honestly i get how you can see that but i highly doubt itIn post 1576, JacksonVirgo wrote:I didn't say I thought they couldn't be, I wanna wait to see a flip first and foremost but if I was a compulsive/impulsive gambler I would bet on the pair rnIn post 1574, Black wrote:You don't think they could be partnered?In post 1542, JacksonVirgo wrote: Btw I do think one of Hu Tao / Gypyx is a wolf
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this was more meant in relation to me TR'ing of hu taoIn post 1587, JacksonVirgo wrote:
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yeah like idk i've searched everywhere in the scum PT i don see themIn post 1590, Black wrote:
You doubt that you're partnered with Hu?In post 1584, Gypyx wrote:
honestly i get how you can see that but i highly doubt itIn post 1576, JacksonVirgo wrote:
I didn't say I thought they couldn't be, I wanna wait to see a flip first and foremost but if I was a compulsive/impulsive gambler I would bet on the pair rnIn post 1574, Black wrote:
You don't think they could be partnered?In post 1542, JacksonVirgo wrote: Btw I do think one of Hu Tao / Gypyx is a wolfWhite Flag : Carebear Edition is ongoing ! (13/13) hit me up if you wanna get on the priority replacement list / spectate
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heyheyheyheyheyeheyeheyeheyeheyeheyehyeheyeIn post 1608, ketchup777 wrote: Im sorry, i hate to leave in the middle of the fun but I have to go in a minute for an hour. We can continue afterWhite Flag : Carebear Edition is ongoing ! (13/13) hit me up if you wanna get on the priority replacement list / spectate
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current claims
Hu Tao - Odd-night JKer
Gypyx - VT
Black - VT
Outworld - Macho Neap
JacksonVirgo - VT
Psyche - 1-shot Watcher
Ketchup - VT
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actually we have too much PR claims right nowIn post 1614, ketchup777 wrote: Right sorry everyone, I swear I wasn’t away scheming, I had an overrunning german tutoring session.
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they aren't really gated?In post 1620, JacksonVirgo wrote:
You realise how gated the claimed PRs are yeah? Not necessarilyIn post 1618, Gypyx wrote: actually we have too much PR claims right nowWhite Flag : Carebear Edition is ongoing ! (13/13) hit me up if you wanna get on the priority replacement list / spectate
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Odd night is a very weak gateIn post 1624, JacksonVirgo wrote:
All bar one is gated.In post 1621, Gypyx wrote:
they aren't really gated?In post 1620, JacksonVirgo wrote:
You realise how gated the claimed PRs are yeah? Not necessarilyIn post 1618, Gypyx wrote: actually we have too much PR claims right nowWhite Flag : Carebear Edition is ongoing ! (13/13) hit me up if you wanna get on the priority replacement list / spectate
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jackson you better not start saying stupid shitIn post 1628, JacksonVirgo wrote: I have a lot of thoughts, I think I solved the gameWhite Flag : Carebear Edition is ongoing ! (13/13) hit me up if you wanna get on the priority replacement list / spectate
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Stuff that i'll wait for massclaim to end to start talking aboutIn post 1632, JacksonVirgo wrote: Nah, it's fine but you gotta clarify what stupid shit you were thinking of when you said thatWhite Flag : Carebear Edition is ongoing ! (13/13) hit me up if you wanna get on the priority replacement list / spectate
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there was one before the queue change but it certainely wouldn't fly now with the simple normal guidelinesIn post 1652, JacksonVirgo wrote: Yeah, I don't recall a single 13p normal game that doesn't have three wolves
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honestly i'd be cool with skipping luca's turn so that we may have more time to think about thingsIn post 1654, JacksonVirgo wrote: Mmm, I'm finding it really hard to keep sitting on my handsWhite Flag : Carebear Edition is ongoing ! (13/13) hit me up if you wanna get on the priority replacement list / spectate
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i think hu tao is very much obvtown right nowIn post 1660, JacksonVirgo wrote:
Mhm, so you should say what you meant by the doing smthn stupidIn post 1657, Gypyx wrote: honestly i'd be cool with skipping luca's turn so that we may have more time to think about things
like, yesterday i guess it was less obvious, i thought she sent signals that she had an inno on me and it got mixed with her actual signals of being a PR
Psyche's claim is mighty suspicious also for reasons of lack of synergy with the setup + basically null levels of info it's allowed to bring, and him trying to accuse hu tao on something as flimsy as "knowing there are 3 scum" is comforting me on this ideaWhite Flag : Carebear Edition is ongoing ! (13/13) hit me up if you wanna get on the priority replacement list / spectate
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something stupid would be accusing hu taoIn post 1669, JacksonVirgo wrote:
That's not what I askedIn post 1663, Gypyx wrote:
i think hu tao is very much obvtown right nowIn post 1660, JacksonVirgo wrote:
Mhm, so you should say what you meant by the doing smthn stupidIn post 1657, Gypyx wrote: honestly i'd be cool with skipping luca's turn so that we may have more time to think about things
like, yesterday i guess it was less obvious, i thought she sent signals that she had an inno on me and it got mixed with her actual signals of being a PR
Psyche's claim is mighty suspicious also for reasons of lack of synergy with the setup + basically null levels of info it's allowed to bring, and him trying to accuse hu tao on something as flimsy as "knowing there are 3 scum" is comforting me on this ideaWhite Flag : Carebear Edition is ongoing ! (13/13) hit me up if you wanna get on the priority replacement list / spectate
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i'm in you walls jacksonvirgo
and also very much aware that some of my antics might've put town in a rough position
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man i wishIn post 1678, JacksonVirgo wrote: How has it been playing as a wolf this game Gypyx?White Flag : Carebear Edition is ongoing ! (13/13) hit me up if you wanna get on the priority replacement list / spectate
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are you saying that cause i'm not writing 10 paragraph long cases or is it something elseIn post 1681, JacksonVirgo wrote: This entire time you've seemed to try and set up mislims moreso than really solving the game
tbf this playstyle experiment has maybe not gone as well as i would've hoped to but my play has only been protown, save for the dann hammer which i admit was somewhat of a throw
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Shit happens, had doubts, especially because i was voting with a lot of my scumreads on titusIn post 1682, JacksonVirgo wrote:In post 1423, Gypyx wrote: UNVOTE:
actually this wagon sucks wtf
Hu Tao are you a member of the mafia
Can you explain the shift here considering the "inno on you"In post 1443, Gypyx wrote:
i'm trying really hard to say stuff without saying itIn post 1441, JacksonVirgo wrote:
I can't place it but this post reads pretty awfulIn post 1440, Gypyx wrote: maybe Titus is the best vote we can acheive today actually
I just don't think it's Hu Tao
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not sure what're you're trying to say hereIn post 1683, JacksonVirgo wrote:
Or this oneIn post 1257, Gypyx wrote: @Anyone interested in the Hu Tao wagon
do you think scum!Hu Tao ever kills Deltawave this night when it would feel pretty natural for town to aim on the wagon, and with Delta being dead, Hu Tao would basically be the next in PoE of the Dann pushers? Luca isn't a realistic lim to aim for given his generally high towncred
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i honestly don't recall that jacob wolf thingyIn post 1685, JacksonVirgo wrote: Also why you've been trying to discredit me whenever my reads do not align with what you think like when you called Jacob wolf just cuz I came in with a vote on you, and just recently when you were trying to pull apart when I said I had a solve
and i mean, look, what, am i supposed to wait nicely for you to give out a wrong solve in ELo? yeah i'm a bit tense cause today's the day where i can do things and you seem to be coming in here with a very strongscumread alreadyWhite Flag : Carebear Edition is ongoing ! (13/13) hit me up if you wanna get on the priority replacement list / spectate
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look, we disagree on balance, like, fineIn post 1689, JacksonVirgo wrote:
No it's because you seem to be throwing shade at the PRs to a degree I would consider unjustified, the whole gating back and forth we had was just strange to me. It didn't feel you were looking at it in nearly the lens you should be looking at it with considering the low power of the Town if all those claims were true and there were no others. Then your take on PsycheIn post 1684, Gypyx wrote:
are you saying that cause i'm not writing 10 paragraph long cases or is it something elseIn post 1681, JacksonVirgo wrote: This entire time you've seemed to try and set up mislims moreso than really solving the game
tbf this playstyle experiment has maybe not gone as well as i would've hoped to but my play has only been protown, save for the dann hammer which i admit was somewhat of a throw
idk i'm just fed up with never mattering as town
"Psyche's claim is mighty suspicious also for reasons of lack of synergy with the setup + basically null levels of info it's allowed to bring, and him trying to accuse hu tao on something as flimsy as "knowing there are 3 scum" is comforting me on this idea"
Seems overly grasping at straws if I were to use terminology I had used against you in the past to make my point. This opportunism I'm seeing has been consistent since I replaced in. You're not giving it critical thought even though you're seemingly trying to make it seem like you are
i think the nrg approves the following without any issue
Odd-Night JKer
Odd-Night Vig
Macho Neap
Vtx7
Goonx2
Goon / weak action investigative
Psyche's claim is just out of place fluff that doesn't need him to provide anything in order to have a realistic claim
using caps here half out of anger and half to drive my point here
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Please Hu Tao they're gonna murder meIn post 1692, Hu Tao wrote:
Clearly I'm one of the 3 scumIn post 1649, Psyche wrote:how does hu tao know that there are three scum
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don't mind me just quoting that
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Mine was more a humorous consideration about oversmplifying the gameIn post 1708, OutWorldER wrote:In post 1645, Gypyx wrote: can't we just vote scum out?
i'm not sure why both of you are so impatient about this when the day has basically just startedIn post 1704, JacksonVirgo wrote: We already lost too much time from the massclaim to just waste it further on your superficial "just in case" plan
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Yes but i still defended her in the end and this wasn't meant for the whole entire game, this was meant for now that the JKer claim is outIn post 1720, ketchup777 wrote:
You were at one point on Hu Tao's wagonIn post 1672, Gypyx wrote:
something stupid would be accusing hu taoIn post 1669, JacksonVirgo wrote:
That's not what I askedIn post 1663, Gypyx wrote:
i think hu tao is very much obvtown right nowIn post 1660, JacksonVirgo wrote:
Mhm, so you should say what you meant by the doing smthn stupidIn post 1657, Gypyx wrote: honestly i'd be cool with skipping luca's turn so that we may have more time to think about things
like, yesterday i guess it was less obvious, i thought she sent signals that she had an inno on me and it got mixed with her actual signals of being a PR
Psyche's claim is mighty suspicious also for reasons of lack of synergy with the setup + basically null levels of info it's allowed to bring, and him trying to accuse hu tao on something as flimsy as "knowing there are 3 scum" is comforting me on this ideaWhite Flag : Carebear Edition is ongoing ! (13/13) hit me up if you wanna get on the priority replacement list / spectate
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really wanna 1v1 jackson nglWhite Flag : Carebear Edition is ongoing ! (13/13) hit me up if you wanna get on the priority replacement list / spectate
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you had started this day by expressing that me / hu contained at least 1 scum, assumed your opinions stayed roughly in that rangeIn post 1743, JacksonVirgo wrote: Few things
In post 1629, Gypyx wrote:
jackson you better not start saying stupid shitIn post 1628, JacksonVirgo wrote: I have a lot of thoughts, I think I solved the game
Why were you so "heated", for lack of a better term, about the possibility I was gonna call Hu Tao wolf when that's information on your end and not public information? This still feels incredibly out of placeIn post 1631, Gypyx wrote: sorry that was a bit excessive of me
as for being heated, it's elo, and i'm tense, especially seeing someone who i belive is town going towards the part of solving the game that i know for a fact is wrong
how you're acting plainly proscum / going against all logic that i'm capable of conceinving but i think that's just solved by having your slot as scum
What about my play mystifies you?In post 1711, Gypyx wrote:
Mine was more a humorous consideration about oversmplifying the gameIn post 1708, OutWorldER wrote:
Were you referring to black here? What prompted you to say this in this moment?In post 1645, Gypyx wrote: can't we just vote scum out?
i'm not sure why both of you are so impatient about this when the day has basically just startedIn post 1704, JacksonVirgo wrote: We already lost too much time from the massclaim to just waste it further on your superficial "just in case" plan
Meanwhile jackson's play completely mystifies me and i'll just assume he's scum to save my mental sanity i think
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NO KETCHUPIn post 1747, ketchup777 wrote: youre finding good stuff jackson but i agree with the people who said we should wait till luca and hu tao claim
dont we suspect hu tao more than luca so should make hu tao claim actions before luca? or no
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
can we at least vote out psyche today please, on a purely mechanical basis their claim doesn't fit in with the setup, Outworld's macho makes it so that they can't be protected by docs so it barely makes any sense for it to be a watcher who can bypass this lack of protection element
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For someone who thinks there are enough PR claims, you acting suspicious of them still is actually insaneIn post 1749, JacksonVirgo wrote: For someone who thought there were too many PR claims, you saying they're basically conftown is actually insaneWhite Flag : Carebear Edition is ongoing ! (13/13) hit me up if you wanna get on the priority replacement list / spectate
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by PR's i mean hu taoIn post 1754, Black wrote:
This doesn't match with your earlier posts about PsycheIn post 1748, Gypyx wrote: for instance i don't get why you're interrogating PR's about their actions when they're basically conftownWhite Flag : Carebear Edition is ongoing ! (13/13) hit me up if you wanna get on the priority replacement list / spectate
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the watcher targets someone and see who visited them at nightIn post 1757, ketchup777 wrote:
sorry im a bit nooby can someone elaborate on why a watcher would not make senseIn post 1753, Gypyx wrote:
NO KETCHUPIn post 1747, ketchup777 wrote: youre finding good stuff jackson but i agree with the people who said we should wait till luca and hu tao claim
dont we suspect hu tao more than luca so should make hu tao claim actions before luca? or no
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
can we at least vote out psyche today please, on a purely mechanical basis their claim doesn't fit in with the setup, Outworld's macho makes it so that they can't be protected by docs so it barely makes any sense for it to be a watcher who can bypass this lack of protection element
hu tao is also basically conftown barring any protective CC from luca, in which case i'll reevaluate accordingly but that's not something we should be playing around
it's main use is catching out scum performing the nightkillWhite Flag : Carebear Edition is ongoing ! (13/13) hit me up if you wanna get on the priority replacement list / spectate
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please can someone who's town agree that Black / Jackson are piling up on me right nowWhite Flag : Carebear Edition is ongoing ! (13/13) hit me up if you wanna get on the priority replacement list / spectate
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cause psyche is public scum and while i'm convinced you are it will probably take seeing one of my reads turn out correct for me to gain the tiniest crumb of public credibilityIn post 1759, Black wrote:
Why would you rather vote for Psyche and not me? You've been saying I'm scum literally the entire game but now you'd rather go for a claimed PR over me? That's scummy afIn post 1753, Gypyx wrote: can we at least vote out psyche today please, on a purely mechanical basis their claim doesn't fit in with the setup, Outworld's macho makes it so that they can't be protected by docs so it barely makes any sense for it to be a watcher who can bypass this lack of protection elementWhite Flag : Carebear Edition is ongoing ! (13/13) hit me up if you wanna get on the priority replacement list / spectate
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basically, let's say Outworld claims neap day 1 cause he got forced to or wanted to get credibilityIn post 1763, ketchup777 wrote:
I understandIn post 1760, Gypyx wrote:
the watcher targets someone and see who visited them at nightIn post 1757, ketchup777 wrote:
sorry im a bit nooby can someone elaborate on why a watcher would not make senseIn post 1753, Gypyx wrote:
NO KETCHUPIn post 1747, ketchup777 wrote: youre finding good stuff jackson but i agree with the people who said we should wait till luca and hu tao claim
dont we suspect hu tao more than luca so should make hu tao claim actions before luca? or no
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
can we at least vote out psyche today please, on a purely mechanical basis their claim doesn't fit in with the setup,Outworld's macho makes it so that they can't be protected by docs so it barely makes any sense for it to be a watcher who can bypass this lack of protection element
hu tao is also basically conftown barring any protective CC from luca, in which case i'll reevaluate accordingly but that's not something we should be playing around
it's main use is catching out scum performing the nightkill
But wdym by this
Jailkeeper protects them, scum still goes through, it's cool, good gameplay interaction as town is punished for their main PR being brought up
Watch watches them, scum gets caught and is punished for town's misplays
not to note that 1-shot watcher is extremely swingy as either it kills a scum or it does litterally nothing, especially with these roles, no TPr wants to target townWhite Flag : Carebear Edition is ongoing ! (13/13) hit me up if you wanna get on the priority replacement list / spectate
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you're throwing me more than i can answer and calling me scummy for not answeringIn post 1765, JacksonVirgo wrote: We are piling on you, but why would that be scummy? You’re acting wolfyWhite Flag : Carebear Edition is ongoing ! (13/13) hit me up if you wanna get on the priority replacement list / spectate
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we are in a simple normalIn post 1773, JacksonVirgo wrote: Gyp why do you think every role must make an obvious link and anything else means it’s fake? As it’s proven that the opposite can be the case with the inventor game and also that’s just a flawed viewpoint even taking it at face value
aka : enforced minimal WIFOM
plus like, i get wanting to design a not straight fowards setup but when choosing between thomith designing a purposefully misleading role or Psyche simply being scum caught in a somewhat badly executed claim it's extremely dishonest to call me out for choosing the most probably answer by farWhite Flag : Carebear Edition is ongoing ! (13/13) hit me up if you wanna get on the priority replacement list / spectate
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who cares if i'm pushing a potential PR or a potential VT, it's ELo and the scumteam is making their playIn post 1770, Black wrote:
If you are convinced we are both scum it doesn't make sense for town!you to push the one that could possibly be a town PRIn post 1764, Gypyx wrote:
cause psyche is public scum and while i'm convinced you are it will probably take seeing one of my reads turn out correct for me to gain the tiniest crumb of public credibilityIn post 1759, Black wrote:
Why would you rather vote for Psyche and not me? You've been saying I'm scum literally the entire game but now you'd rather go for a claimed PR over me? That's scummy afIn post 1753, Gypyx wrote: can we at least vote out psyche today please, on a purely mechanical basis their claim doesn't fit in with the setup, Outworld's macho makes it so that they can't be protected by docs so it barely makes any sense for it to be a watcher who can bypass this lack of protection elementWhite Flag : Carebear Edition is ongoing ! (13/13) hit me up if you wanna get on the priority replacement list / spectate
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well, watchers want to target town the *vast* majority of the time, in that sense they would be most likely to see a doctor / scumkillIn post 1778, ketchup777 wrote: Apologies again...
If targeting the right person, a watcher will find:
a) scum who kill
b) a jailkeeper trying to roleblock the player
c) a doctor trying to protect the player
d) a vigilante who shot the player
please tell me which apply
unless you're asking which roles they would be able to see in which case it's all of themWhite Flag : Carebear Edition is ongoing ! (13/13) hit me up if you wanna get on the priority replacement list / spectate
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Outworld just dies and we're in the same shit expect 1 less town voiceIn post 1780, ketchup777 wrote: Also is it not beneficial to wait a day, see what happens, try nail them in 4vs3? or does that work out worseWhite Flag : Carebear Edition is ongoing ! (13/13) hit me up if you wanna get on the priority replacement list / spectate
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well right now all town PRs are pretty obvious but you're certainely not making it easy for townIn post 1781, JacksonVirgo wrote:
Having non-linked roles is not wifom. In fact, if all town PRs are very obviously town PRs then what's the point in playing the game?In post 1777, Gypyx wrote:
we are in a simple normalIn post 1773, JacksonVirgo wrote: Gyp why do you think every role must make an obvious link and anything else means it’s fake? As it’s proven that the opposite can be the case with the inventor game and also that’s just a flawed viewpoint even taking it at face value
aka : enforced minimal WIFOM
plus like, i get wanting to design a not straight fowards setup but when choosing between thomith designing a purposefully misleading role or Psyche simply being scum caught in a somewhat badly executed claim it's extremely dishonest to call me out for choosing the most probably answer by farWhite Flag : Carebear Edition is ongoing ! (13/13) hit me up if you wanna get on the priority replacement list / spectate
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you're a sly rascal that's what you areWhite Flag : Carebear Edition is ongoing ! (13/13) hit me up if you wanna get on the priority replacement list / spectate
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That one's a fair point yes, but it remains a guilty on them regardless, and while this case is a bit different from the usual jailkeeper most of the time wants to target scum as they wouldn't wanna accidentally roleblock a town power roleIn post 1791, ketchup777 wrote:
so surely scum is not autocaught in your scenario, as they would see the jailkeeper and scumIn post 1772, Gypyx wrote:
basically, let's say Outworld claims neap day 1 cause he got forced to or wanted to get credibilityIn post 1763, ketchup777 wrote:
I understandIn post 1760, Gypyx wrote:
the watcher targets someone and see who visited them at nightIn post 1757, ketchup777 wrote:
sorry im a bit nooby can someone elaborate on why a watcher would not make senseIn post 1753, Gypyx wrote:
NO KETCHUPIn post 1747, ketchup777 wrote: youre finding good stuff jackson but i agree with the people who said we should wait till luca and hu tao claim
dont we suspect hu tao more than luca so should make hu tao claim actions before luca? or no
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
can we at least vote out psyche today please, on a purely mechanical basis their claim doesn't fit in with the setup,Outworld's macho makes it so that they can't be protected by docs so it barely makes any sense for it to be a watcher who can bypass this lack of protection element
hu tao is also basically conftown barring any protective CC from luca, in which case i'll reevaluate accordingly but that's not something we should be playing around
it's main use is catching out scum performing the nightkill
But wdym by this
Jailkeeper protects them, scum still goes through, it's cool, good gameplay interaction as town is punished for their main PR being brought up
Watch watches them, scum gets caught and is punished for town's misplays
not to note that 1-shot watcher is extremely swingy as either it kills a scum or it does litterally nothing, especially with these roles, no TPr wants to target townWhite Flag : Carebear Edition is ongoing ! (13/13) hit me up if you wanna get on the priority replacement list / spectate
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congratsIn post 1785, Psyche wrote: i saved my watch for D2White Flag : Carebear Edition is ongoing ! (13/13) hit me up if you wanna get on the priority replacement list / spectate
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nah no way outworld is lying, he kinda needs to be town to maintain a balance of power, at least with the setup as we currently know itWhite Flag : Carebear Edition is ongoing ! (13/13) hit me up if you wanna get on the priority replacement list / spectate
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Luca is still unknownIn post 1801, JacksonVirgo wrote:
Wdym by that last bit?In post 1799, Gypyx wrote: nah no way outworld is lying, he kinda needs to be town to maintain a balance of power, at least with the setup as we currently know itWhite Flag : Carebear Edition is ongoing ! (13/13) hit me up if you wanna get on the priority replacement list / spectate
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Multitasking scum is mostly a default these days, i'm 99% positive it doesn't mean anything significant about the setupIn post 1800, OutWorldER wrote: we can't no-lim here now that I've claimed because I cannot be healed under any circumstances and nobody gets anything from that NKA, unless Psyche hasn't used his shot/Hu Tao blocks my killer.
i should be more active but I'm currently mulling over which claims could be real or not, and if it's possible that all of them are real or not. My first instinct is that there would be too many confirm-able towns should all claims be real + the vig but also adding more PR's to a setup does weaken my Neapolitan significantly so I'm sort of at an impasse. Both Watcher and JK make sense in a setup with multi-tasking scum and I was speccing a Tracker/Watcher pretty heavily from the start of the game. Watcher could also semi-confirm JK/Neapolitan target if it sees one of our shots so I'm not actually sure if Psyche's claim is fake or not.
also the interaction Ketchup brought up I think does have merit in that town could just lose both Nea and JK in one fell swoop should JK + Watcher target me were I to claim D1, only getting a single scum lim as compromise.White Flag : Carebear Edition is ongoing ! (13/13) hit me up if you wanna get on the priority replacement list / spectate
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Black thought she was slick trynda take us away from figuring out psyche's claim is bogus (this is exagerrated for the sake of comedy)White Flag : Carebear Edition is ongoing ! (13/13) hit me up if you wanna get on the priority replacement list / spectate
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