TM 2021 - Black Flag Nightless

[Firebringer]

Black flag sucks

[Firebringer]

hello I'm super

not gonna lie I'm incredibly happy to have flipped town this game cos I just won as wolf from the site I come from and... let's just say I try-harded like a mofo and really didn't wanna have to do the same amount of effort as scum (it's draining af but tbh I probably get more invested as town but it'll be less stressful cos I personally think I'm a pretty easy read), I legit had like 3200 posts in that game and the fact that this is 10 days long for d1 hopefully means it also won't be as fast-paced as games are from where I come from (lol it sounds like I'm some foreigner).

ANYWAYS, I wanted to open up with the fact that DkKoba also comes from EpicMafia and in a spec-chat before this game started they said they wanted to use their site clout to get me mislynched I wanna point this out early on because I don't want it to affect the game negatively (especially because I flipped town and if Koba did too and they decide to tunnel me all game then we're in quite a pickle)

I will help u flip dkkoba

VOTE: Dkkoba

Also black flag is bad

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I didn’t select to be in this game lol.

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I was told I got relegated here by random but I could see it being a blacklist thing. Who knows

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I didn’t select to be in this game lol.

what alignment do you like being the most? :3

Scum how about u

[Firebringer]

I didn’t select to be in this game lol.

what alignment do you like being the most? :3

Scum how about u

town.

would you be happier if you flipped scum?

Probably but black flag still sucks

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I am gonna make my team mafia team guess my alignment for some bonus fun

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scumslipped

Yeah u just did

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VOTE: Firebonger putting ya out of your misery.

ty friend

black flag is terrible.

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wait i want out i hate nightless

UR JUST NOW FIGURING THIS OUT!?

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im gonna townread auro based on i just like auro.

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There were only 10 people who could get into this game, does everything hate mountainous nightless games? The best kind of game? Sigh

ur game tastes are bad. get better game tastes

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what if we got everyone to complain so tht the mod switched the setup mid game. wouldn't that be cool?

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I like playing mafia not listen to the mod tell you who's scum simulator

the boomer alert is going off.

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Koba, be honest. would you dumbtell like this on purpose as scum? also did you post this to force a towntell? (I know you said you force towntells as both alignments so I'm trying to figure out if it was genuine or not lmao)

ignore that as a tell.

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Koba, be honest. would you dumbtell like this on purpose as scum? also did you post this to force a towntell? (I know you said you force towntells as both alignments so I'm trying to figure out if it was genuine or not lmao)

ignore that as a tell.

you think it's NAI?

100%

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i think we should all just end our posts with if you know what i mean, if you know what i mean.

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i think we should all just end our posts with if you know what i mean, if you know what i mean.

I dont know what you mean, if you know what I mean

ohh i should explain it better, if you know what i mean

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no the townslip was real its me being town

thats not a townslip. scum could also not notice what setup we doing lol. I have done that before as scum if u know what i mean

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Firebringer will you like me less if I say I like mountainous nightless? :3

i can like those with bad tastes ofc. god wishes us to help all those who suffer from the sickness that is liking mountainous if you know what i meana

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chennisden - dunno
JohnnyFarrar - lower than average poster
Flopz - lower than average poster(as scum at least)
Auro - dunno
Lilith2013 - lower than average poster (busy irl)
Infinity 324 - average poster, can be hyperposter but rarely.
Ampharos - dunno
Super - spammer supreme
Firebringer - average??
DkKoba - depends on the PL/setup/how i wanna approach the game

If this is "how much does each player spam" put "colossal spammer" next to my name

ur an extreme lurker tho

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I dont get how or why yall are making an argument about townslips or what because I literally think it's an "I dont care enough to read the setup slip"

And that means nothing

i agree with this take if you know what i mean

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chennisden - dunno
JohnnyFarrar - lower than average poster
Flopz - lower than average poster(as scum at least)
Auro - dunno
Lilith2013 - lower than average poster (busy irl)
Infinity 324 - average poster, can be hyperposter but rarely.
Ampharos - dunno
Super - spammer supreme
Firebringer - average??
DkKoba - depends on the PL/setup/how i wanna approach the game

If this is "how much does each player spam" put "colossal spammer" next to my name

ur an extreme lurker tho

X

ur usuaally active for like the first game day then u disappear from face of the earth.

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ohhh no we are in the classic argument over whether something is or not a scum slip....

LORD GIVE ME THE PATIENCE TO WITHSTAND THIS BORINGNESS

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thats good.

did u know black flag is a bad setup?

themoreyouknow

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Auro u didn't respond to me saying i wish to townread u here.
What if i told u my mission this game is to make u paranoid of me?

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thats good.

did u know black flag is a bad setup?

themoreyouknow

you've been saying it repeatedly. I'm not sure I "know" that black flag is a bad setup. What constitutes "knowing"? Can we ever truly "know" something?

r u socrates?

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what kind of question is this lmfao?

"do u scumread super"
bruh its fucking page 4

auro likes to jump right into the game. please forgive him for his transgressions.

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infinity posted?

infinity is autumn leaves

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Auro u didn't respond to me saying i wish to townread u here.
What if i told u my mission this game is to make u paranoid of me?

I was going to declare a Fire-Auro townblock and then got distracted

It's on. MY mission is to make YOU paranoid of me as well. Who else wants in on Paranoia Townblock?

@Lilith: you said you leaned the other way, so I gathered you may be reading that as a scumtell. What's your impression of Super overall?

Its on. I am gonna hard town lock u so hard ur gonna be convinced im pocketing u.

U think u can make me paranoid? LOL pls. I eat paranoia for breakfast

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i think dkkoba is town. But i need to make people paranoid of me so i will keep voting them.

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Infnity is approaching this game like how something_smart would if he was scum in this game btw. Not sure if i should scumread infinity for it though.

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Do you think infinity and SS have similar approaches to mafia..?

Not the exact same. But similarish.

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lilith go ask Something_smart if he agrees with what im saying.

I should read rules if we are allowed to post or ask for team members help but im pretty sure we can? not s ure why we couldnt.

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Did you know playing is conducive to your winrate?

Themoreyouknow

need a citation on this one.

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Don't have much experience playing with people who can read me well :3

I townread u here. Just pretend i am good at reading u.

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i actually legitimately townread auro now, so hard townlocking him is just gonna be easier going forward.

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i actually legitimately townread auro now, so hard townlocking him is just gonna be easier going forward.

lmao what the fuck?

I know. I am good at this game.

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auro we need a private pt to post in this game

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i am also reading lilith as townn. So productive.

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auro we need a private pt to post in this game

We can use our scum PT

Sounds like a plan

@chennisden. I am extremely annoying as scum too. Try harder.

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Auro your posts feel purposeful to the point of being manipulative - I feel like you have an agenda that's too well-defined to be uninformed

No this is just how he thinks and posts.

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wow koba was accurate in the prediction

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btw petapan (gira), my teammate, also agrees with my townread on Lilith and he just told me that Lilith normally is lurky af as scum

tell peta i said hi!

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koba will tell us when it is appropriate to have reads.

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koba will tell us when it is appropriate to have reads.

i am the gatekeeper of reads.

only vibes beyond this point until i say otherwise

i vibe this hard

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you can’t eat vibes!

wait u eat reads?

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Super u seem chill. Did u enjoy your bday?

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Super u seem chill. Did u enjoy your bday?

Let's add Super to our Townblock!

Im good with it.

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Super u seem chill. Did u enjoy your bday?

Let's add Super to our Townblock!

like wtf is this garbage

he is trying to make me paranoid but it won't work!

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on one hand, I feel left out; on the other, not really townreading enough to think that hypothetical bloc is all town

I will be a townblock with you and no one else cos I feel more comfortable with you

Wow auro, we just got rejected.

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Wow auro, we just got rejected.

It's fine. I'm drafting up the papers for a townbloc merger as we speak!

this is how i feel about this:

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everyone in this game when they find out what setup they are playing:
:suprisedpikachu:

me: been complaining forever about it.

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everyone in this game when they find out what setup they are playing:
:suprisedpikachu:

(/s, I was joking)

how dare u joke.

btw ur vote is on ur townread/ town block.

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why sensitive abt that vote?

im scared of getting yeeted.

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i don't wish to bring dishonor upon my team koba.

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VOTE: Autumn, Leave

not a bad vote.

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I like playing mafia not listen to the mod tell you who's scum simulator

the boomer alert is going off.

I feel personally attacked by this

not all boomers are bad

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Nancy just told me a secret about auro that is interesting. -> with that, who do you scumread auro?

I want to hear this secret

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also i think chenn is also possible scum and i wanna addess that when im a few drinks in

i agree with this take

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i predicted in my mind that u would townread lilith here infinity.
I also predicted u would town lean me so when i saw u agree with that one post.

I go "Hmmmm......ur doing exactly what im thinking ur gonna do".

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when i made those predictions in my mind it wasn't conditional on alignment. :/

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im gonna confirmation bias and say it doubles ur chances of scum role pm

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i have my boi norwee about to drop some reads into this game

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firebringer is unreadable

wow my former dance partner says this to me. How rude.

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Firebringer, you've mainly been memeing with a few points sprinkled in. Gonna leave now so I'll throw my vote onto you

VOTE: Firebringer

so hopefully I'll wake up tomorrow to some spicy substantive content from ya

gonna be a disappointing when u wake up to find nothing of substantive.

maybe u will enjoy my spicy memes tho

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as a fellow spammer

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yo FLopz, i am around if u want to shoot the shit. I just woke up though so give me 5 mintues to shower and take my morning coffee

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Fire where be Norwe's reads

For some reason i thought i posted them.
let me find it:
he liked how u responded to me saying i wanted to get u paranoid and townlock u so he says u town ping
he would treat lilith as eternal null which i found interest cause i was hard towning her
koba was prob town wow really boring norwee
he thinks autumn leaves is scum and he repeaated town list with super included and everyone else was null or scummy.

This isn't nearly enough controversial for my taste.

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This isn't nearly enough controversial for my taste.

There isn't enough controversy this game, yea, who do we wagon then Fire

i mean i think the biggest controversy would be wagoning super me thinks. But i like super too much right now. Maybe if we wagoned u and i did a top 10 anime betrayal 2021.

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best to ask mod, i never seen players use it. Don't see why u couldnt

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I know its nai for u

Its just not helpful and this isnt The Super Show

we can host a competing show with u being the star if u would like.

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i think koba show would do well with the older age group. also the anti government conspiracy theorists. It would have a good niche of viewers.

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This is a awkward argument.

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@Koba i get u 2 have a history but if ur going to tell Super she doesn't deserve townreads ur gonna have to show how her actions are NAI not just tell us it is.

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where is everyone at with lilith? i was high townreading her earlier but norwee makes me go ???? and now i want discussion on it.

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having the same amount as me is not a good sign. I understand ur busy lilith. audit season is gonn be like that for awhile.

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I'm townreading them too easily for that.

u definitely are, but i will accept it.

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So fire, let's start with a perfectly vague question. What do you think is going on with the gamestate, anything in particular calling out to you, be they SRs or TRs?

I think the game state is kind of slowed down alot. I don't think anyone is particularly screaming at me scum. I think the most i get is i sense frustrations from u and dkoba, for different reasons. Also super is annoyed at koba but that is obvious. As far as reads mine haven't changed in the last 5-6 pages?

We might do well with a bit more focused questions, if interesting stuff was happening i would probably be talking about it

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@fire I know and I have a new client this year on top of my usual ones and the new client is a goddamn garbage fire (: (: (:

godspeed lilith, i know the grind can be real.
especially with a disorganized unhelpful client lol.

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Coolio, so have your AL reads changed or do you still think that they are a bit scummy? (I'm ref 227)

my autumn leaves read is about at same state as was before. yeah.

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Just got the boy home what's good? Not caught up but willing to chat while settling in

ur at E-1 sup

u counted wrong.
Johnny u just got hammered.

Final reads?

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Coolio, so have your AL reads changed or do you still think that they are a bit scummy? (I'm ref 227)

my autumn leaves read is about at same state as was before. yeah.

What exactly is you Autumn read as I think that's the only comment you've made about them and that's not excatly giving much info

I think autumn leaves is scum. I thought their entrance and interaction with lilith was how he would go about it as scum trying to pocket her. That initial vibe hasn't died but it is quelled in that he hasn't done anything directly that makes me think he is working for townreads or appease anyone, but at same time i think well maybe his alignment dependent on if lilith is scum or town and i want to get a good read there.

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Coolio, so have your AL reads changed or do you still think that they are a bit scummy? (I'm ref 227)

my autumn leaves read is about at same state as was before. yeah.

What exactly is you Autumn read as I think that's the only comment you've made about them and that's not excatly giving much info

I think autumn leaves is scum. I thought their entrance and interaction with lilith was how he would go about it as scum trying to pocket her. That initial vibe hasn't died but it is quelled in that he hasn't done anything directly that makes me think he is working for townreads or appease anyone, but at same time i think well maybe his alignment dependent on if lilith is scum or town and i want to get a good read there.

I don't think I would try to argue with someone about a theory point that we both agreed was not relevant to anyone's alignment in this game, if I was trying to pocket them. Unless this is solely based on 91

this was like based on first 4-5 pages; so that probably included it but i don't remember that post being a huge factor.

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this was like based on first 4-5 pages; so that probably included it but i don't remember that post being a huge factor.

Ok but nothing else I said to lilith remotely resembled pocketing so can you look at this again when you get the chance

ill reread the game then.

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infinity where do u think u actually started plying and when u want people to begin their read analysis from?

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oh, relevant!!! SS kind of agreed that infinity’s entrance feels similar to how he (SS) would approach a game as scum but doesn’t thjnk he and infinity are similar enough, at least early game, for that to be scum-indicative

ty for posting this. Knowing i am right that about it being how SS would post has made this game complete.

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I don't get how "X cares about looking like town" indicates someone is scum, because I don't think there's a single player here who wouldn't be kicking and screaming if they were getting scumread for stuff mostly out of their control

I also think people's reads on me are really lazy and that annoys me a little bit

I wouldn't be screaming.

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I really like Flopz ;_;

name 3 people in this thread u hate.

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@Flopz i have no strong feelings on amps and most of the time been forgetting they exist. They made like one big content post and i felt it was fine for what it was but i don't feel strongly about her. She isn't my type.

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i think i am abobut ready to 1v1 chennisden because his claims of being a spammer need to be addressed as lies and blasphemy.

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VOTE: chennisden

lets go pichu. Do u think u can even come close to my output here on FIRE

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I really like Flopz ;_;

name 3 people in this thread u hate.

there's only one and it isn't "hate" but it could definitely become that over time

you need to collect a rogues gallery of villians, the way you seem to go about things ur never going to get one.

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Johnny is the slot I probably like the least, but I don't actually have strong "I don't like this slot!" feelings about anyone yet. Which really concerns me, because I think this is a sign the "implicit townbloc" that's formed right now correlates to activity rather than actual towniness.

Look at this milquetoast take here. So scummy

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Fire, I've realised you never actually explained why you TR Auro. Could you explain it plox

the way people interacted with him earlier with koba was townie of him, auro scum much better at going through the interaction getting u to agree with or town lean him and don't think he faired too well in that exchange for what scum him could do.

also i am working on getting him paranoid of me so bolstering my confidence meter on the read will help with that

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I definitely have this feeling too and wonder if slots that aren't as active like Amph/Lilith/Johnny could just be town and easy targets for scum to latch onto - I don't think this means we shouldn't push them for content though because either way they need to be here at some point and tell us their thoughts.

Look at this person agreeing with everyone. So boring.

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These takes are like how i would write them to get them to agree with.

How do u all become suckers so easily

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I'd like to point out firebringer ostensibly has a large number of posts, but I don't remember a single thing he's actually done this game

I am known for not doing anything though. Its kind of my gimmick.

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chennisden i expect some spicy memes out of our 1v1 here or u need to rescind ur claim of being a spammer.

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Okay i have worked myself into believing that chennisden is actually scum.
I can fully case him at my leisure but i have found my votes home and ready to death tunnel at the ready.

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This is a pretty boring 1v1 tbh, there's no ad-homs or namecalling. Like if you want to 1v1 at least be toxic or why even bother. Chenn say something really inflammatory to fire, quick, go go go

i mean all he is got is i am useless/not contributing and i am a shit poster.

all things ive accepted. So.....he will have nothing.

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i agree with u flopz this isn't a true 1v1 till we start mudslinging.

hey chennisden,
ur mother is a hamster and your father smells of elderberries

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u call urself a spammer and u couldn't even post in the last 5 minutes. For shame.

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Firebringer

You think you're a spammer
But wait till I bring the ban hammer
I'm about to get you voted out of this game
Because all of your takes are so friggin lame
You say you spam the place
But I don't remember ya face
You say that you're the king
But you don't know a thing
Your iso might be 5000 posts long
But your shitposting tactics are just fucking wrong

VOTE: firebringer

This is what im talking about

chennisden calls himself a spammer
but he can't even post a single spam
he thinks he can put out a fire
but he doesn't even have a dryer
the boi thinks he got some static
but he just posts like he is on automatic

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I'd like to point out firebringer ostensibly has a large number of posts, but I don't remember a single thing he's actually done this game

I am known for not doing anything though. Its kind of my gimmick.

That's not a gimmick that's just boring

If you want to lose at least lose in an interesting way

My customer service line is always open to interesting new ideas on ways to better improve our product and or service.

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Please, firebringer, half this page is me
Or are you so dumb that's something you can't see
I know your act is just a scum tactic
But you getting limmed will truly be slapstick

you think you can play
but you don't even have the time of day
you think you can take me
but it won't be that easy

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Breaking news: Pichu scares Firebringer into conceding game of mafia, teammates extremely upset

This is a horrible april fools joke newscast. No one would believe this Johnson.

You are fired.

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Look at this pichu thinking he can compete with me while he complains about how empty and long my iso is.
It adorable.

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Chennisden: Look mommy i posted 5 times within a minute. am i spammer now?
Mom: Ahhh how precious. You will be one day if you keep at it =)

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come on chennisden where u at.
don't concede this easily even with the rap battle ur wooden like a bat.

I don't want to win this so soon. I am having fun

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my teammates approve my 1v1 with chenn

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Also I would definitely have the balls to do this as either alignment

what r u even talking about. U aren't even risking anything yet with this 1v1 and u backed out of it after one page. Theres nothing ballsy about ur play to throw some raps down and vote me.

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chennisden even by your own thing my iso is empty and has no content. what do u risk going after me? zero. What u talking about.

also fine with waiting for u to finish work to 1v1 i gotta go here in 5 minutes and will be back later.

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What up Koba

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I don’t think Chenn “posting habits” are scummy.

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then whats ur issue with them?

Surprised u don’t see it.
Don’t worry I will case him later.

good news, I am down to the last item on my to-do list for today! bad news, it's a big boi.

That is good news.

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I am disappointed in both of u

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I want FB to come back and grace me with links to their town and scum games

i kind of want ur teammates to do this instead

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FB's entire vibe this game has pinged me as towny tbh

ur just townreading my personality tho

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oh do you mean asking petapan for your games?

yes but i thought ur other teammates have played games with me. I actually don't know if peta played with my scum game.

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@FB, peta essentially told me he can't meta read you for shit and relying on meta for you isn't going to be very useful because 95% of your posts are shitposts lmao

This is a very popular opinion of me.

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should I not townread you then Firbo?

i mean if i say no ur just going to townread me harder. if i say yes, id just be lying to u. What a conundrum.

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btw how was ur birthday? Pls tell petapan i love him.

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mfw chen thought they were the spammer of this player list...

i told u he is a liar

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it is a conundrum indeed, but fuck it I am going to townread you for today and will re-evaluate based on the game state. I feel confident about it rightnow and maybe you've got me in your sweet comfy pocket but it feels okay right now

do you think you'd be playing this game any different as scum?

yes i would be shit posting even more as scum. some question whether thats possible. trust me it is.

my birthday was really nice thank you! I saw friends and family and ate a tone of chocolate

omg i want chocolate right now. thats nice good to hear u had a good bday

should I not townread you then Firbo?

i mean if i say no ur just going to townread me harder. if i say yes, id just be lying to u. What a conundrum.

also btw is it bad i townread this post more than either of those responses if you chose one lmao

what if that was my whole plan O_o

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auro uve had the most experience with me. I find it very interesting ur thrown of by my play.

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but really though, look into my eyes Firbo: are you town or am I going to be laughed at postgame?

if ur trying to hypnotize me. It won't work.

But i can tell u that i don't like telling people like the whole "i am town guys" i feel its too cliche. I can give u self reasons why i think my play is townie but just telling someone that i am town always feels weird and annoying to see people do.

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i really do have a scum read on chennis. I need to case him so u all see what im seeing. Initially the push was memey but i think i posted "ohh i believe he really is scum" and it was at that point i really bought into the chennisden scum thing.

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i think u have developed alot of thought onto players super.

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I town read you. You are probably my strongest townread after Auro.

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Fire, I've realised you never actually explained why you TR Auro. Could you explain it plox

the way people interacted with him earlier with koba was townie of him, auro scum much better at going through the interaction getting u to agree with or town lean him and don't think he faired too well in that exchange for what scum him could do.

also i am working on getting him paranoid of me so bolstering my confidence meter on the read will help with that

this but auro says im using faulty reasoning

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I will do that tomorrow along with my chennisden case i really need to get sleep i need to give my aunt a ride to airport in 6 hours.

[Firebringer]

6. Loyal Servants: Xtoxm, Auro, Pink Ball, Flavor Leaf

im bad at sleeping.

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he's succeeding in his paranoia mission .-.

i am very much enjoying this game

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also i reread last few pages and if anyone is pocketing anyone. I think super is doing it to me.

and i am just willing to let her do it.
being stabbed in back by her doesn't seem too bad.

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firebringer, why do u think super is pocketing you?

the look into my eyes and tell me i am town, don't tell me ill look stupid after this game.
i was at first wanted to tell her to chill but yeah on reread im like "if i didn't know better this was a manipulation tactic"

but legit not gonna worry about her. Gonna keep her my highest townread and give her congrats post game for this if she got me.

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the way you're so upset about me lessening a tr on you just makes me think you're probably town cos of holding onto it so deeply lol

I’ve been steaming about it all day. great fuel for mashing keys on excel tbh

lol those days when u bring them mafia feels into work.

ngl i had a day i was in a meeting and i had a eureka moment where i was like "i think that fucker just manipulated me"

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firebringer, why do u think super is pocketing you?

the look into my eyes and tell me i am town, don't tell me ill look stupid after this game.
i was at first wanted to tell her to chill but yeah on reread im like "if i didn't know better this was a manipulation tactic"

but legit not gonna worry about her. Gonna keep her my highest townread and give her congrats post game for this if she got me.

u are the type of player that loses to scum super and then wonders why u lost to scum super

yeah probably

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firebringer, why do u think super is pocketing you?

the look into my eyes and tell me i am town, don't tell me ill look stupid after this game.
i was at first wanted to tell her to chill but yeah on reread im like "if i didn't know better this was a manipulation tactic"

but legit not gonna worry about her. Gonna keep her my highest townread and give her congrats post game for this if she got me.

you realise when you make posts like this I feel the exact same way about you right?

yes

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it's firebringer and auro btw

this is a top 10 anime betrayal of 2021

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No lie though ive been trying to get scum teams to do a plan of hard locking each other to make a makeshift townlock group in games and no one ever wants to do it and it is annoying no one has the balls to do it.

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you need to put the number of dice and sides t oo for exaample 1d6

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Original Roll String: 1d6

1 6-Sided Dice: (1) = 1

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No lie though ive been trying to get scum teams to do a plan of hard locking each other to make a makeshift townlock group in games and no one ever wants to do it and it is annoying no one has the balls to do it.

<3 go sleep

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lol how did i quote myelf ment this one

pedit: if we ever flip scum together firby I'll locktown with u <3

<3

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never vote anyone lilith

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a refusal to make a stance on literally anything is fucking scum indicative dont whiteknight kthx

but if she is whiteknighting doesn't that make lilith town?

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VOTE: amph

Just to see what happens.

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having a life is scummy

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having a life is scummy

on that note knowing how lilith job works, trust me when i say she is too busy to even have a life with her work.

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My being thrown off with Fire's play has cleared now, I am back to no paranoia

you bastard

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also super is my soul mate. her trolling koba stole my heart

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My being thrown off with Fire's play has cleared now, I am back to no paranoia

you bastard

You should've faked enjoying the drama if you wanted me to stay that way

i got plenty of time to make u paranoid don't worry.

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koba when u say people are being scummy for changing reads, and u can't keep a read static for like 3-4 pages without jumping on another person. I can't help but feel ur not very self aware of the arguments ur making.

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i really do have a scum read on chennis. I need to case him so u all see what im seeing. Initially the push was memey but i think i posted "ohh i believe he really is scum" and it was at that point i really bought into the chennisden scum thing.

If you wanna do this now I'm all ears

ohh let me give u the short version before i give long version:
short version is i think chennisden is exceptionally wooden for whaat he has posted. I think he has holding back emotions and got some passive aggressive when it came to me earlier in game, i tought he was being exceptionally strange in our 1v1 and i think he knew what he wanted out of that cause there was nothing he was doing to progress a read.

look at his post of 156; at tht point i think he waas trying to give too much on a read to say he had a read when he didn't haave anything. In other words tried harder to put words to postings to justify read when nothing existed. and when he dove more into it 174 i don't feel he believes u were scum originally or his interaction screams he is talking to an actual scumread.

look at his interaction with me. first few posts in this game he talked about me like he disliked me (he says he reads me by annoyance level with me); that pretty much was non-existent in our little tiff and he backed of easily. Now could u say he was just holding back, sure, its just i don't think he had any intention of using that to read me. I think he got stuck into a reactionary omgus, didn't know how to progress with that omgus because he couldn't find anything to do push or angle to take it, decided "fuck it. ill just say im joking don't care" and left it. Like it was easy to do that, and then he pretends like he had balls to do something in which he showed no courage or conviction to do while saying he was like doing something out of ordinary for someone to do.

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that wasn't as short as i wanted.
i can go through posts by posts but i wanted to give u broad overview of events and how i think scum chennisden isn't really hunting. How he is giving the impression he is, and how he is a wooden machine that needs an upgrade to be a real boy who i can believe has positions in this game he will fight for.

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super ur better of ignoring koba

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koba, what is going through ur mind when u utter the sentence "last time i 1v1d you you just ragequit so i won there" and u keep hammering the person ur talking to with questions, continuing to push and push.

The first post super posted was saying u were gonna push her before i even saw one post from u, and i 100% believe it.

What the hell r u doing.

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if ur getting a person to rage quit in response to ur actions. U probably need to reflect on ur actions. Especially when that person is telling u that they wish for some space.

u can push super but like this seems excessive and i don't blame her for not liking it.

Like take a thread break at least

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if ur getting a person to rage quit in response to ur actions. U probably need to reflect on ur actions. Especially when that person is telling u that they wish for some space.

u can push super but like this seems excessive and i don't blame her for not liking it.

Like take a thread break at least

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i want to hear what auro thinks of my rough draft of my book called:
chennisden, the scum of the pichus

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Koba is creating too many enemies to be scum.
Unlike me who is only making friends. Right auro?

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ive been really vibing with this song all day:

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alright buddy, how do you think i'm supposed to read that interaction?

also you've played against scum me before. you know i'm capable of dragging this sort of banter spam on for 20 pages. I did it for a whole game and won. You can't honestly think I can't actually have just rolled with it

By the way I could've just ignored you the entire game with very little consequence if I really didn't think I could drag banter on. (I can.)

Wrt auro read I never claimed - and explicitly stated otherwise - that it was a strong read. I was just feeling around

I couldn't take the interaction seriously and read you with it. Now I actually have stuff to read you with. Mission accomplished

if you couldn't read me from interaction, you also made no attempt to make it readable.

i didn't say you couldn't banter and shit post with me forever, i said you found no method of making it look like a real read push, decided to go the fuck it im joking and im bored route and left. Also interesting u brought up gay dance cause that was ur best scum game that i know of

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@infinity do you have any other conclusions with ur catchup?

I think fb might be scum, his heart really doesn't feel in the chenn SR, and I think if he was town and his heart wasn't in it he probably wouldn't bother posting it.

dude. do u ever know where my heart is. real question

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No but I can tell it's not in that chenn case.

very wrong.

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who hasn't really been producing the greatest reads ever

the betrayal is real

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I townread FB ever since he posted his case on me, because to be honest, I can get the read.

go on

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Fire punching in every direction

citation

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auro u back on being paranoid of me yet or do i need to work harder

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i wasn't even trying to get infinity to be paranoid and i got him, maybe the lesson here is i need to work less at it

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im still actually iffy on u infinity but i dont know where to begin for us to have a heart to heart
how u doing anyways

@SUPER GO RELAX

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ohh let me give u the short version before i give long version:
short version is i think chennisden is exceptionally wooden for whaat he has posted. I think he has holding back emotions and got some passive aggressive when it came to me earlier in game, i tought he was being exceptionally strange in our 1v1 and i think he knew what he wanted out of that cause there was nothing he was doing to progress a read.

look at his post of 156; at tht point i think he waas trying to give too much on a read to say he had a read when he didn't haave anything. In other words tried harder to put words to postings to justify read when nothing existed. and when he dove more into it 174 i don't feel he believes u were scum originally or his interaction screams he is talking to an actual scumread.

look at his interaction with me. first few posts in this game he talked about me like he disliked me (he says he reads me by annoyance level with me); that pretty much was non-existent in our little tiff and he backed of easily. Now could u say he was just holding back, sure, its just i don't think he had any intention of using that to read me. I think he got stuck into a reactionary omgus, didn't know how to progress with that omgus because he couldn't find anything to do push or angle to take it, decided "fuck it. ill just say im joking don't care" and left it. Like it was easy to do that, and then he pretends like he had balls to do something in which he showed no courage or conviction to do while saying he was like doing something out of ordinary for someone to do.

Fire, the case seems like it could be summarised as Chennis being generally awkward/stiff and avoiding confrontation, but that isn't doing much for me - it strikes me as being NAI for Chennis. Your observations of his positions wrt you me are a little contradictory as well: if he was just going for what's easy to say and didn't want confrontation (in your case) why would he pick an arbitrary fight with me (it was initiated before thread momentum was against me). Why hold back emotions when it comes to you while emotionally reacting to me?

Do you disagree that Chennis' emotions in his interactions with me are town indicative?

i disagree with ur summation ill fire back at this tomorrow.

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sure hit me with it

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Menalque replaces Ampharos on the Mana Crypt team

^ in the main thread for team mafia

anyways lets treat that as a scum claim

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Probably

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wow i went back to see when amph came back and dkoba townreding that was really something....

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that isnt an implicit townread ?

u unvoted and then said u liked that post.

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...............

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i don't see the point in unvoting someone and pointing out u liked a post if u don't townread the person, but lets pretend in this universe u don't townread amp.
why did u decide not to get a read there if you don't have one and just decided "its a good time to relieve pressure"

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that just raises so many more questions

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I think if i really cared about getting a eliination or traction in this game. I would be annoyed by super not voting.

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I'm you didn't react to flopz vote

it would been spicier if u voted super or koba
Maybe im all spiced out.

speaking of spice out i made curry tonight was really good.

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Literally hyped for Lilith's mega wall

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does norwee have an explanation for this? he's only played one game with me and I was town so.. I have no idea where this is coming from

i can ask him if you want.

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nancy said i should locktown u forever for this much effort and im inclined to agree

lilith can effort as scum. She probably would not be able to effort in same way she just did as scum though.

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let's kill it with fire

u don't have permission to use me for this.

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Spoiler: long post reply to lilith eww content

And maybe some like, personal (and you could say petty) annoyance/resentment towards fb as a player about how he slides by in like every single game without really needing to do anything because, as I mentioned, I feel like the general consensus is “who can read fb? not me” and thus we plebes who are not so fortunate are forced to toil for our continued survival every day

Okay, to get back to the issue at hand:

Here you have looked at fb’s ISO but do not take issue with his low amount of content, but you take issue with my low amount of content

He’s in thread more than I was during this period but you still take issue with my level of content over his

The original tonal reads seemed very similar, fb is in the thread but I’m not, but you prioritize reevaluating my lack of content over his lack of content when I just... am not there to produce content

u should see all the games in which i get eliminated because people can't read me. you probably only see the games that "people let me get away with it". as if its my fault others are challenged in their ability to form a strong opinion of me. which sometimes it is, but i think i leave plenty of evidence and could write a book on how to read me, i just won't because i am not gonna help others improve reading me when i think its their job to do it.

i also 100% agree with u people reading me of tone are wrong and dumbheaded but i can't do nothing about it for ur annoyance because people gonna do it whether i tell them to or not.

also if u want to enjoy the status of the "let people let u slide" or w/e, ur gonna have to learn how to not care about how others view ur slot. Which u have yet to learn in ur mafia career. I think you see people giving me passes for not giving content and wish u get more leeway but ur not going to get that leeway till u learn that appeasing those people is always going to end up with u doing a dance in front of them to get that read u want. idk just tips for mental health.

As I’ve said, I think the reevaluation of your read on me, in a vacuum, is generally towny. The core of my issues with this reevaluation are the timing and the contrast to the reevaluation of fb. After I’d become less active, I think I probably would have seemed much more miselim-able around this time than I’d seemed when the thread originally opened and I was active. And this post came during that time. But I think infinity/auro following suit shortly after is probably worse than this. I’ll get to the contrast shortly.

i was guilty of this too, its very hard not to look back in the moment and go "who isn't here, whaat is going on, i have nothing going on who haasn't posted in awhile" and for reads to weaken dull or get forgetten. Much easier when ur just here all the time, i think u know that. Super is more in the moment player so she is going to forget so just keep reminding her when u get back.

My read on fb is that I am unable to read fb and I’m probably going to end up outsourcing this to my team because who the fuck actually knows how to read him? From what I can tell, I think the general site consensus is, and I agree with this, that he is always jokey and sarcastic and whatever chill energy vibes stuff he has going on and I don’t particularly think any of these posts are AI. I have no insight into the difference between his towngames and scumgames because they look the same to me and with the limited amount of mental energy I have, it’s just not worth trying to parse fb when it’s going to require a Herculean amount of effort to get a read that I’m like 1% confident in.

i give content out and when i do i think u can tell the alignment. don't feel like arguing the site consensus because thats pointless.
ive thought about changing my playstyle radically, you know almost not shit posts/ no sarcasm/ just plain straight to the point posting about how to solve the game.
what i got was something i hated. I hated myself, i hated everyone i played with, i was miserable and playing a game. Sure people said i was much more readable but i just didn't like it, i won't ever do thaat again. I will content when i content. end of story if people can't read it. :shrug:

On the one hand I really like this post
On the other I'm frankly shocked that fb has made a content-ful post that I agree with and think is good and am possibly slightly alarmed by it because I don't know that I was expecting to ever see eye-to-eye with fb on mafia things
Some of my team members have agreed that we like fb and we like fb's posts but have no idea what that means for his alignment. same with:

this is what i mean when i see people remember things they want to. If i had to give a rough guess. Id say my content to shitpost is a horrendous 90:10 for every 9 shit posts i put out some content. So when you are bombarded by shit. you won't remember content. We have agreed about mafia things in other games. This is not the first nor the last.

Also tell worstie hi, and datisi i want my hat.

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mena not immediately jumping in is sus btw guys

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HE IS CRAFTING HIS ULTRA EVIL ENTRANCE TO THIS GAME

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yeah if worstie isn't soulreading auro i think ur confirmed scum lilith

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i think auro/lilith/me towncore sounds good rn :3

super can join if she finds a scum for us

I found u 2 scum and u don't seem interested in either.

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i think auro/lilith/me towncore sounds good rn :3

super can join if she finds a scum for us

I found u 2 scum and u don't seem interested in either.

i dont take bribes sorry

Ill find someone who will then!

*goes up to auro*
hey auro can i bribe u with 2 scum heads?

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This town can't agree on anything. I swear if we had to vote on our favorite ice cream we would have people fighting tooth and nail over rocky road and chocolate

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i think the wagons being all over the place means we're in the ballpark of scum and we're just having trouble consolidating on 1

that means we should all agree on my wagon

I don't really disagree with the vote itself but super and infinity are both townreading flopz and I'm just like ?????????????????

interesting point.

would scum have flopz be the designated deep wolf here?
wait that assumes super is scum or infinity right.

hmm no. Maybe infinity? I am conlicted. Infinity having bad takes doesn't mean scum. Thats just bad

also auro im not sure ready to fight u one by one maybe i just need to recase chenn i don't think i detailed the case to the best of my abilities.

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i haven't made a read list so let me give an outline of feels list (shocking this took 60 pages to get to)

Super - townie she is a paranoid one who hyperfocuses and worries about her town status and thinks anyone pushing her is suspicious. She will probably filter everyone by how she thinks she will play the game rather than figuring out personality and finding deviations that would be out of ordinry
AUro - still trying to make him paranoid. He is town. He would be more convincing to myself on his reads/pushes when he is scum, he knows what people want to hear better when he is of the scum persuasion
DkKobaa - Ehhh ive just decided town because fighting this guy would be a 100 page slapfight i want no part of. Would kill my buzz. Also they push everyone. Koba not trying to make many friends here. Paranoia over super probably townie but also pretty ridiculous.
Ampharos - Not present. I don't believe their post of wanting to be scum in this setup. I think reads were pretty run of mill too.
Johnny - I don't get much from johnny posts. I get the feeling he is angry for some reason.
Infiniity - maybe im just inclined to scumread infinity. His openning, his later posts haven't screamed town but he isn't doing anything i think he might be trying to do as scum? or maybe he is and im just not seeing it from his pov very well of what he is going for. Maybe he is just trying replicate town him? No i think thats just conf biasing right now
Lilith - resposne to super waas town
Flopz - everyone saying scummy and yet i have never had a strong opinion over thinking flopz looked very involved in solving and people told me flopz posts were funny. Maybe i am not reading them enough. Or i just don't hve the same sense of humor. Anyways i thought they looked solvey but i didn't realaly think much of him earlier.

Okay so where does this leave me?

Ohh yeah chennisden is scum. How did i forget him. I should super strong case him.

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clearly super is reading from a script.

SCUMMY AS SHIT

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FB i think u are massively pocketed here.

day 1 is too early to be massively pocketed.
i am actually just extra large pocketed right now.

in order to get massive u need to have like hundred more helpings of pocket.

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koba; the koba vs super stuff got old pages ago.

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VOTE: Dkkoba

I am ready for a slap fight. Lets do this.