

In post 1628, KawaiiKame wrote:
In post 1603, furtiveglance wrote:
In post 1602, KawaiiKame wrote:
In post 1596, Black wrote: So I will wait it out and see if anyone wants to switch from patch to Empath. If no one does I will drop the patch hammer so we don't reach some awful deadline stalemate
I'm willing to push Empath with you, instinctively I feel it's dio/empath/furtive
patchwork's flip exonerates me
furitive's flips exonerates you

My flip doesn't happen today

furtiveglance · Mon Feb 27, 2023 7:49 am

In post 1633, Black wrote:
In post 1627, furtiveglance wrote: Black, tell me you were RTing Kawaii just now
what is RTing?

reaction test

furtiveglance · Mon Feb 27, 2023 7:50 am

In post 1636, Black wrote: I wish I could say I was but I'm not good enough to do that stuff. I was joking about wagoning you though. I don't think that's a good idea at all

Then E-1 patchwork

furtiveglance · Mon Feb 27, 2023 7:53 am

In post 1640, Black wrote:
In post 1637, furtiveglance wrote:
In post 1636, Black wrote: I wish I could say I was but I'm not good enough to do that stuff. I was joking about wagoning you though. I don't think that's a good idea at all
Then E-1 patchwork
You are asking me to lim patchwork right now because Empath will come along with the hammer. I don't want to do this right now

I know what I'm asking.

furtiveglance · Mon Feb 27, 2023 7:54 am

In post 1642, Black wrote: I would much rather someone from the patch wagon come over and help me flip Empath today

Never

furtiveglance · Mon Feb 27, 2023 8:09 am

Don't pivot.

furtiveglance · Mon Feb 27, 2023 8:17 am

In post 1654, Black wrote:
In post 1653, furtiveglance wrote: Don't pivot.
???

Was this meant for your scum PT?

It was addressed to you.

furtiveglance · Mon Feb 27, 2023 8:32 am

Don't pivot to Empathice from patchwork. I mean the group in general

furtiveglance · Mon Feb 27, 2023 9:38 am

Saying you sucked is +scum because survival is more of a scum goal than a town one

furtiveglance · Mon Feb 27, 2023 10:59 am

I'm extremely angry. Absolute clowntown

furtiveglance · Mon Feb 27, 2023 11:00 am

I literally spoonfeed you guys a Mafia and because I don't hold your hands the whole way it doesn't go through...embarrassing

furtiveglance · Wed Mar 01, 2023 11:42 am

Dio, Kawaii pairs with patch after yesterday. Use your vote smartly.

I'm happy to end this day whenever people come round. Yesterday EOD was garbage and awful.

VOTE: patchwork

furtiveglance · Wed Mar 01, 2023 11:48 am

In post 1758, Dionysus wrote: Unvote patch. I now think they are town.

Well fuhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

furtiveglance · Wed Mar 01, 2023 11:48 am

If they are, we're not in a good position here.

furtiveglance · Wed Mar 01, 2023 11:52 am

Crapsicles. I

can

vote Kawaii, but I'm still pretty sure patchwork is scum

furtiveglance · Wed Mar 01, 2023 11:54 am

It sounds like you aren't sure still on patchwork...my vote stays. Call me a car. (Because I'm parked).

furtiveglance · Wed Mar 01, 2023 12:00 pm

Yeah they pocketed Black all day yesterday and shifted the vote off patchwork onto obvtown Empathice. Not a good look

I see patchwork and Kawaii right now

furtiveglance · Wed Mar 01, 2023 12:02 pm

E-1 yayyyyyyy

furtiveglance · Wed Mar 01, 2023 12:03 pm

(have we been here before?)

furtiveglance · Wed Mar 01, 2023 12:06 pm

Yeah I'm hungry for a hammer already

furtiveglance · Wed Mar 01, 2023 12:18 pm

In post 1777, patchwork wrote:
In post 1761, furtiveglance wrote: If they are, we're not in a good position here.
well yeah guess we're not in a good position, sucks to suck
VOTE: kawaii now i'm going to go to do some work, don't quickhammer while im gone

oop

furtiveglance · Wed Mar 01, 2023 12:18 pm

DOC ON DIONYSUS!!!

random setup spec guess lol

furtiveglance · Fri Mar 03, 2023 12:37 pm

Dionysus pretty clearly had a guilty on Kawaii, and I should have listened.

Kawaii should be the elimination today, but let's talk first, without voting.

furtiveglance · Fri Mar 03, 2023 12:38 pm

I think it's straight up Kawaii and BBT btw

furtiveglance · Fri Mar 03, 2023 12:59 pm

It's pretty clear that Dionysus didn't have an inno on patchwork btw, because he said they

could

still be bad.

furtiveglance · Fri Mar 03, 2023 1:10 pm

In post 1788, BlueBloodedToffee wrote: I mean, I'm happy to vote Kawaii but like...can we not do me after if we're right?

I mean that depends on how people play obviously, it's just my current theory.

furtiveglance · Fri Mar 03, 2023 1:43 pm

Mafia has a Framer yeah?

furtiveglance · Fri Mar 03, 2023 1:54 pm

It was me I'm the Framer

furtiveglance · Sat Mar 04, 2023 2:05 pm

Thanks skitter

furtiveglance · Sat Mar 04, 2023 2:06 pm

Shall we generate some content

furtiveglance · Sat Mar 04, 2023 2:07 pm

In post 1800, skitter30 wrote: There are no framers in newbie games

I thought Kawaii was outing/giving up

furtiveglance · Sat Mar 04, 2023 2:09 pm

I don't care. Compare the amount of reads they gave out in Newbie 2112 to this one, early on.

furtiveglance · Sat Mar 04, 2023 2:09 pm

It was a completely different playstyle to the one I recognised so I thought patch must have been scum.

furtiveglance · Sat Mar 04, 2023 2:44 pm

BBT always fits any scumteam by way of deliberately never efforting in a game to keep his meta very bland.

I just finished a game in which Black was scum and it threw me for a loop

There's options really. I don't think Black is the partner though because Kawaii seemed to be pocketing Black, but I'll have to look again at that.

furtiveglance · Sat Mar 04, 2023 2:48 pm

It made me really D;

furtiveglance · Sat Mar 04, 2023 11:35 pm

Grr

Might vote Kawaii but I don't want to lose the game somehow

furtiveglance · Sat Mar 04, 2023 11:48 pm

I know that skitter is town.

furtiveglance · Sat Mar 04, 2023 11:49 pm

If Kawaii is somehow town it's Black and BBT

furtiveglance · Sat Mar 04, 2023 11:51 pm

In post 1748, Dionysus wrote: The one I want to pursue first today is definitely kawaii.

Yh this looks like a guilty to me

furtiveglance · Sun Mar 05, 2023 12:12 am

BBT, what was Dionysus' check if not a red on Kawaii

furtiveglance · Sun Mar 05, 2023 12:15 am

Cops prefer not to claim outright usually

furtiveglance · Sun Mar 05, 2023 12:15 am

Yes I read Dionysus D2

furtiveglance · Sun Mar 05, 2023 12:21 am

If he had an inno on patch he would have been more confident about it and stopped the vote.

furtiveglance · Sun Mar 05, 2023 12:22 am

Red on Kawaii made him reconsider

furtiveglance · Sun Mar 05, 2023 12:25 am

Yh I think they do

furtiveglance · Sun Mar 05, 2023 12:28 am

Red check

furtiveglance · Sun Mar 05, 2023 12:32 am

I don't really think Kawaii is scummy if there's no cop

furtiveglance · Sun Mar 05, 2023 12:32 am

This game is too hard

furtiveglance · Sun Mar 05, 2023 12:37 am

If Dionysus green checked patch and then said 'it's mafia, you can never be certain' about them I'll be really annoyed.

furtiveglance · Sun Mar 05, 2023 12:53 am

I did think it could be an inno, which is why I asked how sure Dionysus was, and he said 'not certain'.

furtiveglance · Sun Mar 05, 2023 12:58 am

Yeah, he seemed more sure on Kawaii than on patchwork.

I need to look at Black again

furtiveglance · Sun Mar 05, 2023 1:15 am

Red on Kawaii makes the most sense.

furtiveglance · Sun Mar 05, 2023 9:45 am

I want to get things moving but I don't want to lose the game like a fool. I'm pretty confident that the team isn't exactly skitter/Black so I'll invite Kawaii to put a vote down on BBT, if he's so confident.

furtiveglance · Sun Mar 05, 2023 10:03 am

For you not to like that idea, are you saying you think the scumteam is Me/Black?

furtiveglance · Sun Mar 05, 2023 10:11 am

Alright that's it, I'm done with this

I'm pretty sure that Dionysus had a red on Kawaii and I'm not sure why people are arguing for a green on patch when Dionysus said 'we can never be certain' or something

VOTE: KawaiiKame

furtiveglance · Sun Mar 05, 2023 10:21 am

The Cop died screaming your name my friend, it's not a great look

furtiveglance · Sun Mar 05, 2023 10:25 am

I'm an impulsive player

furtiveglance · Sun Mar 05, 2023 12:41 pm

Well ffs
I keep throwing games

furtiveglance · Sun Mar 05, 2023 12:42 pm

It really did look like Dionysus' result was on Kawaii though

furtiveglance · Sun Mar 05, 2023 12:42 pm

I need to take a break from starting new games

furtiveglance · Sun Mar 05, 2023 12:44 pm

Sorry skitter

furtiveglance · Sun Mar 05, 2023 3:26 pm

In post 1766, Dionysus wrote:
In post 1765, furtiveglance wrote: It sounds like you aren't sure still on patchwork...my vote stays. Call me a car. (Because I'm parked).
I am quite confident. But this is mafia until the flip happens we can never be certain

Dionysus, this does not say green check. Your job is to give the town clear information, not live forever. Be more explicit next time.

That said, I obviously played badly this game.