Team Mafia 2018: Magical Stories ~Game Over~

[Espeonage]

Vote Thor

Bc he is great as scum and I am scared as a result.

[Espeonage]

Ok, serious business to attend to. I'm

hated

and a

miller

.
There is more to the role, but it's a bad idea to go there at this time.

I'm kinda ugly, maybe we can have a club.

[Espeonage]

I have consumed no less than 14 Tide pods so that we may vanquish evil. I can smell your fear.

VOTE: jjh

What you say suggests that your insides must be super clean but your vote suggests you're full of shit.

This does seem uncalled for on a page 1 vote.

:/

[Espeonage]

I couldn't think of a better way to lead on from the first part of that line tbh. The vote's actually pretty alright under the circumstances

No correct response was to point out he said it was a serious vote.

unvote, vote: jj

[Espeonage]

It's just too much rhetoric here for me I think. Yes only 3 posts. Idc, feels like you're compensating for something.

[Espeonage]

because reacting like the requires a mentality. The only way I could see that happening from town this early would be if they thought it was completely serious and wanted to engage despite the number of posts. Otherwise it reads as a complete knee jerk overreaction, which is typically a scummy trait.

[Espeonage]

I don't really get that follow on.

[Espeonage]

VOTE: Espeonage

Haven’t played in a big theme game in a while. Excited.

Can you not lynch me this time out of fear that I had your teammate pegged. If that happens again please just bus them instead. Thanks.

[Espeonage]

VOTE: Espeonage

Haven’t played in a big theme game in a while. Excited.

Can you not lynch me this time out of fear that I had your teammate pegged. If that happens again please just bus them instead. Thanks.

Hey, all I did was put the vote down, everyone else decided to follow me like a tidal wave for some reason.

It's ok, I don't blame you. I blame the guy that went on my blacklist for being a complete idiot before replacing out.

[Espeonage]

Man, I’m so ultra paranoid of all Miller claims, but I absolutely don’t see Dave doing that as scum. He’s always lurky and usually become a incredibly obvious scum when he’s scum.

Do not do this again. It's not in his team's nature.

[Espeonage]

Man, I’m so ultra paranoid of all Miller claims, but I absolutely don’t see Dave doing that as scum. He’s always lurky and usually become a incredibly obvious scum when he’s scum.

Do not do this again. It's not in his team's nature.

Like Dino would chuck an absolute fit at him.

[Espeonage]

Actually boon, super important.

I want to know why you chose this game. Acceptable responses are alignment, role, or prediction of playerlist.

[Espeonage]

I would rate my ability to read boon correctly. I was about 12 hours from realising why I wasn't townreading him last time we played, and that includes time trying to argue with idiots over mechanics.

Also gut town on gerry from the admission they wanted scum.

[Espeonage]

VOTE: jjh

My previous post was joking tho
But personally the Boonskiies wagon is good, not til Day 2 tho

Tbh I'd rather Lynch noon today. I think a better chance hes scum independently of squidkid

Yeah, probably. I wanted a scum role tbh. My team said before role pm’s even got sent out they wouldn’t let me have a scum on because everyone on site knows I’m more comfortable and like to play scum.

Also, I 100% believe this.

[Espeonage]

jjh feels too fast to not have scum on it be it bus or just a vote. :/

[Espeonage]

unvote

[Espeonage]

Where's Espeonage

V/LA I was only on a lot because I had unusual computer access.

Also been Asleep. Bc, I'm one of those people from the future.

[Espeonage]

Literally idc that it's about me the post just sucks sry man

Interesting bc it's the first momo post I liked.

[Espeonage]

Momo is super towny rn and also-

Hiplop, have you talked to Cheet yet

Sorry for being a hardass.

Also gonna go and agree with another game that says you can't ask a question if it was ignored the first time.

[Espeonage]

I think its kat being kat tbh.

This

[Espeonage]

I want to look at the jj wagon later, this a mental note for myself.

@Fenchurch: Your team gets two scum PMs out of five, are you asking firmly for one alignment or the other?

Also, reminding myself to reread my game with zach, he might pick scum bc picking scum.

ok bye y'all be back on like wednesday.

[Espeonage]

I will catch up throughout the day.

[Espeonage]

Ok kids I got three hours lets do this.

Gonna skip the zach bit seeing as I am p sure in my skim I saw Fen bring the game up (hell).

I remember seeing a good point about that Katy should be reading zach one way or the other. So Defs want to see if that got addressed.

[Espeonage]

katy says zach is town but won't say why

Katy admits they said too much last time they played so I would buy it for the moment and not go zach tbh if thats the case.

[Espeonage]

yo jj why you antsy this page?

Like is there context for it?

[Espeonage]

uhh last page

[Espeonage]

katy says zach is town but won't say why

Katy admits they said too much last time they played so I would buy it for the moment and not go zach tbh if thats the case.

I'm giving a ~secret meta tell~ exactly 0 weight

Did you read the game? Bc it is the only time I have seen a universal townread get snapped out of a game by a vig who had one tell that they knew they couldn't push.

Like that was a scum win if katy was any other role.

[Espeonage]

hippooooooooooo why do you still not vote zach

i want espe to die

consider my vote on zach if it makes you happy

Hey buddy, why you scum reading me man? Can I help there?

[Espeonage]

Although Espeonage is definitely someone I can talk to but i'm not sure about what. Maybe talk to me?

Why are you flopping about when there's already competing wagons with you atm?

[Espeonage]

Hey buddy, why you scum reading me man? Can I help there?

do something other than sit on the sideline and throw mudd

I was in vla since game start relegated to moments with my phone and one period on the computer.

Regardless of that, I throw shit at people until I see what they drop while mad. Then I see if thats town or scum usually.

[Espeonage]

Ok so jj, if you are town, you gotta find a way to consolidate. Slow your arse down and find a way to read. You are in a unique poition of having been pivotal to the early day, so use your perspective. If you're scum then idfk, claim it?

Talk to you're team for a irl day or something.

The flopping is without real reason bc you have no pressure to find a counterwagon to yourself so I actually read it as townie. You've moved firmly to the null pile from earlier.

[Espeonage]

froggy is town btw

sleepy froggy sheepy cupcakey hippy townblock formed

oh no now you're townreading katsuki too
what about hebi?
pedit: nice

hey espe have you read the game

define read, bc I think I have opened all the pages.

[Espeonage]

froggy is town btw

sleepy froggy sheepy cupcakey hippy townblock formed

oh no now you're townreading katsuki too
what about hebi?
pedit: nice

hey espe have you read the game

define read, bc I think I have opened all the pages.

do you have any thoughts other than teaching jjh how to play

Working on it. I don't think I like any of the wagons though if that helps for the moment.

[Espeonage]

Working on it. I don't think I like any of the wagons though if that helps for the moment.

okay for real!?

you havent read, but you dont like any wagon.
you ONLY come on to discredit play without EVER adding anything of your own.

This is the definition of pretending to be useful.

fuck these other wagons. Espe dies today

Oooo goodie lets dissect.

1. Ya realsies
2. Don't like zach bc of the katy read, don't like jj because of the last two pages, don't like fen for bringing up the zach meta. Tada.
3. Where did I discredit you?
4. I would happily openly admit I haven't been that useful, I set up the first wagon and got us out of rvs but other than that yeah I haven't done anything.

[Espeonage]

VOTE: jjh

This is a serious vote

jjh feels too fast to not have scum on it be it bus or just a vote. :/

This post feels too fast to not have scum on it :/

This does seem uncalled for on a page 1 vote.

:/

And this too

Why so :/

Somehow a repeated trend of espeonage doing nothing and just kinda throwing shade at things is evident?

VOTE: ezpe

Okie midokilies.

Figured I start by seeing where you were coming from bc seems as good as anything from the list of people I have zero grasp on.

Basically can you please explain your thought progression here.

I have quoted you jumping on the wagon I spearheaded early, the first time you mentioned me, and the post where you voted me and parked. 5 posts between the later two.

Is this just a cherrypicked read to park on to try and coast day 1, or is there a whole bunch you didn't/won't say?

[Espeonage]

Thor, are you here?

What are your thoughts.

I'm here, though I find the pace and post quality of the game pretty akin to a Large - and thus I loathe it.
I'd help lynch jhh, Katsuki, or Dave.
I think Momo is town.

I have no other reads of worth.

1. This is a large.
2. Where is the patented works with the town to achieve victory? Or do you reserve that for newbies?

[Espeonage]

My signal to noise ratio feels good to me - is this an actual attack or just vague theory complaint of me questioning your playstyle when I generally bemoan the state of this thread?
Because if ti's the latter - fine, you win I apologize.
If it's the former - back that gak up, because that shade is *weak*.

I don't like the way you're approaching the game and hope you change it because I'm fairly certain the pace of the game and the style of the posts won't be changing
also 2 of your 4 posts being one-line shitposts was too funny to not roll my eyes at

If the game pace and posting quantity don't change then I would expect my play to remain the same - react accordingly.

2 of my 4 posts include 1 wherein I directly advocated support for a case.
If that's bad posting you and I will have *major* disagreements as to what constitutes "Smurfposting"
And you'll be the one who is wrong.

nvm ignore previous post, you can play in in peace.

[Espeonage]

Cop hats mean good stuffs, it was a double cop hat.

[Espeonage]

Thor has like fuck all posts and admits it. Happy to let him play in rather than pressure him to force something.

Thor can be great as scum, but I'd rather have a potentially useful townie than get stuck up about posting and contribution rates day 1.

[Espeonage]

Thor has like fuck all posts and admits it.

?????????????????? was he gonna LIE about it? pretend it's not true? jfc

He could overstate or fold to pressure, both of which would be issues. I also hadn't looked at the activity overview.

[Espeonage]

First was to try and set thor's mood, second was to see how he would answer.

It's called purposefully antagonising.

[Espeonage]

Because prodding people is the best way to get them to post without inhibition and with the least editing and self censorship.

[Espeonage]

Bc I posted as I read it?

[Espeonage]

Regardless of that, I throw shit at people until I see what they drop while mad. Then I see if thats town or scum usually.

missed this. what a fucking awful playstyle

But it works. Always has.

[Espeonage]

I'm going to take a back seat tomorrow and see what happens. Will read along but won't post unless there's something urgent. Need to cool off before Espe starts reading me.

It's ok, I don't need to talk to you to get you mad at me if I want.

[Espeonage]

I totally get why momo is on so many blacklists.

[Espeonage]

You guys do know there was a time where deadlines didn't exist and people took their time and let people play in to the game. There's also people from that time in this team mafia. So let's chill it.

[Espeonage]

Hey Thor are you scum with momo?

[Espeonage]

I am offended that people think I need coaching tbh.

[Espeonage]

also espe is a competent player.

yeah this lol.

[Espeonage]

It's actually kind of promising that you only want me voted on your terms.

[Espeonage]

It's actually kind of promising that you only want me voted on your terms.

Idk...see this is one of those goes both ways things....

To quote a50 in 707..."you're townreading me but for the wrong reasons"...see that line...how hard do you think it is to type....but if you post that, you are not accepting an easy townread, why would scum ever do that

it's just as promising a scum strategy as it is a town one

Ok but if hiplop is scum trying to set up my misslynch then they wouldn't flat out reject support because the premise of the other player is wrong. Like that could be what's happening but it's completely stalled my brewing read on hiplop bc it is direct counter to my read of trying to coast.

[Espeonage]

Yes, I'm aware of that.
There seems to be plenty of good conversation going on.
Why would I want to end that prematurely? There are

3 scum

to catch, not just 1.

What is this?

[Espeonage]

The game is 12:3. All TM games are the same ratio.

I'm getting signs and void flashbacks

[Espeonage]

Why would I want to end that prematurely? There are 3 scum to catch, not just 1.

i got them in my crosshairs dw

I stg if you are somehow a vig you are going to literally lose this game on your own.

[Espeonage]

I stg if you are somehow a vig you are going to literally lose this game on your own.

seriously though in what world is this comment remotely pro town ever

When my importance can not be understated.

[Espeonage]

overstated ebwop*

[Espeonage]

bruh

[Espeonage]

Working on it. I don't think I like any of the wagons though if that helps for the moment.

okay for real!?

you havent read, but you dont like any wagon.
you ONLY come on to discredit play without EVER adding anything of your own.

This is the definition of pretending to be useful.

fuck these other wagons. Espe dies today

Oooo goodie lets dissect.

1. Ya realsies
2. Don't like zach bc of the katy read, don't like jj because of the last two pages, don't like fen for bringing up the zach meta. Tada.
3. Where did I discredit you?
4. I would happily openly admit I haven't been that useful, I set up the first wagon and got us out of rvs but other than that yeah I haven't done anything.

VOTE: jjh

This is a serious vote

jjh feels too fast to not have scum on it be it bus or just a vote. :/

This post feels too fast to not have scum on it :/

This does seem uncalled for on a page 1 vote.

:/

And this too

Why so :/

Somehow a repeated trend of espeonage doing nothing and just kinda throwing shade at things is evident?

VOTE: ezpe

Okie midokilies.

Figured I start by seeing where you were coming from bc seems as good as anything from the list of people I have zero grasp on.

Basically can you please explain your thought progression here.

I have quoted you jumping on the wagon I spearheaded early, the first time you mentioned me, and the post where you voted me and parked. 5 posts between the later two.

Is this just a cherrypicked read to park on to try and coast day 1, or is there a whole bunch you didn't/won't say?

Oh baby lets go.

Vote: Hip

[Espeonage]

I have consumed no less than 14 Tide pods so that we may vanquish evil. I can smell your fear.

VOTE: jjh

What you say suggests that your insides must be super clean but your vote suggests you're full of shit.

This does seem uncalled for on a page 1 vote.

:/

why. did. he. vote. me. after. saying. i was. probably. town.

literally out of convenience. Nothing else. He has no convictions, he has no reads. His is scum personified.

Theres a chance zach is just a fucking idiot, and based on out of mafia posting im more inclined to believe that, and have this entire game. Crazy thing right? Actually having reads I stick to? How fuckign scummy.

pedit

"Espe is a competent player"

"Espe is obvious scum"


Both quotes from you

dude...mafia is not the game for you. This is possibly the worst post I've ever read in my 6 years playing mafia.

I didn't. Like I quoted my case when I voted you.

[Espeonage]

okay im going back to sleep. espeonage should be dead when i wake up

I won't get lynched. I will die by scum kill probably N2 or 3.

Maybe N1 if you stop being batshit and people start liking you.

[Espeonage]

Also Hip. I am p sure I've p much never mentioned Fench either. And I think I have zero mentions total of sheep. You're cherrypicking.

I micromanage.

[Espeonage]

I've been told by Paragon of Mafia Hunters that he agrees that hip is scum btw.

[Espeonage]

I've been told by Paragon of Mafia Hunters that he agrees that hip is scum btw.

Spiffeh can't read me and never has that's why we hydra lol we are elusive to one another

This is lies.

Spiff have me links but I'm on my phone.

[Espeonage]

also espe's momo read is trash

What momo read?

[Espeonage]

Yes, I'm aware of that.
There seems to be plenty of good conversation going on.
Why would I want to end that prematurely? There are

3 scum

to catch, not just 1.

What is this?

Espe - I wanted to know about this too. Why did you react like this? Did you not know there are 3 scum? How many did you think there were?

Other people have made posts with suggestions about specific 3-player scumteams they suspect. Did you notice that too?

Just figured it was guesses at groupings or sub groupings. Lots of people were putting lists of three along with a slashed fourth. As well which made lots of sense as a this OR this type of thing.

[Espeonage]

Fuck, I reckon this is town. By I am probably the strongest pr in the game so whatever I need to not be lynched.

vote: Zach

[Espeonage]

viewtopic.php?f=56&t=70899
viewtopic.php?f=56&t=67884

For hippyscum

[Espeonage]

I've been told by Paragon of Mafia Hunters that he agrees that hip is scum btw.

Spiffeh can't read me and

never has

that's why we hydra lol we are elusive to one another

This is lies.

Spiff have me links but I'm on my phone.

its not lies and ill bring counter links

Btw burden of proof is on you to prove that zero times has he read you correctly. Because you're a dumb and used the word never.

[Espeonage]

Ok last thing. Everyone scum reading me for not mentioning certain people obviously missed the bit where I was budgeting time bc I was vla or on my phone.

[Espeonage]

I swear to god if you just fucking hammered

I really fucking hope I did.

[Espeonage]

i was either not in or town in those games????

Hey guess what knowing when it's town you requires knowing it's not scum you.

[Espeonage]

Spiff also says you are not really this motivated as town, and also said you are best pick for scum based on team spec.

[Espeonage]

There was a momentum swing on the horizon.

[Espeonage]

Spiff also says you are not really this motivated as town, and also said you are best pick for scum based on team spec.

yea this slot is scum 100percent.

spiffeh isnt a fucking idiot

Your logic is flawed. Even if I was scum stuff from spiff would still be genuine. That's how team mafia works.

[Espeonage]

There was a momentum swing on the horizon.

yeah there was a counterwagon gaining momentum but it wasn't on you
thanks for the hammer tho

No probs. Do you want to be my designated white knight?

[Espeonage]

"im a little bitch baby and am scared of dying"

Got it in one bro

[Espeonage]

Ok if I get nightkilled

Kats, hip, and probs like maybe Thor is scum. Only confident of the first two. I do not have a read on sheep at all. Everyone is varying degrees of null to town.

[Espeonage]

Do you want to be my designated white knight?

I'll fake an

guilty

innocent on Espe

Cheers buddy. I'll need to check with my team and they may not pick you. But I want to atm.