For large social games such as Survivor where the primary mechanic is social interaction.
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Post #212 (isolation #0 ) » Mon Dec 07, 2020 3:55 pm
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by VashtaNeurotic » Mon Dec 07, 2020 3:55 pm
Now updated for Survivor: Flash Mob!
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/ ... sp=sharing
Here are the Elo changes from it:
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Post #213 (isolation #1 ) » Sat Mar 06, 2021 3:31 pm
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by VashtaNeurotic » Sat Mar 06, 2021 3:31 pm
Now Updated for Survivor: Barely Survivor!
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/ ... sp=sharing
Edit: Made a mistake when calculating ELOs, that error is now fixed.
Edit 2: Don't want to take another screenshot so just clarifying that the [Redacted] Elo is just an average of all the other Elos since I didn't know who was put in that slot.
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Post #215 (isolation #2 ) » Sat May 29, 2021 11:16 am
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by VashtaNeurotic » Sat May 29, 2021 11:16 am
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Post #217 (isolation #3 ) » Sat May 29, 2021 6:02 pm
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by VashtaNeurotic » Sat May 29, 2021 6:02 pm
Fixed. 6-8 are distinct since all players were voted out at different times previously, which tiebreaks in most redemption scenarios.
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Post #237 (isolation #4 ) » Sun Aug 22, 2021 8:38 am
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by VashtaNeurotic » Sun Aug 22, 2021 8:38 am
Updated for Survivor: Pantheon
Sheet:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/ ... sp=sharing
Elo Changes for Survivor: Pantheon
Current Top 15 Active*
*provisional players not included
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Post #242 (isolation #5 ) » Sun Aug 22, 2021 2:35 pm
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by VashtaNeurotic » Sun Aug 22, 2021 2:35 pm
In post 240 , Skelda wrote: What is the cutoff for being considered active? I thought I'd be inactive by now.
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Post #249 (isolation #6 ) » Sun Oct 10, 2021 3:13 pm
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by VashtaNeurotic » Sun Oct 10, 2021 3:13 pm
Updated Sheet for Survivor: Wes Anderson
link to sheet:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/ ... =598422038
Elo changes for Survivor: Wes Anderson:
Current Top 15 Active*
*provisional players not included
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Post #257 (isolation #7 ) » Tue Oct 12, 2021 9:33 am
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by VashtaNeurotic » Tue Oct 12, 2021 9:33 am
In post 256 , Korina wrote: how do i get to final elim before merge and go down in elo
is base elo seen as getting to merge?
So Elo is based on expected placement vs actual placement iirc, if you rank all of the elos, the 1200s come in a tie for 12th place. You came in joint 13th which is below that expected placement, so you lost Elo. Note that technically the math is more complicated than that (even if last place is the lowest they'll still lose elo) but that's a good rule of thumb. It's why someone with say a 1400 elo would lose points if they got 7th place but a 1300 would gain.
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Post #259 (isolation #8 ) » Tue Oct 12, 2021 10:47 am
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by VashtaNeurotic » Tue Oct 12, 2021 10:47 am
I mean yes, the calculation technically uses the average of all the other ELOs that aren't yours in the game, combined with your placement to determine how much you should lose/gain (you can see the exact formula by clicking on any value in the elo-post column). I just prefer the ranking idea cause it's easier for me to wrap my head around if I'm the 6th highest rated player, and I do better than 6th, I should go up, if I do worse, I should go down, even though there are more factors like how big a difference my Elo is from the other people at play.
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Post #260 (isolation #9 ) » Tue Oct 12, 2021 11:39 am
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by VashtaNeurotic » Tue Oct 12, 2021 11:39 am
Decided I may as well post the formula here. The K is just the k-value, the higher the k-value the more volatile the change.
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Post #262 (isolation #10 ) » Tue Oct 12, 2021 4:20 pm
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by VashtaNeurotic » Tue Oct 12, 2021 4:20 pm
Max placement is just the number of player slots in the game, so for you that fraction was 23/23 = 1, the most anyone could gain is their k-value (usually 15) times the # of players in the game - 1 (though with the elo term that's technically an over estimate).
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Post #264 (isolation #11 ) » Tue Oct 12, 2021 4:34 pm
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by VashtaNeurotic » Tue Oct 12, 2021 4:34 pm
20/20 actually, there were 21 player slots....
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Post #266 (isolation #12 ) » Mon Dec 20, 2021 5:25 am
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by VashtaNeurotic » Mon Dec 20, 2021 5:25 am
Another game more ELO updates
Link to Sheets:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/ ... 1118280165
Changes for the Survivor: Three Houses:
Top 15 Active Players*:
*ambic would be in 14th place but is in the provisional section
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Post #277 (isolation #13 ) » Mon Jun 20, 2022 4:06 pm
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by VashtaNeurotic » Mon Jun 20, 2022 4:06 pm
New Elo is Up:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/ ... =598422038
Elo Changes from Adorable Critters Survivor
Current Top 15 Active Players
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Post #279 (isolation #14 ) » Tue Jun 21, 2022 4:16 am
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by VashtaNeurotic » Tue Jun 21, 2022 4:16 am
It was but not for the reason you'd think. Ethel did play in 3 houses under a different username, elo has been updated/recalculated with this in mind.
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Post #280 (isolation #15 ) » Sun Sep 18, 2022 4:18 pm
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by VashtaNeurotic » Sun Sep 18, 2022 4:18 pm
New Elo is Up:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/ ... =598422038
Elo Changes from Survivor: Risk vs Reward
Current Top 15 Active Players
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Post #287 (isolation #16 ) » Tue Sep 20, 2022 11:08 am
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by VashtaNeurotic » Tue Sep 20, 2022 11:08 am
In post 286 , ambic wrote: The total played column needs updating. Formula doesn’t include RvR
Fixed!
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Post #289 (isolation #17 ) » Sun Feb 26, 2023 3:10 pm
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by VashtaNeurotic » Sun Feb 26, 2023 3:10 pm
New Elo is Up:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/ ... =337709270
Elo Changes from Genius: Final Encounter
Current Top 15 Active Players
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Post #292 (isolation #18 ) » Sun Aug 27, 2023 12:57 pm
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by VashtaNeurotic » Sun Aug 27, 2023 12:57 pm
New Elo is Up:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/ ... =337709270
Elo Changes from Survivor: Village
Current Top 15 Active Players
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Post #293 (isolation #19 ) » Tue Dec 12, 2023 3:29 pm
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by VashtaNeurotic » Tue Dec 12, 2023 3:29 pm
New Elo is Up:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/ ... =337709270
Elo Changes from Survivor: Lights Camera Action
Current Top 15 Active Players
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Post #295 (isolation #20 ) » Fri Mar 01, 2024 4:34 pm
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by VashtaNeurotic » Fri Mar 01, 2024 4:34 pm
New Elo is Up:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/ ... 1598984248
Elo Changes from Survivor: Animal Crossing
Current Top 15 Active Players
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