Amnesiac Mafia: The Movie! That's a Wrap!

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Also first

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I'm still vla will try to get caught up tomorrow

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(It appears someone here is anti-fun

I am here to play mafia, not to play wild west DND.

i am here to play wild west dnd, pardner

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p4
i don't like feysal on tone but i don't know if scum takes the discussion onto massclaiming rather than waiting for town to discuss it
dunnstral seems scummy, posts like 75 just feel forced

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p6
shea might be bad
i think this is town fb
black town

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page 13
how am i feeling

kuribo, GIF, dragoneater feel town

klick giving off weird vibes not sure what that means i think klick tries pretty hard as scum and seems a little more relaxed so

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@Dunn im resetting how i read on you after PYP

your posts here feel forced

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page 14
titus browbeating black is kind of weird

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pg 19

i like klick's sr on FA i think i can maybe agree?

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pg 20
dont like drixx

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Std wya?

california

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p24
like pink ball and kuribo
don't like shea

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list is ordered

Firebringer
Black
Kuribo

DragonEater70
Klick
GuyInFreezer

Titus
Pink Ball
Dunnstral

Feysal
BlueSnakelet

Thestatusquo
Drixx
Frozen Angel

VOTE: Frozen Angel

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i think feysal could be scum and you're more likely to be scum, not that you're necessarily scum together

i like black's posting

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let me see if i can find what first triggered it but it's mainly the vibe. i think you're kind of trying to look townie

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there's something off about your posts i can't describe it. it's more than the traditional sass/grump i expect from you

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pg 20
dont like drixx

I guess I don't like you either. Please feel free to make a list of reasons for the dislike though. Those in game who have played with me will likely be interested and it will give them things to chew on if they're even bothering to try and sort me today.

oof scummy response

VOTE: drixx

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i see we're just doubling down on condescension

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452 and 460 are scummy pop ins just to post

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i think the way you both responded to me was different?

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452 and 460 are scummy pop ins just to post

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i might have misread your tone though

VOTE: frozen angel

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first

again

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i still think drixx is scummy i guess

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im sorry that i'm scum reading you shea but i think there's something there i got to explore

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i know but it sounded like he was affected by it

i'm a very vibey player and i sort of play by sense of smell, i don't really make cases and if i do they're pretty shoddy because the truth is i kind of go with my gut

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i like it because i think people get annoyed by it, especially scum. i feel like drixx's response is a little more "caught for the wrong reasons" than shea's

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VOTE: feysal

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1 feysal (STD)

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i'm thinking i could be wrong on shea

maybe

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feysal's posts sound rehearsed like they're highly edited (i.e. someone carefully crafting them because they're scum and not trying to say something that would give it away)

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but i'm also willing to vote frozen angel :thumbs up emoji:

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VOTE: Frozen angel

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but i'm also willing to vote feysal :thumbs up emoji:

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shea how do you feel about FA

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Shea, I'm going to look into Fey/dragon/FB. If I can't get around to it

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look she crumbed town here

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why does xof like drixx?

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you got me

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i dunno

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get better soon

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i will take that into consideration, but i'm also thinking about word choice and such in a way that seems carefully crafted specifically because you're trying to look town

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Blue, got any other thoughts?

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Kowah thinks drixx is scummy and kind of a neutral read on feysal. I can elaborate on those if people want. I asked him to look at those two people.

Korina mentioned something about DE being town and FB being scummy but I think they've only read a few pages so far.

I will tell ceph he smells esp because he hasn't posted any thoughts yet.

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Ceph says he smells like roses and cream

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I literally will explain it if asked I said

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I meant Kowahs read

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You may interact with them through me if you want

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Seems like you'd rather shake me down for a reason other than vibes and posts I didn't like of yours than hear what kowah had to say about you

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my biggest problem with my scumreads is feysal and FA seem unaligned because they seem in lock step together against DE so i'm probably wrong somewhere

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@Drixx - ceph finds you scummy too lmao

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Why do you scumread me @Save The Dragons over the people you actually engaged with/talked about who you offered scumread on to the point of advertising wagoning me like that?

i'll be honest, my vote on you was partially a reaction test to see what you'd do.

if you engaged with me +town as you've done that in a game under an alt
if you challenged me +scum as you've done that in a game as scum (Cosmos)

im still stewing on the result for certain but you pretty much did the first one

the biggest reason i sr you is because i tr klick and believed his case. the other thing is your posts seem calculated and a little performative.

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why is that post scummy in your opinion?

it looks like it's trying to see if there's room for a STD wagon. i think i misread it at first as more discredity than it actually is (which i find to be a pretty strong scumtell) but it's got hints of that.

A lot of Drixx's engagement with me almost seems like toeing the line to vote me but without actually doing so it looks like he's holding back because there's no one else who's going to bite.

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i do feel like dragoneater was half the posts in the weird dreams game and here he is noticeably absent

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VOTE: drixx

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VOTE: drixx

Can I has reasons this time?

You smell fishy

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Were they? I don't think the comment about FA not faking rage was relevant as I think people were asking about whether FA would be upset as scum. I don't know what +1ing to kuribo being ragey was supposed to accomplish either other than trying to be relevant

I agree with drixx's post about DE's progression on FB and Dunn being weird but I don't think it's particularly AI

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I think Drixx cares about the things Drixx cares about and doesn't care what you think about them

Definitely did not get this impression lol

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I don't really find PB to be scummy

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Can you tell me why I took a huge dip in your reads I'm curious

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I think you're missing the point

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I too have experienced kuribos wrath and didn't feel like I needed to comment on it for instance so your response almost feels overexplainy. I might just be confirmbiased at this point tho

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It doesn't have to be srs bzns it's about posting to increase thread presence

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That was pretty scummy

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Black can you outline why you scumread pink ball

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I agree black deflected the question but I also agree that koba asking about FB is kinda weird

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I was talking about your post

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It just looks like you're scapegoat is Bella who is hard to hold accountable in this game since she's not playing and klick is not involved so you don't necessarily have to do anything with him if you mislim PB. Like scum keeping options open.

It also looks like you're giving yourself an out to keep voting PB even if he does what you asked him to.

It's why I wanted to know more about your progression. I think it makes more sense with that. But in the moment it looked scummy and I wanted to bookmark it.

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Not mafia together

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roughly ordered

Black
Titus
Pink Ball
Klick
Thestatusquo
Dunnstral

Frozen Angel
Firebringer

Kuribo
GuyInFreezer
DragonEater70

Feysal

BlueSnakelet
Drixx

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I changed my mind on black

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I found her responses to me townie

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I also think I put feysal too low

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I feel lonely on the drixx wagon and want company

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Ok do people not think drixxs posts can easily come from scum

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Holy shit its dragoneater

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Ok do people not think drixxs posts can easily come from scum

Do you think drixxs frustration with you felt fake? Especially around here:

Drixx out of curiosity what are you trying to accomplish?

I know that std is trying to accomplish. He's trying to annoy you, and he's succeeding.

But your motives in this little exchange are a mystery to me. I don't think you actually believe you're going to get more out of std than this.

Suppose I'm roped today or killed tonight and then you know for sure I'm town. How does STD look then? Town should never refuse to explain reads because in any future where their alignment is confirmed, their thought process is on display to help their team.

At the moment there's also nothing else to engage with sadly.

Also ... I'm not annoyed, I promise.

I'm interested because you described your posting style earlier as like...pretty calculated. Every post you make has a purpose, or whatever you said.

And I guess I can see the purpose you're describing here as one you might legitimately have.

But if that is indeed your purpose I don't think it's going to work.

I also think you're being a bit uncharitable because I think STD has explained himself wrt his read on you. You don't find that explanation satisfactory I understand but it seems like you're trying to map a playstyle onto STD that he simply does not have and in doing so you're talking past him in a way that doesn't seem likely to gain information about his alignment.

I guess I think its more likely than not that you are genuine in what you're doing right now but if you are I think you'd be better served finding a different tree to bark up. Or at least buy a ladder.

I get that you'll probably say that its scum being frustrated with you righteously scum reading them or whatever but I think if you were observing your interactions from another player instead of as your own posting you would feel differently.

Why does it have to be fake for drixx to be scum

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Like being annoyed I didn't give a lot of reasoning for him to respond to is pretty NAI because either way he could dislike it

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Shea why do you tr it it's nai

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I don't find that first paragraph to be accurate

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Drixx is happy to paint me as a reason not giver but seems uninterested in why my team is also scumreading him

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Can you tell me why I took a huge dip in your reads I'm curious

My initial reaction to your posting early on was 'yeah that's about right for town!STD' and now I'm wondering if that was going far too easy on you
Bella and I agree that your last few catchup takes on the game have been really surprisingly safe and it doesn't feel like your engagement with the thread pushes far past 'this is what I need to post to be in a decent position'

I'm skeptical that you're not town but it's still not anything substantial and I don't think pressuring you on it atm is the right way of going about it

There's another player further up in my reads that I've been feeling kinda similarly about but I don't want to alarm them so don't tell them pls ty

I'm sorry which of my takes has been safe

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It was mostly your reads lists and the content immediately preceding them

list is ordered

Firebringer
Black
Kuribo

DragonEater70
Klick
GuyInFreezer

Titus
Pink Ball
Dunnstral

Feysal
BlueSnakelet

Thestatusquo
Drixx
Frozen Angel

VOTE: Frozen Angel

Bella told me this looked safe really early on, and I was like 'yeah but STD's town'

But then we both felt that again the next time

roughly ordered

Black
Titus
Pink Ball
Klick
Thestatusquo
Dunnstral

Frozen Angel
Firebringer

Kuribo
GuyInFreezer
DragonEater70

Feysal

BlueSnakelet
Drixx

Drixx, Blue, Feysal, Dragon, GIF are literally like, the LHF in this game

I'm aware that my list is fairly similar to yours but that doesn't really take away from the point

No

Saying shea was scummy early was not safe

Drixx and feysal are not low hanging fruit maybe gif and snake are but do you really think there's no scum in low hanging fruit

Sorry that's messed up

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I know it's 4/20 but I want whatever you're on

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To back that up I think only FA and I expressed any sort of negative read on drixx while shea and Titus (through xof) expressed trs

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Cephy gave a readslist and the only scumread on it was drixx

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I think this is tvtvtvtvt

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@anyone

Thoughts on drixx?

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I will try to write a succinct case when I get to a computer

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And if I flip town?

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Jfc discredit me and my team more

Your tears sustain me

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You: I find you scummy
Me: and if I'm town?

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Ad hom me more

Scum have never done that when they're like "I don't like the argument std is making"

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Like seriously I'm biased but this is exactly how scum in the last team mafia i played treated me they called me bad and I caught them for it. I've seen it happen in other games too. They get pissy they can't attack the argument so they attack the player in an attempt to discredit.

Drixx is scum for this reason

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You need a chill pill

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That was a God damn case

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That's ducking evidence

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I'll point the games if you want scum did the exact same thing you're doing right now

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But don't get pissed at me cuz you got caught

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Why haven't you voted me

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It has nothing to do with the slip. You should read again but don't worry I won't call you bad for not reading correctly

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Oo more ad hom

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Why don't you just keep insulting me that'll prove your point that's facts and logic right?

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You doing the exact same thing scum has done to me numerous times is not logic?

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Shea I expect better from you

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I don't think that is true

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Drixx

You're the one ad homing me

I'm the one who provided a case

Who is being awful here

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It pisses me off that I'm here trying to keep cool and someone is telling me I'm bad and I should fuck off and somehow I'm seen as equal or lesser to them

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I'm not reading any more from drixx and I'm out of here

Ffs people look at the way I'm being treated vs the way I'm treating drixx

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This is scum shutting me down cuz they can't handle they've been caught without a case to refute

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@anyone

Thoughts on drixx?

im still kinda waiting for an answer here i feel a lot of people have avoided drixx

i mean if drixx is just town and i could be wrong that's fine it doesn't make me bad it just means i'm wrong on drixx

but i'm not getting a lot of feedback

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drixx if it's cool with you i'm gonna keep doing what i'm doing and you can just ignore me that would be great

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Also first

My posts on page 1 for reference

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You're also not giving very much.

Here's a sample of what i have on drixx:

452 and 460 are scummy pop ins just to post

i like it because i think people get annoyed by it, especially scum. i feel like drixx's response is a little more "caught for the wrong reasons" than shea's

Were they? I don't think the comment about FA not faking rage was relevant as I think people were asking about whether FA would be upset as scum. I don't know what +1ing to kuribo being ragey was supposed to accomplish either other than trying to be relevant

I agree with drixx's post about DE's progression on FB and Dunn being weird but I don't think it's particularly AI

I think Drixx cares about the things Drixx cares about and doesn't care what you think about them

Definitely did not get this impression lol

It doesn't have to be srs bzns it's about posting to increase thread presence

Ok do people not think drixxs posts can easily come from scum

Why does it have to be fake for drixx to be scum

Like being annoyed I didn't give a lot of reasoning for him to respond to is pretty NAI because either way he could dislike it

Drixx is happy to paint me as a reason not giver but seems uninterested in why my team is also scumreading him

Cephy gave a readslist and the only scumread on it was drixx

Like seriously I'm biased but this is exactly how scum in the last team mafia i played treated me they called me bad and I caught them for it. I've seen it happen in other games too. They get pissy they can't attack the argument so they attack the player in an attempt to discredit.

Drixx is scum for this reason

You doing the exact same thing scum has done to me numerous times is not logic?

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So in conclusion, maybe everyone can move off of the false narrative and will misreps that i'm not casing drixx

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*willful

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i'm probably only voting Ircher or Drixx at this point

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i don't think you said anything new there other than you still don't like the fact that i voted you for your posts 452 and 460 and then decided you were scum based on the way you acted

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GIF doesn't look great but also said they were moving

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i would want ircher

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blue snake did nothing of importance

ircher came in with a really shitty attack on me

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i could probably do GIF tbh too if i think about it but i'd rather wait for more. have the same feeling with kuribo

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moving is an extensive process

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i think some of kuribo's content is pretty NAI and he got tr for it

i do like this sudden passion for Ircher though ngl not sure where it comes from but it's cool

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kuribo just feels a little different from the anything upick where he was obvtown is my biggest problem

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I also think I put feysal too low

i don't feel feysal atm

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I also think I put feysal too low

i don't feel feysal atm

Didn't see that, thanks! What did make you change your mind about Feysal?

i don't exactly remember but i think looking at their posts through the correct lens helped a bit. i think also there was a shower thought that went back to why suggest a massclaim p6 as scum

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can you calm down i'm taking that into consideration

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i want more content from you to determine your alignment is all because in the pick game you were easy to spot as town and here you're not\

i'm not saying you're 100% scum based on my feels man

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i think i'm suddenly not interested in ircher or kuribo atm

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i want more content from you to determine your alignment is all because in the pick game you were easy to spot as town and here you're not\

i'm not saying you're 100% scum based on my feels man

Alright buddy, here's your content

Pretend I have a gun pointed at your head right now, tell me where you'd tell me to point it instead

If you answer "ircher," it's you.

i think it's pretty obvious i'd do drixx

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VOTE: GIF

happy birthday here's your pressure

i mean present

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titus is also voting GIF

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drixx i appreciate the bridge i'm not always right on my reads. perhaps you will appreciate this paraphrasing of my read on you, i'm not trying to stir shit up at the moment, i am content pressuring GIF for now.

kuribo, since you asked,

my problem with drixx arose when i saw a couple of posts of theirs that looked a lot like scum just kind of popping in to produce content. it's something kowahbunga noticed as well when i asked him to iso dive drixx. but i kept a lot of my thoughts to myself and gave kind of a vague case, i didn't post a logic and facts TM wall that people of the 2010s liked. i didn't want to just post stuff that drixx would have a convenient answer to (which drixx had for the minimal stuff i did present), i wanted to see what he would do under pressure.

when presented with my vague case against drixx, drixx proceeded to ad hom me in a way that Thor666 did in Team mafia 2015. Thor666 was scum trying to discredit my read on him. This has happened to me numerous other times, people deciding they don't like the fact i'm scumreading them so they present arguments that i am stupid or bad and not worth listening to. this is a reliable scumtell i have used so if drixx is town and ad homming he is caught in something that reliably catches scum for me and should be able to understand that.

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What do you think of Drixx's attack on me?

i dunno i guess you guys have some history i don't know

i don't find you particularly scummy but i also don't know if this attack is particularly painting anything regarding my read on drixx.

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i used to be like that i used to post walls and shit

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STD was the mod of my first newbie game iirc.

That was in 2006.

i also modded cephrir's first newbie game

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VOTE: klick

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you've been on my mind since our exchange earlier

something feels weird

cephy doesn't seem to think GIF is scum

change of pace

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Ok!
The feeling is mutual fwiw

yeah see i'm not sure i buy this

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why

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hmm

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i don't really think i'm reserved?

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i feel like klick's progression on me is a lot more vague than my progression on drixx

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I SEE StD ON WILL I GET THE LEGENDARY FENRIR TO ENGAGE WITH TODAY

Hi

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I'm still here

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I dunno if black is scum

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Maybe you should sheep me

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I'll be your volleyball

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I'll be your volleyball

So Fenrir, do you feel you have that magical sparkle in your eyes that i should sheep you

I like my klick scumread and I want to explore this new relationship with my klick scumread but I'm not ready to get married to my klick scumread yet

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Meanwhile I’m gonna add std to my townlist

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korina thinks klick is town but odd at points and ceph i think just thinks klick is town so :/ im losing my taste for it

i'd rather do klick or drixx than black or dragoneater. cephy thinks pink ball's case on de is the best thing in the game but i'm not as convinced. cephy and i both hate the black wagon

if klick picks up i might go back but for now

VOTE: drixx

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What happened to your teams read on drixx

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What happened to your teams read on drixx

I got distracted by FA, will get to analyzing Drixx shortly.

I'm more concerned you said your team sr drixx but drixx doesn't appear on the readlist you worked on with your team

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I think you can be posty and behind

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I guess I see it as a playstyle thing

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Black I know you're busy but can you case drixx for me even one or two sentences would be fine. You can add it to the bottom of your todo list if you like I'm in no hurry

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I dunno. Dayvig makes no mech sense in this setup so I'm not weighing the reaction too heavily

But I buy it for now. I'll ask my team what they think of drixxs reaction.

UNVOTE:

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am i the only one shocked fake day vig reacts is still a thing. i feel its an overplayed mafia staple that we should have moved past by now

The thing is drixx basically said his team was absent and I think they're all 4 of them older school players anyway and may not have seen many fake dayvig gambits

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On the other paw I'm not a mech guy at all and it took me 2 seconds to figure out a day confirmable role makes no sense in this setup and anyone who freely uses the word moron probably is somewhat smart enough to figure this out too

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What's the tattoo of

I'm getting one soon I'm so excited

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Ooo neat that's a big one

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Congrats on 100 pages guys and gals and enby pals

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I think I'm also willing to vote de at this point

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How do I get scum points from fb

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I think I posted all the hot cephy goss

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If de flips red I'll listen to cephy always
If de flips green I'll never listen to him again

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Intent

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If de flips red I'll listen to cephy always
If de flips green I'll never listen to him again

I would never trust that raccoon/pumba
+10 scum points to StD

Yesssssss

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also first

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allllll by myself

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I don't think scum get the lover/pt part

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im not interested in kuribo or ircher today

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i could vote klick

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i could vote klick

But can you touch ur toes

no :<

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very buttery caterpillar?

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voluptuous boyfriend catcher?

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ohhhhh

welp i guess i just claimed pr lol

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are we or are we not claiming d1 roles

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i think it could be helpful to know what's out there but i also can see hiding info from scum as an argument. the problem is by d3-d4 scum will have had many of the roles anyway in circulation, so is it better to wait until then when they already know?

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i suck at mech don't listen to me just tell me what to do lol

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VOTE: klick

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I used my action last night

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I used my action last night

did you have fun

Yes

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I'm kind of pro claiming after talking with my team but I can understand the fear

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I think I'm possibly one of the worst crumb picker uppers on the site

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UNVOTE:

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Titus why no night action

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Ugh I want to do this privately

Whisper in my ear

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Then we are a false positive match

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Is it possible there's similar flavor between distinct roles

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Yeah I'm super confused

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I'm not sure how anyone can look at these last few pages and go "yep there's a clear scum agenda from Titus posts"

I'm not sure there's a clear agenda period

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Help I'm bored at work someone do something scummy

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Or someone suggest who to claim maybe?

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I like shorts they're comfy and easy to wear

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I heard they gave that rattata max ivs and evs so it's actually true

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I dunno if that's like a well known thing or a "my dad works at Nintendo" thing

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Don't worry only 20 mins til I can go home and stop shit posting