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Post #0 (isolation #0) » Mon May 30, 2022 1:18 am
Postby Datisi »
Spoiler: original op
okay, so last night i was chatting with ducky on discord and we somehow got to the topic of ai pretending to be human and then i got the idea for this setup
this is obviously partly inspired by perpetual meetlo. the numbers are also kind of arbitrary and could be shuffled around, and i don't even know if this would be fun to play, but the idea exists so i'm making this thread.
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I will straight up disregard all reason if you have a PR dream again. You can come back and be like, “I dreamt that Locke is a N2 Bulletproof Multitasking Cop and Self-Targeting Doctor,” and I will go, “Okay, Locke kill it is then.”
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Post #2 (isolation #1) » Mon May 30, 2022 1:27 am
Postby Datisi »
oh, if that wasn't clear: after the turing test is over, both players in it die and can't post anymore.
I will straight up disregard all reason if you have a PR dream again. You can come back and be like, “I dreamt that Locke is a N2 Bulletproof Multitasking Cop and Self-Targeting Doctor,” and I will go, “Okay, Locke kill it is then.”
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Post #5 (isolation #2) » Mon May 30, 2022 11:19 am
Postby Datisi »
i think x would have to be an odd number, but yes.
also i don't think the number of townies HAS to be 2x, (i don't see why this game wouldn't work as an 8v5 for example), but 10v5 just sounded right to my brain last night.
there's probably a discussion of the overall influence the town has vs. the amount of selections mafia can make and how they impact balance, but i would need someone smarter than me for that.
I will straight up disregard all reason if you have a PR dream again. You can come back and be like, “I dreamt that Locke is a N2 Bulletproof Multitasking Cop and Self-Targeting Doctor,” and I will go, “Okay, Locke kill it is then.”
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Post #8 (isolation #3) » Mon May 30, 2022 12:24 pm
Postby Datisi »
my ability to code is limited to a buggy tampermonkey script i made by copying georgebailey's work, so unfortunately no
at first i thought of making it 5v8 (or 5v7 even) but it felt like too much scum influence that way. but also like i don't know how to design mafia games so /shrug
I will straight up disregard all reason if you have a PR dream again. You can come back and be like, “I dreamt that Locke is a N2 Bulletproof Multitasking Cop and Self-Targeting Doctor,” and I will go, “Okay, Locke kill it is then.”
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Post #10 (isolation #4) » Mon May 30, 2022 1:16 pm
Postby Datisi »
well, true randomness isn't allowed, but voting in the towniest player each day would make it so town has to have 3 townreads correct out of 5? which sounds... likely to happen, i guess?
hmm. not sure if there's an easy fix for it.
I will straight up disregard all reason if you have a PR dream again. You can come back and be like, “I dreamt that Locke is a N2 Bulletproof Multitasking Cop and Self-Targeting Doctor,” and I will go, “Okay, Locke kill it is then.”
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Post #13 (isolation #5) » Mon May 30, 2022 1:27 pm
Postby Datisi »
make the game 5v8. if that fails, tell scum to git gud
I will straight up disregard all reason if you have a PR dream again. You can come back and be like, “I dreamt that Locke is a N2 Bulletproof Multitasking Cop and Self-Targeting Doctor,” and I will go, “Okay, Locke kill it is then.”
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Post #18 (isolation #6) » Mon May 30, 2022 9:01 pm
Postby Datisi »
maybe the game as it is in the op, except remove the voting phase and make the scum pick both slots, one of each alignment?
I will straight up disregard all reason if you have a PR dream again. You can come back and be like, “I dreamt that Locke is a N2 Bulletproof Multitasking Cop and Self-Targeting Doctor,” and I will go, “Okay, Locke kill it is then.”
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Post #20 (isolation #7) » Fri Jul 01, 2022 10:47 am
Postby Datisi »
i was out on a walk, and this idea came to me as a potential way for fixing the "the entire game is a bunch of unfun 1v1s" issue. balance is ??? but the current thing of interest is to get a working base, so
I will straight up disregard all reason if you have a PR dream again. You can come back and be like, “I dreamt that Locke is a N2 Bulletproof Multitasking Cop and Self-Targeting Doctor,” and I will go, “Okay, Locke kill it is then.”
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Post #22 (isolation #8) » Fri Jul 01, 2022 11:36 am
Postby Datisi »
i feel like if town manages to pull itself together and yeet a scum in a 8v5 with no prior info, they deserve it
I will straight up disregard all reason if you have a PR dream again. You can come back and be like, “I dreamt that Locke is a N2 Bulletproof Multitasking Cop and Self-Targeting Doctor,” and I will go, “Okay, Locke kill it is then.”
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Post #25 (isolation #9) » Fri Jul 01, 2022 11:44 am
Postby Datisi »
7 out of 8 town need to vote together to yeet a scum
when have you seen 7/8 town agree on anything and be correct
I will straight up disregard all reason if you have a PR dream again. You can come back and be like, “I dreamt that Locke is a N2 Bulletproof Multitasking Cop and Self-Targeting Doctor,” and I will go, “Okay, Locke kill it is then.”
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Post #26 (isolation #10) » Fri Jul 01, 2022 11:45 am
Postby Datisi »
if "town is 2/3rds way to its wincon" is too much, i guess i can try to find a way to nerf it, but like
idk it intuitively felt right to me but do i know anything about balance lol
I will straight up disregard all reason if you have a PR dream again. You can come back and be like, “I dreamt that Locke is a N2 Bulletproof Multitasking Cop and Self-Targeting Doctor,” and I will go, “Okay, Locke kill it is then.”
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Post #29 (isolation #11) » Fri Jul 01, 2022 11:48 am
Postby Datisi »
well maybe scum should git gud
I will straight up disregard all reason if you have a PR dream again. You can come back and be like, “I dreamt that Locke is a N2 Bulletproof Multitasking Cop and Self-Targeting Doctor,” and I will go, “Okay, Locke kill it is then.”
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Post #30 (isolation #12) » Fri Jul 01, 2022 11:50 am
Postby Datisi »
wait, game can't end without a winner if a scum yeet happens since
town gets 1 point for that, 4 scum left in the game
at least one faction has to get to 3 in that time to win, so that's fine
i am slightly worried about, if it's worth only 1 point, that scum just turbobusses the weakest buddy, then coasts the rest of the game, but
I will straight up disregard all reason if you have a PR dream again. You can come back and be like, “I dreamt that Locke is a N2 Bulletproof Multitasking Cop and Self-Targeting Doctor,” and I will go, “Okay, Locke kill it is then.”
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Post #31 (isolation #13) » Fri Jul 01, 2022 11:51 am
Postby Datisi »
I will straight up disregard all reason if you have a PR dream again. You can come back and be like, “I dreamt that Locke is a N2 Bulletproof Multitasking Cop and Self-Targeting Doctor,” and I will go, “Okay, Locke kill it is then.”
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Post #35 (isolation #14) » Fri Jul 01, 2022 6:20 pm
Postby Datisi »
In post 32, Gamma Emerald wrote:This setup looks very cool, on paper scum would win by having 3 TRed scum go up against 3 less TRed row but in practice a moreflid strategy would be required
My one thought looking solely at the OP is that having someone show up in the test multiple times should be disallowed
the one in the op is in the garbage, look at 31
I will straight up disregard all reason if you have a PR dream again. You can come back and be like, “I dreamt that Locke is a N2 Bulletproof Multitasking Cop and Self-Targeting Doctor,” and I will go, “Okay, Locke kill it is then.”