Newbie 2121 | Native Plants - End!

[skitter30]

I mean skit I tried to reach out to you multiple times in d1
You kept saying nah you’re scum bc of Spartan
Which really isn’t fair for me because it’s basically saying there’s nothing I can do to change that.
You weren’t the only one with that mindset so was overseer

Sadly I’d like to catch up with computers but I have been off and on vacation at my full time job and then with black and patch replacing out with delta I kinda just lost all motivation for this game.

Part of me wanted to just roll over and die but I got upset with the game running up three people in 1 day for claims. Which felt scum motivated as hell for me.
I’m not entirely sure why others aren’t seeing that but whatever.

I was p sure delta was flipping scum so the whole entire NK there is throwing me off, but whatever. Apart of me is ok with that because he was toxic as fuck, but then all of a sudden omi is coming in with just as toxic behavior mainly only towards me. At first I was the only one who had an issue with it, but then when it continued even after my comment that’s when Eira and skit made a comment.
Skit you posted after the toxic comment and your comment was p annoying imo

Only reason why I’m not rolling over and dying rn is with my town flip and mafia gets a kill again tonight we are in EOL.

so i guess my thoughts are:
- i don't really feel like u reached out to me day1?
- if you're upset with running up three people in one day for claims (which i don't think happened either), why did you soft a PR, causing yet another person to claim?
- also, if this is scum-motivated, who was the scum doing the motivating?
- when i said 'oof', i meant it in a 'that's not a nice thing to say to people' sort of way; if it came across as otherwise, i apologize. that's why i said a little more explicitly later on that i didnt like those sort of posts when omi kept doing it

[skitter30]

Clock is down to two hours, by the way. Vote will go live on Mala.

And the reason I'm doing this is to set up pressure to see if anyone was willing to vote knowing that I would come in with another vote. I find the results of said pressure to be very interesting.

well, that would be the hammer vote, so why would someone vote in the interim?
what were the interesting results

[skitter30]

interesting in what way / what do you think it

~means

/ what have you gained from this / et cetera

Well, for one, it seems that neither you nor Skitter want to eliminate Malakittens right now. For perfectly valid reasons, I'm sure; given that I have reservations as well, but the failure to eliminate Mala yesterday was contingent on voting for Mala today, unless you have a better target in mind?

If so, I am all ears.

i mean i don't want to end the day *now* but i made it p clear tht i want to end the day on mala

[skitter30]

ok that's e1
i don't actually oppose to just ending the day but i also wouldn't mind more pressure on chicago + eira tbh

[skitter30]

ok that's e1
i don't actually oppose to just ending the day but i also wouldn't mind more pressure on chicago + eira tbh

You're sure the partner is eira or chicago? I assume your or omigron get killed tonight so any last words from you two will be helpful.

Why is inutile town?

I'm p sure all of omi/you/inutile are town. If i had to sort it: omi > inutile >> you

I just ... don't see inutile being scum here. I feel like she's thinking abt the game from a varietu of angles, trying to solve, keeps going over bits of the game to attempt.to get to clarity. Don't see her being scum.

You're *probably* town but not on the same level as her

[skitter30]

ok that's e1
i don't actually oppose to just ending the day but i also wouldn't mind more pressure on chicago + eira tbh

I dont trust how you just accept this coming from chigaco. I dont trust how you continually seesaw on my slot. I dont trust how you accept overseera actions, comments and drives.

Skitter come one please be town?

Mala post was pretty heartfelt while ChIGACo remains scum. Chigaco putting mala at e-1 is scum play!


We do nothave to end the day here. Put me down now: if mala flips town here which frankly is becoming likely, under no circumstance trust skitter or overseer. Both are utra desperate to see mala and jot chigaco dead. Both are shutting down mala. Both are happy with chigacos weak reasons for voting mala here?


And skitter keeps positin me in that scum pile....... nah something feels off here too easyand complacent.

I asked before but you didnt answer: ehy is mala town?
She's by far my biggest sr, so if you want me to vote elsewhere you're going to have to convince me she's town

[skitter30]

Ok but u also arent doing anything useful to try to convince me that you or mala are rown2

[skitter30]

*town

[skitter30]

Ok u still never explained the 'mala is green' bit

[skitter30]

Not gonna. If mala flips vt mala flips vt. Why waste breath.

Ok from my pov she's scum, and the optimal flip today. If you think otherwise i think the onus is on you to convince me, and it's a little frustrating to hear you complain abt the flip but make no effort to prevent it

[skitter30]

ok that's e1
i don't actually oppose to just ending the day but i also wouldn't mind more pressure on chicago + eira tbh

You're sure the partner is eira or chicago? I assume your or omigron get killed tonight so any last words from you two will be helpful.

Why is inutile town?

I'm p sure all of omi/you/inutile are town. If i had to sort it: omi > inutile >> you

I just ... don't see inutile being scum here. I feel like she's thinking abt the game from a varietu of angles, trying to solve, keeps going over bits of the game to attempt.to get to clarity. Don't see her being scum.

You're *probably* town but not on the same level as her

But saying all variety of angles doesn't mean shit if no commitment. Oh mala didn't die night 1 so either she lied or scum was cautious of protection. SO WHAT????

What has she done as town? For example I can see you as town because you caught mala in the first place and saved delta when it could've been easy elim for you. That is town, and just off memory I'm sure theres many more.

Inutile literally just saved mala and pushed a player to elim last minute that apparently no one actually scum read in the first place. (besides eira). All actions of inutile benefit scum.

I think the back and forth pondering abt the game and trying to solve it is townie and unlikely to come from scum. I feel like she's scumhunting, and i see her train of thought.

Inutile, can you give me a tldr for why you didnt want to flip mala yesterday plz?

[skitter30]

Then overseer/skitter.

It can't be skitter because we have no hope or time to even think about that. Most players have been way too scummy day 1. If it's skitter it's GG day 1 already.

Indeed

[skitter30]

You use the time to save scum though.

She's pushing mala today tho?

[skitter30]

I think we massclaim tomorrow
Unless there's a pr reason not to i like omi's approach (although i would switch chicago + eira)

[skitter30]

I actually don't hate the idea of massclaim today tbh, but don't think it's necessary

[skitter30]

I think if we don't massclaim today we absolutely should tomorrow, esp. before anyone votes

[skitter30]

Yeah i think inutile is just town tbh

[skitter30]

We can wait for massclaim tomorrow I think, esp. if we flip mala today

[skitter30]

I think omi, overseer, and inutile are all beyond obviously town at this point

I just want to flip thru the other three, and i think we should be able to

I think it's *ok* to massclaim today but tbh prob better tomorrow (esp if mala is red)

I think we're kinda going around in circles at this point, i'm ok just flipping mala now

[skitter30]

Hey i'm prob voting chicago here.

[skitter30]

I can give massclaim to you now ; ) But I'm claiming dead last. Wanna see if chigaco can steal my role. Know you're a vt tho.

Yeah if ur claiming pr and an inno on overseer that's just game i think

[skitter30]

Hmmm ok. I thought omigron was neighbour and they visited you n1. Because you thought that the setup was in block 2. I have to recalculate my vt read on u maybe.

I'm confused, do u not have an inno on overseer?

[skitter30]

i think the claim order tomorrow if malakittens is a scums and i am nightkilled should probably be something like

chicagotypewriter
eiralox
skitter
omigron
overseer

Excellent claim order I'm all for following it.

Chicago -> me/overseer -> you -> omi

[skitter30]

Who's the other pr then ...

There should be someone with a hard inno or guilty rn

[skitter30]

We should just massclaim at this point

[skitter30]

Fine, let's have chicago -> you -> overseer -> me -> omi

[skitter30]

If ur town plz no lying abt role ty

[skitter30]

We should either have 3 clears or a hard guilty

[skitter30]

I'm p sure i know the setup

[skitter30]

Chicago can u claim plz

[skitter30]

From my pov i'm not voting or really moving on until we massclaim, and chicago/eira need to be the first two people.

I would prefer chicago -> eira but honestly if it moves things along the other way is fine too imo

@omi plz unvote as eira is e1 now

[skitter30]

>.>
Really

[skitter30]

Yeah.
So we have a tracker/jk somewhwre, and they should have an inno (jk or tracker) or guilty (tracker)

It's not me, eira is saying it's not him, and it's not you it seems so ig that leaves chicago, but i thought he was scum

Can't tell if he's claiming a guilty or not tho

So long as the other pr didnt target omi we should be in auto

[skitter30]

Omi is friendly neighbor, i thought you picked up on that

[skitter30]

@overseer i was strongly townreading u yesterday for being so blunt abt picking up on the FN and saying we were in B, scum isnt that overt

[skitter30]

But yeah that seems like it's gam

[skitter30]

Ig omi sent it to chicago last night? Kinda confused what happened to that

[skitter30]

Happy that u picked up on it ans not scum >.>

[skitter30]

I'm debating if it's worth it to hear from chicago but honestly on the offchance he's town we just flip you tomorrow and that's game too

Pedit oh yeah i forgot inutile, he prob sent it to her

[skitter30]

Yeah omi fn'd me n1

[skitter30]

Well i wouldnt have believed it b/c i had the message from omi, i think he needed to try to counter the tracker/jk claim except he didnt know wjat box we were in

[skitter30]

Should i just end it?

[skitter30]

VOTE: chicago
Now we just wait for ffery

In the very offhand event that this is a town pr flip overseer tom but this should be it

[skitter30]

I'm not cleared for getting the message. If it werent for the potentical counterclaim really we should be flipping me tomorrow if the game was ongoing

I think you needed to kill a pr last night
Did you realize omi was a PR?

[skitter30]

Anyway gg all, this was fun

I think town played this p well. What did mafia in imo was suboptimal nk choices. Delta n1 was ???? and if you had a pr read last night should have been them

[skitter30]

I got some weird partner vibes off of spartan
Should have just flipped mala day1 but eh this worked too.

Was fun playing with everyone, hope everyone sticks around!

[skitter30]

I think town played this p well. What did mafia in imo was suboptimal nk choices. Delta n1 was ???? and if you had a pr read last night should have been them

I think that was the point? Honestly, don't remember what my exact strategy was but I grossly underestimated how little you all care about nk choices and I was hoping to have the discussion sidetracked by it.

Well nk choices are important but like delta was so weird and out of left field that there wasnt really anything conclusive to draw from it so i just ignored it

I personally would have left delta alive - it would have made the following days a lot more fractitious

And like i said last night would have killed a pr so that you didnt get boxed in like you did

[skitter30]

Just blame skitter tbh. She started out the mala wagon and stopped the delta wagon.

Indeed

[skitter30]

Ty ffery!

[skitter30]

Figured it would be better to keep some ambiguity