Newbie 2129 - Postgame

[Cook]

THE END OF AN ERA, TOWNIES AND HUMANEATINGMONKEY. IT'S THE END OF AN ERA.

[Cook]

hi, nice to meet you, i'm cook, oh my goodness what the hell is wrong with this game

[Cook]

also oh god TWO PR'S DEAD IN ELO

i briefly skimmed over day 3 up to this point, gonna dive back in. do folks have specific parts of the game they want me to look at? if not i'm gonna skim and then isodive every living player i think

[Cook]

i'm a vt. not that it matters at this stage but yeah i'm a vanilla townie

[Cook]

let's solve this game

[Cook]

analyze day 1 under the lens that magicalsteve is going to die. who is pushing for steve to die?

kawaiimikustan doesn't feel *bad* per-se, but they also don't exactly have anything going for them. it's possible his slot is scum?
iamvh really shouldn't have played as he did, you hint VERY clearly that you're town pr by aggressively softing cop and then saying "loljk but LUCKILY i wasn't cop!"
TheHoldSteady feels ... something. by page 7 that more solidified. THS and SD1 are not a pair.
SmileyDude1/HPE is genuine, which makes SD1 town by association
brassherald's got that "why EVER would you be voting me?" feeling of a Town PR, also just feels good contentwise
CCGeek reminds me of me, if I cared more about a game in Day 1
Civil Scum... 257 weird push?
THS could MAYBE be scum? it'd have to be a wide shot at this point in the game (page 11).

szmarzleek has *opinions* on the game, and it skews my read on bulge. tbh i actually think leek is scum here?
Civil Scum feels really weird to me even tho he dead now
SevenEyes feels clear... hmmph. Leek and Seven have weird theater maybe on 14? they might be on the same team
SmileyDude on page 16 with the limpool is okay content
THS is clearly being an SE. i need to reread THS again and see if they're trying to slide SE cred and be a leader that way instead of towncred
Bulge is a townleader obviously.
SD1 town for post 420 i think

okay, end of day one.

1.FINAL
Votecount 1.FINAL

MagicalSteve (ELIMINATED):

iamveryhappy, The Bulge,

SmileyDude1, TheHoldSteady,

Civil Scum[/green]
SmileyDude1 (1):

CCGeek

Civil Scum (1): SzmarzLeek

Not Voting (2): SevenEyes,

MagicalSteve

i have filled out the slots that have *since* flipped green.

according to votecount analysis, THS is a likely scum, no wagon was a cleared townie

i don't know if i see bussing action as a possibility in a newbie? i know the newbies came from PS mafia mostly so that doesn't really help us in terms of "would an idiot do this? and if the answer is no, then scum votes came from town"

so

as of the end of day one

i read THS as possible scum

[Cook]

agh. color. fixed the tags.

analyze day 1 under the lens that magicalsteve is going to die. who is pushing for steve to die?

kawaiimikustan doesn't feel *bad* per-se, but they also don't exactly have anything going for them. it's possible his slot is scum?
iamvh really shouldn't have played as he did, you hint VERY clearly that you're town pr by aggressively softing cop and then saying "loljk but LUCKILY i wasn't cop!"
TheHoldSteady feels ... something. by page 7 that more solidified. THS and SD1 are not a pair.
SmileyDude1/HPE is genuine, which makes SD1 town by association
brassherald's got that "why EVER would you be voting me?" feeling of a Town PR, also just feels good contentwise
CCGeek reminds me of me, if I cared more about a game in Day 1
Civil Scum... 257 weird push?
THS could MAYBE be scum? it'd have to be a wide shot at this point in the game (page 11).

szmarzleek has *opinions* on the game, and it skews my read on bulge. tbh i actually think leek is scum here?
Civil Scum feels really weird to me even tho he dead now
SevenEyes feels clear... hmmph. Leek and Seven have weird theater maybe on 14? they might be on the same team
SmileyDude on page 16 with the limpool is okay content
THS is clearly being an SE. i need to reread THS again and see if they're trying to slide SE cred and be a leader that way instead of towncred
Bulge is a townleader obviously.
SD1 town for post 420 i think

okay, end of day one.

1.FINAL
Votecount 1.FINAL

MagicalSteve (ELIMINATED):

iamveryhappy, The Bulge,

SmileyDude1, TheHoldSteady,

Civil Scum

SmileyDude1 (1):

CCGeek

Civil Scum (1): SzmarzLeek

Not Voting (2): SevenEyes,

MagicalSteve

i have filled out the slots that have *since* flipped green.

according to votecount analysis, THS is a likely scum, no wagon was a cleared townie

i don't know if i see bussing action as a possibility in a newbie? i know the newbies came from PS mafia mostly so that doesn't really help us in terms of "would an idiot do this? and if the answer is no, then scum votes came from town"

so

as of the end of day one

i read THS as possible scum

[Cook]

need to take a pause for a minute. two mafia games at once is hard to play

[Cook]

day 2:

we lost a VT and our protective. damn it. we know we're in either b2 or a1 though so
leekposting is just what it is tbh. townlean on leek
why does the bulge think he's not going to survive n1? feels a very obvious towntell
seven also has the same calculated voice as leek
bulge removes his previous towncred by posting 457
ccgeek and leek dislike each other?
SD1 town for apologizing in 466
leek's a little weird in 474
THS poe seems fine.
leek's point on sd1's scum in elo being very good also worries me too
the CS case? how did CS escape being suspected up to this point? the case clearly is getting built, time to watch who greases it
leek continues to concern me
and here comes HEM
SD1 focuses on themselves
also here comes merlyn instead of CS
merlyn's readslist is... i feel like it's wrong, but not wrong because she's scum
leek's reads in 522 don't explain the scumreads, but do explain the townreads?
wait hang on why do i like leek now
okay now i'm liking leek
HEM irks me with the defense of SevenEyes. makes me scumread him. the bulge push from HEM also does no favors, especially in hindsight. they don't have a rolecop but i would think they had a rolecop and found bulge possibly.
THS on page 24 could be scum. actually no i SR THS
SD1, HEM, THS are my scumrange as of pg 26
leek with the towncred on page 25
i'm townreading merlyn atp
still not sure what i think of SD1 as of page 26, they're losing cred as we're speaking. HEM/SD1 world doesn't make sense to me
why does HEM not die, given the state at pg 28?
szmarzleek's concerns still feel towny
i would be SR'ing merlyn with HEM on page 29

my thoughts end there since i stopped reading on page 29

[Cook]

i TR leek
i null to scumread SD1
i scumread HEM but sd1 and HEM i don't think are partners
i TR THS unless something changed significantly betweeen d2 and d3
my slot is town and i haven't gotten a chance to see flowrbucket really play yet

[Cook]

thank you for these thoughts Cook, thank you for the effort

will you continue reading later or that's where you'll be at now?

gonna try to read a little more. it's important that we nail one scum today but also we have to make two correct reads in a row without any cop info. unless bulge/drew posted n1 cop result?

[Cook]

this is also why i replaced in

[Cook]

now i'm trying to make the right call with barely any time to do it

[Cook]

this is more difficult than that because your bachelor's thesis doesn't lie to you

[Cook]

how

[Cook]

also is hem scum

[Cook]

had you telegraphed you were thinking those things before you were about to post them?

[Cook]

i don't think leek and ths are buddies

i see hem as likely scum. sd1, ths, are next, leek, myself, in that order

[Cook]

if Leek is scum he's just king of emotionally towntelling and we just lose

Its 2/3 for me between HEM, Smiley & Cook

hence why i'm so reluctant to SR. we may just lose if that's the case.

[Cook]

if Leek is scum he's just king of emotionally towntelling and we just lose

Its 2/3 for me between HEM, Smiley & Cook

hence why i'm so reluctant to SR. we may just lose if that's the case.

you think he could be scum but if you vote him we just side with him and vote for you instead? Is that what you mean?

????? what are you saying

i don't see it

likely

that he's scum. i am reluctant to scumread him. if he is actually scum, just as you said, we're playing against someone far stronger than us and we keel over and die.

[Cook]

lim is not on leek today. voting leek today is death for us i think

[Cook]

frankly i'm seeing THS/HEM as the pair? i need to read about 11 pages of content before i lock that in

the common theme seems to be hem across the four of us. i think it is helpful to try to draw out an associative on hem, up to your personal preference if you want to go for hem or want to try to kill a partner so that we 100% win d4

[Cook]

HEM, SD1, THS is my poe

[Cook]

i'm sure you will

[Cook]

you're telling me. I lose here and everyone for the rest of ms history will view the last newbie game and see me vote wrong three times in a row

better make it count then, huh?

[Cook]

leek, do you have something to share with the table?

[Cook]

OKAY IM SORRY I WAS WORKING UNTIL LATE AAAAAAA

[Cook]

ooh nice a pagetop

[Cook]

this is pretty much a coinflip solve. we can take our time with it i think. it’s my job to make that coin as weighted as possible in favor of a scum lim

ten more days to figure out if the flame of the newbies is snuffed out or gets to burn down in peace

[Cook]

er. seven days

[Cook]

smiley i'd like you to pick one of those two worlds as your solve

the way you're framing things makes me think that you're trying to be friendly to both slots early on to see who takes the bait on the other one

[Cook]

also THS, post content when you have the time

[Cook]

i'm gonna actually catch up on day 3 before my repin and see what i think

[Cook]

@THS

what does smiley look like as scum? hyperposting? does he lay back?

[Cook]

here's my dilemma:

if i go off of partner interactions, it seems like it'd be cook

if i go off of individual tells, i lean smiley

has there been any sort of consistency with my slot being solveworthy? or is it more a "ehh this feels like some of the interactions are scummy and the consensus against everyone who's played it seems to indicate it's scum"

[Cook]

yeah i can see how that's a tad bit concerning

[Cook]

here's my dilemma:

if i go off of partner interactions, it seems like it'd be cook

if i go off of individual tells, i lean smiley

has there been any sort of consistency with my slot being solveworthy? or is it more a "ehh this feels like some of the interactions are scummy and the consensus against everyone who's played it seems to indicate it's scum"

i'm hung up on 729 and 730 and hem and smiley pushing on each other yesterday because those are the things that seem to indicate they wouldn't be a team. and if they're not a team then it would have to be you by default

smiley's vote there

might

be an opportunistic bus? it's

really

weird how that wagon pivoted right at that moment, that doesn't look good on flowrbucket at

all

[Cook]

follow this with me for a sec

vc from before

2.04
Votecount 2.04

humaneatingmonkey

(E-2): TheHoldSteady,

SzmarzLeek

The Bulge

(1):

Merlyn

Merlyn

(1):

The Bulge

Not Voting (3):

patchwork

,

humaneatingmonkey

, SmileyDude1

With 7 players alive, it takes 4 votes to secure an elimination.

The day deadline is in (expired on 2023-08-27 21:29:34).

immediately hem puts up that vote to merlyn

VOTE: Merlyn

about three hours pass, then

Given we're closing in on EoD as you said, I think I'm moving here right now.

VOTE: humaneatingmonkey

E-1

and now that puts us at monkey (known scum) at e-1

patchwork has requested replacement.

The deadline is being reset to 48 hours and will be frozen until a replacement is found.

in that case i'll just take the extra time

UNVOTE: HumanEatingMonkey

we're running out of people willing to toss hem out, and there's this vote that slips loose from the wagon. which goes against the rest of the narrative of this game. it's odd. really odd

2.05

Votecount 2.05

humaneatingmonkey

(E-2):

SzmarzLeek

, SmileyDude1

Merlyn

(E-2):

The Bulge

,

humaneatingmonkey

The Bulge

(1):

Merlyn

Not Voting (2):

flowrbucket

, TheHoldSteady

With 7 players alive, it takes 4 votes to secure an elimination.

The day deadline is in (expired on 2023-08-29 20:12:20).

[Cook]

and yet look at the end of day 2. who's conspicuously missing from the end of this day?

it's flowrbucket and SD1

[Cook]

flowrbucket as a slot has an excuse – they flaked out

[Cook]

smileydude doesn't - he just dropped out for the last page and a half and let things happen the way they were gonna happen

[Cook]

i'm also looking at reads (685) and 799, and 866 while we're at it)

sd1 is not scumreading anyone in 685! not even hem, who is the closest of the two wagons! closest we have is a "scum side of null" to imply there's room for a town!hem world

[Cook]

799 is also interesting now that hem flipped

smiley is insistent on hem + anyone being a viable pair and yet hadn't pushed for his elimination

[Cook]

799 is also interesting now that hem flipped

smiley is insistent on hem + anyone being a viable pair and yet hadn't pushed for his elimination

I had pretty much from the beginning of day 3 forecasted my intention to vote for HEM, I spent that day phase taking another look at Leek and Hold (to determine if there was anything that had flown under my radar in regard to those two, cause otherwise it's just HEM/Flowr) and then looking at Non-HEM pairs to determine if there's a realistic solve that didn't include HEM, otherwise I just vote there). Most of that day was spent essentially ensuring that I wasn't engaging in a game-ending tunnel by sorting around HEM to determine if they were scum or not and I push them after I'm finished with that in my 931 and 965 making the latter part of your post slightly misleading.

It's almost 11 PM where i'm at and I have work in the morning so logging off for now, goodnight.

ah, consider me misinformed then

goodnight!

[Cook]

its doubt but doubt in a very different way than leek's doubt was presenting

are you thinking it's feigned doubt?

[Cook]

its doubt but doubt in a very different way than leek's doubt was presenting

are you thinking it's feigned doubt?

Not a fan of this post, it comes off as being more meant to stoke flames than anything else.

just trying to get a read on THS's opinions

[Cook]

Cook, who would you say you're leaning towards right now in terms of other scum?

other scum is honestly you atp

[Cook]

Cook why do you think its Smiley and Smiley are there any individual tells you think Cook would be scum or is it just interactions with HEM

sd1 has not impressed me as far as helping to solve the game. his wishy-washiness on who scum could be feels very much so like trying to appeal to both sides, so that he can appear to be friendly to both (makes him less able to be voted) until one of the townies "slips". once they slip, he can reasonably convince the other one to vote the other one, hammer, and end the game right there.

and i think that's what's happening here

[Cook]

"i scumread HEM but sd1 and HEM i don't think are partners" to now is also a weird progression

yeah, my progression is weird, i know. i don't really care about what i've been thinking in the past, i'm caring about what i'm thinking right

now

, in 3p ELo, and also keep in mind i hadn't read d3 up to that point

[Cook]

I agree with you that today hasn't been a good showing for her

yeah... irl shit, getting home late every day... trying my best guys

[Cook]

I need cases

lemme see what i can do tomorrow

i want to solve as much as you do, ths. i really do

[Cook]

NOOOOOOOOO

[Cook]

VOTE: TheHoldSteady

[Cook]

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

[Cook]

gg

[Cook]

that’s game. that’s the end of it all

[Cook]

the very last hammer in a newbie

and town fucking dropped the ball

[Cook]

god damn it i should have trusted you smiley you were posting way way more

[Cook]

((

[Cook]

i had a thought while we were in elo

you can sort of scumhunt with votes in elo

if someone votes someone else and scum does NOT quickhammer, then either you are voting scum or scum is voting you

[Cook]

so scum, reasonably, cannot vote first if both town players trust each other enough

[Cook]

Best repp in ever......conversely, worst repp in ever lol.

who and who lmao

[Cook]

i love how the cops collectively found the scumteam and just were too roleblocked or too dead to do anything about it

[Cook]

yeah good cop check though

[Cook]

i think iamvh could have been a little more subtle with the doctor. that might have kept town PRs alive for a bit longer.

also town's dayplay was not helped by the fact the town as a whole had to read

nineteen separate people

over the course of the game.

four of those occupied mafia slots.
fifteen of them occupied town slots.

there was ultimately a lot more consistency on the mafia side than the town side

[Cook]

PAGETOP!

MY PAGETOP TOO! MWAHAHAHAHA I HAVE EDIT POWERS!

- Alianna

[Cook]

rip newbie