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dumb read to get this going
if black was svs with CSF then she'd have talked with her already in their PT and would therefore not say its been too longI'll tie your legs
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dumb read #2In post 9, DragonEater70 wrote: Also I was about to note that I have FINALLY rolled scum with Black but then I saw this:
Why you gotta ruin my fun, Datisi
(for the record, I am scum with Black. But like, only in my imagination)
if DE was scum with anyone, he wouldn't say he is scum with black in his imagination cause that's not very nice with his scum partnerI'll tie your legs
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which btw is me
(in my imagination)I'll tie your legs
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I have a locktown on page 1 and I'm not sorryI'll tie your legs
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oh no a stirner boyI'll tie your legs
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you're playing the scum partners bit kinda hard to be scum, and that's not the sort of thing thats intuitively townread so the reason you're doing it is not because you're trying to get townreads, but because you have no scum partners so you get to joke abt it freelyIn post 17, DragonEater70 wrote: Hi Kay! Hyped to finally play together!
What did you read as AI?In post 13, Gimli wrote: I have a locktown on page 1 and I'm not sorry
you've also made the dumb read #3 which was both a jokingly hypothetical associative read and also kind of neat
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In post 19, DragonEater70 wrote: Gotcha.
I am trying out a new strategy this game of being stingy with townreads (based on a post by Dannflor in my Mafia Discussion thread), so I am going to say that this thought process is NAI (but I still wanna townread you deep inside. Being stingy with townreads is HARD).I'll tie your legs
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I didn't even remember that gameIn post 37, DragonEater70 wrote: Also I am kinda doubtful he'd lock town me this early but I am not sure WHY I am doubtful of that because I KNOW he has locktowned me early in the past. But also as scum he'd be aware of this and intentionally locktown me to imitate his town game. Which is why I'm like pretty meh on the whole thing.
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I killed RVS and you should thank me for it btw (I hate it)In post 49, DragonEater70 wrote: I like to soeedrun through RVS and you should know that by now.I'll tie your legs
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lmao
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I have a lot more dumb where I got that dumb from if you're interested
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can we go back to doing AI stuff?I'll tie your legs
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I wanna find the townies and not jump on any wagons for now but I see what you're sayingIn post 90, DragonEater70 wrote: Yeah I'm not TRing DK at all for this... uh, let's call it a "stylish catch up". Hence the vote becoming serious. Ivd really appreciate you jumping on the wagon, Gimli.I'll tie your legs
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honestly I don't think creating pressure wagons for the sake of it work on most playersIn post 97, DragonEater70 wrote:
WutIn post 93, Gimli wrote:
I wanna find the townies and not jump on any wagons for now but I see what you're sayingIn post 90, DragonEater70 wrote: Yeah I'm not TRing DK at all for this... uh, let's call it a "stylish catch up". Hence the vote becoming serious. Ivd really appreciate you jumping on the wagon, Gimli.
How do you "find the townies" without forcing some AI content to happen
and its a good way to make scum appear towny and escape from the flip cause they 'reacted well to pressure'
if kage is an alt and a seasoned player I don't think it matters if we wagon them or not
but I do see what you're saying about them, I'm just... finding townies firstI'll tie your legs
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In post 101, DragonEater70 wrote: VOTE: Gimli
I will switch back to DK if anyone wants to help me push her since I am 1.6 times as much confident on her as I am confident on Gimli. Also Gimli if you want me to unvote all you have to do is vote DK.I'll tie your legs
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the proletariat is always sweatingIn post 107, Cat Scratch Fever wrote:I'm mostly just getting sweaty vibes tbh
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I can see the reasons for the DK vote; her catch up was long (relatively) but very fluffy.I'll tie your legs
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getting townvibes from CSF
want to townread dannflor but that would be incredibly stupidI'll tie your legs
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I agree with CSF on kay, I think all her entrances in the game felt like she is excusing herself from the gameI'll tie your legs
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I'll never forget how much you owned me that other game in 2020 under the ahsoka altIn post 113, Dannflor wrote: Townreading me would not be incredibly stupid why would you think so
I know you do the vibing as a townie when you're scum too well for me to parse outI'll tie your legs
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VOTE: kayjayqueue
its probably this and someone who hasnt posted yetI'll tie your legs
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do you have reads tho, kay?In post 125, KayJayQueue wrote: Okay well since it’s a micro, these busses can’t get too long or you’ll actually kill me so please stop.
I think the game has had a lot of AI content and yet you gave no inputI'll tie your legs
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otoh I kinda dig this reaction to being wagoned, doesnt feel like a scum reacting to itIn post 129, Gimli wrote:
do you have reads tho, kay?In post 125, KayJayQueue wrote: Okay well since it’s a micro, these busses can’t get too long or you’ll actually kill me so please stop.
I think the game has had a lot of AI content and yet you gave no input
VOTE: hu tao
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In post 137, KayJayQueue wrote:
You may see things as AI but I’ve only played with 2 of these people so for everyone else, I can’t tell if it’s their personality, their play style or something that would indicate to me that they are scum. If you say there has been a lot, I can honestly say I can’t pinpoint much if any yet. If that’s going to make me a target or read as using being new as an excuse for being scum, I don’t know what else I can do. But it gets a little tiring when everything I do is construed as faking my inexperience or using it as an excuse, and that being used as a scumread on me.In post 129, Gimli wrote:
do you have reads tho, kay?In post 125, KayJayQueue wrote: Okay well since it’s a micro, these busses can’t get too long or you’ll actually kill me so please stop.
I think the game has had a lot of AI content and yet you gave no input
This isn’t just about this game, it’s been in every game so I’m sorry for being a bit exhausted from defending myself from those specific accusations.
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pedit: yes nice read, black
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not this time, pinky promiseIn post 142, Black wrote: Gimli if you are scum I refuse to be pocketed by youI'll tie your legs
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I wanna say (may, hu tao, DK) is probably maybe hopefully where all the scum areI'll tie your legs
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ignore gimli he is just gonna sit here and be black's double voter todayI'll tie your legs
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I like what may is doing here, she can be in the townpileI'll tie your legs
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also I do agree DE's posts are bad. I still think they're bad in a towny way but I can maybe see this being scum.
I kinda liked how hu tao defended herselfI'll tie your legs
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VOTE: dragoneater
actually bad enough posts to be just scum in this game
@ahsoka: you called me sweaty early on as a maybe scummy thing. how sweaty would you say DE is in this game, from 0 to 5?I'll tie your legs
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sorry, dannflorI'll tie your legs
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anyway I'll be here later to properly solve thisI'll tie your legs
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I never said your posts were bad when you're town, mate. I said your posts are bad here. this last post to me for instance is overly emotional and a little hypocritical cause you're voting me and you're overreacting to me voting you as if it's some kind of insult.
as I said I'll solve in a bit, maybe I shouldn't immediately post my reactions as soon as I woke upI'll tie your legs
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but like, you're one of my favorite players, I never insulted your towngame, and I didn't say you make bad posts when you're town. I'm talking about this game only.In post 206, DragonEater70 wrote:
The reaction is to calling it towny not to the vote. Then I also saw the vote and wrote about that.In post 204, Gimli wrote: I never said your posts were bad when you're town, mate. I said your posts are bad here. this last post to me for instance is overly emotional and a little hypocritical cause you're voting me and you're overreacting to me voting you as if it's some kind of insult.
as I said I'll solve in a bit, maybe I shouldn't immediately post my reactions as soon as I woke up
as I said to dannflor, you'resweatyhere. I never saw you act like this, and I never saw you being scum, so maybe this is it?I'll tie your legs
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when have I ever called your posts bad, even, ever?In post 207, DragonEater70 wrote: Yes you are saying it's towny for me to have bad posts. Are you saying it's only towny for me to have bad posts this specific game and not in general?
I said they were maybe bad in a towny way in this game specifically cause they are coming off as very much all over the place in a way I have never seen you act before.
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scratch my other post, I think it could be KJQ/DK actuallyI'll tie your legs
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flipping DK today is the best bet at hitting scum imoI'll tie your legs
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nah actually its not kay
@black: you still holding that hu tao scumread strong? did anything she say afterwards soften that read?
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pointlessly rude to DE in a way my experience tells me comes from town a lotIn post 246, Black wrote:
Nothing Hu said made me feel better about her but the read itself isn't very strong. Would still prefer her over others atmIn post 244, Gimli wrote: nah actually its not kay
@black: you still holding that hu tao scumread strong? did anything she say afterwards soften that read?
I find her townread on you particularly convincing for some reason
Why is May town?
I think I was enjoying her posts before that, also. I liked the places where she felt DE was perhaps being scummy, and how she retracted that scumread without trying to appease to him.I'll tie your legs
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what about DK?In post 257, Hu Tao wrote: I still prefer Gimli based on everything I saidI'll tie your legs
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I just like birdsIn post 251, Hu Tao wrote:
Another parrotIn post 199, Gimli wrote: also I do agree DE's posts are bad. I still think they're bad in a towny way but I can maybe see this being scum.
I kinda liked how hu tao defended herselfI'll tie your legs
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I'm not it, I'm pretty sure it's DK + 1
I don't think it's you atm, hu.
I guess it could be kay but I should note this post:
as kinda townyIn post 125, KayJayQueue wrote: Okay well since it’s a micro, these busses can’t get too long or you’ll actually kill me so please stop.
if you don't find it towny, try squinting really hard or turning your laptop or phone sideways
I can see the scumreads on kjq and I think out of all the players it has been the less towny one, other than DK who I think is just scum at this point.I'll tie your legs
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I'm actually pretty decent at scum and don't need to parrot anyone the way you're suggesting I amIn post 263, Hu Tao wrote: She's very good at posting towny posts and I learned that lesson last game when she was scum. But idk. I'll see what others have to say. I still think you're scummy because of what you've been doing. Unless you can post a town game where you parrot as much as you have hereI'll tie your legs
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9 posts with one appeasy-looking read (townreading me) and nothing else, seems to be just trying to blend in and get on people's good sidesIn post 264, Dannflor wrote: gimli can you summarize your DK scum read for me
+ the other 7 slots I see as much townier so DK is probably scum via POE
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In post 268, Dannflor wrote:
did i miss may retracting her scum read on DE??In post 258, Gimli wrote: I liked the places where she felt DE was perhaps being scummy, and how she retracted that scumread without trying to appease to him.
to me its clear that may switched to townreading DE because of course everyone is townreading DE after considering what his emotional tells mean wrt his alignment.In post 234, May wrote: I refused to play the game for a bit then decided to tunnel town and do nothing else
or maybe I'm misreading what may actually meant with that sentence since its all kinda sarcastic, idk.I'll tie your legs
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I understood what sweaty meant and understood it wasn't for trying hard
I knew my early thoughts were pretty weak and talking about them while simultaneously downplaying them is a way to get them across without having to read a lot of 'its too early for that gimli is just throwing bad thoughts left and right'
so yeah there's certainly something self aware about my initial posts, given I'm playing on a site and on this current timeline of 'RVS' that's baffling and senseless but metaI'll tie your legs
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I said enough about Kay, I think
that big paragraph about her feeling exhausted with being pushed looked extremely towny at first, but then black came up with reasonable meta of her playing this exact same card as scum before.
given hu tao has become increasingly townie my kay read, even though its still sort of a townlean, was pushed to the bottom of my readsI'll tie your legs
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considering how dannflor is playing his cards rn, if kay does become townier I'll say dannflor is a decent candidate at being scum with kage, and is trying a d1 powerplay so that kage won't flip, going on the most sussed slot with momentum on it (me)I'll tie your legs
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its just annoyingIn post 279, Dannflor wrote:
why did you want to avoid that specifically?In post 275, Gimli wrote: I knew my early thoughts were pretty weak and talking about them while simultaneously downplaying them is a way to get them across without having to read a lot of 'its too early for that gimli is just throwing bad thoughts left and right'I'll tie your legs
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yes it doesIn post 280, Dannflor wrote:
this doesn't answer why your read on her flipped like 3 times in the space of an hourIn post 277, Gimli wrote: I said enough about Kay, I think
that big paragraph about her feeling exhausted with being pushed looked extremely towny at first, but then black came up with reasonable meta of her playing this exact same card as scum before.
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okayIn post 283, Hu Tao wrote: Parroting doesn't mean you're bad at scum. It's just scummy behavior.I'll tie your legs
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you were never in my town listI'll tie your legs
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this is what my solve looked likeIn post 238, Gimli wrote:KayJayQueue
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im now crossing hu tao as a townie and uncrossing kayjay, I actually uncrossed kayjay in my very next post
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its opportunistic as all hell if im right and kage is scumIn post 287, Dannflor wrote: i also don't get your read on me or why i was ever in your town list to begin with or why im conditionally(?) scum now
you are going guns blazing on the only slot you can flip here that isn't kage, i think, because hu has definitely swayed people from flipping her today
and I know how 9ers look like and I know how bad it is when your scum buddy flips
so if kage is scum, and kage will inevitably flip, I think you have to flip nextI'll tie your legs
Keep you against my chest-
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I bet you wont even flip me btwIn post 293, Dannflor wrote: i could flip any slot in the game if i wanted to
i just think you are scum
we'll seeI'll tie your legs
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I'm about to see a classIn post 298, Dannflor wrote: where are you gimli
if its just kay and kage this game is kind of a boreI'll tie your legs
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I woke up and I was grumpily reading through DE's postsIn post 301, Cat Scratch Fever wrote:
This post did surprise me in a "it came out of left field" way. What are the bad posts?In post 200, Gimli wrote: VOTE: dragoneater
actually bad enough posts to be just scum in this game
@ahsoka: you called me sweaty early on as a maybe scummy thing. how sweaty would you say DE is in this game, from 0 to 5?
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I feel like the parroting case wasn't entirely generous. If you dig into anyone's ISO, I suspect there will be parroting. I do remember Gimli townreading DE and Black early, which I think were new?
And Gimli's POE solve is also very similar to mine. I don't really feel like he is scum
I felt he was overly wishy washy with his read and vote on kay, calling things AtE and NAI but also voting her
what do you think of hu tao, btw? you towning on her?I'll tie your legs
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