Blitz 5: Netherspite's Blitz SORM Mafia [Game Over]

[Professor Bozo]

VOTE: Hippy love
Claim or die.

YOU ARE NOT EVEN TOUCHING THEM I SWEAR

[Professor Bozo]

also i jsut became aware this was starting. i notified mod to tell em on main from now on.

[Professor Bozo]

VOTE: fire

this dies now

[Professor Bozo]

i also got overnight work tonight so i will be back not till tommorw soon

[Professor Bozo]

mollieeeeeee

[Professor Bozo]

moliee ar eyou here?

[Professor Bozo]

shes goign to sleep around this time froger shes 6 hrs ahread of mine and 5 ahead of yours

[Professor Bozo]

moliee ar eyou here?

yessss

mollie whats your role? we are going to break the game like we do always

[Professor Bozo]

hey fire can you get recording of the death animations for nehter? it would be fun to play the mothership extended version

pedit: ...............

[Professor Bozo]

ok ill brb i gotta get ready for work then i can soare a few mins

pedit: random you vote to fire then we are aleady lynchign anyone who dares trie to lynch you right now

[Professor Bozo]

What are we doing? lol

we aren't lynching scum and mindlessly wagoning pple for no reason.

do you have a problem with this?

you dont think fire is sucm?

[Professor Bozo]

in b4 we have judge and we have to PM a lot again

[Professor Bozo]

if we have a judge I quit.

why? judges its best troll role known plus in fm seetting you you can try to figure the jusge base on how they post

I'm taking you to court for such mindless speculation.

judge claim here lynch 2 inbound

[Professor Bozo]

frogger did you read the judge card yet?

[Professor Bozo]

can someone oragnaize claims also im gonna make a chart on a spreadsheet for it so i ican work out what cna ancant exist

[Professor Bozo]

It's not l-1. Lynch requires 9 votes.....are you high, Fire?

Forgot this is a 16 player game. Thought it was a 13.
And yes, I am high.

I made a bad name for myself (Ika will get it)

go sign up i fixed the passsword.

also go get his avi for us so we cna post it and use it as ours

@frogger, come back to me when you read how jusge worked this game is rapid and i like

[Professor Bozo]

Court:

During the day phase

, you may PM me that you wish to call the Court. When the Court starts, I will lock the game thread and post information about the started Court.

i forgot it was mario who was mashall, i just look at marshal revealing

although if you looked at game one it was quite funny

edit: omg fire is claimign jailor i bet

[Professor Bozo]

anaywa work time

[Professor Bozo]

ok so ranger is scum number 2 good to know.

[Professor Bozo]

One if not both of those neutral benigns need death.

we arent lycnhign frogger though?

[Professor Bozo]

Claims List:

Town Government [MarioManiac Confirmed Marshall]
Town Investigative [Smitheerens]
Town Protective [idiot servant]
Town Investigative or Protective [hi im yakko-Investigative]
Town Killing or Power [Jeanee11-Killing]
Town Killing or Power [Farisde22-Power]
Town Random [ForWhomTheJellyRolls-Investigative]
Town Random [Aronis-Government/Citizen]
Town Random [Zymf-Government]
Godfather
Mafia Support
Mafia Deception
Neutral Killing
Neutral Evil
Neutral Benign [Fro99er Amnesiac]
Neutral Random [Yreckt Benign]

Added

You forgot your own claim of a protective town role.

updated

[Professor Bozo]

WILL PEOPLE STOP TRYING TO FUCKING LYNCH MOLLIE?

[Professor Bozo]

WILL PEOPLE STOP TRYING TO FUCKING LYNCH MOLLIE?

No, if she doesn't claim. She is eating rope.

You have zero reason to fight for her not getting lynched.
She isn't cooperating with town, and seriously you are pissing me off Ika.

I HAVE EVERY FUCKING REASON TO FIGHT HER FUCKING LYNCH. YOU DO NOT EVEN CROSS ME WHEN IT COMES TO MOLLIE. I DONT GIVE A FLYING FUCK IF IT PISSES YOU THE FUCK OFF. MOLLIE IS NOT BEING LYNCHED

[Professor Bozo]

fire, im gonna say this once, dont even make that kind of comment towards me aagin about mollie, you dont even knwo how much shit she ahs helped me though.

i owe her more then ican ever give and i will be damned before i see her lynched right now

[Professor Bozo]

Shut up Ika, you are asking us to not lynch Mollie over no reason what so ever.
Their is 0 case except that you like mollie.

do you seriously not think she shouldn't claim?

Like what is your logic here, she can be the only one not claim? Cause.....that will help town.

Your putting words in my mouth fire. i do agree she should calim but if we are lynchign her i do not want her being the first fucking lynch of the fucking game. I like her cus she helps me with my depression and motivates me to play my games regarless of her alignment. if we lycnh her before i get a full say and work with her to decide i will be pissed off beond words

@Idiot Savant: Don't drag previous games into this one please

im not, im bring out a player who i know is not only one of the best players in this game right now, but someoen who i know and like to work with cus they understand me for me

fire, im gonna say this once, dont even make that kind of comment towards me aagin about mollie, you dont even knwo how much shit she ahs helped me though.

i owe her more then ican ever give and i will be damned before i see her lynched right now

WHAT DOES THIS HAVE TO DO WITH THIS GAME WE ARE IN!!!!

LISTEN TO YOURSELF FOR A MINUTE PLEASE!!!

EVERYTHING, I AM LISTENITNG TO MYSELF FIRE. I DO NOT WANT HER LYCNHED UNTILL I WORK WITH HER.

[Professor Bozo]

fire, how about a compermise. we got 3 lycnhes today.

if she does not claim after the second lynch i will not stop you form lynchign her, deal? your right i do liek mollie, but what you dont understand is how deep its runs to me. she means the world to me. the fact i am finally able to play with her again means a lot and having her lycnh day fucking one (on the first lycnh no less) is the last thing i want.

[Professor Bozo]

Give me a legitimate reason why mollie is town. She has randomly voted half the people in the game with no explanation and failed to massclaim despite the town's requests. That's not protown behavior.

i have made it clear i do not want her to be the first fucking lynch. if she continues i wil be more then happy to set aside and lynch her but before then no.

i haev made my stance clear

[Professor Bozo]

fire, im gonna say this once, dont even make that kind of comment towards me aagin about mollie, you dont even knwo how much shit she ahs helped me though.

i owe her more then ican ever give and i will be damned before i see her lynched right now

This is a game. And mollie could very easily be scum. What she has done outside of this game has nothing to do with her alignment and to use that as a reason to keep her alive when she has exhibited anti-town behavior in the game is ridiculous.

I DONT GIVE A FUCKIGN DAMN ANROUS.

[Professor Bozo]

jsut do me a favor and leave her off the table for lynch 1. if she doesnt claim by then i will not stop on lynch 2. if we dont by then and she still hasnt i will ram the lynch myself.

i just, want to play and not be triggered every 5 seconds

[Professor Bozo]

that being said. im walking away so i can cool down

[Professor Bozo]

This is ridiculous. We're not going to put someone off the table for lynch based on reasons outside of the game. If there's a reason to vote for her, she should be voted. If there's none, then she won't. But we're not giving free passes.

too fucking bad, i already made it clear how i want it

jsut do me a favor and leave her off the table for lynch 1. if she doesnt claim by then i will not stop on lynch 2. if we dont by then and she still hasnt i will ram the lynch myself.

i just, want to play and not be triggered every 5 seconds

Uh is this for real?

yes who am i talking to?

[Professor Bozo]

Nobody knows how to play this.
I hate this game already.

now you realize my pain? not the moille part but the rest of it

[Professor Bozo]

Nobody knows how to play this.
I hate this game already.

Lol did you just call the one guy you're arguing with everyone in the negative? It's just one guy. I was thinking we were gonna lynch in the surplus of roles and to the day a third party.

me and fire have over 1000 games of this played. you dont realize how frustrating it is when people go in their own worlds

that being said

VOTE: ranger

im willing to lay off fire for now cus hes willing to compermise with me

[Professor Bozo]

Would you mind voting someone else that is my town read

VOTE: yakko

[Professor Bozo]

Oh no no no I'm so stupid

i vote him so he pisses me off by voting hippie love

pedit: ......

im jsut gonna go back to this then

VOTE: ranger

[Professor Bozo]

VOTE: kraeg

[Professor Bozo]

There are definitely too many people claiming town, (obviously) I'm all for going after one of the town protective claims to figure out what's what.

I think Firebringer is town and the weird vibes I was getting for Yakko are gone. Probably town too. Kraeg and Idiot Savant, I'm not so sure about. Something doesn't sit right with me about Dwelee either.

there were only 2 protective claims?

[Professor Bozo]

my current list only has me and fire lsited as the claimed protectives

[Professor Bozo]

ok now my lsit is updated

[Professor Bozo]

so far no CC on jenne/far in the power/kill

invest/protect right now
Town Investigative [Smitheerens/yakko/forjelly]
Town Protective [idiot servant/firebringer/kraig]
Town Investigative or Protective

town random
Town Random [aronis/zymf]

yes i realize we have another slot for protect/invest but unill the first gets filled i dont see a reason to put them in

[Professor Bozo]

confirmable roles at night w/o needing another player on n1 are cirer/judge/busdriver

[Professor Bozo]

is mollie here? i want ot talk to her and how fire is right on the mass claim idea

[Professor Bozo]

confirmable roles at night w/o needing another player on n1 are cirer/judge/busdriver

He claimed government.
Would imagine crier or judge and judge can't be that effective in this timeframe, I don't see it as a threat.

Zymf, at night you must cry, "I am Zymf."

i figured. i just wok up thouh so i havent fully read up

[Professor Bozo]

Seriously, fuck this game.
I already said it.

NOBODY KNOWS HOW TO PLAY THIS.

i do as well.

You don't decide that.

Yes I do.

not really frogger im with fire on this that mass claim is ideal here. im not going to goad mollie about it but playing over 1000 games of this mass claim is the optimal play

[Professor Bozo]

VOTE: Aronis

[Professor Bozo]

mollie?

[Professor Bozo]

mollie?

I am against mass claiming i always have been. you know this.

you know what I find fascinating about "game breaking" strategies is that they never very game breaking.

But we are trying to show you that with the set rolelist we have we can at least narrow everyones claims to a certain catagory and then when an impossible role exist we lynch it cus they are lying.

is everything ok mollie?

[Professor Bozo]

@ ika - this is why I hate playing with you, you don't play the tape all the way through.

I dont fully understand (i think i do) but i feel like i am playing the tape all the way, i explained that me and fire played this variation before cus its basicly a SC2 mafia mod game that gets broken by the massclaim

I try to avoid open set ups like the plague but there is ALWAYS some1 who thinks they have a gamebreaking strategy and the next thing you know the game is over, town lost and a bunch of pple are wandering around going "oh how did that happen".

first game town should of won but lost due to timeframe

all it does is create 1 gigantic d1 mess, pple are picking up on false positives, you aren't playing the tape all the way through and you aren't asking yourself why do you think scum wld think this is a good idea. show me a game ON THIS SITE where d1 mass claim worked out and then mebbe I will listen. until then no.

See that game above, i was scum and i did it as scum knowing it is optimal play cus it narrows the pool of claims i could of escaped from. I feel like i am playing the tape all the way and that my expeince of playing such setup is how it is.

im sorry mollie. i wanted to make it enjoyable but apprently i did the opposite for you

[Professor Bozo]

sigh i fucked up quote tags again

[Professor Bozo]

"should have won" is not the same as winning. so no, that game does not qualify as proof that mass claiming on d1 is a good idea.

..........

im sorry.

im gonna go then

[Professor Bozo]

"should have won" is not the same as winning. so no, that game does not qualify as proof that mass claiming on d1 is a good idea.

..........

im sorry.

im gonna go then

don't get all pouty I hate that.

give me your assessment of mario as a player and will show you what I mean.

honestly i have not played with mari much so i dunno much about himas a player if thats what your asking.

im sorry i dont mean to get pouty but its jsut... i m sorry mollie i

its jsut ~stuff~

[Professor Bozo]

i mean hes confirmed town in her ebut he hasnt really done all that much, and whiles its slightly irksome, i actaly like ICs who play like that more then ones who try to dictate.

my as IC role outside of this game at least would let the game go and then amke on post near end of day about all thoguhts and stuff

[Professor Bozo]

i dont think im pouty though overall just morbidly depressed right now

[Professor Bozo]

ok im home now im gonna read up and respond

[Professor Bozo]

honestly i have not played with mari much so i dunno much about himas a player if thats what your asking.

im sorry i dont mean to get pouty but its jsut... i m sorry mollie i

its jsut ~stuff~

well I have 1 or 2 completed marathon games with him and 1 completed game with him as a hydra so i don't have much experience with him either but I will tell you my assessment of him.

1)I think it sucks to be modconfirmed town and a lot of pple are going to be playing to him which will scumhunting a bit more difficult for im. so wat does e need? support. so what are mario's strengths? I have noticed that he has good towndar so he is some1 that I will be paying attention to as far as his townreads go. I think his weakest area is that I don't think he is super confident. he is still relatively new and is still finding his voice in games. he is pretty smart and he is definitely some1 that I wld trust in games as far competency goes.

2)how many times have we seen the IC left alive or endgamed? lots, lately. so mario needs a friend, some1 he can lean on in case he is left alive, so who wld be a good friend for mario to have? some1 strong and well grounded which makes me think of froggy but froggy is indie and mario more than likely needs a town friend in order to stay the course and sort the game out. so who else is there? I think yakko wld make a good friend.

3)so the criteria for mario's town friend is:

1. strong and supportive
2. lend him some confidence so that he can feel really good with a shitty role
3. likely to be around for awhile (that leaves me out)
4. open to working with him and listening to him.
5. has a sense of humour and will make it fun for him

4)and I do this with every player in the game. game management is about seeing the entire game as a whole. the beginning, the middle, the end. who is likely to die early? who will be able to work together? who has strong endgame skills? who has strong beginning of the game skills? who is likely to get apathetic midgame and fizzle out? who is likely to be endgamed?

5)this is what I mean by playing the tape all the way through. you lose a lot of dynamics when you massclaim on d1 and while it wld be wonderful if I trusted every single town player in this game the truth is that I do not trust pple to not get derpy and lose the game. and I personally like winning.

1) i see what you mean.*

2) just cus hes an indie shouldnt mean he cant be his freind, after all if forgger take on a town role (and it gets revealed FYI) then he would make a good canadite no?

3) why does 3 leave you out?

4) i understand*

5) oh..... im sorry, no i get what you mean by that mollie.*

*i would like to talk to you more indeph on those postgameish cus its something that i /want/ to understand but me disagreeing(?) or askign for a certain /way/ about it here is jsut throy talk right now and is better served antoher time

[Professor Bozo]

I must ignore all of Hippy posts.
They just infuriate me.

that is cos you are reading my posts through a filter. stop that!

who do you think will be left alive the longest? not me. you? not if you are good at this game. ika? probably, cos he fizzles out early and becomes apathetic.

its players like dweele. assume he is town. do you trust him with a town wc after saying that aronis's readslist is a good post? cos I don't.

mebbe you are just more optimistic than I am.

Fire thinks single mindely about all the ideals he has, i am currently trying to work with him to get used to the site meta here. we had a dicussion already after one of his former mini thmee games finsihed. i think over time fire will come to terms with it but for now i think its like talking with a brick wall (no offence fire but sometime you need to take a stepc back and realize that some people will ahev diffrent ideals)

'morning all.

@Hippy,
It really doesn't matter if you think mass claim is a bad idea at this point. The majority of players have already claimed so by leaving one or two individuals with room to move around with their claim only benefits the mafia. You've already told us you're opposed to mass claims, fair enough, but I expect you to align your behaviour with what would benefit town circumstantially and not on what you believe on principle. In this instance, you not claiming is information that the mafia can obtain via PoE and information that the town will never know. So it's really in our best interests to make you talk at this point.

On another note, this game is becoming like kingsmaker, where one guy is determining the lynch. I strongly disapprove, as Mario doesn't appear to be making much effort to utilise the reads and information of others. Ideally buddy you should be asking the most questions out of everyone here.. You're going to be a liability if you lynch three townies in rapid fire and then we lose two in the night thanks to all these killing roles.

VOTE: Hippy Love

Stagin how someone should be playing is really really stupid FYI. i mean i disagree with mollie on it in priciaple but tellin someone is wrong on how to do it w/o reason or evidence is jsust strawman. i mean saying "oh everyones doing it" is like saying "well you should jump off the bridge cus everyone else is" will you do that?

I mean i am with the mass claim but i know mollies side as well and knwoing her thought better now speificly to this game makes me understand why she so against it

'morning all.

are even reading the game?

I claimed as much as is needed and I am telling you that either far or jeanne is lying and you come at me WITH THIS SHIT

@ jelly that is hippy's read I will let him answer it

You're clearly bringing your preconceptualised views on mass claiming into this game and letting it affect your behaviour. I don't recall any such claim from you that would lock you into a position, so you might as well not have claimed at all.

its not like we are doign the same thing?

Hippy love is asking you to show her what she isn't seeing/is missing.

And so am I.

My request should trump Hippy Love's, though, for one simple reason: there's more town in the game than scum; innocent until proven guilty applies. I say I don't see anything scum in Smithereen's posting;

that alone

would be enough. Given I see town in there, I stand by my statement.

uh no, that wrong. just stagin "oh i read someone town cus of their post" is very weak. i second mollie on this and tell me why its town. you trying to justify yourself like this is really sad and scummy

Is smithereens dumb telling right now?

not at all, I want Hippy to adjust their language to suit someone unfamiliar with his processes without compromising on how I want to scum hunt.

or you could leant to adapt tot he playstyle they play on? i think that would give you more skills in long run then narrowing how you play

[Professor Bozo]

I could continue on the rant of why claiming is good, but it will fall on deaf ears, just like hippy love argument of why not claiming is good will just give me headache of trying to understand how thats a good idea.

Just keeping vote where it is.

The refusal of the claim, it really has as they pointed out has come to policy lynch. Which I hate to say, but their stubbornness has met mine, and I will not back down.

fire if you wont listen to reason then whats the poitn of trying to explain it?

ugh.

fire.

you are not this bad. please. Fucking think. Youre so obviously town and yet you still arent thinking straight

he will be a stubbone mule hes like how i was who would not yeild, i think over time he will elarn

The refusal of the claim, it really has as they pointed out has come to policy lynch. Which I hate to say, but their stubbornness has met mine, and I will not back down.

That's just stupid. Demonstrate that:
>An explicit claim would be the most favourable outcome for us.
>A policy lynch would get us what we want
>your motivation to force a claim despite a power soft claim is pro-town.

isnt that the same logic you are using?

Ummm? This isn't who makes the best arguments which you would lose since you're not making any. Hippy love is asking you to show her what she isn't seeing/is missing. Asking why someone is scum after being asked why they are town is not productive if you simply plan to attack hippys arguments/thought process.

BoP is in the wrong position.

My post is meant to get ranger to talk. Sunce they have been holding their cards close to their chest from what I recall.

Fair enough.

Is that innocent until proven guilty approach? Why can't they have an equal burden? Of course how burden is measured is who has the most vs least brownie points imo. And a lot of peeps hace expressed interest in your lynch Smithereens.

It's extremely unproductive when BoP is given to whoever makes a claim. If I wanted to challenge someone's stance, it's much harder to do it if I have to produce reasons myself. Making others explain themselves and justify their assertion is as important as explaining your own points. I'm aware people think I'm a good lynch target. I disagree and I haven't really seen much reasoning behind those posts. Hence why it's best for me to call upon those throwing their votes around to expose their rationale.

so what happens when a persons rationel is super weak like guts or meta cus thats how I work very heavy. i mean ive played games where i got lynched of shit reason and was town, how do you quantify whats a "well this is town and this is scum"

[Professor Bozo]

VOTE: yrect

[Professor Bozo]

Obvious from the start when she didn't want to claim.

And I keep on thinking that Hippy Love is trying to softclaim a government role in spite of them rather specifically denying that.

VOTE: Dwlee.

they arent

i know what catagory they are claiming now after re isoing them

[Professor Bozo]

we still got neutral random
bg falls under killing/protect so unless we get another f,lip on one of the catagories im gonna slot it under protective

[Professor Bozo]

I'm a town citizen now.

i take it you were auditied?

[Professor Bozo]

Tax evasionnis a dangerous thing. Looking at jeanne and jellyrolls atm.

do you mind claiming your role then i know you claimed catagory. i see no reason to know role at this point.

[Professor Bozo]

mollllliiiiiieeeeeeee

[Professor Bozo]

acutaly dwlee should claim his role.

i jsut remmebered something i told netter after the first game was over about veterans

[Professor Bozo]

ya if mollies a Veteran you should of died

[Professor Bozo]

the only thing that could of saved you is doc and i didnt target you

[Professor Bozo]

thank you mollie!!!!!!

also dupe roles can aeixst if you are saying they cant {im not fully understanding im waking up so)

i also have a chart of the role lsit of catagories ppl claimed. everyone should claim roles at this point now so i cna hard slot people

[Professor Bozo]

well that and the overlaps

outside of random lsit there can be one more invest/protect as well as one killing/power

ill get my list ready

also dwlee what was you results

[Professor Bozo]

oh, i missed it

@farside i knew the lsit before the game began dont you even start with me

[Professor Bozo]

Town Government
Town Investigative
Town Protective

Town Investigative or Protective

Town Killing or Power
Town Killing or Power

Town Random
Town Random
Town Random

the bolded shows an overlap where another invest/protective can exist outside of the reuglar

the underlins shows 1-2 killing/power is existing

[Professor Bozo]

acutaly if we has a bus driver at this point there would of been feedback of it

[Professor Bozo]

ya give ma a min to make it nicer and readable

[Professor Bozo]

far did you claim your role yet?

[Professor Bozo]

one sec i need to find greater idea so i can get table fromat the copy past format currently is really crappy

pedit: can we do jeannie first?

[Professor Bozo]

ok

know what nvm its even more trouble and less sense

Town Government -- confirmed to be mario

Town Investigative [yakko]

Town Protective [idiot servant/firebringer]

Town Investigative or Protective - kraig fliped BG

Town Killing or Power [Jeanee11-Killing]
Town Killing or Power [Farisde22-Power]
Town Random Smitheerens/forjelly
Town Random

Town Random - crier zymf

Godfather
Mafia Support
Mafia Deception

Neutral Killing -anrios serial killer

Neutral Evil Yreckt cult

Neutral Benign Fro99er Amnesiac

Neutral Random - auditor ???

so bolded is confirmed fliped
underlined is confirmed existed

so im putting yakko under the invest cus he was auditied
cirier is confirmed role
so scum lies in the shriif dude (dont have him but hes there), smiterines/jelly, and far/jeanne

peditssss:

@far, yes i did

@molile, fire claimed to be a BG, i dont think we had any othre veteran claims?

[Professor Bozo]

i need to look back i feel like i skipped a page

[Professor Bozo]

ok now i see the veteran claims.

[Professor Bozo]

also there are 2 government role(s) claimed/confirmed

mario and ranger have both claimed government.

this might work

it was zermf who is confirmed gov right now with mario?

i mean if ranger is also gov he needs to claim now cus if hes ML he can test yakko and we cna pile dirve scums into a corner

pedit i realized that now give me a sec to fix it

[Professor Bozo]

ok

know what nvm its even more trouble and less sense

Town Government -- confirmed to be mario

Town Investigative [yakko]

Town Protective [idiot servant/firebringer]

Town Investigative or Protective - kraig fliped BG

Town Killing or Power [Jeanee11-Killing]
Town Killing or Power [Farisde22-Power]
Town Random Smitheerens/forjelly
Town Random ranger/mollie

Town Random - crier zymf

Godfather
Mafia Support
Mafia Deception

Neutral Killing -anrios serial killer

Neutral Evil Yreckt cult

Neutral Benign Fro99er Amnesiac

Neutral Random - auditor ???

so bolded is confirmed fliped
underlined is confirmed existed

so im putting yakko under the invest cus he was auditied
cirier is confirmed role
so scum lies in the shriif dude (dont have him but hes there), smiterines/jelly, and far/jeanne

fixed. the only reason i have jsut put it right there for now is bunching you all is mroe confusion. when role sart getting sorted we can move people aorund

[Professor Bozo]

far cant jail on a lycnh day

[Professor Bozo]

Having to even think of no lynching makes me go wft.....seriously?

the reason why jailors can jail on only lynch is cus of how powerful it is and how the normal game is setup

nomally games are like 3 mins day and 2 mins night with 14 other troll players yelling a bunch of shit

most times day 1 would be a no-lynhc day (ie you cant lynch) giving jailor opertunity. sometimes ppl would not reach a lynch decision and day would run out, here on fourm it gets rid of that problem

pedit: ya its ont gonna happen on marshal reveal

[Professor Bozo]

Ill juat sit here and continue to shout that if there was one it should of left feedback for you mollie

[Professor Bozo]

Ill juat sit here and continue to shout that if there was one it should of left feedback for you mollie

then why are you not voting dwlee

cus shinty hammers

i thought i was

VOTE: dwlee

[Professor Bozo]

doctor

[Professor Bozo]

the fun thing now is that if we can peg off the autirot we can go into a near autowin situation with em and fire

i continue to heal him he continues to bg me and its a heal chain cycle that cant be broken

[Professor Bozo]

the fun thing wld be is to knock off the numbers discrepancies cos THERE ARE ONLY 3 RANDOM ROLES AND SO FAR THERE ARE LIKE 5 PPLE CLAIMING DUPLICATES WITH OPPOSING FLIPPED ROLES HEY LETS LOOK AT THIS!

mollie, arent we doing that now with dwlees flip?

or am i going derp again

[Professor Bozo]

I looked back and apparently firebringer and savant are the only claimed protective roles.
Jeanne was the other person it could have been.
Dwlee said nothing about not getting results.

Vote: dwlee

JEANNE CLAIMED TOWN KILLING NOT PROTECTIVE

ALSO DWLEE SAID THAT HE VIEWED US AND GOT NOT SUSPICIOUS.

mollie... deep breath

[Professor Bozo]

UNVOTE:

mollie who do you want to lynch. it my head i had it you want to lynch dwlee but now it sounds like you dont?

pedit: mollie thats not my intention, im just trying to help.

[Professor Bozo]

you know that i would never come down condescending to you.

[Professor Bozo]

im waiting on mollie. before i put my vote back

[Professor Bozo]

Cool meme

your not helping me with mollie. i want her to calm down we can work together

[Professor Bozo]

ranger are you claiming bus driver?

[Professor Bozo]

cus if not im gonna 100% call bullshit right now

mollie theres two killing/power slots

[Professor Bozo]

unless if your just filling basic, in that case my bad on misreading it

[Professor Bozo]

zymf is confiremd crier though ranger, unless if your going to make a nargument that wako is scum who is faking an autior right now

pedit: read above, the only way for jester ot be existant is wako claiming to not be autidied

[Professor Bozo]

ok let me try again cus i know it is give ma a min i will try to lay it out in sensable terms

[Professor Bozo]

yakko claimed to be turned into a citizen, the only way for that to happen is for an auditor to exist
Auditor is neutral evil
recks slot already occupies the netural evil slot (cult)
so for a jester to be an applicable role in the game

yakko must be lying about being autited

[Professor Bozo]

that would also imply a scum!yakko world that i dont even see at this point.

makes more sense?

[Professor Bozo]

i think ranger is jsut lying right now

for this to be true the follwoing must be true
A) we have a bus driver (hint its not goverment role so it cant be ranger)
B) the scums tried to kill ranger

i think both are false right now

pedit: rangers a she, but i think shes jsut scum caught right now so she trying a jester ploy to see how much she can do. if we really want to think its jester we could no lynch and you execute it

[Professor Bozo]

acutaly if we has a bus driver at this point there would of been feedback of it

Wait for every player to check in before making that claim next time.

I have a night action. I used it on Fro99er. The mod told me my target was Ranger. Thus, I was busdriven with Fro99er; scum tried to kill me.

i never claimed to be bus driven if thats what your saying, im jsut stating that bus driver will give feedback.

what is your role cus i mean your narrowed town to ML at this point

[Professor Bozo]

mafia has no role that can talk at night like a crier the only mimic of it is juudge if you want to be more spcific on the role your speaking of show me and i will gladly show you how its wrong

[Professor Bozo]

ty far

but jsut for emapthis

Mason recruitment: Every night you can PM me the name of another player to attempt to recruit him into Town Mason. The recruitment will only succeed if the target player is a Town Citizen

pedit: i need to go away atm due to this

jsut.....

i dunno this really stuck me

[Professor Bozo]

the feedback should be "you failed to recurit your target" or "you successfully recruited XXX"

[Professor Bozo]

Did you ask the mod?
Because I know my result.

It said I failed to recruit me into the masonry.

That's what it said.

and i know the standard feedback for a mason leader. nether might of diviated a bit but thats the nomal feeback

[Professor Bozo]

The drive to lynch me is incredibly scum-driven, since the scum

know

I'm telling the truth. They want to make up their missed kill by lynching me, before I can become confirmed town and also before my reads are proven to be valid.

why wld you try to mason an indie over a conftown who was likely to be protected with at least mebbe 1 conftown in play?

I think you are just scum.

mollie mason leader cna only get citizens

[Professor Bozo]

Spoiler: pickup

My god when I'm done eating I'm setting all this shit straigh and picking this up

ok you are all going fucking derps. sorry but not sorry but ITS A FUCLING MASON LEAER ITS SELF RESLOVING

[Professor Bozo]

ok yakko is to vest tonight. ranger is to tatget yakko.

yakko wont be able t die at night, ranger won be able to die at night either due to me/fire existing

the convert will go though

[Professor Bozo]

even if yakko does not vest he will lose it if he gets converted so he should do it tonight

[Professor Bozo]

VOTE: dwlee

[Professor Bozo]

scums are gonna lose cus theres too many role to be confirmed now

[Professor Bozo]

ok yakko is to vest tonight. ranger is to tatget yakko.

yakko wont be able t die at night, ranger won be able to die at night either due to me/fire existing

the convert will go though

even if yakko does not vest he will lose it if he gets converted so he should do it tonight

I don't even understand this stuff.

yakko claimed lookout but is now vanilla-ized, how is he going to be converted if the cult leader already flipped on d1.

I feel like I am going crazy in this game. its like pple are doing the scummiest shit possible

give me a min and i will retry to explain i rushed what i was saying

Savant shouldannounce who he is gonna be on so no one can say oops we were on the same person.

we should both be on ranger

@Hippy Wtf!? I did target you, I saw exactly nobody visit you, which is why I know Dwlee is lying when he said he investigated you.

so you claiming lookout? good to know

[Professor Bozo]

ok yakko is to vest tonight. ranger is to tatget yakko.

yakko wont be able t die at night, ranger won be able to die at night either due to me/fire existing

the convert will go though

even if yakko does not vest he will lose it if he gets converted so he should do it tonight

I don't even understand this stuff.

yakko claimed lookout but is now vanilla-ized, how is he going to be converted if the cult leader already flipped on d1.

I feel like I am going crazy in this game. its like pple are doing the scummiest shit possible

give me a min and i will retry to explain i rushed what i was saying

Savant shouldannounce who he is gonna be on so no one can say oops we were on the same person.

we should both be on ranger

@Hippy Wtf!? I did target you, I saw exactly nobody visit you, which is why I know Dwlee is lying when he said he investigated you.

so you claiming lookout? good to know

[Professor Bozo]

for mollie:

Ranger is claiming to be a mason leader
mason leader can convert citizens (yakko) into masons

the plan is for ranger to target yakko
yakko will vest tonight making him immune to nks
fber/me will be on ranger to ensure he doesn't die

tommorw we go in with yakko confirming rangers claim.

does that make more sense

[Professor Bozo]

ika and fire, I wld like to hear how you have poed things out wrt massclaim since you both thought it was a fantastic idea, I wld like to know what info you gleaned from it.

cos neither of you are telling.

its super long so im spoilering it

Spoiler: answer

The basic of the mass claim in this stup is to corner scums into a deadlock where the role can not exist, taking the list given us and filling in blanks of what is known

Town Government - mario (day 1 revealed)
Town Investigative - yakko (auditied into cit and became mason)
Town Killing or Power - farside jailor
Town Random - zymf (can not be judge boh slots are taken)
Town Random - ranger (mason leader tied to yakko)
Neutral Killing - anrois (sk flpied day 1)
Neutral Evil - Yreckt (cult fliped day 1)
Neutral Benign - Fro99er (Amnesiac fliped night 1)
Neutral Random - dwlee (autitor flipped day 2)

we are left with this:
Town Protective
Town Investigative or Protective
Town Killing or Power
Town Random
Godfather
Mafia Support
Mafia Deception

now krig flipped bg but he double overs as protect/killing so its unknown where it falls 100%
fire calims to be other BG while i am doc
jelly and smiterines calimed to be investigatives
jeanne claimed to be killing IIRC and you are claimed vet

so from there is jsut what cant exist right now. here it jsut becomes a matter of jsut figuring out who doesnt fit in the criteria and whats excessive

so we got 3 (techancly 4 with kragi flip) possible killings (you/fire/jeanne) to fit in
2 investigative to fit in (jelly/smiterines)
and 1 prtoective (technacly it can be 3 with bg/bg/doc)

so right now its best to sort out whos the killer thats lying and when they flip we plug them in with the scum slot they are with. the more flips there are the narrower the pool gets

i hope i made sense? if not i can try to explain again better but its something that you jsut get with experince

and thats what i get for reading up right as i get home from work

[Professor Bozo]

thats should be hammer actualy it missing my vote

pedit: well now its over it

[Professor Bozo]

oh now i see why nvm

pedit: why would i ahte you mollie?

[Professor Bozo]

VOTE: jeanne11

going to head into work so placing this now bbl

it was acidently out of hydra as i was rushing off to work

VOTE: jeanne

so it should register now

[Professor Bozo]

VOTE: idiot servant

its over

[Professor Bozo]

im on it