Amnesiac Mafia: The Movie! That's a Wrap!

GuyInFreezer · Thu May 04, 2023 5:36 pm

Unfortunately I can’t self target because motivating myself to reread this game could be useful

GuyInFreezer · Fri May 05, 2023 12:10 am

GIF as someone in POE why didnt you ask/hint town to not target you?

Because that list was black’s PoE reads provided upon being asked, not a list of peeps to target from.

GuyInFreezer · Fri May 05, 2023 12:11 am

In post 4556, Black wrote:
In post 4553, Pink Ball wrote:
In post 4552, Black wrote: So let's yeet Klick and see what happens?
Still waiting for your PoE

FB
FA
Titus
GiF
Klick

GuyInFreezer · Fri May 05, 2023 2:46 am

In post 4896, Klick wrote: Show me a single game in the last like 3 years where a Cop-equivalent chose to target their strongest scumread and I'll self-vote

viewtopic.php?t=89826#top

Selfvote please

GuyInFreezer · Fri May 05, 2023 2:47 am

(Joking aside, who cop scans is based on their play style so)

GuyInFreezer · Fri May 05, 2023 3:06 am

In post 4809, Firebringer wrote: GIf i can appreciate the gambit game. But I don't think anyone is taking any of it seriously

That’s actually the best moment to trueclaim

GuyInFreezer · Fri May 05, 2023 3:06 am

Like how I trueclaimed in DS that I was a doctor who was on Ranger

GuyInFreezer · Fri May 05, 2023 3:14 am

Also from what I’ve seen newer the player is more likely for them to cop check their scumreads

GuyInFreezer · Fri May 05, 2023 3:20 am

I think if Klick is scum, caterer going to FB isn’t the reason.

With no real crumb, it is also very likely that her teammate told her to choose the first name in that list in case stuff like this happen.

GuyInFreezer · Fri May 05, 2023 3:28 am

Also Dunn mentioned one of the scumteam could’ve gotten the thing and had FB to claim it. I think it is more likely for scum to just not claim it in that case since they could just blame things on Klick (assuming Klick town).

GuyInFreezer · Fri May 05, 2023 3:32 am

In post 4813, Frozen Angel wrote: so FB got the caterer and the original owner of role died?

My mind is not really in game like the rest of you, but why would scum kill black if they couldn't use that for a gambit/fake clearing themself attempt? Black seems like a very weird choice of kill tbh

Do I want to fall for this?

GuyInFreezer · Fri May 05, 2023 6:59 am

In post 4929, Klick wrote: I'm inclined to believe that FA genuinely doesn't understand the wider implications of the Caterer role?

And if scum killed Black surely the Caterer role would’ve been the hot topic in scum PT ain’t it

GuyInFreezer · Fri May 05, 2023 7:35 am

In post 4937, Klick wrote:
In post 4934, GuyInFreezer wrote:
In post 4929, Klick wrote: I'm inclined to believe that FA genuinely doesn't understand the wider implications of the Caterer role?
And if scum killed Black surely the Caterer role would’ve been the hot topic in scum PT ain’t it
I agree

Is it viable that FA would not be keeping up with the scum PT?

Even if she can’t keep up herself her teammates could keep her posted

GuyInFreezer · Fri May 05, 2023 9:07 am

In post 4954, Pink Ball wrote:
In post 4952, Klick wrote: Explain how you interpreted Black's post then
"If you had my role on D1 I can conftown you", not "If you had my role on D1 I'm conftown to you"

This is how I originally thought she meant too.
#NonNativeEnglishSpeakerGang

GuyInFreezer · Fri May 05, 2023 11:09 am

Either way what I meant back there was “do I want to treat this dum- uninformed-tell as towntell” so

GuyInFreezer · Fri May 05, 2023 12:36 pm

My

scum

teammate is telling me that she’s getting hella cold feet on Klick wagon. She has Drixx TSQ FA Dunn as PoE. That looks like what people have as PoE in general so that must mean she’s playing this game better than I am currently

GuyInFreezer · Fri May 05, 2023 12:40 pm

Adorable

GuyInFreezer · Fri May 05, 2023 12:48 pm

In post 4990, kuribo wrote:
In post 4987, GuyInFreezer wrote: Adorable
Aw thanks boo but I was asking what teammate

No literally
Mafiascum user named Adorable

GuyInFreezer · Fri May 05, 2023 12:52 pm

In post 4989, Pink Ball wrote:
In post 4985, GuyInFreezer wrote: Klick wagon. She has Drixx TSQ FA Dunn as PoE.
I know this two statements are unrelated, but Klick's wagon has none of those players on it

I’ll let her know and see what she tells me

GuyInFreezer · Fri May 05, 2023 1:01 pm

In post 4994, Thestatusquo wrote: What is kuribo a girl under the age of 25 or something?

Do you believe in magic in a young girls heart
How the magic can free her whenever it starts

GuyInFreezer · Fri May 05, 2023 1:32 pm

You forgot to quote for ping

GuyInFreezer · Fri May 05, 2023 4:01 pm

In post 5027, Pink Ball wrote: Not particularly defending, but both StD and GiF have said they're having cold feet about Klick

Technically my teammate did.
I, just feel atm... indifferent? I'm keep drifting towards "defend mechtown from alternative suggestions" mode.

GuyInFreezer · Fri May 05, 2023 4:13 pm

Are we still doing massclaiming btw

GuyInFreezer · Fri May 05, 2023 4:14 pm

In post 5051, Firebringer wrote:
In post 5049, GuyInFreezer wrote: Are we still doing massclaiming btw
U going to admit ur not a commuter yet

I can tell you that I'm not a commuter today.

GuyInFreezer · Fri May 05, 2023 4:14 pm

In post 5052, Thestatusquo wrote:
In post 5048, Firebringer wrote: who is bussing out of PB/Kuribo/Shea/Ircher
I think you know I am not buying pbs clear sooooo.

If you're not then I'll double buy it for you.

GuyInFreezer · Fri May 05, 2023 4:17 pm

In post 5055, Firebringer wrote: YOU ARE NEVER COMMUTER

But Drixx confirmed my role for me as a commuter.
Eventually you'll just have to suck it up and just take it.

GuyInFreezer · Fri May 05, 2023 4:20 pm

In post 5057, Firebringer wrote:
In post 5056, GuyInFreezer wrote:
In post 5055, Firebringer wrote: YOU ARE NEVER COMMUTER
But Drixx confirmed my role for me as a commuter.
Eventually you'll just have to suck it up and just take it.
I reject that.
Ur both making shit up.
If the mod came in here and said ur a commuter. Then the mod lies.
NEVER BELIEVE A GIF COMMUTER

Eventually you'll have to move to phase 2.

GuyInFreezer · Fri May 05, 2023 4:21 pm

btw FB wanna see a magic trick?
Try voting Klick.

GuyInFreezer · Fri May 05, 2023 4:21 pm

Wait actually no.
Kuribo promised something big.
Magic trick will have to wait.

GuyInFreezer · Fri May 05, 2023 4:26 pm

In post 5061, Firebringer wrote: GIf encouraging me to rush a day is such a different GIF from month ago lol

idk what you mean by rushing a day. I merely offered to show you a magic trick :^)

GuyInFreezer · Fri May 05, 2023 4:34 pm

Fiiiiiine

VOTE: Klick

Vote2: Klick

See y'all D4.

GuyInFreezer · Fri May 05, 2023 4:35 pm

I thought we were at E-3 but apparently we were at E-2

GuyInFreezer · Fri May 05, 2023 4:40 pm

In post 5074, Firebringer wrote:
In post 5069, GuyInFreezer wrote: I thought we were at E-3 but apparently we were at E-2
Not gonna fool me. I know its E-1

It's real.
My flavor name is Overly-motivated Diva.
That motivator jingo was my flavor crumb.

GuyInFreezer · Fri May 05, 2023 4:41 pm

It specifically requires me to make the Vote2 vote btw. I think scum had this role because nobody used this ever.

GuyInFreezer · Fri May 05, 2023 4:52 pm

Thanks. I can hear raving from team discord and scum PT atm.

GuyInFreezer · Fri May 05, 2023 4:54 pm

In post 5080, Pink Ball wrote: Where did everybody go.

GiF does a cool magic trick and everyone disappears all of a sudden.

...wait a minute, is this part of the magic trick? GiF HOW

I ate them

GuyInFreezer · Fri May 05, 2023 4:57 pm

For a long time.

GuyInFreezer · Fri May 05, 2023 5:11 pm

I had to spit him out cos he was a ball of shea salt.

GuyInFreezer · Fri May 05, 2023 5:13 pm

I was always bad with name pronunciation

Like how do I say Elle? Why is Sean not Sean???

GuyInFreezer · Fri May 05, 2023 5:15 pm

In post 5090, Pink Ball wrote: Hold up a fucking minute

p-edit oh thank fucking god thanks for the clarification I thought I pronounced it wrong this whole time

In post 5091, Thestatusquo wrote:Shay.

HOW DID YOU MANAGE TO POST BEFORE TSQ WITH P-EDIT???

GuyInFreezer · Fri May 05, 2023 5:16 pm

In post 5095, Thestatusquo wrote: We were talking about it in our scum PT.

Fucking gottem

GuyInFreezer · Fri May 05, 2023 5:17 pm

Not the image way. Hard G.

GuyInFreezer · Fri May 05, 2023 5:21 pm

In post 5100, Thestatusquo wrote: the image is also pronounced with a hard G.

.gif is actually pronounced with soft G because that's how the creator of the extension wants it to be called.

GuyInFreezer · Fri May 05, 2023 5:31 pm

In post 5103, Thestatusquo wrote:
In post 5102, GuyInFreezer wrote:
In post 5100, Thestatusquo wrote: the image is also pronounced with a hard G.
.gif is actually pronounced with soft G because that's how the creator of the extension wants it to be called.
Just because he created the file format he does not get to define how the english language works.

I thought proper nouns get this weird thing where the creator gets to decide how it's pronounced. It's been a long time ago since I looked into this. Maybe it was just a preference.

GuyInFreezer · Fri May 05, 2023 5:33 pm

I see. I'm gonna go back to calling it with hard G then. It felt better to me that way.

GuyInFreezer · Fri May 05, 2023 5:35 pm

In post 5106, kuribo wrote: Choosy moms choose gif

Sorry I'm not into mi-
Oh you meant that ad phrase thing.

GuyInFreezer · Fri May 05, 2023 5:37 pm

Next time you're going to tell me that the plural of shelf is shelves!

GuyInFreezer · Fri May 05, 2023 5:41 pm

In post 5122, Pink Ball wrote: YOU AIN’T NOTHING BUT A HOUND DOG!!

GuyInFreezer · Fri May 05, 2023 5:42 pm

In post 5123, Thestatusquo wrote: Man everyone is going to be so mad at us tomorrow morning.

If the thread isn't locked by then.

GuyInFreezer · Fri May 05, 2023 5:48 pm

In post 5128, Thestatusquo wrote: I don't know why you're holding back on using your second double vote.

Because that will result in catastrophe!
Cats and dogs will rain from the sky.
Rain and thunder everywhere.
Gas price will go down by a whole dollar.
etc.

GuyInFreezer · Fri May 05, 2023 5:55 pm

Better than where I used to invest
In graphing calculators

GuyInFreezer · Fri May 05, 2023 5:56 pm

I used to have TI graphing calculator collection from TI-81 to all 3 models of nspires. And then I sold them because I needed $$$.

GuyInFreezer · Fri May 05, 2023 5:59 pm

I sold them for $500 to a fellow calculator enthusiast

Still regret that to this day tbh

GuyInFreezer · Fri May 05, 2023 6:02 pm

In post 5142, Thestatusquo wrote: are they worth way more now? Why can't you buy them back?

Just not interested in them anymore
I’m p sure buying them back will cost me over $1,000 anyway.

GuyInFreezer · Fri May 05, 2023 6:03 pm

Btw if you want to see an interesting looking TI calculator look up voyage 200. And then wonder why that is called a calculator.

GuyInFreezer · Fri May 05, 2023 6:16 pm

Never tried it.
You can run a gameboy game in TI-84+ SE though.
With sound.

GuyInFreezer · Mon May 08, 2023 5:31 am

Ircher Kuribo conftown
PB conftown

TSQ 98% town

If I’m correct above
One of Drixx/STD has to be town and they’re not S/S looking at D1 interaction.

VOTE: Dunn

I optimally prefer to be the martyr today just because I’m one of the unconfirmed, but I’m p much done with solves at this point.

GuyInFreezer · Mon May 08, 2023 5:34 am

I guess I could look at Drixx/STD in the meantime
But my vote ain’t moving today unless FA has the biggest wagon. I won’t be voting myself but I do accept my wagon today as well. NGL I really had a rough start with rl issue from the beginning and I’m prob gonna botch things in ELo so

GuyInFreezer · Mon May 08, 2023 5:37 am

UNVOTE:

GuyInFreezer · Mon May 08, 2023 5:37 am

In post 5200, Dunnstral wrote: How do you know we are not in Elo GiF?

Do you really think there would be 4 mafia in 15p

GuyInFreezer · Mon May 08, 2023 5:46 am

In post 5209, Pink Ball wrote: GiF I was sure you randed lover yesterday for fucks sake

Nah I was VT

GuyInFreezer · Mon May 08, 2023 5:50 am

In post 5217, Save The Dragons wrote: gif why are you conftown the lovers

Because they rolled it in the day where there would be least amount of scum manipulation?

GuyInFreezer · Mon May 08, 2023 5:51 am

Kuribo/Ircher/PB/Black thing all happened during the time where scum had the least info to mess with stuff.

GuyInFreezer · Mon May 08, 2023 5:52 am

In post 5228, Thestatusquo wrote: I mean fmpov kuribo is now double conf town which confirms the lovers are real and conf towns ircher as well.

I was gonna say this

GuyInFreezer · Mon May 08, 2023 5:54 am

In post 5227, Dunnstral wrote: Kuribo/Ircher was completely seperate from PB/Black, why are you rolling them together?

They happened between D1 ~ D2.
Like there was no way scum knew about caterer role then.
Black flipped town.

GuyInFreezer · Mon May 08, 2023 5:59 am

Also let me just say faking visionary result is a suicide because all it takes is for someone to go “but I visited tsq where my action????”

GuyInFreezer · Mon May 08, 2023 6:02 am

In post 5245, Save The Dragons wrote: I
HAVE
NOT
ACCUSED
SHEA
OF
FAKING
VISIONARY

i am gathering information

That to me? Because if you’re considering the world where Kuribo/ircher/tsq are scum together that means they must’ve coordinated the fake visionary result.

GuyInFreezer · Mon May 08, 2023 6:09 am

In post 5257, Save The Dragons wrote:
In post 5250, GuyInFreezer wrote:
In post 5245, Save The Dragons wrote: I
HAVE
NOT
ACCUSED
SHEA
OF
FAKING
VISIONARY

i am gathering information
That to me? Because if you’re considering the world where Kuribo/ircher/tsq are scum together that means they must’ve coordinated the fake visionary result.
exploring a possibility is vastly different then accusing someone of faking a visionary result

Exploring the possibility of those scumteam means assumption of faked visionary by tsq. Like, no overreaching. Just a simple “If A then B.”
And I’m saying that possibility is very thin because it would be a really dumb gambit, especially right out of the blue without massclaim of last day’s role.

GuyInFreezer · Mon May 08, 2023 6:10 am

Like a simple claim of “but I also visited tsq” outs them all.

GuyInFreezer · Mon May 08, 2023 6:35 am

Anyway in the world I’m living in, I’m town, Kuribo/Ircher/PB town and TSQ is 98% confirmed town. And I’m not the type who goes “but that 2% chance.”

If I assume 4 scum… then yeah.

GuyInFreezer · Mon May 08, 2023 6:37 am

Even if TSQ is that 2% scum, then I’d think there is a town in STD/Drixx because I find it hard to see their D1 interaction S/S. (Which is one more reason why I don’t think 4 scum btw).

I honestly don’t see myself voting someone outside of FA/Dunn today.

GuyInFreezer · Mon May 08, 2023 6:39 am

It’s actually literally “others are just townier” for me.

GuyInFreezer · Mon May 08, 2023 6:50 am

I don’t mind having a longer day. Y’all have fun and whatnot.
It’s just that I don’t think my stance will change this day unless something spectacular happens.

GuyInFreezer · Mon May 08, 2023 6:51 am

I also didn’t really intend to have a fast day like that yesterday. I intentionally picked the timeframe where Klick would be active before T-Bone to see if Klick would react before T-bone posts VC or after. What I didn’t expect was a self-hammer as town.

GuyInFreezer · Mon May 08, 2023 7:00 am

I mean yeah the game state rn would be harder for conftowns than non-confirmed.

GuyInFreezer · Mon May 08, 2023 7:01 am

In post 5272, Save The Dragons wrote:
In post 5266, Pink Ball wrote: Only by play, this is how I'm at right now:

GiF
Dunn
FA
Drixx
StD

If this is ELo, I don't mind voting any of the last four. Off chance this is MELo/not ELo I'd rather have a longer day.
does this really sound like the scum team that's managed to keep out of the crosshairs and lead town on mislims

Why do they have to be? It makes complete sense for scum to just sideline things while town go gung-ho against Titus and Klick.

GuyInFreezer · Mon May 08, 2023 7:30 am

What’s a gravedigger

GuyInFreezer · Mon May 08, 2023 7:44 am

I already claimed all my previous roles actually.

N1 - vanilla
N2 - commuter
N3 - vanilla

GuyInFreezer · Mon May 08, 2023 7:44 am

D N whatever

GuyInFreezer · Mon May 08, 2023 7:48 am

Btw claim flavors too please

GuyInFreezer · Mon May 08, 2023 8:09 am

Sussy?

GuyInFreezer · Mon May 08, 2023 11:58 am

So I’m beginning to think scum doesn’t have a roleblocker
Why did scum let TSQ get the role?
I’m actually leaning that scum couldn’t.

GuyInFreezer · Mon May 08, 2023 11:59 am

Couldn’t prevent, I mean

GuyInFreezer · Mon May 08, 2023 12:31 pm

In post 5422, Pink Ball wrote:
In post 5416, Dunnstral wrote: If Save The Dragons is mafia then they really did rand those roles though; be it a power role or VBC.
You think the vig is real?

That’s why I asked for flavor but alas I was shut down

GuyInFreezer · Mon May 08, 2023 12:34 pm

I just don’t have the big stick required.

GuyInFreezer · Mon May 08, 2023 12:55 pm

Idk I’m more interested in STD’s N2 result.

GuyInFreezer · Mon May 08, 2023 1:30 pm

In post 5445, Pink Ball wrote:
In post 5444, GuyInFreezer wrote: Idk I’m more interested in STD’s N2 result.
You mean the lack of it?

Ye.
Cos I don't think scum has roleblock.

GuyInFreezer · Mon May 08, 2023 10:46 pm

So PB tracked TSQ, confirming him to 100% town.
So unless all of PB/TSQ/Kuribo/Ircher is in cahoot together, then… yeah.

GuyInFreezer · Mon May 08, 2023 10:47 pm

Can I vote now

GuyInFreezer · Mon May 08, 2023 10:53 pm

In post 5497, GuyInFreezer wrote: So PB tracked TSQ, confirming him to 100% town.
So unless all of PB/TSQ/Kuribo/Ircher is in cahoot together, then… yeah.

99% I meant. STD is excluded for me today just because of that spicy track result. There is non-zero chance that scum has some sort of role manipulation and if so that could be tsq. Or this could be 3-scum and STD and TSQ could just be town.

GuyInFreezer · Mon May 08, 2023 10:54 pm

Although technically I guess today’s lim pool should be those who claimed VT D1.

GuyInFreezer · Mon May 08, 2023 11:07 pm

I kinda wanna focus on the D1 VT claims actually
Because at least one of them lied.

GuyInFreezer · Mon May 08, 2023 11:10 pm

I think ones that claimed VT D1 and still alive are

Me
FA
Dunn
TSQ?

P-Edit- vig claim is missing too.

GuyInFreezer · Mon May 08, 2023 11:12 pm

Black (Good in Plaid) - VBC
Ircher BlueSnakelet (Whimsical Activities) - Lover
DragonEater70 (Pork Eaters) - ???
Drixx (We Don’t Mafia) - Commuter
Dunnstral (Polymewl) - VBC
Feysal (Ancient Guard) - ???
Firebringer (Perfectly Balanced) - Corrupt Judge
Frozen Angel (Shadow Syndicate) - VBC
GuyInFreezer (Average ™ Enjoyers) - VBC
Klick (Klickin’ Chickens) - VBC
Kuribo (Ghosts of NKs) - Lover
Pink Ball (Jingle Ballers) - Caterer
Save The Dragons (Studies Show) - Jailkeeper
Thestatusquo (Frog Friends) - VBC?
Titus (Crispy Cream Puffs) - VBC

Unclaimed - gravedigger, vig, tracker

D1 claims

GuyInFreezer · Mon May 08, 2023 11:15 pm

If they lied about their previous days role during massclaim I’m blaming them if we lose lmao

GuyInFreezer · Tue May 09, 2023 3:57 am

In post 5522, Save The Dragons wrote:
In post 5497, GuyInFreezer wrote: So PB tracked TSQ, confirming him to 100% town.
So unless all of PB/TSQ/Kuribo/Ircher is in cahoot together, then… yeah.
this is false

Potato potahto
You know what I meant there

GuyInFreezer · Tue May 09, 2023 5:26 am

Why are you so fixated on the lover part
It’s not like lover role isn’t the only role Kuribo rolled that was confirmed by others.

GuyInFreezer · Tue May 09, 2023 5:36 am

In post 5563, GuyInFreezer wrote: Why are you so fixated on the lover part
It’s not like lover role isn’t the only role Kuribo rolled that was confirmed by others.

GuyInFreezer · Tue May 09, 2023 5:39 am

Like

“Kuribo could be lying about lover”
Yeah what about the part about his visionary?

“TSQ could be in kahoot about the visionary?”
Yeah what about the part where PB tracked FB giving caterer role to TSQ?

“PB could be in kahoot with above”
Yeah what about the part where PB was nudging Black over the caterer role?

Like

????????????

GuyInFreezer · Tue May 09, 2023 5:45 am

In post 5591, Save The Dragons wrote:
In post 5588, GuyInFreezer wrote: Like

“Kuribo could be lying about lover”
Yeah what about the part about his visionary?

“TSQ could be in kahoot about the visionary?”
Yeah what about the part where PB tracked FB giving caterer role to TSQ?

“PB could be in kahoot with above”
Yeah what about the part where PB was nudging Black over the caterer role?

Like

????????????
You still don't seem to get that PB could have tracked FB to a scum shea. It's possible. Likely? I dunno. Bur until you realize the mechanics is different from what you are preaching stop clearing people

You do realize that I’m arguing PB town here for something that is not related to tracker here right

GuyInFreezer · Tue May 09, 2023 5:51 am

I did recognize it. As 2%, and then as 1% after PB tracker claim.

GuyInFreezer · Tue May 09, 2023 6:38 am

Idk why y’all think lovers is a strong role.
Sure it confirms. But it’s also 1+1 nightkill.

GuyInFreezer · Tue May 09, 2023 6:40 am

Like lover death + potential vig misfire doesn’t really mesh well with 4-men scumteam imo

Sure we can assume 4-scum to be safe
But I just don’t see it.

GuyInFreezer · Tue May 09, 2023 6:53 am

In post 5647, Frozen Angel wrote: cause they say they had a neighborhood and scum them wouldn't have them so they are confirmed to each other. they cant be scum unless if both are

Yeah but lovers are not as strong of a role as mason pair due to nightkill risk. That’s why I’m saying lovers aren’t that strong to warrant 4-men scumteam.

GuyInFreezer · Tue May 09, 2023 6:54 am

15p, 11t 4s
D2 mislim 8t 4s
N2 lover death + vig misfire = 5t 4s ELo.
Do we really expect team mafia game to be this swingy

GuyInFreezer · Tue May 09, 2023 8:26 am

In post 5653, Pink Ball wrote: That's a scumteam that correctly identifies two independant pair of lovers twice in a row which as pointed out early, it's not likely to happen.

I mean, that scumteam deserves to be on ELo if they actually do that. Or maybe they got there by sheer luck and oh well!

Only one lover death need to happen.
Twice in a row with 1 vig misfire is scum win at N2.

GuyInFreezer · Tue May 09, 2023 8:30 am

I’d shoot Dunn and never look back
Which is why I instavoted at the beginning of the day.

GuyInFreezer · Tue May 09, 2023 8:33 am

It was about Dunn/FA >>>> one of Drixx/STD for me

GuyInFreezer · Tue May 09, 2023 8:39 am

In post 5680, Thestatusquo wrote: Wait maybe we can next level them by me saying that and get them to suggest their buddies.

Pink Ball is my buddy

GuyInFreezer · Tue May 09, 2023 8:48 am

In post 5682, kuribo wrote:
In post 5679, Thestatusquo wrote: I think we should do the opposite of whatever the pool made up of 80% scum wants us to do personally.
I'm trying to get them on the record today in the hopes that we hit scum today

Fuck I shouldn't have joked about you as my buddy. I now ruined the perfect cover you had sorry PB

GuyInFreezer · Tue May 09, 2023 8:48 am

^ wrong QT

GuyInFreezer · Tue May 09, 2023 9:03 am

In post 5691, Dunnstral wrote: acting like 3 mafia in a large game is likely.

15p is barely a large game. General balance number is 3:1 ratio +1. That's why usually 9p has 2 scum, 13p has 3 scum, and 17 has 4 scum, etc.
15p is literally 13p with one more game day.

GuyInFreezer · Tue May 09, 2023 9:14 am

In post 5704, Dunnstral wrote:"I townread others more"

I think you misunderstand.
They're not merely "townreads" to me.
They're confirmed towns to me. I keep saying "2% chance on TSQ" this and "1% chance on TSQ" that, but ultimately, I don't see them anything other than confirmed town atp.

GuyInFreezer · Tue May 09, 2023 9:18 am

Also it's not like I magically assumed 3 scum starting this day.
I've been assuming 3 scum since forever.

In post 5708, Dunnstral wrote: How does that make me the most likely player to be mafia, above others in the poe?

I don't think STD/Drixx are scum together given their D1 interaction.
So that automatically pushes them lower on my priority list.
And between FA and you, I don't really care and I said so in my initial vote post, to the point where my preference was chosen via your avatar.

GuyInFreezer · Tue May 09, 2023 9:41 am

In post 5743, Dunnstral wrote:
In post 5712, GuyInFreezer wrote: And between FA and you, I don't really care and I said so in my initial vote post, to the point where my preference was chosen via your avatar.
Does that make my avatar good or bad?

Easily A tier

GuyInFreezer · Tue May 09, 2023 9:44 am

In post 5746, Save The Dragons wrote: The logic is

I targeted people I thought were scummy

But nobody seems to care about that

I believe the problem people have is “why do you think scum would target their teammate with a role.”
And my problem is “why would you fire if that night was very possibly a night before elo for you”

GuyInFreezer · Tue May 09, 2023 10:05 am

No I fully believe that STD’s visits are all true.
He knew tracker existed and he wasn’t the last in the claims. He wouldn’t risk lying about target and get caught either alignment.

GuyInFreezer · Tue May 09, 2023 10:07 am

So either he is town telling the truth or he’s scum with some sort of role with target telling the truth about target.

GuyInFreezer · Tue May 09, 2023 10:21 am

PB confirming TSQ doesn’t make PB town
It’s his whole thing about caterer D2 that makes him town
(Or that whole DE case thingy D1 if we want to approach

*shudders*

with reads)

GuyInFreezer · Tue May 09, 2023 10:23 am

Like PB is only "paranoia" slot if you just look at his tracker claim today.
If that tracker thing causes paranoia just read other posts from him. He has like 628 as of this post.

GuyInFreezer · Tue May 09, 2023 10:40 am

Keyword is "fish."

GuyInFreezer · Tue May 09, 2023 10:41 am

In post 5801, Drixx wrote: I want you to think of the problem as if you were in my shoes, or STD's shoes, and decide what the right play would be.

Use the time to evaluate PB's posts and procced like normal ELo?

GuyInFreezer · Tue May 09, 2023 10:42 am

Like I don't understand this whole paranoia thing.
If role interaction gives you paranoia just read their posts, like how y'all think the game is intended to be played.

GuyInFreezer · Tue May 09, 2023 10:42 am

Like yes I'm calling bunch of ppl conftown right now.
But it's not like it's purely based on their roles. I've been townreading them, most of them since early D1.

GuyInFreezer · Tue May 09, 2023 10:43 am

Well except for Ircher.
But why does that matter in this case? Ircher is not the "paranoia" slot here.

GuyInFreezer · Tue May 09, 2023 10:51 am

By the way, I'm either gonna look super cool right now to the dead players, or look like some incredibly dense idiot.
I can't wait to find out after this game is over. I'm here to enjoy team mafia after all like my team name suggests.

GuyInFreezer · Tue May 09, 2023 10:58 am

Also unless scum can prevent caterer from being passed (they haven't prevented it so far), group of "conftowns" will only grow.

GuyInFreezer · Tue May 09, 2023 2:01 pm

In post 5886, Save The Dragons wrote: i also never called your play bad and don't think it is

i'm asking you to sort me and honestly tell me that all the shit i've said today and in the past comes from scum

all i seem to have gotten was a "well i disagree with your stupid NAs" and it's fine to disagree but where's the scum motivation not to just lie with a different role instead of invent a role that no one had i don't get it or if you believe the vig what was i doing with ircher as scum that 's so bad i had to protect myself in a tracking situation with a vig shot

like how does this make sense i don't get it

I mean it's just gonna happen to all of us who's in PoE. If they think the group are conftown, then all they really need is one solid townread today and they can just ditch the rest.
Like do you strongly townread someone in the PoE?

GuyInFreezer · Tue May 09, 2023 2:27 pm

In post 5923, Save The Dragons wrote: i used my night actions how i wanted to to try and find scum

i've asked people what possible reason i would have to target ircher as scum and gotten no response

i've asked people what the scum agenda is for claiming the way i did and got no response

i've asked people what the scum agenda is for my play this dayphase and gotten no response

i've literally been honest with people

Just covering your ears and going "lalala I can't hear you" isn't really going to help your case here.

I don't really think the first question warrants an answer but why wouldn't scum, say, roleblocker, want to target Ircher? Ircher was p much confirmed town from scum's view at that point. And due to his lack of presence he would be one of the better target, even.

Second was also answered as in "scum you wouldn't have lied due to knowing the existence of the tracker." Also, delaying claim to last would be super SUS, especially when you're in the PoE.

Third was also answered, multiple times even. Scum wants to break the TSQ-Kuribo-Ircher-PB group because otherwise they will never escape the PoE trap. What you've been doing fits that scenario to the T.

Like, personally, I can see both sides. I can see town-you doing this. I can see scum-you doing this. I personally think if town, your night actions and the explanation, like this one, is outlandish. But like just covering your ears and pretending that nothing happened won't help you in any way. Reads and reasons aren't the only part about this game. Persuasion is half of the game after all.

GuyInFreezer · Wed May 10, 2023 2:36 am

Won’t be really here for next 2 days btw

GuyInFreezer · Thu May 11, 2023 12:53 am

Blatantly dodging prod.
I’ll be back tomorrow.

GuyInFreezer · Fri May 12, 2023 1:14 am

In post 6222, Drixx wrote:
In post 4120, Thestatusquo wrote:
In post 4118, Titus wrote: Black - Dead
Drixx
Dunnstral
Firebringer
Frozen Angel
GuyInFreezer - Black Clear - Hypo
Ircher - Linked
Klick - Dead
Kuribo - Linked
Pink Ball - Linked
Save The Dragons
Thestatusquo - Hypothetical [not revealing X]
Titus - Linked

This leaves Drixx, Dunn, Fire, FA, StD

Versus Kuribo Ircher Titus Shea, GiF

With Lovers and Caterer in play.
I have literally no clue what this post means
I was looking quickly through TSQ's ISO and stumbled upon this post. Despite my frustration with Titus for not responding to my criticism of her plan by improving said plan or explaining in some other way, she was remarkably on point with the game state. Like ... she has FB in the poe and GiF out, but only because she presumed Black would be targeting GiF. She otherwise literally predicted the gamestate.

Propers where they belong.

I’m p sure she didn’t presume Black would be targeting me because I think I asked her “but I’m commuter” and she was like “you’re not the actual target”

GuyInFreezer · Fri May 12, 2023 1:14 am

Asking her as in asking Titus

GuyInFreezer · Fri May 12, 2023 2:57 am

I’m sucker for AtE and last few pages are killing me what do

GuyInFreezer · Fri May 12, 2023 3:06 am

STD and Drixx

GuyInFreezer · Fri May 12, 2023 3:13 am

In post 6268, Pink Ball wrote: If you had to be wrong about one of them, who is it

I’m actually leaning Drixx tbh

GuyInFreezer · Fri May 12, 2023 4:15 am

I mean between STD and Drixx I’m leaning on Drixx being scum more just from vibe. I forget if Drixx thinks this game is 3-men team or 4-men team but if he thinks there are 4-men team the defeatist nature wouldn’t make sense I think. But it could simply be the mood swing.

GuyInFreezer · Fri May 12, 2023 4:35 am

In post 6277, Save The Dragons wrote: ceph thinks 3.5 scum is possible

I mean yeah but only number wise since it’s midway between 13p and 17p

GuyInFreezer · Fri May 12, 2023 4:41 am

FA is still on the table right

GuyInFreezer · Fri May 12, 2023 4:42 am

In post 6287, Pink Ball wrote:
In post 6284, Pink Ball wrote: Let me check something
By this I mean "potential traitor signaling posts"
Imma look at the PoE ISOs except StD because suggesting a traitor being a traitor right no makes no sense to me

It would actually make a lot of sense
But I don’t believe in traitor so

GuyInFreezer · Fri May 12, 2023 4:53 am

And since Dunn claimed commuter too that would break your me-Dunn dichotomy

GuyInFreezer · Fri May 12, 2023 5:18 am

trying to catch the entire scumteam today is obviously not the best way to deal with this day

That was me since the beginning of the day

GuyInFreezer · Fri May 12, 2023 12:27 pm

Hey y’all I have a scum game that’s actually recent and not like 5 years ago

viewtopic.php?t=90727

GuyInFreezer · Fri May 12, 2023 12:47 pm

Hydra. But it was literally all me except for like 2 posts

GuyInFreezer · Fri May 12, 2023 12:48 pm

You can skip everything until D5 though. That’s basically scum-me in a PoE pool.

GuyInFreezer · Fri May 12, 2023 1:54 pm

Ehuehuehuehue

GuyInFreezer · Fri May 12, 2023 1:57 pm

Although the reason why I said focus on D5 of that game is because it’s the only part of the game where I actually efforted after getting guilty’d (fake) and literally scum claiming the day before. I kinda wanted to see if I could get away with it. If you’re really worried about the general game tempo, that day lasted 5 rl days.

GuyInFreezer · Fri May 12, 2023 2:10 pm

In post 6327, Dunnstral wrote: You do look different in that game on a quick skim, you are a lot more active and involved whereas here it feels like you're going out of your way to avoid doing things instead. You are very mech minded too.

Shading aside, me being mech minded isn’t alignment indicative. I was mech heavy in my scum game (because I had to), and I was mech heavy in demon slayer (because it’s a role madness). I guess if you’re town you could look at why I’m approaching things like I am that is more than just “GIF is just being fucking lazy” but I still don’t think you’re town so.

GuyInFreezer · Fri May 12, 2023 2:11 pm

(By the way, I

am

very lazy, especially when it comes to [re]reading.)

GuyInFreezer · Fri May 12, 2023 2:19 pm

In post 6302, Dunnstral wrote: The last 2 pages are ZZZ

Does anybody think it is weird that GiF doesn't talk about me when evaluating reads?

Why is it weird that I’m not taking about you?
What headspace do you think I’m in rn?

GuyInFreezer · Fri May 12, 2023 2:22 pm

My MO this game day is literally “STD/Drixx
is unlikely to be S/S due to their D1 interaction so imma find out which one is town” and “I think there are 3 scum.” All my posts today was made with these in mind.

GuyInFreezer · Fri May 12, 2023 2:29 pm

Like I think I’ve been making crystal clear for most of the day. Had you were actually interested in my reads or something I feel like the first question you would’ve asked was “what makes them not SvS?” But I don’t think you ever asked that and instead was all like “ooh he’s not mentioning Drixx” and “he’s not trying to do anything.”

GuyInFreezer · Sat May 13, 2023 3:02 am

In post 6341, Dunnstral wrote:
In post 6337, GuyInFreezer wrote:
In post 6302, Dunnstral wrote: The last 2 pages are ZZZ

Does anybody think it is weird that GiF doesn't talk about me when evaluating reads?
Why is it weird that I’m not taking about you?
What headspace do you think I’m in rn?
You think I'm mafia, I'm voting Drixx. What are your thoughts on that?

Instead you're not acknowledging it. I think that is weird.

I mean it could easily be a bus vote so it’s NAI.

GuyInFreezer · Sat May 13, 2023 3:08 am

Like there are multiple scenarios where scum-you vote Drixx.

1. It’s ELo and you’re going for mislim. You don’t like coordinating quickhammer after all so why not be the first vote
2. It’s ELo and you’re bussing. Assuming all role groups are town they only need one townread. Why not bus for towncred?
3. It’s not ELo and above except two townreads.
4. It’s not ELo and you’re going for mislim.

GuyInFreezer · Sat May 13, 2023 3:08 am

In post 6362, Dunnstral wrote: Right... what I'm saying is I expect you to make a comment like above acknowledging it earlier and not only when I prompt you.

I’m saying I didn’t bother to comment cos it’s obvious NAI.

GuyInFreezer · Sat May 13, 2023 3:11 am

Also if you’re not on the table of what role groups are not interested in limming today I have less incentive to sort you rn.

GuyInFreezer · Sat May 13, 2023 3:13 am

In post 6365, Dunnstral wrote: I don't want you to coldy list out every single possibility and call it Nai - I want you to guess at what is actually going on

Can you guess which scenario I’m leaning on?

GuyInFreezer · Sat May 13, 2023 3:16 am

In post 6367, Dunnstral wrote: Bussing is NaI :thinkingemoji:

You see this is the kind I mean by shading.
You’re just skipping all the obvious implications and post stuff like that.

GuyInFreezer · Sat May 13, 2023 3:24 am

If something is NAI that means it can come from both town and scum right?

GuyInFreezer · Sat May 13, 2023 3:25 am

Like “bussing” clearly assumes scum why would I call that NAI

GuyInFreezer · Sat May 13, 2023 3:25 am

In post 6270, GuyInFreezer wrote:
In post 6268, Pink Ball wrote: If you had to be wrong about one of them, who is it
I’m actually leaning Drixx tbh

In post 6273, GuyInFreezer wrote: I mean between STD and Drixx I’m leaning on Drixx being scum more just from vibe. I forget if Drixx thinks this game is 3-men team or 4-men team but if he thinks there are 4-men team the defeatist nature wouldn’t make sense I think. But it could simply be the mood swing.

Also I was p clear on where I’m leaning

GuyInFreezer · Sat May 13, 2023 3:27 am

I actually hinted it way back then too.

In post 5937, GuyInFreezer wrote:
In post 5923, Save The Dragons wrote: i used my night actions how i wanted to to try and find scum

i've asked people what possible reason i would have to target ircher as scum and gotten no response

i've asked people what the scum agenda is for claiming the way i did and got no response

i've asked people what the scum agenda is for my play this dayphase and gotten no response

i've literally been honest with people
Just covering your ears and going "lalala I can't hear you" isn't really going to help your case here.

I don't really think the first question warrants an answer but why wouldn't scum, say, roleblocker, want to target Ircher? Ircher was p much confirmed town from scum's view at that point. And due to his lack of presence he would be one of the better target, even.

Second was also answered as in "scum you wouldn't have lied due to knowing the existence of the tracker." Also, delaying claim to last would be super SUS, especially when you're in the PoE.

Third was also answered, multiple times even. Scum wants to break the TSQ-Kuribo-Ircher-PB group because otherwise they will never escape the PoE trap. What you've been doing fits that scenario to the T.

Like, personally, I can see both sides. I can see town-you doing this. I can see scum-you doing this. I personally think if town, your night actions and the explanation, like this one, is outlandish. But like just covering your ears and pretending that nothing happened won't help you in any way. Reads and reasons aren't the only part about this game. Persuasion is half of the game after all.

Why would I post something like this to someone I think is scum? I certainly don’t want someone I scumread an out.

GuyInFreezer · Sat May 13, 2023 3:29 am

Well actually this one I can’t really blame others on cos they don’t know how I like to play my game

GuyInFreezer · Sat May 13, 2023 3:36 am

Oh and in case you ask me something like “why aren’t you pushing me”

I have you as scum simply because enough people are townier than you.

GuyInFreezer · Sat May 13, 2023 3:38 am

In post 6377, Dunnstral wrote:
In post 6373, GuyInFreezer wrote: Like “bussing” clearly assumes scum why would I call that NAI
I don't know... you tell me:

In post 6361, GuyInFreezer wrote: I mean it could easily be a bus vote so it’s NAI.

Maybe it’s my English.
So there I was saying “(I can see town doing this but also) I can give an example of why scum-you could do this so it’s NAI.” Like if I can think of why someone would do things as both alignment then it’s NAI.

GuyInFreezer · Sat May 13, 2023 3:40 am

In post 6378, Dunnstral wrote:
In post 6375, GuyInFreezer wrote: I actually hinted it way back then too.

In post 5937, GuyInFreezer wrote:
In post 5923, Save The Dragons wrote: i used my night actions how i wanted to to try and find scum

i've asked people what possible reason i would have to target ircher as scum and gotten no response

i've asked people what the scum agenda is for claiming the way i did and got no response

i've asked people what the scum agenda is for my play this dayphase and gotten no response

i've literally been honest with people
Just covering your ears and going "lalala I can't hear you" isn't really going to help your case here.

I don't really think the first question warrants an answer but why wouldn't scum, say, roleblocker, want to target Ircher? Ircher was p much confirmed town from scum's view at that point. And due to his lack of presence he would be one of the better target, even.

Second was also answered as in "scum you wouldn't have lied due to knowing the existence of the tracker." Also, delaying claim to last would be super SUS, especially when you're in the PoE.

Third was also answered, multiple times even. Scum wants to break the TSQ-Kuribo-Ircher-PB group because otherwise they will never escape the PoE trap. What you've been doing fits that scenario to the T.

Like, personally, I can see both sides. I can see town-you doing this. I can see scum-you doing this. I personally think if town, your night actions and the explanation, like this one, is outlandish. But like just covering your ears and pretending that nothing happened won't help you in any way. Reads and reasons aren't the only part about this game. Persuasion is half of the game after all.
Why would I post something like this to someone I think is scum? I certainly don’t want someone I scumread an out.
I don't understand why you wouldn't

Why would I give a play advice to someone who I think it’s scum? I want my scumreads to mess up and dig their own grave.

GuyInFreezer · Sat May 13, 2023 3:52 am

That was me being objective there. I also said I see town STD doing that.

GuyInFreezer · Sat May 13, 2023 3:57 am

Only the former actually.
The latter is derived from “I think there’s one town between STD/Drixx”

GuyInFreezer · Sat May 13, 2023 4:02 am

“But GIF you never said there is one town between them, only that you don’t think they’re SvS.”

Given who I think are basically confirmed town and who’s left and how many scum I think there is…

GuyInFreezer · Sat May 13, 2023 4:04 am

In post 6387, Dunnstral wrote: I'm not really sure what you are arguing anymore

It all started with “GIF isn’t doing anything.”

GuyInFreezer · Sat May 13, 2023 4:10 am

In post 6390, Pink Ball wrote: GiF if I understand what you’re saying, you think there are 3 scum and given that StD townied things up, the scumteam would be Drixx/Dunn/FA right?

Yeah.
Are you about to ask me why I’m not voting Drixx?

GuyInFreezer · Sat May 13, 2023 4:10 am

In post 6391, Dunnstral wrote:
In post 6388, GuyInFreezer wrote: “But GIF you never said there is one town between them, only that you don’t think they’re SvS.”

Given who I think are basically confirmed town and who’s left and how many scum I think there is…
I never said the above

I know you didn’t.
I like predicting questions.

GuyInFreezer · Sun May 14, 2023 8:36 pm

My STD read is getting stale

GuyInFreezer · Mon May 15, 2023 2:49 am

In post 6435, Dunnstral wrote:
In post 5712, GuyInFreezer wrote: I don't think STD/Drixx are scum together given their D1 interaction.
So that automatically pushes them lower on my priority list.

In post 6273, GuyInFreezer wrote: I mean between STD and Drixx I’m leaning on Drixx being scum more just from vibe. I forget if Drixx thinks this game is 3-men team or 4-men team but if he thinks there are 4-men team the defeatist nature wouldn’t make sense I think. But it could simply be the mood swing.
Looks like your read is:

1. Save The Dragons and Drixx are not aligned with each other
2. Drixx looks like mafia based on things Drixx is doing

And you are now saying:

3. Your read on Save The Dragons is getting stale

Interesting. I don't think this is a real thought process as it doesn't tackle #2 above and doesn't make sense in context with the way you were reading them earlier.

I don’t think this is a real thought process as this and the one below basically says that I’m not allowed to townread one side and scumread other side at the same time and that’s ????

GuyInFreezer · Mon May 15, 2023 3:18 pm

I guess if this causes the game to end then

F

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VOTE: Drixx

GuyInFreezer · Mon May 15, 2023 3:21 pm

I'm gonna guess if Drixx was town and PB was scum hammer would've came down immediately.

GuyInFreezer · Mon May 15, 2023 3:22 pm

Oh is the game over

GuyInFreezer · Mon May 15, 2023 3:24 pm

PB is the game over

Am I FREE to play Zelda tomorrow????

GuyInFreezer · Mon May 15, 2023 3:31 pm

At least this doesn't feel like I've been endgamed. So I guess 3-men team confirmed

GuyInFreezer · Mon May 15, 2023 3:36 pm

In post 6616, Ircher wrote: I wouldn't trust anything GIF says here in Twilight. They'd probably troll us for fun.

I'm a lover with a partner.