Secret Hitler 2.0 (Fascist victory!)

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/in

i think that only focusing on slots based on number is neither the best way to play nor a particularly fun way to play so... no

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i can /out if i'm too play to win for anyone here

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Okapoka has flipped Hitler

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I think that Bitmap is actually Hitler. After all, Hitler was the one who killed Hitler in the RL implementation of this setup.

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hi

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/in as lib

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in

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go away :v

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why not nom rc

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it doesn't

do it do it do it

<3

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it doesn't

do it do it do it

<3

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bitmap this isn't going to be a fun game for either of us if your idea of playing to win is minimizing my ability to impact the game, particularly when this is a game where as fasc i am required to actually push fasc motivation and give objective evidence that i'm scum

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the last secret hitler game was won off of me being a universal townread from the beginning and scum only got into one government as a result.

treating it as a mafia clone game != doing whatever this is.

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<3<3

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there's literally no reason to nein as lib

if i'm fasc fasc are going to ja

are you and bitmap fasc trying to shut me out of the game?

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there's literally no reason to nein as lib

if i'm fasc fasc are going to ja

are you and bitmap fasc trying to shut me out of the game?

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just ja there's literally no reason to nein the first gov't

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I got 2L from NSG

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NSG what was the last card? F or L

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ok

Ausuka pick someone

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Good start. Surprised everyone voted JA though.

why wouldn't they?

Typically, you want yourself to be president since you're confirmed liberal to yourself, so why not NEIN the first couple missions to let it run closer to you.

if everyone uses this logic no one is going to be president.

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why would you pick hectic

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i literally don't see the purpose in neining

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i'm fine just finding out who is fascist at this stage of the game.

i'm not sure if i was wrong because korina objected to me doing this a lot last game but i don't see the point in neining a government.

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i mean

it does have scum motivation to nein 2f

but i'm also perfectly fine confirming scum now while we're in the early game

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ausuka what did you give hectic

hectic what did you receive

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how many presidents do we need to have again before NSG

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we need 1/2 yuka/bitmap with me/nsg
we need 1/2

also i fucked this up and oka is correct. we should have skipped at least one presidency regardless so that we could get back to NSG next turn.

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OH I exist

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For some reason I mentally placed myself in #2 because I was paired with NSG

We have a guaranteed 1 fascist in that pairing and I wouldn't actually be surprised if that's an FF government

Ok still we should have skipped to at least yuk/bitmap

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For some reason I mentally placed myself in #2 because I was paired with NSG

We have a guaranteed 1 fascist in that pairing and I wouldn't actually be surprised if that's an FF government

Ok still we should have skipped to at least yuk/bitmap

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Why is NSG a high priority pick, RC? From your perspective you know she couldn't have forced two fascists through because she drew two liberals

this is true actually

but that's not the only reason I have for townreading NSG

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if we are a 2f government we never pass a lib policy unless it's literally 3l

that's a bad read.

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basically

we're doing one of yukz/bitmap pres with me
then we're doing me pres with you
then you pres with ~someone~

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im back

actually hectic is literally hitler

ausuka is fasc

i believe this

if you're L help me decide who the optimal pres is in the next two

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why is rc locking me out of gov ok

literally because mechanically you're between myself and nsg

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also, explain what pair is guaranteed 1 F and why?

We have a guaranteed 1 fascist in that pairing and I wouldn't actually be surprised if that's an FF government

ausuka hectic is at least one F, possibly 2 F

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you do not nom bitmap

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ausuka hectic is at least one F, possibly 2 F

based on the probability of 3F?

a combination of probability of 3F and my general reads on the game

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ausuka hectic is at least one F, possibly 2 F

based on the probability of 3F?

a combination of probability of 3F and my general reads on the game

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nsg should be chancellor this round btw

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just nom NSG

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yes you nom NSG

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ok so

say hectic F

where are the other F policies

I think Oka just wants to force a conf with me to remove me from play and discredit NSG as universal TR

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i think it's something like

bitmap hectic possibly oka?

like why is no one talking about whether bitmap or FG is more likely L or F

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the other possibility there is

the policy list actually was 3f

and that entire pool is F

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im suggesting optimal gov pairings here

why is it optimal to choose someone who hasn't been involved in the passage of a liberal policy over someone who hasn't

i'm not clearing your slot. i know that i'm town.

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im suggesting optimal gov pairings here

why is it optimal to choose someone who hasn't been involved in the passage of a liberal policy over someone who hasn't

i'm not clearing your slot. i know that i'm town.

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ok nevermind

and that probably says oka is in fact town i guess

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you were forced rc and you ja'd a shitty gov that you admit is shitty

i also ja'd shitty governments last game

i trust my ability to find town and clear out the game in late game.

that doesn't work if i'm being called scum for bad reasons.

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yeah fg you can't even play hectic

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yeah fg you can't even play hectic

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I'm liking RC very much for fascist now. Mostly for how he's ignoring all the stuff I'm presenting and questions I'm asking him. I don't see how he puts me as fascist here given Ausuka was the one who drew 3 fascists and I had no choice.

It's reads based not 3F based and the fact that Ausuka was so insistent on nomming you in the first place?
I don't understand why Ausuka as fascist without you being also fascist picks you of the entire list to nominate.

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FG nom NSG she is the only person who has directly contributed to a liberal policy

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no

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Fascists don't have much incentive to pick other fascists early on. Infact, it's better to pick liberals, since you probably get the liberal-chancellor's vote because you picked them + your other fascist buddy's votes

why you though?

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i'm neining any government that doesn't have nsg in it.

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So what

FG/Hectic/Ausuka?

I don't get it

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Or bitmap/fg/??

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Or bitmap/fg/??

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i am worried that

oka just wants to conf me so that i'm discredited and can no longer push reads.

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i am worried that

oka just wants to conf me so that i'm discredited and can no longer push reads.

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nom NSG

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i'm saying that if he gets 1l2f he's going to pass 2f and claim he passed 1l1f

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either f have completely given up on this game or oka is F

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like there's literally only two worlds

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yes

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if this passes F i'm playing FG chance next round.

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bitmap did you get 2f1l or 2l1f

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I think it's like

oka/hectic/??? at this point

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why would you ever check fg

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????

the value of a clear on me is far greater than just having me as a potential president

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I do not think that Oka would even consider checking anyone besides me as liberal

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I do not think that Oka would even consider checking anyone besides me as liberal

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I think Oka is hitler

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I guess it couldb e regular F

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Actually I can imagine NSG just passing lib as fascist and hoping her 2 fascist friends pushing fascist things.

this makes negative sense. why would a weak scum player not pass fascist policies and then just move on.

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you CANT run nsg/rc/me as a triangle because there will be a TD in between nsg and RC

means we have to find all four libs

you're not in the triangle. bitmap has actually passed a liberal policy. you're just looking for a way to keep yourself in the loop.

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Also Hectic neined both lib policies and jaed the only F policy

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why

hectic neined both liberal passing governments and jaed the only F government

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ok

i really don't know who to nominate here.

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so

oka or ausuka

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i really do have to nom oka? really?

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can we nein to nsg

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no we can't

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Nominate: Okapoka

i guess

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if this fails it failed because oka is scum btw

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it's not suboptimal at all and the person who has neined two liberal policies and jaed one fascist policy is screaming that i'm scum.

unless you think that hectic is my hitler and he's trying to bus me him openwolfing really obviously points to me being town

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i told you oka was scum btw

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I had 2f1l i gave oka 1l1f

i didn't think I needed to spell that out.

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so

i'm going to take my invest in FG/Bitmap

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ok here's the thing hectic

from your point of view if you think that i'm scum

why wouldn't i just call you scum

i feel like you're trying to waste my investigate

we need a town in the middle block and we can TD through me/you/oka next time

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Ok I'll take a shot on the game win on bitmap.

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Investigate: Bitmap

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Bitmap is lib

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i think we can win this game without relying on me.

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I don't know why RC also hard defends NSG since he should know weaker "scum" players should just only push lib stuff and good scum players should just push fascist.

dude do you think i needed a policy pass to be able to read nsg? this sucks man.

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if i'm svs with NSG we wouldn't have passed a liberal policy unless you think we got a 3L draw

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if i'm svs with NSG we wouldn't have passed a liberal policy unless you think we got a 3L draw

You could of done it to secure NSG town cred since you know she's horrible as scum and needed to secure her town cred?

or i could have just... not done that

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never trust in okapoka

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nein this

bitmap you're wrong.

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don't give him another chance to pass an f

we'll pass nsg/you

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don't give him another chance to pass an f

we'll pass nsg/you

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jesus guys

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there's no way this actually gets neined so i guess a free extra fascist policy

when this passes F i'm clear.

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i passed a gov with no information when the only flip was liberal. i did the same thing last game. i don't understand how people don't see that you're scum

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i passed a gov with no information when the only flip was liberal. i did the same thing last game. i don't understand how people don't see that you're scum

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meh

i got 3f but i still think oka is scum and i still think he's scum regardless of that government.

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i'll let postgame judge my actions.

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fuck you back.

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RC lying there is terrible and you've just outed him lmao. RC is confirmed fascist for lying about receiving 2 liberals.

there's literally no motivation to pretend there's less liberal cards in the deck than there are and I expected to be a universal townread and have the ability to drive the game later on and use that info.

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lol

hitler me definitely needs to pull some janky stunt to figure out NSG's alignment.

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the game state doesn't make sense if okapoka isn't scum bit

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like me / nsg svs makes no sense. if anything your read should be that she's scum with oka

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oka regardless of alignment is correct that bitmap should be the special election

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ok bitmap

special elect me then

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nsg bitmap is conftown

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i mean

i'm not scumreading ausuka

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i mean

i'm not scumreading ausuka

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but that's gstill gamethrowing

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just pass to conftown pls

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just pass to conftown pls

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ok

nominate NSG or i'm neining.

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we can skip to bitmap nevermind.

can we

vote: skip to bitmap

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we can skip to bitmap nevermind.

can we

vote: skip to bitmap

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if we get 4 votes for skip to bitmap that's enough for nein right

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so i'm not fine with ausuka/you for the reason that he claims to have gotten 3f the same day i got 3f

it isn't a lock claim but i doubt it.

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i think that fg and hectic are like, outed at this point

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and the voting patterns all make complete sense for that set i guess

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like

i'll ja whatever bitmap plays if he's scared that i'm trying to lead him the wrong way

but if he puts in hitler that's on him not me

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i don't see why hectic as lib would still be this contrarian when we have 4 liberal policies passed. the point of view doesn't make sense.

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i don't see why hectic as lib would still be this contrarian when we have 4 liberal policies passed. the point of view doesn't make sense.

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i'm less sure on ausuka ig

but i think this is like last game and scum mostly gave up

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Pick: NSG

Can you pick FakeGod please? Tehre's no way Fakegod is ever hitler here.

this is uhh

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it was easy to solve it from your point of view though cuz you knew you were being kept on the outside so there had to be scum on the inside

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my plan the entire game was to disregard fascist policies and go for the nsg hitler win

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BTW

I ACTUALLY GOT 3F

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i was going to pass a lib policy

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NSG did you get 3f or 2f1l

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i knew ausuka was scum, i wasn't sure if RC was scum or not until he checked oka, even then i wasn't confident, occasionally thought bitty could be scum too

didn't he literally lie about what you gave him in first round or am i misremembering

yes

to out myself to her

but apparently i'm so good as scum that even then she couldn't figure me out

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RadiantCowbellsToday at 3:07 PM
just roll me same
alignment as nsg

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uwu

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dude

we got really screwed on the deck ngl

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dude

we got really screwed on the deck ngl

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the only 3f was on a fascist lol

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the only 3f was on a fascist lol

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nah

i honestly flipped him lib to try to force a Bitmap/NSG election

which... happened

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are you asking me to update my avi

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marathon secret hitler >>>> marathon mafia imo

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wait is that hat like expressly an SS hat or something, will i get banned

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wait is that hat like expressly an SS hat or something, will i get banned

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people were trying to shut me out of the game before i even had a policy flipped

it made me very sad.

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people were trying to shut me out of the game before i even had a policy flipped

it made me very sad.

Nothing personnel, kid. Reads/interactions based.

not you

like bitmap and oka being like do not ever pass to rc

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i mean we didn't play meta at all in our last game but otoh we had a long succession of lib-lib governments anyway so

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hectic was town

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oh I mean it sucked

but optimal play was to pass to 3 and then pass to me after

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but yeah i wanted to give ausuka his election

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also yall were tryna shut me out before NSG even passed anything