Newbie Game #543 - Foul Deeds in Isafin (flawless town win)

[alvinz95]

/confirm

[alvinz95]

Lol, i've played 5 games face to face... so i know how but no strategies... Is there any strategy in mafia?

[alvinz95]

Vote: rosso carne

cause he insulted me, though i am a noob, so he does have the right too. but still...

[alvinz95]

Now rosso carne is

LYNCHED

!

[alvinz95]

@ alvinz95: Are you eager to get Rosso Carne lynched?

Well, i thought there was 4 votes on him....

-alvinz95
-oierw
-angelbird
-cioly

[alvinz95]

Woah, woah woah. I never said that i was eager to lynch.... Jumping to conclusions eh?

quicklynching never helps the town.

Hmmm... something suspicious about that. JK, just messing with ya.

[alvinz95]

I have no strategies (if there are any) in mafia, since i've only played at a party about 5 times...

[alvinz95]

So, how long does a day on a mafia forum usually last?

[alvinz95]

What is FOS?

[alvinz95]

Well, in the games i play, usually the "quiet" ones are the mafia....

[alvinz95]

Well, in the games i play, usually the "quiet" ones are the mafia....

in the games i play, usually the scummy people are mafia.

Well, i guess you might be right, since i've only played 5+ games. So, following my own advice.

Unvote: Rosso Carne VOTE: James Rogers

[alvinz95]

What is "scummy"?

[alvinz95]

You'll be very sorry if you do lynch me, just sayin.

[alvinz95]

Feel free to though cause i can't stop ya.

[alvinz95]

If you think i'm mafia, then just vote, don't just kill time using the FOS pretending you're trying to rid "scummy" people when you are mafia. If you were REALLY a townsperson then you would've voted for me already.

So....

Unvote: Vote: Rosso Carne

[alvinz95]

Hmmm.... when will this lynching ever end? What is the average time span that it takes to lynch some one?

[alvinz95]

No, i'm just eager since mafia is fun! And i never have anyone to play with, until i found a FORUM! yay.

[alvinz95]

All i can do now is laugh!!! hehehehehehehehe.... you'll regret that vote soon.

[alvinz95]

Yay the plot is thickening. Rosso is accused of cop. I'm a accused of mafia (pssht). Cioly is accused of mafia.

[alvinz95]

ARE YOU AN IDIOT!??

first off, when i see cioly's role is when cioly is lynched. then we see the role. dont be a douche talking about roles. when power roles want to claim, then they claim, so dont go role fishing. its untownly, and should never be done. id be willing to get behind a oierw wagon for that.

and i meant "the cop" which i dont know who is and as of yet do not want to know.

Why wouldn't you want to know who the cop is. Then you would know that that person is right.

[alvinz95]

you're on a college basketball team or you just watching?

[alvinz95]

If there isn't a lynch by this week, will there be a deadline imposed? I don't want an abandoned game on my first one.

[alvinz95]

Rosso Carne: I didn't say this before, but I thought you were lynch because i didn't know what FOS meant and thought it was a vote. Thats why. I don't see how that is good evidence to support the accusation, just a misconception. And, this IS a newbie game, so most of my stuff is probably the suckiest defence, and you don't have to shove my words back in my face.

Johoohno:

Don't have one at the moment.

But the reason why i suspect Rosso of being scum is because he comes out thinking he can "hammah" people easily and take control of the game (scummy), defends himself by saying how stupid the post was, seems to be taking tiny details that i see of no importance of (could be untrue), and thats about it. Sorry its a bit harsh, but i know i over exaggerated. Now rosso will probably point out the stupid stuff in this post. Don't flame my poor accusation.

Another might be skitzer: spurgistan voted for me and just seems weird.

[alvinz95]

Another point is that rosso continually forces the information that he's part of the town, which to me is scummy.

[alvinz95]

The remainder of your posts are simply spritz, and I really havent seen you contribute anything of real substance.

What to count as "contributing"? Accusing people?

[alvinz95]

it was as bad as that stupid strategy with " i'm mafia vote me! i'm voting myself ! "

and that attitude "i'm a beginner...don't vote me...don't accuse me...don't analyse what i say.."

I said before, i have NO strategy here. I have the suckiest defence you could ever imagine. Just look at my post. No need to cram words back in my face eh?

[alvinz95]

Rosso, why didn't you "defend" your self?

[alvinz95]

ill be happy with a cioly lynch by page 6

Who's happy to lynch people? Scum.

It just hurts the town, and it pays to be aggressive unless youre scum.

Again, forcing information that he's part of the town.

ARE YOU AN IDIOT!??

Aggressiveness. Scum are aggresive.

its untownly,

Again forcing information of town.

that is very very unhelpful to the town.

Same thing AGAIN.

[alvinz95]

There! That some decent contributing?

[alvinz95]

Yes i agree, people say they are town usually WHEN THEY ARE ACCUSED. They don't just randomly announce it like now. Hey everyone, I'm town not mafia! He continually forces that information through unnaturrally.

[alvinz95]

By the way, what is "lurking"? (yes i know nothing when it comes to mafia "terms")

[alvinz95]

I've decided to reconsider my decision on Rosso. So,

unvote: rosso carne

Well, well, activity has increased a lot here. Excellent.

Thats because we now have 4 main contributers. Johoohno, Rosso, skitzer, and mizzy.

No, I don't feel that alvinz95 has contributed that much yet, although he is trying more and more.

No, I don't feel that alvinz95 has contributed that much yet, although he is trying more and more.

Again what is considered some decent contributing? I tried, but failed in my weak attempt.

Has alvinz contributed nearly enough to even be considered a player in this game?

If a townie gets themselves nightkilled, good for them. That means they did a great job. Scum saw them as too good of a threat.

You now are in exposing yourself to "scum", otherwise it is a strategy that you are pretending to be town by doing what a towny does. that probably didn't make any sense.

you n00Bz

Aggression against noobz. Not so townly to me.


Obviously my points probably aren't real good since i don't even have much experience in mafia in real life, not just on a forum.

agression is a town action, and sitting around being a douchebag is not.

if you are being OVER aggressive, you are giving out your role since you are trying to hard to blend in with the town.

I wouldn't dayvig anyone right now.

Whats dayvig?

[alvinz95]

Aw shoot, my quotes are all messed up. Hopefully you guys can figure it out.

[alvinz95]

Well, what can we do to speed this game up? The majority of the people have not voted.

[alvinz95]

Hmmm, cioly hasn't posted in a while.

[alvinz95]

I reapply my vote on rosso

Vote: Rosso Carne

alvinz95 (Tiny posts with very little content. Seems to post to make us all happy.)

The reason why i don't have much stuff is because i don't know what to blame people on since I'm not the best at this game which everyone has noticed by now. I don't know what things that people say make them a scum.

cioly needs to be lynched and cioly needs to be lynched fast.

That seems scummy.

[alvinz95]

i just noticed that people voting for me are the replacements.

[alvinz95]

ARGHHHH! I will say again: I DON"T KNOW HOW TO CONTRIBUTE WELL CAUSE I DON'T KNOW WHAT PEOPLE SAY WILL MAKE THEM A SCUM!!!! I hate it when people don't listen sometimes.

[alvinz95]

Rosso Carne, if you are satisfied with a alvinz lynch, why are you not voting? Or is it that you want to be the one to quote on quote, HAMMAH?

Exactly, thats what I said, but then you called my comment scummy.

Why the flip-flopping?

The reason? First time, i voted rosso for a dumb reason, so i took it out. then seeing how rosso is EXTREMELY eager to lynch cioly, but is still not voting, it proves to me that rosso may be in the same league as cioly, since rosso is using the role blocking technique by being anxious voting for her to make it seem like they aren't together.

[alvinz95]

id actually be happy with an alvinz lynch based on the fact that this is the worst case of lurking in plain sight ive ever seen.

How am i lurking? Isn't lurking like not participating to win?

[alvinz95]

May I ask you a question, alvinz? Do you know what hammering is? It is placing the lynch vote. Therefore, RC is unlikely to vote before the hammer vote. I realize this could just be confusion.

Oh! Thats what it is. I feel real stupid now.

[alvinz95]

Thats one strategy that was put on me in one of the face-2-face games i played. Thats how i know.

[alvinz95]

In face-2-face, the words they say are never used against people, so i have no experience picking stuff out that points at people that are scum.

[alvinz95]

oh comon Rolling Eyes Neutral what kind of mafia game is not based on discussion and on what people say....and in what game people don't analyse what other say...and use their results....
it's illogical...and so is this "i'm a n00b.i don't know what to say how to play any strategy" and then accuse a player of such a complex strategy...and then show that you haven't simply guess it or deduct it...you have seen it before...well if those players with whome you have played before clearly knew pretty well how to play this game...and i'm sure they used words...and they interpretated what others were saying so he's clearly scum and wanting to defend himself with excuses such like those

I just thought of a real strategy that could be use, but wasn't sure if it would actually be used in mafia. What i meant by i don't know any strategy was that i don't know the "typical" and "common" strategy that people use. Has my accused strategy been used before anyway?

Shocked Shocked Shocked
...and ....how do they accuse then?..by the way that person looks...or...their movement?....u'm sure that those games involved the "day-period"~"discussion"...where people said things and find out things...so...
you're loosing yourself through lies...way too suspicious

They're not lies. The games i played f2f, everyone didn't know how to play, so we just randomly accused people and if they were acting abnormal.

@ cioly: Since you're not fond of lying you should strike out at Rosso, he wanted you lynched by page 6 and you seem to be alive and kicking on page eight as well

Maybe they are covering each other.

[alvinz95]

@ everyone: I don’t feel that I’m getting any new or useful information even though people are posting. It is a bit disturbing. Anyone got a remedy for that (other than lynching to get to night shift)?

What do you ask for? Posts that are especailly scummy? Posts that give good points?

[alvinz95]

and I'm all in favor of a majority decision).

Isn't that what a scum does? Sift in with the peoples decisions like joining the bandwagon on lynching someone? Am i right?

[alvinz95]

No. A lynch takes a majority decision, too, and the majority of the people in a game are town. Scum do try to "fit in" but this, I think, is not a case of that.

Thanks for telling me.

[alvinz95]

My list.

Rosso: Over aggressive than a townie should be. Always is throwing in the fact he is town. WIlling to lynch cioly alot. Using hammah. Lots of experience. Overall good player. takes previous pointless statements and shoves them in your face.
Mizzy: to me has only tried to make the game faster and help newbies. a bit suspicious.
cioly: May be in league with rosso. quieter.
joohoono: suspicously quiet and good player. not much revealed yet.

[alvinz95]

I'm ready for the hammer on me. Good analysis joohoohno.

@Rosso Carne: Two questions: If alvinz was actually just confused about the posts and his "lynched!" comment was made entirely as someone excited for his first game of online mafia, what else has he done this game to make you think he is scummy?

Think about that for a few seconds before continuing on.

Really, I'll wait.

Okay. Most likely you said it was because he is lurking. What exactly has he done that is lurking? It can't be not posting. He actually has over 1/5th of the comments in this game. I didn't look to see exactly how they have gone up during the game, but still, he has almost 50% more than you. They may have less content, but that's expected of all us new people.

I will admit what i did wrong. Over eager on an miscount of votes on Rosso. Thought FoS was a vote. Been using a "newb" shield as excuses. Only voting for Rosso.

[alvinz95]

• What do you mean by the talk about role blocking in post 171?
• What strengths and weaknesses do you see in, during day 1, discussing about what people might be scum partners?
• If Rosso – the one and only you’ve voted for so far – is lynched and comes out town, who do you expect to be scum then?
• Look back at post 85 and answer the question there.

1. Well, since i have no strategies in my head, i decided to try and come up with one. Here is how it works. People accuse people of being mafia/blocker when they support each other, so the mafia/blocker decide to do the opposite to conceal his role. The role blocker decides to accuse his partner (usually not accused too much, like Rosso accusing cioly) to hide the fact that they are in the same league.
2. I would say cioly, because my strategy is most likely false. I'm just going to forget about my strategy.
3. That means I'm obviously someone besides scum, so you'll regret a hammer or vote.

[alvinz95]

absolutely nothing has alvinz contributed to the game except "i dont konw what to do" and "you'll be sorry if you lynch me because im a townie"

these are the kinds of defenses that scum make cuz they dont have a real defense.

I say last time, i'm trying, but not sure what makes people scum god dammit!

[alvinz95]

Yes i'm giving up, and this is my "blah" speech. I have made too many nooby/scummy mistakes to recover, and my lynch is inevitable. There's nothing I can do. Tomorrow i'll just get hammered by Rosso. I'm too impatient to see your reaction so i ask you to finish the lynch on me, Rosso and Mizzy/Johoohno/Oirew

RIGHT NOW

and speed this game up. Hopefully i will do better in the future. THis game has already taught me alot.

Good luck townies!

And Mizzy, I'm just tired of people complaining that i've done nothing. I can't learn that quickly. Anyway, not much has been revealed much that's scummy except ME, and I don't want to accuse my self. I'm not that experienced IRL anyway.

My vote still stands on Rosso the scum i still believe in.

My random claims.

Rosso Carne: Mafia Roleblocker
Cioly: Mafia Goon
Townie: Johoohno
Townie: Skitzer
Townie: Mizzy
Townie: Oirew
(will not specify cop or doctor)

Last thing:

HAPPY VALENTINES DAY!!!!

[alvinz95]

I'm 100% sure that you'll be surprised at my role.

[alvinz95]

Mizzy, vote me.

[alvinz95]

Stop being a pain in the ass and play the game.

I'm not, and i'm trying to make you guys a FAVOR. Guess none of you won't take to it. This atmoshpere sucks.

[alvinz95]

Here i will attempt to back my claim on Rosso Carne

notable posts:

Post 9:

I'm basically the best player here.

don't listen to anyone else.

Acts as if he is the best.

Post 34:

don't like the quick voting and fossing me, but thats cool. no one better throw the 3rd vote on me or i swear ill bear down on you like no tommorow.

Enforces that he hates quick lynching, and uses aggresion.

Post 48:

so you're scum with him?

Cioly lightly doesn't agree with Rosso, but then Rosso automatically assumes Cioly is gang with me with no proof

Post 67

ill be happy with a cioly lynch by page 6.

Quite eager to vote cioly with no facts to back it up.

Post 69:

jumping right in front of alvinz after scummy actions is pretty good id say

Again automatically assumes and says that cioly is with me after cioly lightly backed me up a little.

Post 76:

right now, we need to focus on lynching cioly.

Showing his will to lynch cioly. Possibly in gang according to my crazy strategy.

Post 90:

first off, when i see cioly's role is when cioly is lynched. then we see the role. dont be a douche talking about roles. when power roles want to claim, then they claim, so dont go role fishing. its untownly, and should never be done. id be willing to get behind a oierw wagon for that.

Again talking about a cioly lynch. Gets sorta annoyed and doesn't support his statement besides "its un-townly"

Post 156:

dont attack because i found something absolutely scummy and attack it inherently. its because im so narrow minded on targets that im the best player ever. I found scum. the scum needs to be lynched. i will HAMMAH!

Showing the hammer, gives his strategy.

Post 163:

d actually be happy with an alvinz lynch based on the fact that this is the worst case of lurking in plain sight ive ever seen.

Accuses me of lurking with no evidence. Shows his alvinz95-lynch-happiness along with his cioly lycnh will

Post 196:

i feel that I am happy with an alvinz lynch, and if alvinz turns up town, then cioly is the ylnch tommorow.

Again shows his willingness to lynch me and cioly without showing his reason.

There hope i made you competitive people happy.[/list]

[alvinz95]

How am I the most townly?? I've done the most stupid things in this game.

[alvinz95]

Oh, sorry. Never noticed that.

[alvinz95]

Well, today, Rosso will hammer me. Good luck town.

[alvinz95]

Thanks for advice skitz.

[alvinz95]

controversial move

unvote

The evidence i found i realized he wasn't really bad.

[alvinz95]

O crap.

[alvinz95]

Hey, scum, whoever you are i might be lying.

[alvinz95]

Well, according to mizzy, oierw is gang with cioly so I'm the only one left to hammer cioly so here we go.

Bye, sorry.

Vote: cioly

[alvinz95]

Well, then someone would have accused me of supporting cioly.

[alvinz95]

Oh crap. Well, I don't want to be a flip-flopper, so I'll stay on that vote.

[alvinz95]

Actually, she voted me, so people won't think i'm with cioly, so

Unvote

[alvinz95]

I have a very good feeling on a vote on skitzer being SCUM.

1. He didn't vote cioly.
2. Hasn't participated much.
3. Didn't choose to lynch some one because his sig says he is OUT OF TOWN FOR THE WEEKEND.

[alvinz95]

Tell me what youthink of my thought. I think oierw needs to be replaced btw.

[alvinz95]

Post 33:
[quote=spurgistan]When you unvote, the vote no longer counts for that player. When somebody unvotes, they can vote Alvinz, for example, and the player I was voting for (the inimitable James Rogers) has one less vote, meaning it will need four votes for him to be lynched. Patience, grasshopper.[/quote]
Voted for Alvinz, but holds no reason and tells no reason why. Because I miss counted votes thnking FoS was a vote?

Post 167:
[quote=skitzer]Sorry, I've been quite busy, but I am comfortable with my vote right now. [/quote]
Keeps vote on me, because he knows cioly is with him.

psot 254:
[quote=skitzer]OK, if someone tells me WHY cioly is a better lynch than alvinz, there is a VERY miniscule chance I'll change my vote. But it'll need a very good reason.
[/quote]
Again same as above.

[alvinz95]

Wait, for a no lynch, do we have to wait for like 2 months again like day one?

[alvinz95]

I'm SO confused right now.

[alvinz95]

So should I tell everyone my role?

[alvinz95]

Ok, I'll just wait for you guys to do your stuff, and I'll follow your orders to eliminatescum.

[alvinz95]

So should when should i claim my role? I'm confused on your calculations.

[alvinz95]

Mizzy
Johoohno
Rosso
Oierw
Skitzer

[alvinz95]

Is a claim order when everyone claims their role?

[alvinz95]

I'm pretty sure I'm at the bottom.

Are you saying you are scum?

And mizzy, i still don't understand how to properly quote. Can you explain it again?

[alvinz95]

Ok, thanks.

[alvinz95]

I am the doctor, and should i say who I saved?

[alvinz95]

Wait, what is a "vanilla" townie?

[alvinz95]

Was I supposed to state what power role i was?

[alvinz95]

Rosso is next.

[alvinz95]

Johoohno is up.

[alvinz95]

I saved mizzy.

[alvinz95]

I still believe skitzer is scum, because in his list, he puts mizzy as the towniest, and mizzy was killed, though i saved her.

[alvinz95]

just have one comment. Something that hasn't been thought of, I think. We only have two confirmed townies. It is possible that there was no NK attempt, although with the math the way it is, it would have been a very bold move by the scum (I would put it on bordering insane).

This would put us at knowing the doc and cop only. If we just go down the list, there is still a chance scum can win.

Yes, this is why I suspect skitzer. Either he didn't choose anyone to kill because he was out of town (his signature while night was in place), or he attempted to NK mizzy, but failed to because of me.

[alvinz95]

Well, a oierw lynch will cause me to die possibly, but I WILL die for a town victory!

Vote: oierw

Now its left for skitzer or Rosso to deal the finishing blow.

[alvinz95]

Hmmm, when will flay get here.

[alvinz95]

Yay! I've learned alot from this game.