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In post 21, Spiffeh wrote:^ MattP scumbuddy located
In post 24, DrippingGoofball wrote:In post 21, Spiffeh wrote:^ MattP scumbuddy located
Starbuck is defintely scum, but don't you think scum with Iecerint?
Nope. Sorry to disappoint.<3 Kise, Reck, dram, tans, & Kats <3-
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In post 27, Ythan wrote:Why even acknowledge it if it's obviously a joke?
I responded because I was joking back, but apparently, Spiffeh is serious.<3 Kise, Reck, dram, tans, & Kats <3-
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In post 32, MattP wrote:Shame on all the ppl who broke rule 21
But what if it is a false statement?
I love cupcakes, but I've never had a duckcake.
I totally missed that, so take it as you will. I wonder what the consequence of not doing it is.<3 Kise, Reck, dram, tans, & Kats <3-
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In post 181, Spiffeh wrote:@Starbuck why aren't you doing things?
Because I went to bed early with a headache and just woke up, at now, 7:15 this morning on a Saturday. I'm reading and catching up in Notepad, but figured I'd address this because it feels odd.<3 Kise, Reck, dram, tans, & Kats <3-
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So Iec just didn't read and placed a vote because he saw my name next his in the vote count, which really is just an RVS vote for the fact that I haven't played with him since before my hiatus. Wowza, Iec. I don't remember you going OMGUS on RVS votes before. This is kinda weird.
I'll give my two cents on Spiffeh. The straight out the gate thing that I'm automatically scum based on my RVS vote is bogus, as is DGB's. I figured it was a joke, but I replied to both anyways. It's pretty weird that Ythan had to hop in there and say "why would you acknowledge a joke?" when that's followed up by Spiffeh saying that he already thinks that I'm scummy after two posts in the game. I've ended up in a lot of games with Spiffeh since I came back. A few that have ended and a few ongoing still, but I don't think he's known me long enough to get a read off of two posts with one containing an RVS vote. So why am I scum already?
Then as soon as I finish writing the above, I, then, find this....
In post 183, Spiffeh wrote:Ok I just tried to make something out of the ISO's of MattP and Nacho but they are firmly in my null pile.
Starbuck I expect more from. She's been around enough where she could have weighed in on game relevant things but opted not to.
She acknowledged me calling her scum but didn't even ask why
VOTE: Starbuck
As I said when I saw that post, I went to bed early. Way to completely misrepresent, Spiffeh. I'm not quite sure if this is scum-Spiffeh or town-tunneling Spiffeh yet. I want to lean to the town-tunnel, but this is ridiculous. I didn't opt to not weigh in at all. In the same respect, do you have questions for me on my thoughts? That makes a lot more sense to ask for than throwing down another vote because I happened to not be here when you turned back up.
DGB's continued sheeping of Spiffeh is suspect, as are Syryana and Ythan's jumps. What in the actual fuck? Is that L-1?<3 Kise, Reck, dram, tans, & Kats <3-
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UNVOTE: Iec
And now I'm stuck because I don't know what's scummier...
-Iec placing a vote after just not reading at all and seeing that it was just a stupid RVS vote
-Spiffeh seemingly to start an opportunistic case and bus on me
-All the sheepers who have said not one word about me and tossed naked votes
Those are all scummy actions in retrospect.<3 Kise, Reck, dram, tans, & Kats <3-
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In post 207, DrippingGoofball wrote:In post 203, Starbuck wrote:-Spiffeh seemingly to start an opportunistic case and bus on me
Your candor is appreciated
You realize we are going to have to kill you
No, you don't.
Because that should have said "opportunistic wagon and case."
But you know, you jumped right along there with Spiffeh's ridiculousness from the get go.<3 Kise, Reck, dram, tans, & Kats <3-
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In post 196, DrippingGoofball wrote:I always follow the daycop
If he was a day cop, he wouldn't be voting for me. FYI.<3 Kise, Reck, dram, tans, & Kats <3-
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Was just doing some re-reading and trying to figure out why DGB hopped along with Spiffeh, and why Ythan discredited their interest as a joke, when Spiffeh clearly states that it wasn't. I'm also curious about Ythan's jump onto my bandwagon after his discrediting of "obvious jokes."
I'm curious to hear more from Iec because I remember him being fairly level-headed.
I've got some good feels on Matt.
I don't know Syryana at all, so his sheep of DGB and Spiffeh could be null.
I'm not quite sure what to do about LLD's miller claim, but even back in the way past, I've usually just chalked it up to null and moved on.<3 Kise, Reck, dram, tans, & Kats <3-
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In post 232, Spiffeh wrote:Starbuck's response to her wagon is why we wagon people early fyi
I am a little surprised of how easily the wagon built up but I can't say I don't like it. I'm not a daycop if that's what people are actually voting SB for?
In post 202, Starbuck wrote:So why am I scum already?
I called you scum because instead of contributing to an RVS wagon you chose to vote for someone else.
I'm aware that's mostly a shit reason but it's as good a reason as any to scum read you in RVS.
In post 202, Starbuck wrote:As I said when I saw that post, I went to bed early. Way to completely misrepresent, Spiffeh.
What did I misrepresent though? You didn't say you were going to bed early until after I made that post so I don't understand what I could possibly be misrepresenting.
Starbuck the main issue I have with your response is how you kinda mud-sling everything under the sun relating to your wagon BUT don't follow it up with a vote. You're also using buzz words for me like "tunneling" and "opportunistic". Seriously I've been making a conscious effort to NOT tunnel anyone this game because I know that has fucked me over in the past so I really don't see how I'm tunneling you.
You also say you think I'm town and then a few posts later list me as acting scummy so which is it?
1. Since when is not contributing to an RVS wagon considered scummy? Has that much changed? Because the point of RVS is to randomly vote. To jump on a wagon would mean that it's not a random vote, so I don't see how it's scummy to just randomly vote for someone. Unless you didn't like who I voted for as my RVS vote, that's the only thing that would make sense here.
2. You misrepresented me when you said that I opted to not weigh in on things. I was weighing in on things, but apparently not the things that you wanted me to weigh in on. So, again, why not ask me what my thoughts were rather that misrepresent me as "opting not to weigh in on things?" All you ever have to do is ask and I'll answer. I fucking hate assumptions.
3. You're tunneling me because since the moment of your first game post - you called me scum (which from your statement above is on absolute crap reasoning), then you ask where I was, and then follow it up with a vote 22 minutes later. I mean, if you legitimately cared about anything I had to say, you would have given time for me to show back up or had actually asked me some questions. I mean, if anyone is slinging mud in this go-between, it's you.
4. I didn't follow up with a vote because I can see most of the actions coming from both town or scum, even yours. However, misguided they are.<3 Kise, Reck, dram, tans, & Kats <3-
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In post 245, MattP wrote:I bet I can stretch Starbuck's post to be town-minded in its entirely, just like Syryana stretched every aspect of it to be scummy.
Like, that was not a fair assessment of Starbuck's post at all.
For real.
If anything, it makes feel like Syryana is buddying to Spiffeh to try and get a lynch.<3 Kise, Reck, dram, tans, & Kats <3-
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I was thinking of responding to Syryana until I realized that he responded to my entire post, but never once directed any type of question or clarification to me. He was talking to Spiffeh ON THE ENTIRE THING. If you find me so scummy, why are you not questioning me?
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In post 276, Nachomamma8 wrote:I really wouldn't vote Mollie or Starbucks in a micro game
Starbuck! Starbuck!
Like the badass chick from BSG!<3 Kise, Reck, dram, tans, & Kats <3-
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In post 343, Ythan wrote:In post 340, Starbuck wrote:I just went back and did the math for myself.
Considering I was already on the wagon that isn't much math.
I know. I just wanted to double check in any case.<3 Kise, Reck, dram, tans, & Kats <3-
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I didn't ask you to hold my hand, but you definitely wanted me to comment on specific items and you are using that against me because I didn't comment on what you wanted me to. Deflection aside, you could use this same exact argument on Iecerint or a few others, too. It isn't a fair assessment at all. If you were curious about my thoughts on a certain matter all you had to do is ask. Not make statements from the get go that I'm sum and not follow up with anything but asking where I was.<3 Kise, Reck, dram, tans, & Kats <3-
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1. Also, I clearly thought you and DGB were joking about your votes because it was fucking RVS, so I figured I'd acknowledge it with some sarcasm going back. Ythan, also, thought you two were joking when he asked why I even acknowledged it, but my reply to Ythan was immediately followed by your post saying that you were serious.
So am I wrong for throwing down a random vote or are you wrong for using RVS for anything other than what it is meant for? Because this RVS argument can only go one way or another. Also, Syryana said the same thing about RVS that "it's just RVS." So you can't be mad at me for not pushing whatever RVS wagon you were trying to start when I have the 3rd fucking post in the game. It's RVS for a god damn reason, if you're using it for anything other than Random Voting Stage, it isn't RVS anymore.
2. When it comes to the naked voters and your allusion to 203, I said "I don't know what's scummier" and "Those are all scummy actions in retrospect." However, a scummy action isn't automatically indicative of scum. We mislynch on this site all the fucking time.
So I never said that naked votes are scummy. In all actuality, they are a null tell, but I'm not a fan of blind sheeping. You are right, however, that I haven't scrutinized the ones on Syryana. I can concede to that. So I'm going to go back and do some comparison work.<3 Kise, Reck, dram, tans, & Kats <3-
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In post 392, Spiffeh wrote:In post 386, Starbuck wrote:PEdit: Wait you guys are actually lovers? I thought that was a joke for ~reasons~
Ok fine VOTE: davesaz
ISO is shit let's wagon this.
Not a fan of how you brought that up but I guess it's kinda necessary that it's made clear so w/e
PEdit2: I guess it's a little weird but I feel like scum would be more eager to claim when under heavy pressure so I see less scum motivation in not claiming. Do you disagree?
I can't help the fact that you didn't read, but I didn't even get a chance to claim. When mollie saw that I was at L-2, she claimed for us, but you can see our crumbs in the first few pages. It's what the "<3" back and forth was about and why she said in her opening post that I can't blame her this time.<3 Kise, Reck, dram, tans, & Kats <3-
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In post 393, Spiffeh wrote:In post 389, Starbuck wrote:2. When it comes to the naked voters and your allusion to 203, I said "I don't know what's scummier" and "Those are all scummy actions in retrospect." However, a scummy action isn't automatically indicative of scum. We mislynch on this site all the fucking time.
So I never said that naked votes are scummy.
Come on now
I know that I'm town and you're stating, and believing, that I'm scum from my fucking RVS vote. I'm scum, according to you, because I didn't vote on whatever RVS wagon that you wanted to get going. You deem that as a scummy action and it's from that action that you've based your entire push on me. While you and DGB may deem that as a scummy action, for some ridiculous reason or another, I know that I am in fact town. So scummy actions aren't indicative of scum. Seriously, go look at the number of games that I was lynched as a VT on Day 1 because all these people swore that I was scum.
So, now, let's bring my whole statement back in and not cut it off for some blatant misrep.
In post 389, Starbuck wrote:2. When it comes to the naked voters and your allusion to 203, I said "I don't know what's scummier" and "Those are all scummy actions in retrospect." However, a scummy action isn't automatically indicative of scum. We mislynch on this site all the fucking time.
So I never said that naked votes are scummy.In all actuality, they are a null tell, but I'm not a fan of blind sheeping.
Blind/naked votes are used by people of either alignment. They suck because they lack information, but they aren't indicative of scum by themselves. In the grander scheme of things, like a case or a pattern of scummy behavior, they most definitely can be indicative when looking at the overall play of someone.
In all actuality, I do like to call out blind votes as scummy behavior because I am in full belief that town members would want to bring their insight to the table for the rest of us townies to see what they are seeing. So whether that puts a boot in the ass of someone to go further into why they think someone is scum, thus a positive reaction, or make them react adversely/overdefensively (where that reaction could be indicative of scum), it's a reactionary ploy that I lean on probably a little more than I should.<3 Kise, Reck, dram, tans, & Kats <3-
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In post 406, texcat wrote:Starbuck is scum. She's been defensive from the get-go and I haven't seen any scum hunting from her with the exception of some OMGUS accusations.
Do you have an questions for me/need of clarification anywhere or are you going to be another who just sits back and makes a blanket statement about me without interacting?<3 Kise, Reck, dram, tans, & Kats <3-
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How so? Care to elaborate? Can answer anything? Because I've been doing nothing but trying to save both our hides since Spiffeh started this ridiculous shit in RVS.
I mean, fuck, you didn't even let me claim.<3 Kise, Reck, dram, tans, & Kats <3-
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In post 494, Nachomamma8 wrote:In post 202, Starbuck wrote:So Iec just didn't read and placed a vote because he saw my name next his in the vote count, which really is just an RVS vote for the fact that I haven't played with him since before my hiatus. Wowza, Iec. I don't remember you going OMGUS on RVS votes before. This is kinda weird.
This is not a good reason to think someone is scum; lacking time is lacking time and I don't think him making a joke/RVS post when he doesn't have time is significant of anything at all.
I didn't say he was? I just remarked on it being weird. If it is just an RVS vote, it is just that - an RVS vote.<3 Kise, Reck, dram, tans, & Kats <3-
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In post 496, Nachomamma8 wrote:In post 204, Starbuck wrote:EDBWOP: I'm going to get crucified for "bus." I meant, case, but my mind is fully awake yet.
I don't think that Starbuck would make an big of a deal out of this if she was partners with Spiffeh; it would make the fuckup a lot more significant and thus I think she would stay quiet about it and avoid drawing attention to it as much as possible.
I, obviously, didn't mean bus. So why would I not correct myself and let others make that a point contention when it wasn't what I meant in the first place?<3 Kise, Reck, dram, tans, & Kats <3-
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In post 512, Ythan wrote:As opposed to not correcting yourself and waiting for someone else to comment on it?
I knew what I meant to say, which was "wagon and case," but my early morning brain decided to go with bus instead of wagon. Still a vehicle, just the wrong one.
I realized it after I re-read what I said and figured that I'd clarify to prevent misrepresentation and misunderstanding of what I meant. Should I not have said anything at all and let it ride? I don't know. I just figured I'd clarify that I didn't mean bus because I know my own role and I'm just a Town Lover on a rollercoaster romance with Mollie. I think I did the right thing there.<3 Kise, Reck, dram, tans, & Kats <3-
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In post 522, Nachomamma8 wrote:In post 514, Nachomamma8 wrote:In post 509, Starbuck wrote:I didn't say he was? I just remarked on it being weird. If it is just an RVS vote, it is just that - an RVS vote.
You called it scummy in #203, no?
Starbuck?
I'm not ignoring you. I was in the midst of responding. I don't play that ignore questions B.S.<3 Kise, Reck, dram, tans, & Kats <3-
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In post 514, Nachomamma8 wrote:In post 509, Starbuck wrote:I didn't say he was? I just remarked on it being weird. If it is just an RVS vote, it is just that - an RVS vote.
You called it scummy in #203, no?
In 203, I said "I don't know what's scummier" and that all those actions are "scummy in retrospect."
I further explained this to Spiffeh in 404, but I don't think you are there yet.
In any case, the above quote of mine is a reply to your 494, where you state - "This is not a good reason to think someone is scum." I never stated that Iec was scum. Iec can do something that can be deemed scummy and still be town. He came back in and further explained that his vote was random, so I dropped that because he explained his intentions.<3 Kise, Reck, dram, tans, & Kats <3-
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In post 572, pirate mollie wrote:In post 568, Nachomamma8 wrote:In post 556, texcat wrote:LLD, I don't think you've posted since my request for your other miller games, but I am repeating it in the hopes you'll see it.
Why are you looking for her other miller games if your plan is to policy lynch her anyways?
Ireallywannalynchtexcat.
game?
I'm not really feeling him either. I need to give a glance through his ISO.<3 Kise, Reck, dram, tans, & Kats <3-
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In post 886, Spiffeh wrote:Why wouldn't she remove a more influential town player if she was scum?
Are you sure you aren't scum, Spiffeh? This stinks of a set up.<3 Kise, Reck, dram, tans, & Kats <3-
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In post 902, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:In post 896, Starbuck wrote:
In post 886, Spiffeh wrote:Why wouldn't she remove a more influential town player if she was scum?
Are you sure you aren't scum, Spiffeh? This stinks of a set up.
You're boring me to tears too. Do something other than defend yourself from your accusers please.
When you make statements like this, it makes me want to do that more, just fyi.<3 Kise, Reck, dram, tans, & Kats <3-
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Starbuck Jack of All Trades
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In post 920, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:In post 918, Starbuck wrote:In post 902, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:In post 896, Starbuck wrote:
In post 886, Spiffeh wrote:Why wouldn't she remove a more influential town player if she was scum?
Are you sure you aren't scum, Spiffeh? This stinks of a set up.
You're boring me to tears too. Do something other than defend yourself from your accusers please.
When you make statements like this, it makes me want to do that more, just fyi.
Then you can die.
Then you won't need to defend yourself from accusers because you'll be dead.
See? I get what I want either way.
So you can make it easy, and actually scumhunt, or I can take great pleasure in watching you squirm against a certain demise.
Frankly, either is just fine by me.
So you want to kill mollie, too, then? That's the trade off.
Your condescension isn't fun for the record.<3 Kise, Reck, dram, tans, & Kats <3-
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In post 927, Spiffeh wrote:In post 896, Starbuck wrote:Are you sure you aren't scum, Spiffeh? This stinks of a set up.
This is Starbuck trying to discredit her wagon and give herself an out for when she votes me later all in one! YGG
There's no way this post is from town PLEASE CAN WE LYNCH THIS
No, it's not. You have been on my ass since my RVS vote. This isn't the town Spiffeh that I've seen in the past however many games.<3 Kise, Reck, dram, tans, & Kats <3-
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How do I have anything to do with DGB's lynch switch?<3 Kise, Reck, dram, tans, & Kats <3-
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In post 982, kanyeknowsbest wrote:btw i think you and matthew are wrong about dgb being scum. if she were scum she would have done what she said and shot a strong townie, instead of... tex.. 2 me she used her shot in the towniest way possible in those circumstances i think. more over i cant imagine scum letting her pop that ability d1 at all cfuckin costs.
100% agreed on this.<3 Kise, Reck, dram, tans, & Kats <3