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Klingoncelt
Klingoncelt
Jack of All Trades
Klingoncelt
Jack of All Trades
Jack of All Trades
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Post #49 (isolation #0) » Wed Nov 04, 2015 1:31 pm
Postby Klingoncelt »
VOTE: No Lynch
Klingoncelt: "The whole scumteam slipped on page 1. It's the new meta. Sheep me because my reads are so accurate that whoever I name gets mod-converted to scum."
Now that's an interesting vote to just drop in with. Wanna talk about it?
VOTE: A Royal Saint VOTE: Davesaz VOTE: Davsto VOTE: Expedience VOTE: Gameplay506 VOTE: Hiplop VOTE: Klingoncelt VOTE: Makato Nayaya VOTE: Pisskop VOTE: Ranger VOTE: Scorpious VOTE: The Jester VOTE: The Silver Bard
UNVOTE:
Klingoncelt: "The whole scumteam slipped on page 1. It's the new meta. Sheep me because my reads are so accurate that whoever I name gets mod-converted to scum."
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Post #60 (isolation #2) » Wed Nov 04, 2015 2:36 pm
Postby Klingoncelt »
UNVOTE:
Klingoncelt: "The whole scumteam slipped on page 1. It's the new meta. Sheep me because my reads are so accurate that whoever I name gets mod-converted to scum."
Vote that person as many times as the post in the ISO you think explains it. If you disagree with the idea just Unvote.
Feel free to Unvote afterward if wanted/needed.
If more than one post Unvote between the groups please.
VOTE: Gameplay506
Klingoncelt: "The whole scumteam slipped on page 1. It's the new meta. Sheep me because my reads are so accurate that whoever I name gets mod-converted to scum."
Klingoncelt: "The whole scumteam slipped on page 1. It's the new meta. Sheep me because my reads are so accurate that whoever I name gets mod-converted to scum."
Now that's an interesting vote to just drop in with. Wanna talk about it?
VOTE: A Royal Saint VOTE: Davesaz VOTE: Davsto VOTE: Expedience VOTE: Gameplay506 VOTE: Hiplop VOTE: Klingoncelt VOTE: Makato Nayaya VOTE: Pisskop VOTE: Ranger VOTE: Scorpious VOTE: The Jester VOTE: The Silver Bard
UNVOTE:
Can you order this post in the way you want and then UNVOTE: and revote for the scummiest?
Vote for the towniest first and the scummiest last? Will that work?
For the record...Titus is ebil obv scum mod. This is hard.
VOTE: Titus
VOTE: Gameplay506
Klingoncelt: "The whole scumteam slipped on page 1. It's the new meta. Sheep me because my reads are so accurate that whoever I name gets mod-converted to scum."
VOTE: gameplay506
Plenty going on and avoiding it is just wrong, especially with short days.
VOTE: gameplay506
Klingoncelt: "The whole scumteam slipped on page 1. It's the new meta. Sheep me because my reads are so accurate that whoever I name gets mod-converted to scum."
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Post #143 (isolation #7) » Thu Nov 05, 2015 4:25 pm
Postby Klingoncelt »
In post 136, pisskop wrote:Real tempted to PL Klingy. Because I think PLs are great and Im a great person.
VOTE: pisskop
Klingoncelt: "The whole scumteam slipped on page 1. It's the new meta. Sheep me because my reads are so accurate that whoever I name gets mod-converted to scum."
@Klingon,is the quote the only reason you are voting gp?
VOTE: Gameplay506
Klingoncelt: "The whole scumteam slipped on page 1. It's the new meta. Sheep me because my reads are so accurate that whoever I name gets mod-converted to scum."
Klingoncelt: "The whole scumteam slipped on page 1. It's the new meta. Sheep me because my reads are so accurate that whoever I name gets mod-converted to scum."
@Klingon,is the quote the only reason you are voting gp?
Anyone else who you think is scummy? And why?
VOTE: Expedience
Klingoncelt: "The whole scumteam slipped on page 1. It's the new meta. Sheep me because my reads are so accurate that whoever I name gets mod-converted to scum."
Klingoncelt: "The whole scumteam slipped on page 1. It's the new meta. Sheep me because my reads are so accurate that whoever I name gets mod-converted to scum."
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Post #240 (isolation #12) » Fri Nov 06, 2015 4:02 pm
Postby Klingoncelt »
VOTE: Expedience
Klingoncelt: "The whole scumteam slipped on page 1. It's the new meta. Sheep me because my reads are so accurate that whoever I name gets mod-converted to scum."
Klingoncelt: "The whole scumteam slipped on page 1. It's the new meta. Sheep me because my reads are so accurate that whoever I name gets mod-converted to scum."
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Post #242 (isolation #14) » Fri Nov 06, 2015 4:05 pm
Postby Klingoncelt »
VOTE: Gameplay506 VOTE: Hiplop VOTE: Expedience
Klingoncelt: "The whole scumteam slipped on page 1. It's the new meta. Sheep me because my reads are so accurate that whoever I name gets mod-converted to scum."
In post 147, Expedience wrote:Davsto, is changing a vote off a stronger scumread and onto a lesser scumread really that bad considering the setup and time constraints? It's sometimes necessary to compromise.
Not on the first day of a three day limit.
If you think Ranger is scum, do you think her breaking the rules and saying her secondary wincon on the first page was fake?
Well I certainly think reading him as town for it is a bad idea. I find that town would probably want to keep it secret even if they didn't know that you weren't allowed to say it to avoid policy lynches on them for having some terrible one, whereas scum would totally try to fake one for towncred.
I'm questioning you because that alone makes me ~90% sure Ranger is town. I think that if scum!Ranger was trying to fake a post restriction, they would've understood that scum don't have secondary wincons, and deduced such a rule would probably exist to prevent a potentially gamebreaking massclaim d1. Or at least, they would've worried that they could be outed by the fact that they didn't have a secondary wincon to claim easily, and possibly asked / tried to investigate how to stop this. Also I think that Ranger deliberately breaking the rules to appear town is a very unlikely scenario.
What do you think of Klingon's implied post restriction?
Rule against saying post restrictions publicly to prevent the game from being broken, suddenly here is Klingon with extremely obvious post restriction. If we assumed it was not faked, then it would be partially gamebreaking in that it would all but confirm Klingon as town. Or, at least, that's why we can't just massclaim secondary wincons d1. The entire point behind them is that they are meant to be subtle. Essentially, this would not be added to the game because the very act of following the post restriction constitutes heavily hinting at it, which is against the rules.
If you look up the game itself that this game is based on, it's meant to be like that too, with the secondary wincons not immediately obvious but subtly influencing how players act.
So why is it supposedly this obvious if it's "secret"?
I think Klingon just chose a fake one that wasn't on the list at the start of the game, and one that would "confirm" her as town to everyone else.
Also she is pushing a lurker and apparently has no other scumreads.
Worst case scenario: we mislynch what is effectively a vote.
I don't think a lynch on Klingoncelt is the way to go today.
As I have mentioned previously I think scum could easily make up this kind of postrestriction, so it isn't proof that she is town.
But it is basicly a policylynch, and a policylynch that we won't gain much information from if she is town. It is easy for scum to jump on this wagon, as she cannot defend herself.
If we don't agree on a lynch on either Saint or Ranger though, I will consolidate on Klingoncelt, as she will be an uncertainty throughout the game.
It's not really a policy lynch from my perspective, I think Klingon is scum faking a post restriction. If you want to view it as a policy lynch because there is a lower risk associated with it you're welcome to do that, but there is evidence to suggest that Klingon is scum.
Show me the rule. It refers to secondary wincons, not post restrictions.
In fact, under the rules, a post restriction
can't
be a wincon because the act of following the restriction would break the rules, but not following it would also break the rules.(For not playing to your wincon)
It's a paradox that is only broken by makeing a PR a role, not a secondary wincon.
Yeah, you have a point to some extent, but I don't think that Klingon would have both a post restriction and then another secondary wincon because that would just be redundant. How you're saying a post restriction can't be a secondary wincon is precisely why I think that it's being faked.
I find that method of thinking in this instance is just lazy..
I think Celt is faking. I don't think that she genuinely has that post restriction, because of how I think the setup was designed. What do you mean by lazy, and what makes lazy thinking bad in this instance?
In post 236, A Royal Saint wrote:I think this discussion of KlingonCelt is dumb for a few reasons:
1) It pretty much says to mods to never put in a post restriction because that person will be policy lynched. This game is meant for fun. If the restriction is true then you are judging Klingon Celt not for play but for a post restriction.
2) if Klingon Celt is faking and being scum then that would pretty much ruin me playing with them because I value letting people have fun over winning. Since in the games I have played with Klingon Celt they have common respect for the game I doubt this is it. Call it gut if you want but I doubt they are faking.
3) Setup spec which is what is going on stops scum hunting. For the love of God hunt scum. We have less than 24 hours and this is filler bullshit.
So therefore out of respect of letting a player play the fucking game I will not join on this.
I hear what you are saying here. I think we have different priorities and I am taking a more cynical stance. While I don't trust the post restriction and this is to me the safest lynch, I'll unvote for now because I think we should be able to find scum without lynching Klingon and fulfill both our priorities.
UNVOTE: Klingoncelt
In post 251, Expedience wrote:Either of Davsto / davesaz are my top suspects atm I think.
Davesaz for reasons I said earlier and gut as well, in recent posts he is asking really pointed almost loaded questions and it reminds me of what I saw about his scum meta.
Davsto I have played with a game before and he did not seem this disengaged. His posts feel a little off and he doesn't seem cheery enough.
This feels right. I always keep being overconfident and then backing down later but I just want to stick with this.
Klingoncelt: "The whole scumteam slipped on page 1. It's the new meta. Sheep me because my reads are so accurate that whoever I name gets mod-converted to scum."
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Post #257 (isolation #16) » Fri Nov 06, 2015 5:36 pm
Postby Klingoncelt »
VOTE: Expedience
Klingoncelt: "The whole scumteam slipped on page 1. It's the new meta. Sheep me because my reads are so accurate that whoever I name gets mod-converted to scum."
Klingoncelt: "The whole scumteam slipped on page 1. It's the new meta. Sheep me because my reads are so accurate that whoever I name gets mod-converted to scum."
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Post #341 (isolation #18) » Sun Nov 08, 2015 3:55 pm
Postby Klingoncelt »
@Titus - Is there a wiki link for this game?
I just finished a game on Ika's site. Big mistake, they have a huge variety of crazy roles over there. Now I have a bunch of crazy possibilities dancing through my head: Judas, Saulus, unlynchable (but still Night-killable!,) saved by a judge, revived, ...
Oh, the post restriction was quite real. Sucked completely.
Klingoncelt: "The whole scumteam slipped on page 1. It's the new meta. Sheep me because my reads are so accurate that whoever I name gets mod-converted to scum."
I just finished a game on Ika's site. Big mistake, they have a huge variety of crazy roles over there. Now I have a bunch of crazy possibilities dancing through my head: Judas, Saulus, unlynchable (but still Night-killable!,) saved by a judge, revived, ...
Oh, the post restriction was quite real. Sucked completely.
Now that you can speak what are your thoughts about the game and its players? Could you do a readwall of sorts?
Right at this moment I can't do a readslist, but I can do one over the next several hours.
I looked through the Wiki Normal roles, Gameplay506 could be Deathproof, Lynchproof, Judas, Saulus, or helped by a Reviver or Unlyncher.
Other thoughts will come as I write the readslist.
Klingoncelt: "The whole scumteam slipped on page 1. It's the new meta. Sheep me because my reads are so accurate that whoever I name gets mod-converted to scum."
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Post #352 (isolation #20) » Sun Nov 08, 2015 4:48 pm
Postby Klingoncelt »
For now:
VOTE: Ranger
whose reads list leaves much to be desired.
Klingoncelt: "The whole scumteam slipped on page 1. It's the new meta. Sheep me because my reads are so accurate that whoever I name gets mod-converted to scum."
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Post #382 (isolation #21) » Sun Nov 08, 2015 11:34 pm
Postby Klingoncelt »
UNVOTE:
VOTE: Hiplop
Fake restriction policy lynch, my ass.
Klingoncelt: "The whole scumteam slipped on page 1. It's the new meta. Sheep me because my reads are so accurate that whoever I name gets mod-converted to scum."
seemed fake to me. was it just for one day you had to do that?
Link to a game where post restrictions were faked.
Klingoncelt: "The whole scumteam slipped on page 1. It's the new meta. Sheep me because my reads are so accurate that whoever I name gets mod-converted to scum."
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Post #453 (isolation #23) » Mon Nov 09, 2015 5:59 pm
Postby Klingoncelt »
@Pisskop - who were you imitating yesterday, and was that a post restriction too?
Klingoncelt: "The whole scumteam slipped on page 1. It's the new meta. Sheep me because my reads are so accurate that whoever I name gets mod-converted to scum."
So far only you and Klingon seem to have post restrictions. Are you saying she was faking?
Haven't translated your biggest post yet working on it . Major PC issues so doing it by hand.
Look at Pisskop's posts yesterday. He was impersonating someone awesome.
Klingoncelt: "The whole scumteam slipped on page 1. It's the new meta. Sheep me because my reads are so accurate that whoever I name gets mod-converted to scum."
@Titus - If an Investigative is roleblocked they will get a "No Result." If their target takes/receives no action, does the Investigative still get "No Result," or do they get "Your Target went nowhere"/"Nobody visited your Target"?
Klingoncelt: "The whole scumteam slipped on page 1. It's the new meta. Sheep me because my reads are so accurate that whoever I name gets mod-converted to scum."
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Post #462 (isolation #26) » Mon Nov 09, 2015 6:46 pm
Postby Klingoncelt »
In post 460, A Royal Saint wrote:@KlingonCelt -- The first few remind me of Titus a bit. Am I supposed to get that feeling? Not really seeing a post restriction just looks more like a comedic impression of Titus.
I'm waiting on PK to explain it. I've never seen him do anything like that before, so I think it's a post restriction.
Klingoncelt: "The whole scumteam slipped on page 1. It's the new meta. Sheep me because my reads are so accurate that whoever I name gets mod-converted to scum."
Klingoncelt: "The whole scumteam slipped on page 1. It's the new meta. Sheep me because my reads are so accurate that whoever I name gets mod-converted to scum."
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Post #468 (isolation #28) » Mon Nov 09, 2015 7:08 pm
Postby Klingoncelt »
Thanks, Titus, your answer is clear.
Klingoncelt: "The whole scumteam slipped on page 1. It's the new meta. Sheep me because my reads are so accurate that whoever I name gets mod-converted to scum."
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Post #476 (isolation #29) » Mon Nov 09, 2015 9:27 pm
Postby Klingoncelt »
A Royal Saint - Town - is scumhunting and being sensible.
Davesaz - Happy Birthday! - Town - is scumhunting and being sensible.
Firebringer/(Gameplay506) - Gameplay was useless and deserved the lynch, too bad he was unlynchable. Firebringer's better, but that vote restriction is as much a pain in the ass as mine. I'm going to give him a Lean Town
Makato Nayaya - Nice altslip. Into the game and seems to be enjoying it. Reads are reasonable. Lean Town
Scorpious - Seems okay. Lean Town
Davsto - Call it gut, but I'm not getting a strong Town vibe. Null.
Ranger - Null
The Silver Bard - Lean Town
Pisskop - FAKED his post restriction. Wants to PL me. Lots of fluff in his posts. Lean Scum
The Jester - Reads are about opposite of mine. Lean Scum
Expedience - The pushes seem contrived. Says my post restriction is fake. Votes for me, tries to get others to. Scum.
Hiplop - Declares Expedience to be Town. Says my post restriction is fake. Rest of his posts are short & crappy.
Way Scum.
Klingoncelt: "The whole scumteam slipped on page 1. It's the new meta. Sheep me because my reads are so accurate that whoever I name gets mod-converted to scum."
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Post #477 (isolation #30) » Mon Nov 09, 2015 9:28 pm
Postby Klingoncelt »
I'm calling Expedience & Hiplop as the Scumteam.
Klingoncelt: "The whole scumteam slipped on page 1. It's the new meta. Sheep me because my reads are so accurate that whoever I name gets mod-converted to scum."
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Post #550 (isolation #31) » Tue Nov 10, 2015 4:14 pm
Postby Klingoncelt »
In post 495, pisskop wrote:I don't know. Been wondering why Klingy is trying to incriminate people.
Where am I trying to incriminate people?
Either they did something scummy or they didn't.
Klingoncelt: "The whole scumteam slipped on page 1. It's the new meta. Sheep me because my reads are so accurate that whoever I name gets mod-converted to scum."
Klingoncelt: "The whole scumteam slipped on page 1. It's the new meta. Sheep me because my reads are so accurate that whoever I name gets mod-converted to scum."
In post 476, Klingoncelt wrote:Expedience - The pushes seem contrived. Says my post restriction is fake. Votes for me, tries to get others to. Scum.
What pushes (other than on you)? I will say that I no longer consider your post restriction fake and I consider you town, I accept that my pushing you for supposedly having a fake post restriction was poor.
Hiplop - Declares Expedience to be Town. Says my post restriction is fake. Rest of his posts are short & crappy.
Way Scum.
ARS and TSB also think I'm town, why does hiplop townreading me in particular bother you?
Well, there was the weird arguing over the value of RVS with Silver Bard, the Davesaz pressure... it seems too scripted. Then the push over my allegedly fake restriction, then back to Davesaz, and on to Gameplay.
Hiplop's read bothers me because I'm sure he's Scum.
Klingoncelt: "The whole scumteam slipped on page 1. It's the new meta. Sheep me because my reads are so accurate that whoever I name gets mod-converted to scum."
Davsto - Call it gut, but I'm not getting a strong Town vibe. Null.
Pisskop - FAKED his post restriction. Wants to PL me. Lots of fluff in his posts. Lean Scum
The Jester - Reads are about opposite of mine. Lean Scum
lets start with that push.
im leaving davsto in because how 'strong town' becomes 'null'.
im leaving jester in as an example of bias.
Now.
You state I want to pl you. get that data?
you state I FAKED. where are you followup questions that indicate sorting?
Are you trolling?
Klingoncelt: "The whole scumteam slipped on page 1. It's the new meta. Sheep me because my reads are so accurate that whoever I name gets mod-converted to scum."
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Post #561 (isolation #35) » Tue Nov 10, 2015 4:51 pm
Postby Klingoncelt »
Wow.
I'll reply in 20-25 minutes, watching the plane crash thing on tv right now.
You aren't acting like yourself...
Klingoncelt: "The whole scumteam slipped on page 1. It's the new meta. Sheep me because my reads are so accurate that whoever I name gets mod-converted to scum."
I'll reply in 20-25 minutes, watching the plane crash thing on tv right now.
You aren't acting like yourself...
^ ^ ^ Meant for Pisskop.
Klingoncelt: "The whole scumteam slipped on page 1. It's the new meta. Sheep me because my reads are so accurate that whoever I name gets mod-converted to scum."
Davsto - Call it gut, but I'm not getting a strong Town vibe. Null.
Pisskop - FAKED his post restriction. Wants to PL me. Lots of fluff in his posts. Lean Scum
The Jester - Reads are about opposite of mine. Lean Scum
lets start with that push.
im leaving davsto in because how 'strong town' becomes 'null'.
im leaving jester in as an example of bias.
Now.
You state I want to pl you. get that data?
you state I FAKED. where are you followup questions that indicate sorting?
"Strong Town" did not become Null. To put it another way, Call it gut, but I'm not getting much of a Town vibe. Null.
Bias? I'm fairly confident in my reads. I'm not surprised or upset if others don't have identical reads, but when someone's reads are soooo different from mine, I can't see them as Town. More like common sense. Reads will change as the game progresses, maybe he'll move to Null, or even Town.
Why is this a problem for you?
"You state I want to pl you. get that data?"
Post 136: "Real tempted to PL Klingy. Because I think PLs are great and Im a great person."
not at the moment. youre asking either me to claim or out a pr.
My post restriction was faked, but I have one. A serious one
"you state I FAKED. where are you followup questions that indicate sorting?"
You cut all questioning off by saying you'd out a PR.
Klingoncelt: "The whole scumteam slipped on page 1. It's the new meta. Sheep me because my reads are so accurate that whoever I name gets mod-converted to scum."
do you really think i am capable of having strong, unmovable reads at post 124?
You? Yes.
Klingoncelt: "The whole scumteam slipped on page 1. It's the new meta. Sheep me because my reads are so accurate that whoever I name gets mod-converted to scum."
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Post #573 (isolation #39) » Tue Nov 10, 2015 7:53 pm
Postby Klingoncelt »
In post 565, pisskop wrote:Youre still not exlaining why a strong town vibe is a nullread.
What have I said about you and policy lynching since post 137?
did I cut off conversation? how is you asking about my Private Toic related to my Post Restriction again?
I'm very tired and you're trolling.
I never said a strong townread is null. I did say that a NOT strong townread is null.
Too tired to ISO, we'll be in Night when I wake up. Find what you're looking for yourself, please.
Yes, you cut off conversation. You said you'd out a PR.
Klingoncelt: "The whole scumteam slipped on page 1. It's the new meta. Sheep me because my reads are so accurate that whoever I name gets mod-converted to scum."
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Post #656 (isolation #40) » Thu Nov 12, 2015 3:33 pm
Postby Klingoncelt »
*sniffs*
Do I smell bullshit?
Klingoncelt: "The whole scumteam slipped on page 1. It's the new meta. Sheep me because my reads are so accurate that whoever I name gets mod-converted to scum."
It also means that the people who thought Expedience was the vig kill, Firebringer and Davsto, are both town.
How does thinking (or saying that they thought) that Expedience was the vig kill prove someone as Town? Couldn't Scum say that to try and look Townish?
Klingoncelt: "The whole scumteam slipped on page 1. It's the new meta. Sheep me because my reads are so accurate that whoever I name gets mod-converted to scum."
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Post #779 (isolation #42) » Sun Nov 15, 2015 2:57 am
Postby Klingoncelt »
Should I claim?
Klingoncelt: "The whole scumteam slipped on page 1. It's the new meta. Sheep me because my reads are so accurate that whoever I name gets mod-converted to scum."
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Post #780 (isolation #43) » Sun Nov 15, 2015 3:01 am
Postby Klingoncelt »
I'm a Mall Santa, the equivalent of a Vanilla Townie. My Win Condition was the speak-with-votes-only post restriction that I had to use before I die/get NK'd/endgame.
And now I have a gun.
I might aim it at Pisskop, I haven't liked his play at all this game.
Did Silver Bard claim? *tosses popcorn*
Klingoncelt: "The whole scumteam slipped on page 1. It's the new meta. Sheep me because my reads are so accurate that whoever I name gets mod-converted to scum."
The_Jester claims to be a cop, who have checked pisskop and got a guilty on him. This would normally mean we lynch pisskop if we believe The_Jester or we lynch The_Jester if we believe that he is lying. But here is my plan:
You guys lynch me today.
Then pisskop kills Kling.
Kling kills The_Jester.
I don't think there is a theoretical way scum can escape if we do it like this. If there is a hole in my logic here please let me know, cause I think this will win us the game.
Why do we lynch you? Are you Judas?
Klingoncelt: "The whole scumteam slipped on page 1. It's the new meta. Sheep me because my reads are so accurate that whoever I name gets mod-converted to scum."
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Post #782 (isolation #45) » Sun Nov 15, 2015 3:04 am
Postby Klingoncelt »
I want to lynch Pisskop and, if needed, shoot Jester.
Klingoncelt: "The whole scumteam slipped on page 1. It's the new meta. Sheep me because my reads are so accurate that whoever I name gets mod-converted to scum."
Klingoncelt: "The whole scumteam slipped on page 1. It's the new meta. Sheep me because my reads are so accurate that whoever I name gets mod-converted to scum."
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Post #786 (isolation #47) » Sun Nov 15, 2015 4:06 am
Postby Klingoncelt »
Not really, no.
Klingoncelt: "The whole scumteam slipped on page 1. It's the new meta. Sheep me because my reads are so accurate that whoever I name gets mod-converted to scum."
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Post #788 (isolation #48) » Sun Nov 15, 2015 4:15 am
Postby Klingoncelt »
He said he lied about having a post restriction on Day 1, was behaving strangely on Day2, and now you have a guilty on him.
Doesn't exactly scream Town.
Klingoncelt: "The whole scumteam slipped on page 1. It's the new meta. Sheep me because my reads are so accurate that whoever I name gets mod-converted to scum."
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Post #931 (isolation #49) » Wed Nov 18, 2015 6:32 am
Postby Klingoncelt »
Good Game, everyone.
Sorry I was a dumbass and outed my secondary win condition, total brainfart there.
Titus, thanks for hosting, I'd like to /pre-in for any more Blitz games you run!
Klingoncelt: "The whole scumteam slipped on page 1. It's the new meta. Sheep me because my reads are so accurate that whoever I name gets mod-converted to scum."