This also answer's MOI's question to me. Implying that you are town is scummy. Town do not try and imply that they are town, they show it through their actions. Scum on the other hand have anti-town actions mixed in with town-looking actions. By implying that they are town, they try to mitigate their anti-town actions.projectmatt wrote:While making that post, I actually thought that the mods were playing also. This is my first game here, so I hope you can at least excuse that as an embarrassing mistake.Space Pope wrote:A mod vote is scummy whereas a random vote is not. The mod is not scum, therefore voting the mod is the same as not voting at all. Not voting does not give town information (early game scum distancing for instance). Voting someone, even if they say it is random, is still forming connections for later.
Post 31- Again saying you are town without trying to prove it. Plus the whole- This isn't OMGUS, but... seems a bit like preemptively trying to defend your post against being called OMGUS = scummy.
Also, prove to me that you're town. Do it. Right now. You can't, can you? You can say you're town all you want, but you can't prove it. The only "proof" is in the words that you say, and the things that you do.
projectmatt, ISO 0 wrote:Ah, I'm excited to finally see this start of this. This is my first gamebut I've played several hundred games of mafia on another websiteso I think I'll understand the basics, at least. This site seems to have the same basic terminology that most mafia games do, so let's get this started.
Tell me, on this other site were the mods players? Didn't that seem to be a bit unbalanced if the mods know all of the roles in the game and who has them?projectmatt, ISO 4 wrote:While making that post, I actually thought that the mods were playing also. This is my first game here, so I hope you can at least excuse that as an embarrassing mistake.
Don't understand the whole prevention part. Are you saying that scum wouldn't put someone at L-2 because it would be too suspicious?ZengarZombolt wrote:EBWOP:Actually this holds true. Until the votes are presented with proper reasoning, you can't really have them count as being actually there unless we had a very dangerous case like L-1 or a full lynch. But on those cases, scumtells would have been oh so obvious, almost sacrificial. You could say that voteMagnaofIllusion wrote: Your response was to not directly answer but first show how the wagon on Project was baseless (in your opinion) and then to try to say that the RVS votes mean Rocky was not really at L-2.preventedscum from voting further on Rocky since it would have been very suspicious with what little reasoning there is normally so early.
Ahem.Space Pope wrote:Don't understand the whole prevention part. Are you saying that scum wouldn't put someone at L-2 because it would be too suspicious?ZengarZombolt wrote:EBWOP:Actually this holds true. Until the votes are presented with proper reasoning, you can't really have them count as being actually there unless we had a very dangerous case like L-1 or a full lynch. But on those cases, scumtells would have been oh so obvious, almost sacrificial. You could say that voteMagnaofIllusion wrote: Your response was to not directly answer but first show how the wagon on Project was baseless (in your opinion) and then to try to say that the RVS votes mean Rocky was not really at L-2.preventedscum from voting further on Rocky since it would have been very suspicious with what little reasoning there is normally so early.
Yes it was that. It made me look at Zengar. His actively lurking made it seem like mogri was helping him lurk, if that makes sense. It wasn't a strong connection like I said, but I wanted Zengar to participate more and I was trying to see if I could form a connection from that (which is why I didn't say my number 2 suspect to tip Mogri off).TOGTFO wrote:Can you please show where mogri answered for Zengarbolt? I must be overlooking it. I am guessing he answered the L-2 question which you are so hung up about. I am not sure how that was a strong bases for a case on Zengar.Space Pope wrote: My two biggest suspiciouns are/were Mogri and Zengarbolt. Don't have access to my notes right now, but from memory it revolves around Mogri's loaded question/refusal to answer, going off on fallacies. Zengar is less so now. I felt he was actively lurking (but that is now striken), and I when I asked Zengar to elaborate on something and he didn't AND Mogri tried to answer for him, I felt a bit of a connection. I was waiting for Zengar to participate and then try and see if Mogri would continue answering his questions or that he would somehow post something that would either link them moreso or would be flat out scummy.
To explain why I was waiting for Zengar, obv. I don't think that makes you scummy, I gave other reasons why.Mogri wrote:If it helps, Zengar was replaced, so he wasn't so much "actively lurking" as "not here at all." I really don't get why you think my connection with Zengar makes me scummy if you no longer think Zeng -- er, Jerako -- is scummy. I mean, why'd you even bring it up?
You haven't unvoted Jason yet, which is what I would expect since you are "siding" with Jason a bit more. Also, I never said the less active are scummy, just that they need to post more. It would be easy for scum to hide in the background. And if he didn't defend himself as well?Jerako wrote:@Jerako, TOGTFO – you both need to make some sort of solid post outlining you scum suspect soon.
My suspicions on Jason haven't changed in the slightest. If anything, the way he's making a coherent, sensible argument now against matt worries memore.He's clearly intelligent enough to realize that some of the things he was saying D1 were ridiculous.
MagnaofIllusion wrote:Notice that he's once again fixated on ONE player (this time Project) and that his 'suspicion' of Stefunny is just window dressing. He hasn't addressed her once.
He's still playing quite clearly to his scum meta.
MagnaofIllusion wrote:SpacePope wrote:1) Yes I did fake claim. I was reaction fishing as I thought Jason was town. Two cops would make scum act weird. Great reaction by Jason, lawl.
Um this doesn’t make much sense, at least the reaction fishing part. Had Jason been Town Cop the logical reaction would to immediately vote you as counter-claiming scum. Because Town has no reason to counter-claim if they are Vanilla.
What would have been your reaction had Jason voted for you?
gave you an easy slide for a bit until the last day, though you probably didn't need it. The bussing of Jason seemed like a genuine cop/guilty result (which I'm betting was your intention in case a doc flipped/claimed).