Blitz 8: U-Pick Villians - game over

[Gorkington]

Hi pisskop

vote: yakko

[Gorkington]

i am intentionally ignoring fb and persivul.
care to join me?

[Gorkington]

what if.
instead of doing whatever this is.
you did something else.

[Gorkington]

man im so brilliant.
with my brilliant ideas.

[Gorkington]

nah lets not.
you should vote for yakko.
and be useful.

[Gorkington]

you should omgus me.
you coward.

and i am a mystery wrapped in an enigma.

[Gorkington]

No.

youre boring.

[Gorkington]

okay
-gork

[Gorkington]

what if we voted yakko?
-gork

[Gorkington]

why is this a thing.
lol.
persivul do you really think if firebringer is town or scum youre going to be able to sort him via this strategy?
if hes scum, he can just lurk under the excuse of being offended or fake content via dumb argument with you.
if hes town hes going to be demotivated by you calling him shit.
stop.
vote yakko pls.

fire.
youre voting persivul for dumb reasons.
vote yakko pls.

Do not do that Yakko is clearly town.

Hydra huh. Mind giving me your heads?

no hes not.
-gork

[Gorkington]

im gonna shoot air in your head.
pewpewpew.

[Gorkington]

im not a subtle guy.
youre also still scum.

[Gorkington]

dont you ignore me persivul.

[Gorkington]

i agree.
why arent you voting someone.

[Gorkington]

that doesnt answer why youre not voting someone.

[Gorkington]

i dont think pers or fb are partners.
dont really think fb is scum at all atm.

Yakko is town i think!

can i get some words on this?

[Gorkington]

youre right!

[Gorkington]

i dont have any!
;D

[Gorkington]

doesnt matter about scum theatre rn

i asked you another question

This does seem . . . like his focus is sharper than usual.

ooooo.
this is a good point!

[Gorkington]

look at that pignash post n tell me hes not scum!

im going to ignore that pignash post until you tell me why yakko is leaning town for you.

[Gorkington]

what a great conversation!

[Gorkington]

i was actually kidding!
got you!

[Gorkington]

did you notice that i got sillier and less focused?
i did that on purpose.

[Gorkington]

oh no i think pisskop is on to me.

[Gorkington]

glork who are you an alt of?

i forget.

Basically yakko is a gutread! The way he was postign at the start gives me a minor town read on him

can you point at specific posts!
i would appreciate this!

Hopefully you don't abandon this game.

my abandoning days are behind me.
im also stubborn and refuse to move my vote off of you right now!

[Gorkington]

@mod is peres vote supposed to be missing?

yah, yah

[Gorkington]

pisskop if you think im scummy why are you voting yakko who i am trying to paint as scum like the devious scummy fellow that i am!
how questionable!
how easy to frame you!
ha ha ha

p-edit: oh well in that case

unvote

[Gorkington]

wait a second.
..

[Gorkington]

yakko could be lying!

vote: yakko

[Gorkington]

explain gorky?

im just trying to be less focused to get pisskop off my case.

Frankly it isnt much of a contradiction at all considering my history of not doing things by the books.

ooo are we both trying to use our meta to our advantage right now?
how fun.

You're awfuly defensive over this though

i dont think i am.
if anything i was being jokey in that post.

remember? im trying to trick you right now.

[Gorkington]

im actually currently reading hippy, yakko and fb as townish.

and im looking at ika and realizing that i have no idea how to read him and it makes me sad.

[Gorkington]

Hello friends, this should be fun!

Just not sure if I buy Percival v Firebringer as scum theater as there was a thread before the game even started with Percival complaining about this stuff in Mafia Discussion.

And would Percival complain about this openly in the thread when he was happy with Firebringer's style when he was scum in their earlier game? Seems early to be playing that card to throw us off the scent if he is scum.

I have a null read on Firebringer as he mostly is defending his meta and not his play so far in this game.

Lastly, I'm not thrilled with the reasoning behind Ika and hippy jumping on the Percival wagon.

VOTE: yaako
Like this wagon much more:

sure!

vote: pignash

[Gorkington]

pigman.
i demand a readslist from you.
for science.

[Gorkington]

pigman.
i demand a readslist from you.
for science.

[Gorkington]

why dont you like the pignash wagon?


also, youre talking a lot about the wagon.
and literally nothing about the player.
why did you vote and why are you currently voting yakko.

[Gorkington]

anyway someone call me scum so i can omgus

i refuse!
ha ha ha.

[Gorkington]

yah, yah

sorry just wanted to make sure he wasnt voteless or something!

[Gorkington]

why did you not like the wagon on percival.
what makes a wagon better or worse.
articulate.

[Gorkington]

also what is your experience with mafia/are you an alt.

[Gorkington]

as in not playing as strongly as i usually do or youre ignoring everything i say?

[Gorkington]

and before anyone (especially you mollie) should know i would not push you unless i genuinely believe you were scum at any point.

hippy is pretty town.
i pretty much exactly get at what mollie [or at least i think its mollie??] is getting at here.

vote: rogue

hi there!
why are you voting xtoxm over people you are actually questioning/saying you agree are scummy!
some would say that play like that is prettyyyyyy safe!

[Gorkington]

questionable.

[Gorkington]

CAN I PLZ HAVE 1 STRONG TOWN READ PRETTY PLZ WITH SUGAR ON TOP. TY.

well yakko and aronis have said theyre town.
pisskop has also said that hes obvtown.
so maybe you could start there?
;D

[Gorkington]

8) hippylove - scummy

go on.

[Gorkington]

11) BL0ODK1NG - maybe town

also go on.

[Gorkington]

i think rogue and persivul are pretty good bets for scum atm.

[Gorkington]

pere and hippy confirmed probably not on same scumteam.

Would be okay lynching

my elaborate strategy worked!

[Gorkington]

GET THE FUCK OUT OF MY HEAD GORK AND DON'T YOU DARE MAKE ME LIKE YOU

im sure it will become increasingly challenging to consider liking me the longer this game goes on so dont worry about it ;D

[Gorkington]

persivul youre supposed to prod at the fact that i havent given reasoning for you being scum.

;D

[Gorkington]

I read it like I read the angst scenes from the Twilight novels.

alone in the dark without clothes on?

[Gorkington]

hippy im not sure i agree that persivul is more worth voting than rogue atm.
persivul liked one of my jokes and hes also less scummy.

[Gorkington]

im sorry.
but rogue is prrrrrrrrrrrrrobs scum.
like proooooooooooooooooobs.
like really likely.
like.
man.
im probably not changing votes.

[Gorkington]

i just said that i think rogue is scum.
thats absolute?

i go where im most confident, especially when i actually feel confident.
i feel pretty confident about rogue being scum atm.

[Gorkington]

i think rogue is scum because mala is low energy and feels like shes sidelining.
and neither of those things seem to match my impression of her towngame.

[Gorkington]

basically you remind me of team mafia mala.
not that you would know why.
;D

I have posted pretty much everything besides maybe 4 posts?

just because youre posting doesnt mean it doesnt feel like youre sitting on the sidelines while everything happens. youre not driving the gamestate.
and i expect you to as town.

p-edit: because i dont feel like being a loud piece of shit this game?
i cant really even talk about why. -.-

[Gorkington]

mollie youre literally arguing semantics with someone instead of driving the game.
cmon.
either push persivul like you mean it or help me push rogue pls.

[Gorkington]

i feel like youre playing intentionally dumb about a point of reference that i glaringly have.

[Gorkington]

im probably not switching votes.
mala feels straight up fake.
and im going to glare at people who argue otherwise.

p-edit: ika im glaring at you.

[Gorkington]

i think youre just sucking at reading mala right now.

p-edit: i think if we drive it and bash the lurkers enough itll happen, especially since at least one scum will want the cred for bussing.

[Gorkington]

isnt jester bastard?
i didnt think this was a bastard game.

[Gorkington]

im feeling kind of serious at the moment.
:/
its a bummer.

p-edit: lol.
will you apologize for your melodramatics if mala flips scum?

[Gorkington]

qualitatively push someone.
like me.
i like being pushed by people i think are scum.

[Gorkington]

Gork just seems to be obxnoiusly obvious to my meta though. I mean it's hard to meta gork or know how he plays as scum when he has no scum games to talk of.

i really feel like youre trying to excuse too much of your play this game on variable meta.
i think if you were town you wouldnt be trying so hard to frame this as "only scum would think i am playing scummy!" and would be trying harder to figure out whether my meta on you was just being poorly applied.

[Gorkington]

plus i think you would be more open to the fact that your scum meta is a little wooden.

[Gorkington]

gj being bored and then contributing to the game being even more boring pisskop.

[Gorkington]

do i get an apology when rogue flips scum later and a bunch of fluff derailed the momentum?

[Gorkington]

thank you.

[Gorkington]

sometimes i literally forget why i even play this game.

[Gorkington]

i might if the game devolves into politics for another three pages.

[Gorkington]

i must stop this political discussion before ika can gamesolve and ruin my perfect scumgame!

why are pushing so hard for a rogue lynch?

partially a meta thing.
also a pacing thing.
theres indirect resistance in a way that i like for it being a scum wagon too.
a scum could have lamely jumped on board by now on the coat-tails of my personality and they havent.

[Gorkington]

if you want a lame unconvincing summary of the meta its that mala is playing overly safe and isnt trying to really figure out anything.
her pushes are reactionary and cautious.
her commentary is sideliney.
it doesnt give any genuine vibes.

[Gorkington]

i dont think anyone should ever try to read into anger.
its easy to fake.

[Gorkington]

rather, it's easy to harness being angry to produce content.
theres nothing that mala has said that i would call alignment indicative.
she could be genuinely angry at mollie's push on her and also be scum.

[Gorkington]

again.
dont see why mala cant be frustrated scum.

if you ignore the frustration.
and look at her play beyond that.
there isnt any genuineness beyond that, that i can see.
if someone points to something that isnt mala being frustrated with mollie pushing them/asking them questions, i will take resistance to this wagon more seriously.

my only solid reference point for scum mala is here:
http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=100&t=61161

[Gorkington]

nothing else i feel comfortable linking!

[Gorkington]

ika do you have any intention of actually taking what im saying seriously? or are you just looking to try and pick apart nonpoints to justify a bad townread on mala's slot based on her being frustrated?

[Gorkington]

god i hate how unsheepable i am.
-.-

fine.
just let rogue post a bunch more and i'll make it fucking clear that theyre scum.

[Gorkington]

[Gorkington]

i cant even post gifs.
i give up.

[Gorkington]

Tell me how I'm supposed to push someone when the game has barely started...?

pushing someone is not the same as pushing someone as scum.
i dont see any scumhunting intent in anything youre doing.
not even in this response to me.

now im gonna go be sad somewhere that isnt here.

[Gorkington]

Good we can lynch you while afk

hahahaha
haha
ahahaha.

[Gorkington]

ika seems like really really wrong town to me.

[Gorkington]

i wish i could think you were scum making up reasons for calling people scum.

[Gorkington]

do tell i though you were afk

like seriously.
how can you even say this.
the worst fucking part is that i believe you genuinely think im scum just lurking in the shadows pretending to be afk to trick people.
why.

[Gorkington]

just why

[Gorkington]

gorkypoo have you realized mollie's buddying you yet

the thought has crossed my mind!
i feel stronger about you being scum though!

vote: rogue

hi there!
why are you voting xtoxm over people you are actually questioning/saying you agree are scummy!
some would say that play like that is prettyyyyyy safe!

Already explained why this 'reason' for scum reading me is bs.

I didn't like xtoxm's last two votes in the thread. It left a bad taste in my mouth.

Also just because I'm questioning someone doesn't mean I think they are scum. Just because I also agree doesn't automatically make them scum.

There's nothing ever about my play that is safe.

you didnt articulate why xtoxm was scum and didnt try to engage him on something.
hes playing low content and lurking.
thus making your vote on him easy and safe.

So instead of bringing up 'towngame' you brought up a 'scumgame'.

hi mala.
did you know that i have a hydra with ank called charlottebebe?
if youre playing dumb you should stop.

Still being vague on why you're scum reading me, which is why I think you are fabricating a scum read on me.

i dont believe that you believe this.

You were cheering mollie on when I was trying to discuss the ika-persi thing,

i really was not.
i told her to stop arguing semantics with you.

Another reason why I'm thinking Ika might be town because he was trying to stop mollie/i, while you did the opposite.

lol okay. nice potshot.

[Gorkington]

okay now im tunneling you to death.

youre playing coy.
about a bunch of shit.

[Gorkington]

I actually have engaged him on something

pretty sure this came after i called you on it.

I'm obvious not counting that game because it's ~ongoing~.

yeah youre scum.
like.
100%.
i would bet the game.
based on this alone.

That wasn't a potshot. I have a townread on Ika. But thanks for trying to dismiss my read as a potshot~

"IKA IS TOWN BECAUSE HES NOT PALYING LIKE YOU!"

yeah okay.

[Gorkington]

yup!
you asked xtoxm after i called you on it!
way to be transparently scummy!

[Gorkington]

the problem isnt that shes voting someone low content.
the problem is that shes voting someone low content, not pushing it/convincing other people to get on board and also not asking questions @xtoxm until prodded about it.
but sure lets be reductive!

[Gorkington]

town
ika

nulltown
yakko
firebringer
xtoxm

null
pisskop
blood
pere

nullscum
persivul
maybe hippy but not with rogue
aronis

scum
rogue

[Gorkington]

and i dont find xtoxm scummy for it.
i think xtoxm is lynchbait atm.

[Gorkington]

be more town then.

[Gorkington]

just here to say
"wow look at how easy it is to form wagons when theyre not on scum".

[Gorkington]

not like ive been doing that all game.

[Gorkington]

yakko is town.

[Gorkington]

but my read on pignash has changed to town.

tell me.
about this.

[Gorkington]

i feel patient.
if im gonna lamevote someone i dont feel super strongly about, i want it to be close to deadline so it seems more like a compromise so people can use it against me later.

[Gorkington]

you think so?

[Gorkington]

have you ever thought.
maybe youre just bad at mafia?

[Gorkington]

;D
;D
;D

[Gorkington]

i disagree.
also, im hoping youre town.
so when rogue flips scum i can sneer at you postgame.

[Gorkington]

pignash wouldnt be a bad lynch apparently.

[Gorkington]

pig claim.

vote: pignash

[Gorkington]

claim your role you dufus.
>:(

[Gorkington]

i want a delicious claim to munch on.

[Gorkington]

im at work. my responses are not guaranteed to be quick.
tell me your rationale behind your play relative to your role.

[Gorkington]

unvote

yakko i will fight you dont be that guy.

[Gorkington]

yakko is town xtox.

[Gorkington]

im honestly still feeling pignash as scum.
i dont like my track record of deadline lynches/reading newer players though.
i would lynch rogue before them in a heartbeat because they literally are scum.

[Gorkington]

"man im scum im gonna try to actively draw attention to myself right before a mislynch"
nah man yakko is town.

[Gorkington]

i could maybe see it being a scummate trying to look overconfident on a lynch on a buddy, but i would be really surprised if pignash was town and yakko was scum in this situation.

[Gorkington]

Its not in his personality.

weh?

[Gorkington]

the straw.
that broke.
the camel's back.
cmon.

vote: rogue

pls.

[Gorkington]

why are you
being so actively resistant
to a roguelynch
which youve agreed to wanting?

[Gorkington]

NYEH.

[Gorkington]

other people vote rogue pls so hippy has to.
k?

[Gorkington]

ಠ_ಠ

[Gorkington]

Hmmm I'm joker lovable clown can choose to attach myself to a person if I die they die with me.

@rogue whats your character and flavor text.

:/
this post literally ruined my two strongest reads.

[Gorkington]

im gonna have to have words eventually /w mala and notty if this isnt some huge scum charade.
yakko going limp in response to a claimed guilty on them looks really awful though.

[Gorkington]

..im pretty sure theyve also said they want people to check in before lynching yakko.
not sure why youre acting like theyre trying to force the thing through >.>

maybe i missed some context but i dont even really understand why this argument is happening, at least to this degree.
can we all calm down? if yakko is scum (which honestly he probably is :/ ) then im sure the last scum is enjoying the noise to hide behind.

[Gorkington]

the thing that is sticking in my craw about rogue is that hippy soft-claimed cop in the previous day round

heh?
when did this happen and why?

[Gorkington]

yay prods.

[Gorkington]

will be sad that my role went to waste. I think xtox is town. people should give that read some nuance. uhhh. pignash is a little underwhelming but pers interactions don't really make sense to me as being scum on scum. oh phone atm.

[Gorkington]

what if we skipped the part where you naked voted me and shouted about it and instead did the part where you make an actual case on me so I can give a shit and make you feel dumb for calling me scum.

[Gorkington]

we should lynch me itd be funny.

[Gorkington]

youre supposed to be more obnoxious about how unconvincingly scummy i am pisskop.

[Gorkington]

woh.

[Gorkington]

I've played 13 player games with 3 mafia and an SK, but the lack of a night2 kill I guess either means SK was blocked, or there is no SK.

have you read anything?

[Gorkington]

im just gonna keep asking lame questions until i feel something for this game.

Who are your top 2 picks for the last scum?

why are you asking this without pushing any reads of your own first?
what are you hoping to get out of this question?
words on this pls.

You could just be town and then we wouldnt be here :v

you pointing your finger and just calling me scum for not being town is literally the most demotivating thing you could be doing.
yes, i could be scum that youre demotivating which would be great.
but i could also be town that youre demotivating which would be not great.

call me scummy for actually real reasons so i can defend myself and feel invested.
if im not town then, then call me scum with your ridiculous overconfidence you plebe.

in other news pisskop is probably town because i dont believe mafia would have an extra killing ability. so yay i can call him dumb without worrying about him just being mafia messing with me.

yay.

i like mafia.

xtoxm still feels town.
pignash gives off noobtown vibes and i think his role is town.

hippy would be my next best guess beyond pere?
i know thats boring but shrugs!

aronis is also a person in this game. someone should talk at me about their read on him because i dont really know.

p-edit: no thats me.

[Gorkington]

i feel weird about my reasons for thinking hippy could be scum.

[Gorkington]

i hope its just pere.
that would be nice.

[Gorkington]

im not blaming you for it.
youre making it worse though.

[Gorkington]

next time i play with you and i think youre scum i'll be sure to just shit all over you instead of trying to sort you though

[Gorkington]

oh.

[Gorkington]

I dont need a reason that I state and arguments about it. Im damn near conftown, was before I claimed too. A suprisingly high amount of my scum-lynches are nothing more than yelling

happy to be the one to tarnish your record. looking forward to holding it against you. especially since its particularly awful to misread me this game.

[Gorkington]

aronis is like obvstown

words pls. im getting really tired of people throwing naked reads around.

[Gorkington]

and if we're going to lynch me, we're going to do it on my terms.

[Gorkington]

vote: hippy

those two omgus voteswitches deserve an omgus in turn.

[Gorkington]

if we want to kill two birds with one stone we can use my role to get rid of me and hippy. i doubt im getting to a three person lylo anyway to enact my sick plan.

[Gorkington]

cos we are not scum like obvsly we are not scum. period. end of story.

tell me all about it. speak slow at me because im dumb.

[Gorkington]

i feel weird for thinking that pere might be town because i like the way hes playing.

[Gorkington]

or i guess his attitude is more accurate.

[Gorkington]

you do understand that you cld be scum pushing a bad wagon when my play checks out as town, yeah?

what are you even trying to convince him of here :/

[Gorkington]

gorky don't be stupid.

look at pere/persy interactions and tell me they aren't partners k?

you were just voting me.
lol.

[Gorkington]

but piss. i could be scum. what if pere's points are coming from town in that situation that would make you wrong to make sweeping statements about him gasp.

[Gorkington]

you also still have a 100% meta of only wanting to lynch me when you are scum

i feel like youre using this as a gotcha point a little too much.

[Gorkington]

i dont think pere is scum.
¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[Gorkington]

i do need to look at scumISOs, but i dont see why scumpere kicks up a fuss like that about someone like rogue who would be hard to push at this point.

p-edit: this is me reacting to you.

[Gorkington]

lol.
propose actual cases.
youre a funny guy pisskop.

[Gorkington]

did someone say blowing people up?

[Gorkington]

im a super saint. want some air in your head?

[Gorkington]

id rather have pisskop hammer me to be fair.

[Gorkington]

how did you know you were roleblocked?

[Gorkington]

you think im scum though what are you afraid of?

[Gorkington]

right. so you're third party this game? cool

[Gorkington]

piss is third party yayy

[Gorkington]

whatever helps you sleep at night.

[Gorkington]

is it me? hammer me then.

[Gorkington]

oh wait you wont

[Gorkington]

im willing to die for the cause.

if i take third party with me then ive done my duty as town.

vote: gorkington

[Gorkington]

honestly piss is just flailing to cover up how awful that hesitation was.
if he was town 1-shot pgo he wouldnt give a fuck about hammering me if he thought i was scum.
he cares because he needs to survive.

[Gorkington]

"gork ur being so dumb.
but ur scum"
okay bud.

[Gorkington]

i wanna go out in a blaze of glory.
its literally all ive wanted since i rolled this.

[Gorkington]

I dont have to. Why would I do something stupuid and take a risk when Im not in a position where its neccessary? Because you goad me to?

hey look youre lying.
hammer me and flip scum son.

[Gorkington]

not yet.
youre lying about not hesitating though.

[Gorkington]

what risk is there to hammering fakeclaiming scum?
none if you actually believe it.

p-edit: i like fucking with pisskop though.
i legit want to be the reason he loses his scum win condition c:

[Gorkington]

its funnier this way.

[Gorkington]

i want you to have to choose to either hammer me and die or scumclaim.

[Gorkington]

GORKY

sup.

[Gorkington]

what exactly is scummy about rogue?
underclaiming?

[Gorkington]

you said motivator resolves the cycle after.
if they were targeted n1 wouldnt they get it n2?

[Gorkington]

...so how are they lying?

[Gorkington]

pv confirms pk did not visit anyone n1

heh.

[Gorkington]

IM TRYING TO THINK.
ITS HARD OKAY.

[Gorkington]

occam says rogue is scum via actions.
not sure it makes sense to put themselves at that much risk via counterclaiming motivate/guiltying a teammate.
i guess notty is kind of reckless as scum?

[Gorkington]

can we have someone scummy hammer me?
i want to use my ability

[Gorkington]

this is dramatic.

[Gorkington]

you hammer me then.

[Gorkington]

how does firebringer die then?

[Gorkington]

so he dies the night after he targets pisskop..?
like. the resolution is "firebringer targets player. player receives motivation. night passes. player then dies."
??????

[Gorkington]

If he targets him as soon as night starts we'd technically all have been unable to see it happen and therefore don't see the flip until the next day.

but your theory is that hes a day motivator...?

[Gorkington]

by any reasonable standard of resolution, a day motivator targeting a pgo would kill them at the end of the day.
not at the end of the following night.
you dont target a pgo at night and then die the following day cycle.

[Gorkington]

at the end of the following day cycle*

[Gorkington]

i feel like that is not very simple.

[Gorkington]

well, i dont know what a nightmare giver is, for starters.

[Gorkington]

i feel like youre trying to be too nonchalant and pushy about this theory that doesnt really make much sense at all.
ignoring a whole bunch of contexts to do so.
would be one thing for you to be like "honestly trying to figure stuff out right now"
another thing for you to be like "woah wtf this is fucking simple you idiots this is what happened obviously"

[Gorkington]

unless you have something that explains how we got our motivate AFTER Firebringer's death, I can't really do much for you.

you could be lying scum? ;D

its a clear contradiction that the track would resolve during the end of the day but the PGO would resolve at the end of the night.

[Gorkington]

>:(

[Gorkington]

theres a flipped mafia ninja.
pere is conftown get outta here.

[Gorkington]

also

Pisskop could be a scum vig or something

what lol.

[Gorkington]

Also, red herrings

pere is also playing unwoodenly.
so.
no?

[Gorkington]

well, i dont know what a nightmare giver is, for starters.

[Gorkington]

maybe he could choose when he could become backup PR?
thus he could have been waiting to choose when a better role died?
a lot of possibilities.

[Gorkington]

hey look thats not what the role is called!
and youre going for a nontraditional definition of motivator!
wow!
amazing!
almost like a double standard!
dont patronize me with a wiki link if your point is terrible!

[Gorkington]

"use your imagination! but limit it with this one specific point for the convenience of what im trying to push!"

[Gorkington]

"Universal Backup"
"Backup PR"
"THEREFORE THEY MUST BE THE EXACT SAME ROLE BECAUSE FARSIDE COULDNT POSSIBLY MODIFY A ROLE FOR THIS GAME ESPECIALLY NOT A MOTIVATOR AM I RIGHT"

[Gorkington]

if youre going to be condescending at least be fucking right about what youre saying.
prick.

[Gorkington]

hello im being indirect instead of actually responding to things.

[Gorkington]

"you see this point youre making? im going to ignore it and insult you."
lol.
can we have rogue hammer me already please?