Mini 2331 - Touhou UPick: Anonymous Edition (Game Over)

[Yuuka Kazami]

Kinda think Yuuka as scum would be positioned well enough to not have to go through the effort of rereading a whole bunch of yesterday including rvs. But also I don't really see her getting any solid conclusions from her reread so far (top of page 138), and I'm not sure what's the point then. Still a townlean but I'd not resist a vote on them I guess.

Confused. I would consider myself vulnerable but I also need to take it slow here due to irl challenges. No pushing myself, no stressing.

[Yuuka Kazami]

If I end up dying because I can’t hyper post that’s okay. There’s always another game.

[Yuuka Kazami]

I was very front and center on both wagons, so I’m confused why anyone would think I hung back.

Where do you think you were?

On top of both wagons, talking to Ichirin and trying to figure out what their deal was, being against the Kagerou wagon when that was a thing, albeit mostly vibes that until they claimed, then against yours because all your posts came off as funeral posts. And because i had a singular dream. One stump buddy I kept casing koshi but inexplicably didn’t want to wagon there.

We’re not scum partners, so. I’ll just say it’s been very up and down there.

[Yuuka Kazami]

I thought the stump buddy thing was a nice political compromise. Too.

[Yuuka Kazami]

Really hoping day two doesn't end up in a content drought the way D1 had in the middle.

It won’t, probably. I do need time though.

[Yuuka Kazami]

Gunna write down that they’re a little less creative when they’re scum.
I guess I should’ve realized they were more …I dunno actually. Hmm, well it’s nice to have something to analyze.

This one came off as something I don't see writing about a partner deep wolf that just flipped out of nowhere?

I’m town but this is super surfacey lol.
Anyone can say that.

[Yuuka Kazami]

Why couldn’t I have faked being surprised that they died. Obviously I’d have known they died because they’d probably have been informed in the scum PT that they could no longer post.

Didn’t you hate reaction tests? Why aren’t all these ignorance spews sending you up the moon?

[Yuuka Kazami]

I want to murder Yuuka and cant tell if its a scum read or bitter bird.

Por que no los dos?

[Yuuka Kazami]

waiting for the third mafia to surrender

Where is the second mafia member?

[Yuuka Kazami]

Shrug! To note this isn’t an informed smug shrug this is a I dunno shrug.

[Yuuka Kazami]

We can’t kill anyone because you asked.

[Yuuka Kazami]

I just watched that soccer video again. You should too. Because the ending is, well sometimes life mimics fiction I suppose.

[Yuuka Kazami]

I liked 246.

[Yuuka Kazami]

I find the likelihood of scum being inspired by that video to be less than 0. It’s just a funny coincidence that Aya has the rebound.

[Yuuka Kazami]

Today yeah, but it’s not like there isn’t a tomorrow.

[Yuuka Kazami]

Kagerou do you have any takes or opinion:? You’ve kind of dropped off for awhile now.

[Yuuka Kazami]

I really don’t think we can coast to a win based off a single scum kill and 2 confirmed town.
I’ve lost in more favorable circumstances.

[Yuuka Kazami]

@Kagerou is your Clownpiece vote a remnant of RVS and if not, can you go into why you're still voting there?

my clownpiece vote has been serious from the beginning

can you explain why?

i'd rather keep it vague for now but on top of not looking like they're solving (which granted maybe that's just how i view things) they've been trying to distract people from pushing fowards the game

i mean i would argue that at the time of Clownpiece's entrance they were the first one to actually do something ~spicy and give people in the game something to talk about (outside of the miller claim, in which the majority of the discussion came later)

that may be an overly generous interpretation of their early posts and i'm nowhere near married to that townread but based on that i am struggling to buy that this was your initial reason for voting when i viewed it in the exact opposite way

i've disagreed with a lot of your takes so far so while i will respect you keeping the reasons vague for now i'm hoping you'll be able to fully elaborate at some point so i can actually parse if there's something more to that or if it's merely a playstyle difference

This post doesn’t really sound like they’re talking to a scum buddy or to a town’s person talking about a scum buddy. But it’s small movement of the needle.

[Yuuka Kazami]

Eh, their approach to dai doesn’t really feel like svs.

[Yuuka Kazami]

Also. Who is the second confirmed town.
Aya’s the first since rebound makes no sense for scum.

But I dunno who the other is, there are candidates but not like, confirmed, confirmed town.
Just likely town.

[Yuuka Kazami]

Sigh, and who was that?

[Yuuka Kazami]

That’s fine.
Okay so, Aya rebounded on you and Tenshi died because kagerou shot them.

Remind me again why a lot of these abilities worked but mine didn’t?

[Yuuka Kazami]

Good night. Dai.

[Yuuka Kazami]

It kind of comes across like you already knows that all three of us are town, so your goal is not to sort us, and your actual goal in this situation is just to change our mind by finding something to talk about/focus on (in this case Eternity Larva) to "show" that you are solving.

[Yuuka Kazami]

Oops. Meant to quote but double clicked. It doesn’t sound like an informed push. But

[Yuuka Kazami]

Sanae is looking worse on second look.
How they’re interacting with the game and how Larvae is acting around them feels off.

[Yuuka Kazami]

Could be intentional on Larvae’s part though. /:

[Yuuka Kazami]

I was leaning yuuka but ya I do just think sanae is wolf over yuuka

Why?

[Yuuka Kazami]

I'm kinda busy irl till tommorrow but will say look at: Reisen, Kaguya, Yuuka, and Marisa tomorrow

I’ve gotten a lot of shit for my snark this game.
But it’s really hard not to tease you for listing out four people to look at before dying.

[Yuuka Kazami]

I saw some people saying Yuuka/Sanae were never SvS, anybody care to explain that read?

It’d be weird if we defended each other and interacted with each other as much as we did as scum. I don’t have much stake in this particular persuasion if Sanae flips scum I’m happy, if Sanae flips town, it gets harder for me and I’m not particularly worried about ever dying if Sanae is eliminated and flips scum because it doesn’t fit really on a narrative level. ~_~ rather I think it’d be relatively easy for me to defend myself later.

Imo. But this is only true if they’re scum.

[Yuuka Kazami]

Okay I should also note that I targeted Daiyousei with my active ability last night but I misread what it does so it's actually useless. However I actually read my PM today so hopefully next night I can do something useful. Or not! Maybe I'm just Vanilla Scarlet.

P-edit: You are so very welcome. Since we are not killing you until later, feel free to step up your solving! I may even go back to thinking you are super cool like I did back at the beginning of the game, when I called you Sanae-Sama.

This is tonal whiplash. But I don’t really know what, if anything to make of it. Can’t you two bicker in the scum PT if that’s what that is?

[Yuuka Kazami]

Oops.

No stress express Yuuka.

~_~ chill thoughts.

[Yuuka Kazami]

Also for when I flip town, there's a missing roleblock or something on me last night that has not been claimed, and there's like 4 people who haven't claimed yet. Just putting that out there.

I was told 'I used the spellcard, but it did not activate'

This sentence is very confusing. You said you were blocked at the beginning of the day yeah? On account of you not being dead you see.

[Yuuka Kazami]

You wouldn’t lie about trying to kill yourself would you? *squint*

[Yuuka Kazami]

Nobody lies about self tree stumping.
It’s unethical.

[Yuuka Kazami]

@Marisa acknowledged. that’s a lot of reasons.

[Yuuka Kazami]

No, I believe you’re telling the truth because there’s nobody on this green earth that would lie about that.

[Yuuka Kazami]

Anyway, somebody already pointed out that Tenshi seemed to have an ability that blocked active skills. Some people have gotten through while others have not. Your ability and mine both got the same message, so quite frankly unless there are two role blockers (and one of them is exceedingly weird) it was Tenshi or someone else has a mass role block like ability.

[Yuuka Kazami]

Aya said their ability activated before Tenshi’s did. On account of being a fast birb, which fits the flavor.

The fruit I dunno.
I thought larvae had an ability when I looked when I guess the person that mentioned receiving a fruit would have read that already and know it’s not that one, or they didn’t read it or I’m not reading close enough etc etc.

[Yuuka Kazami]

Like I have no more information than - I tried to use the role. The effect didn't happen

So I don't think it's the same thing as whatever hit you

Nope, that sounds pretty much exactly like the message I received from the mod.

[Yuuka Kazami]

Yes, they didn’t tell me I failed to receive a result either, I had to do the same thing.

[Yuuka Kazami]

I’m trying to help you put together what happened last night based off of half paid attention information I was reading in the thread.

[Yuuka Kazami]

Someone mentioned receiving fruit and I recall Larvae had a flipped role ability that was a fruit that did nothing.

I forgot who said they got it.
If they’d been blocked, they wouldn’t have gotten a fruit and there did not appear to be a modifier for why the fruit went through.

So either there is another fruit vendor person or, I dunno.

[Yuuka Kazami]

Oh.
Why did that go through?

And does that mean Larva both shot at someone and threw a dango.

I forgot if it was a reflect or a redirect.

I don’t think Larvae needed to be the shooter and I don’t think they’d have liked to risk their position so I’ll go with redirect.

[Yuuka Kazami]

Whelp, I don’t feel good.

I shall go do something less taxing like,
Sitting very still I guess.

Peace.

I don’t really get their strong willed night ability.

Marisa when did you say you received the fruit?

[Yuuka Kazami]

She said she got it right at daystart

Okay so that doesn’t explain why their dango went through.

[Yuuka Kazami]

I don't think Tenshi globally roleblocked based on the fact that went through

I’m not lying about what happened to me tho.

So like.

I find it difficult to believe that there’s another role out there with multi block or multiple players that role blocked.

I think a towns person that specifically wanted you to live would’ve just claimed that they stopped you on purpose

[Yuuka Kazami]

Slept all day.

Kaguya making sure I understand you here, you’re saying that you think their activation of different facets of their role don’t make sense if they were blocked?

[Yuuka Kazami]

More specifically I'd expect her to keep her spellcard shot when she's saying she doesn't have the spellcard shot anymore

Wait, Sanae says they lost it?

[Yuuka Kazami]

I mostly just think Sanae is scum with Larvae. Because they talked to each other funny.

[Yuuka Kazami]

But I haven’t really found another lead rather I don’t really see Larvae giving out partner vibes on other players. So. That’s weird.

[Yuuka Kazami]

I am entering super neutrality.
A state of total and complete indifference.

[Yuuka Kazami]

I read it but I felt like I wasn’t fading into the background at the end of day one, I was, like, on top of everything the whole time. The space you’re saying I occupied, I wasn’t.

So I don’t know how to respond to it other than thinking it’s a sort of generalization of a concept misapplied that either alignment could pop out in 5 seconds.

[Yuuka Kazami]

You protected Kaguya?

[Yuuka Kazami]

This game is so fucking confusing. Goddamn.

[Yuuka Kazami]

I love it.

[Yuuka Kazami]

So your ability went through.
What the fuck is going on.

Ahhhh.

Aghhh

Why didn’t Marita say anything? Ahhh?? Aghhh.

[Yuuka Kazami]

Kaguya*

Not marita.

[Yuuka Kazami]

Why wouldn’t you giving them a strong man inform them of that fact?

[Yuuka Kazami]

I have a head ache but I don’t think it’s from this game or the above statements.

[Yuuka Kazami]

But the timing sure is suspicious.

[Yuuka Kazami]

Oh.

[Yuuka Kazami]

Remind me, you bind to someone then you get a strong willed protect that permanently stays on that target as long as Kaguya is alive and you’re alive.

Then it just becomes a normal protect if kaguya dies, and the whole thing collapses if you die?

[Yuuka Kazami]

That’s no fun.

[Yuuka Kazami]

The idea of not handing out a strong willed not the idea of your role in general since it’s neat, imo.

[Yuuka Kazami]

Anyway, *presses skip on strongman conversation* not having that. It’s a misunderstanding on my part and that opinion is irrelevant.

Just have your jam session. I’ll be over here.
Existing in a state of neutrality and generally taking it easy.

[Yuuka Kazami]

To be clear though your ability did work and you did bind to them, was that an active card, is there anything in it that implies it would supersede Tenshi’s ability?

[Yuuka Kazami]

N1: my ability didn’t work. I targeted Clownpiece.
I was likely visited by Tenshi. Based on text.

Note nobody else has claimed Tenshi has visited them, except Aya, but that turned out to be kagerou.

So, since nobody else is saying anything, Tenshi probably visited me.

I hope this helps you in this confusing world.

[Yuuka Kazami]

Has anyone else claimed they were blocked.

Or was it just me and Sanae?

Kagerou’s shot went through and they stole Aya’s camera.

[Yuuka Kazami]

VOTE: Sanae

Please note. I’m not confident.

Thank you.

[Yuuka Kazami]

Okay.
Did you want me to unvote or?

[Yuuka Kazami]

UNVOTE:

[Yuuka Kazami]

Yuuka's vote is very meh

Thank you for noticing.

In the post I made with the engagement disagreement I referenced the different things I was doing and thinking. Providing specific posts and saying I was engaged wouldn’t be much different. It’s more concrete I suppose, but it’s easy enough to check or verify, presumably you read my posts and can point out where specifically I didin’t seem engaged at the end of the day, no?

[Yuuka Kazami]

I read it but I felt like I wasn’t fading into the background at the end of day one, I was, like, on top of everything the whole time. The space you’re saying I occupied, I wasn’t.

So I don’t know how to respond to it other than thinking it’s a sort of generalization of a concept misapplied that either alignment could pop out in 5 seconds.

Can you share where you think you were being very active and present at the end of day1?

Ah, very active is quite different.

Present however should be easy for you to see, I kept popping out and in every few hours. While saying I couldn’t really do so because of circumstances which didn’t stop me but it did lead to genuine interruptions that I normally wouldn’t have had.

[Yuuka Kazami]

I wasn’t present at the flip for example, just points when my attention was not on the game. Because it was on work.

Yes, you have correctly identified that my vote on you is lazy. I could have just not voted you but it goes against my general sense of responsibility not to participate/vote someone just because I don’t like responsibility.
Still doing it. ~_~ but I’m certainly not going to fight for it if a bunch of players turn the ship around either.

[Yuuka Kazami]

I specifically pushed for Ichirin over you. So you just didn’t read that spot.

[Yuuka Kazami]

I guess we’re both lazy
I’m also too lazy to actually show you where that’s the case. So you can be less lazy and check yourself. ~_~)/

Rude!

Anyway, still on the no stress express sorry for being agitated etc etc. hang in there.

[Yuuka Kazami]

I meant I should hang in there.

I’m annoyed at you for calling me lazy even though it’s true and even though you’re also lazy because you didn’t read my posts before accusing me of not taking a side on the eod wagon.

But those are emotions and emotions fade away- as they must- because I need chill to get better and stay that way.

So I’m chill Yuuka.
Nice to meet you. ~_~/
Eh

[Yuuka Kazami]

Kill Ichirin, I need a ghost town buddy badly.

Kill Ichirin, kill ichirin, kill ichirin.

We’re not doing a no lim.
Though I get the possibility is just being presented.

I would prefer ichirin to Sanae by, I suppose a little over a quarter more.

I wouldn't call this 'pushing' Icirin or you having particularly strong feelings about what happened

I’m scoffing at you.

[Yuuka Kazami]

Huh, I thought scoffing was like a sound effect. stronger than I meant, but still, those are amazing posts to pick to say I didn’t take a side.

[Yuuka Kazami]

25% preference is a lot to me.
As is “kill Ichirin” and I’d normally like to not take sides but I want this” as other posts, along with other small defenses in your favor while still having doubts on Ichirin.

As mentioned and this will continue to be the case, the wagon at EOD obviously mattered to me. Regardless of how you’ve reached the incorrect conclusion that I wasn’t.

It is patently silly to look at those posts and say I think Yuuka was saying “eh, I could pick either one really”

[Yuuka Kazami]

Yeah but like, it doesn’t fit, you’re blatantly trying to fit a square peg in a round hole and I’m just like, Wtf are they doing.

There are plenty of arguments that make more sense to me, but this one’s not really one of them. I get internally and externally I was pretty conflicted and I guess that could come off as “not caring much about the wagon” because other I’d take a more I guess confident stance, but then I started nagging about my preferred between the two and you just read it and made a wild take that I didn’t care about it. *psyduck*

[Yuuka Kazami]

Can you imagine I'm town please - what do you think scum were doing EoD1?

It depends on who they are as people.
I might get complacent, but more likely than not I’d have taken clown piece’s position and been unwilling to move off of Ichirin after being called out, but it’s in general unique to me that I prefer directly pushing town off as a cliff as scum rather than letting town do that for me.

It just really depends. They might not have posted, they might have jockeyed for most influential position after the flip/try to secure your flip after the dust settles from all the role actions.

They might be “lazy” and park their vote on you in lieu of better ideas or they might explicitly try to move the wagon on to another town to create a false choice that they’ve made rather than one a towns person might make.

[Yuuka Kazami]

So everyone is ready for the road trip except Marisa who said she would be five minutes because she had to use the restroom but now it's been like twenty minutes and we are wondering if we should send a search party. Got it.

They said tomorrow and it’s not tomorrow.

[Yuuka Kazami]

They could also try to half heartedly convince everyone to vote their scum partner in a misguided attempt to earn credibility down the line for a solo win.

There’s a lot of hypotheticals and narratives , but I don’t know understand what each player is doing and how it advances their win condition.
I don’t really see anyone doing anything particularly scummy right now, perhaps just due to the game power dynamics shifting from something more equal to concentrated in the more likely to be town folk.

[Yuuka Kazami]

I guess in an alternative universe where I was hypothetically less in need of being chill I would’ve shaken clown piece for using that ability until an answer fell out rather than just letting them coast on a town read just in case it was a prerequisite for another ability/a set up.

But that seemed fairly far fetch’d anyway.

[Yuuka Kazami]

In hypothetical Sanae town world I would be less confused on Marisa but oddly enough I’m not sure if I’d be more or less likely to be scum reading their approach. So I guess I’d still be just as confused.

Kaguya’s approach has been very unique. I’m not sure what to make of their collapse of confidence that sort of wasn’t a collapse of confidence when it came to whether your role was bullshit or not.

Uncharitably it could be that they need to show indecision but not actually be indecisive.

Charitably, there’s no real clear answer so hesitating and then reinflating, revaluing the read through something else makes sense I guess.

[Yuuka Kazami]

Dai’s play makes sense to me, I’m not sure it’s actually something that scum couldn’t occupy, but town tend to occupy it. Surprising given I was leaning scum on them before this dp.

Then again I’m not bouncing off as hard to what they’re saying now as opposed to then. So it’s not actually surprising on consideration.

[Yuuka Kazami]

Reisen is the player that seems the most silo’d this dp, I’m not sure if it’s intentional that they’re popping in and giving takes that don’t really require responses or if that’s just a coincidence. I tend to think that kind of subtle discouragement of discourse can be a scum sign, but it’s hard for me to even really know if I’m reading that right.

Kagerou has gone down but only because of their absence really, I suppose a crux of a read shouldn’t be based in a vig role and whether the mod would give them the ability as scum or not.

And what would counter balance that. I think conventionally I’m a little neutral but it still feels like this is like saying, sure the bullet bounced off of koishi but how do you really know scum didn’t shoot their partner eh? Ehhhh?

And I’m just like. No.
No that’s weird.

[Yuuka Kazami]

Pedit I really don't think you should be the lim here

i agree!

but i am not and never will be in the town block poe so i'd rather yeet myself sooner than later so mafia's endgame path is that much harder for not having me around to mislim

I don't follow, since, if you, as town, elevate yourself out of the PoE through sheer chutzpah all the better right? That improves your win condition.

[Yuuka Kazami]

`_`)/\(`_`

I was going to make a not with that attitude joke, but then I got bored of cliche statements and made the above instead.

[Yuuka Kazami]

`_`)/\(`_`

[Yuuka Kazami]

Everyone, it has been an hour.
As you all know we are now obligated to drop all our reads and immediately kill Marisa for leaving us all to dry out in the sun for too long.

[Yuuka Kazami]

VOTE: Sanae

E-1.

[Yuuka Kazami]

Reads are in 3699, nothing much has changed from my POV beyind a niggling fear the mechanics/mech clears are not as simple as they seem

Gl gl
Really empathize with the 'ceasing to be my problem' bit

Besides the bit about the mech clears not being as simple as they seem.
Like, what exactly could Koishi/Aya have been doing that doesn't make it crystal clear?
Aya says they redirected all night actions (or something like that) to Larvae, who promptly died and Koishi claimed a protective before.
Larvae is very unlikely to have taken a dive to get scum into a better position.

We have 2 mech clears, was there anyone else that was mechanically cleared that I missed?

[Yuuka Kazami]

Clown is in my pool, just unlikely.
Koishi and Aya are out of the pool.
Barring incredibly silly play.
But they've been pretty proactive and the tone is right, they aren't rushing the game along. They almost certainly solve themselves.

Don't get it.

[Yuuka Kazami]

I'm not clown piece, but I'd be looking at Clown, Kagerou, Marisa, Kaguya.

With an emphasis on Kagerou.

[Yuuka Kazami]

why not Reisen?
Because they're mad at me.

[Yuuka Kazami]

they claimed scum and I'm not sure their job could kick their ass so hard they wouldn't cease to exist/fail to try and solve.
I don't disagree with whoever said a scum vig is impossible here. It seems like a mistake/blind side.

And I'm still confused that they could take two actions at once apparently. They're worth looking at again, is my point.

[Yuuka Kazami]

I'm not clown piece, but I'd be looking at Clown, Kagerou, Marisa, Kaguya.

With an emphasis on Kagerou.

Clown and Marisa I actually think are town on reads

Why?

[Yuuka Kazami]

I'm not clown piece, but I'd be looking at Clown, Kagerou, Marisa, Kaguya.

With an emphasis on Kagerou.

Clown and Marisa I actually think are town on reads

Why?

Clown 1.0 was incredibly townie
Marisa - I don't know why she keeps flashwagoning as scum, or why she would start a wagon on me end of day1, and I think the indecisiveness is townie

I see what you mean with Marisa, though, in town Sanae world there isn't much reason not to develop a third wagon on town either.
It's a different, more unique niche sure, since they could just have filtered down to the "other" wagon, but scum may have already figured out who they wanted to shoot later, so being on Koishi would have hurt their credibility too.
So enter Sanae, 3rd credibility shot. It's a bit reachy of me to think that way though.

[Yuuka Kazami]

You can't?

[Yuuka Kazami]

Yeah
That's also why I'm not fighting this so hard, it'll be like 6:2 and not 5:3 tomorrow hopefully

This seems disingenuous to me, given a lot of your play this day phase can be summed up as "you're wrong, try again x(?)3-4"
Not that I find this scummy. I don't find struggling scummy, if anything I find it modestly townie.
So hesitating a lot here. But false dichotomies are for the birds. Even if you're town, I'm town and you ultimately didn't see that.

It occurs to me that we're on evens, right? So scum didn't have as much of a reason not to role block you.

Then again, without knowing Kagerou's relationship to the game it's hard to know why they would know we'd land on evens.

[Yuuka Kazami]

...Would Yukari/FF even design a game that could allow for 3 deaths in one night phase?

[Yuuka Kazami]

That would be 4 potential deaths in one night phase.

[Yuuka Kazami]

I mean the not trying to live thing,
I think it's ego protective if you're town, or super subtle play from scum/I genuinely am socially inept and completely misinterpreted you.
But to me you've been pretty argumentative and tried to shake people's read of you. You have spent a non-insignificant amount of time doing that.

So it's kind of like saying " I could beat them all up if I wanted, but I held back and took a strategic retreat for the good of the nation"
It saves face, but it kind of doesn't.

I don't know, I'm not good at understanding other people.

[Yuuka Kazami]

The way you worded it, as hopefully was a bit much though. On the 5:3 thing.
But we've had Ichirin, albeit that one was actually less egregious but this one was couched kind of comfortably so I might be putting more stock in that 'hopefully' and not seeing the context or giving the context its due weight there.

[Yuuka Kazami]

It's late, very late, but since the mod did it at midnight it only seems fair that I also post.

That's very, very unfortunate. Just so you know, I have information but it's not super relevant.

Happy to hash out why I'm town this day phase since it seems like we're taking a break.

[Yuuka Kazami]

Rather, I pretty much have to address the suspicion at this point. So, I'm here for that.

Also, overnight I went over all of Larvae's posts and I'm upset to say he did a pretty good job at covering his tracks.

[Yuuka Kazami]

It is a problem.
I'm just happy I wasn't wrong.

I'm going to let Aya set the pace and not ask about the neighborhoods, because I still don't think it makes sense for them to shoot Larvae. They could have gotten mechanically squished, it's simply not worth the risk.

I genuinely don't understand Sanae's view point in this regard.

[Yuuka Kazami]

Lmk when/if you want me to share what night action information I have.

It is only slightly relevant. It gives me more information but not significant other than just, looking for certain player behaviors as a supplement.

[Yuuka Kazami]

I self watched,
Clown piece visited me.

Nothing else happened.

[Yuuka Kazami]

One of my abilities is to be able to self check.
My first spell card did not work and was not refunded. N1.

[Yuuka Kazami]

Did clown commute night 1?

[Yuuka Kazami]

So, there was no way of knowing that they were a commuter/cop except either luck, day action or we play the wifom game. Outloud which I don't want to do. Gambling is bad kids.

[Yuuka Kazami]

I'm gonna sleep on the possibility of Yuuka being a PGO

I'm not. For one, I knew that Clown visited me, for two that would be *five* death roles and I would have been a whole lot more skeptical of Kagerou's claim, even if just because of pretend. Also, think about it thematically, my ability informs the player that I'm scum if they even visit me and then they die. Oh huh, that would actually be pretty trolly and funny and hey, has there been a revive role yet? Still, Why would I even notify everyone if I was a PGO beforehand.

On second thought it does make thematic sense given Yuuka's thing, but still no! Not a PGO, in addition, uh. where's the other kill?

@Marisa, Just because they say it's going to be crazy doesn't mean it's going to be, you know, *that* crazy. It was a passing thought.

[Yuuka Kazami]

If we assume I am town (Clownpiece was willing to assume that), and we assume Daiyousei is not going to reappear later, then we win this game by PoE by finding just one more townie. I have a thought on who I think this townie is but that is going to have to wait a bit while I let that thought stew.

Pedit: I'm assuming you're calling Yuuka a PGO because Clown died? But that implies Clown wasn't the NK target.

Hey, Townie here, you're voting the townie and you only need one of those. So why.

Also, about dai. I don't really get it. I've been that role a few times and I almost never use it because it seems marginally anti-town and, in this case, they were never going to get shot. are they just gambling on the easy route? It's possible they're in a neighborhood with someone I suppose. But I'd like the rationale there.

[Yuuka Kazami]

@Marisa, Just because they say it's going to be crazy doesn't mean it's going to be, you know, *that* crazy. It was a passing thought.

Well I kinda assumed it would be *that* crazy.

Sure, is that scummy though? your vote lacks... well anything, it's relatively substanceless and I assume that was done on purpose, but should I be engaging you if your approach here is saying, "don't engage me, I'm sheeping?"

[Yuuka Kazami]

I'm not a PGO.
I want to be super clear.
I self-watched last night, hence why I know that nobody else visited me except clown piece specifically.

Aya of course, knows that. Probably.
though you could make an educated guess, given they out right claimed who they'd be checking beforehand in thread,
but would I also know that nobody else visited me and know that nobody else would contradict that?
Probably not given I was next on the list of suspicion.

[Yuuka Kazami]

Hmm actually quick question, Marisa and Reisen can you claim the Disable Passives ability if that was you?

Pretty sure I have the full solve I just need this answered

Oh shit.
Please solve the game for me so I don't have to spend this whole day phase spamming.

[Yuuka Kazami]

Sure, is that scummy though? your vote lacks... well anything, it's relatively substanceless and I assume that was done on purpose, but should I be engaging you if your approach here is saying, "don't engage me, I'm sheeping?"

I am not voting you for the mech spec? I

am

was voting you because the presumed NK target sussed you and was killed over 2 semi-clears.

Yes, you can have more than one reason at a time, it seemed implied that you *also* thought that it was weird that I was skeptical of that though, so I assumed it weighed.
In some small way and I want to see why that is.

[Yuuka Kazami]

VOTE: Kaguya Houraisan

Plz don't move your vote if the suspicion is staying. Just because I'm here and around. Unlike *other town here* I fully plan to live until the end because, you know,
that's in my win condition.

[Yuuka Kazami]

The mech spec had no weight. I just felt like pointing it out.

Uh. I get the impulse to question things, I usually filter out those kinds of things though.
For example, I was active lurking when Kaguya was talking to Kagerou and removed...quips I was making along side them because how would that help me catch scum?

Well, not that ultra focused scum hunting is a thing unique to town, I make that mistake all the time.

[Yuuka Kazami]

Just to be clear, I moved my vote to Kaguya without any connection to the two posts you made prior to 4207. I saw those posts in pedit.

Okay, so absent any stimulus you just moved your vote because of your internal process.

[Yuuka Kazami]

I'm just waiting on Reisen here

Waiting excitedly for you to solve the game.

while you're waiting, what's with the total fixation on mech spec? Is this like an intentional thing you came into this game deciding to do because it's an anon game or is this just how you approach games in general?

[Yuuka Kazami]

Sure, if you ever want to you know,
engage with the I'm scum thing. I'm here.

Going on to do something much more productive.

A genuine paranoia spiral about Aya and Koishi. My favorite even though it's *horrifically* cliche, isn't or rather shouldn't happen this day phase and won't unless I'm feeling very, very, very

and also I'll just talk myself out of it.


But I am like, an investor that needs to be babied and coddled because I really want reassurance that there is simply *no way* that scum do that. You know in a slow talk way.

Traditionally, I'd like to just talk to Aya and Koishi about it. Talk through the math and why it's obviously a misplay even if the writing was on the wall.

I have bone in my throat about an ego thing with Sanae. But I only want to move past it if it's technical in soundness, not just because it would be mature of me to do so.

[Yuuka Kazami]

I would also like to ask if there is a way I can do this without being obnoxious not because I'm scum and want to avoid pissing people off but because I'd like to conduct myself well. But I'm not really sure how to do that. It's like, I want to smooth the edges of my personal flaws out of a misguided sense of idealism.

Mid game.
No that is a bad idea. Just do it instead of asking for help.

[Yuuka Kazami]

Okay.

So, back on day one.

Koishi and Aya are circling the drain right, but nothing is set in stone.
Larvae is in good position to wolf but could be disrupted.
It's impossible to know for sure but I find it very unlikely if it happened in a reasonable fashion that Larvae was the one that did the shooting, it makes more sense to avoid the different roles that could sniff you out.

Actually, and I'm sorry for this, it's just a role issue thing.
I understand there are spell cards, actives and passives and that you can, sometimes use spell cards and actives on the same way.
Does this mean that Larvae could not have done the shot because they gave the fruit to...
sigh someone helped me with this but I forgot again.

[Yuuka Kazami]

Well irregardless, Aya has a situational awareness, they understood the crux of where the pressure was coming form and outwardly resented it. I don't know how anger works for them in particular.

Some part of me thinks it's like, they're calmly writing in their notes PT while blowing up in thread and other times, it's well, actually I think I know the answer here. Probably legit but they can...Sort of divorce it? But it still gets in their gears. They said as much in thread. It's a true/false statement sort of thing, but could be either true or false without an alignment tag attached.

Now, probably Larvae does not like being scum. They could be talked into taking a dive as a surprise as a flounder,
I kind of explained already that I think they tried to channel how they felt overwhelmed by rolling scum by talking about how confusing the names are. But just because there's an emotional propensity for them to want to take the easy way out, that's not something they would actually do without a fuck ton of convincing. They know their general business. They'd put their foot down if they really thought it was a bad idea and mathematically *it is* a bad idea.

[Yuuka Kazami]

Does this mean that Larvae could not have done the shot because they gave the fruit to...
sigh someone helped me with this but I forgot again.

Larva couldn't have shot herself cause you can't self-target. Dango-wise it depends on if maf have inherent multitasking or not

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This idea didn't occur to me that you could shoot yourself. I kind of know you can't do that, even though in some scenarios where there's a gambit it would have some advantages outside of partner shot vig claim. or what not.
There's a few ways it could have happened.
1. aya or their partner shot Larvae.
2. Aya used a redirect that Larvae or their partner shot at Koishi.
3. Koishi used a self reflect that Larvae shot at them.

There are advantages and disadvantages and complications galore to any of these options. If you're going to actually do that and work through them. But I don't want to go through them all right now.

[Yuuka Kazami]

Some very good players have shot their partners before.
But most of them don't do it N1. I think. Any one ever experience or has any statistical knowledge about how many scum have shot their partners and how many of those shots were done N1?

Personally I have 0 experience with a scum partner shooting their partner mid game.

[Yuuka Kazami]

I'm kinda not interested in the Aya/Koishi cases cause it'll solve itself if they're still alive by ELO with no scumflips

I don't really think it qualifies as a case because the general groundwork hasn't been done.
the how dunnit, why dunnit, etc haven't been filled. I'm pretty much just looking at it and asking myself if it's possible and if it was possible, how would it have been done and what would the reasoning have been that is within the bounds of reasonableness, ish.

[Yuuka Kazami]

I believe gif has the "all players of the faction" rule informally as well. (As in, all three Mafia have to agree for that sort of play).

That's interesting. I think in general that kind of discussion with the parameters and players involved would always be pretty cordial.

[Yuuka Kazami]

Like where would you even get the confidence for that sort of play.
You take stock of where everybody is and you decide,

Koishi + Aya + larvae.
Koishi + Larvae + ???
Aya + Larvae + ???

The most beneficial is the first. They kind of had each other's backs before so it wouldn't have been much of a factor in making that sort of decision if only one of them is scum. Rather it would not have been a prominent factor in their decision to say I protected X.
It might have gotten them more on their side and they would have been more predisposed to believe it, but how much do you really need to weigh that when you're already a mile ahead. I mean I guess they did say in an elo situation they'd vote Aya over me, but...that only well this whole thing is unlikely just stop getting side tracked and letting that termination process get in the way while you're at it. ...Shouldn't part of me just listen to that voice and, mmm. There's a quote about process of elimination and however unlikely if you run out of other options it was that option. It's hard hard to know where that process stops. Oh well!

Let's do first,
Koishi designs a fake claim because they seem the type to make their own than take the mod's or use their actual role. Early day 1.

Well, thematically, speaking, Aya being a redirector does and does not make sense.
In some ways I guess because like, you're not the focus, other people are, so if someone asks the press a question it's just going to get redirected. and the speed portion of the ability is thematically appropriate. Albeit still up in the air about the Tenshi role block thing. Hopefully, that gets squared away next day phase.
Things progress, you need to flip the script 2 scum alive until end game is better than 1 deep wolf. But this gets into a sort of politics Aya would still need to get back into the swing of things, would they even talk about that in a scum PT? They need to carry, if they go through with it.

1. So motivation. Well if the plan was made when would it have been formulated right after the lock? No, it sticks, it's sticky. Later in the day maybe even night phase, they didn't really pick up until D2. Not really able to know progression speed. Koishi on support.

aside, sometimes silly people think that just because two players talk to each other or hit it off they must be scum with them. This would, largely be the case with Aya and Koishi, which I find doubtful both on a statistical level but also just because I don't like the thinking and it's often wrong but for some reason people get drawn to the reasoning. they're both capable of interacting with partners in good ways. So it's not like they can't be partners together if only looking at the side of things related to, "these players would always avoid each other," it's sadly not that simple. But, one lense.

That first part is kind of reaching on the redirector portion. Speed use, redirect, some other reasoning is at play.

[Yuuka Kazami]

I believe gif has the "all players of the faction" rule informally as well. (As in, all three Mafia have to agree for that sort of play).

Have you ever seen a scum player kill their partner N1? Or have any information there?
@Everyone, same question.
it's not a meta hunt thing,
I just want to do this...sort of empirically.

[Yuuka Kazami]

Okay, since nobody has spoken up I'm going to assume that empirically the chances of a N1 scum kill are so vanishingly rare that it would be statistical malpractice to act on it. If I lose to it,

oh well! Guess somebody had to make history with an insane gamble at some point.

[Yuuka Kazami]

So, moving on from my paranoia spiral,

there's Kagerou, Dai, Reisen, Marisa, Kaguya.
2 scum.

Let's arrange it.

So for Dai the way they bailed bothers me, but I also know I'm projecting there because, as mentioned I've had that role before and I pretty much either don't use it, or communicate with everyone about using it beforehand to avoid surprises and miscommunication. But I think I'm probably uniquish in that approach.

For a more sober look their head space was that it was the Aya and koishi show.

But that didn't stop them really, they said it but they still did things while acknowledging wagons weren't really in their control.

The head space could have been used in lieu for something to do, rather it could have been artificial inflation for post count and activity and then they found motivation to do more than nothing about it. They didn't really seem to progress much in terms of reads. I still think their position is weird for some them. But rather than ust looking at words, we pretty much have somebody that knew they were vulnerable and whisked themselves out. They were in the lower pool of eliminations. I'm not sure if it was statistically the right move to just take themselves out of the equation now for a reduced chance of us hitting scum when it just points them in a more vulnerable position tomorrow. They pretty much have tomorrow to hawk whatever they're going to sell in terms of reasoning for the action.

[Yuuka Kazami]

I'm not sure if Reisen's question about whether Dai is going to return is suspicious or not.
At face value it just says they aren't partners and aren't informed. Why did you ask that question Reisen?

Their posts at the start of this day phase feel different in length. So maybe something internal is happening there, this is an invitation if there is something internal happening there to explain it.

[Yuuka Kazami]

Why is Larvae's factional ability a bicycle horn.
Is that information denial or did they just not have one?

[Yuuka Kazami]

Asking mod.

I guess tomorrow I'll pay more attention to people.

[Yuuka Kazami]

Page top.

[Yuuka Kazami]

Oh.

Clown piece randomly gets a neighborhood with someone each night.
I actually thought it was an active ability.

I would like to change my question to who was in a neighborhood with clown piece last night?

Aya was night 1 right?
Each neighborhood ends on the following day. So does that mean Aya's neighborhood with them closed at the end of day 2?

I'm surprised nobody has claimed it.

[Yuuka Kazami]

Hmm actually quick question, Marisa and Reisen can you claim the Disable Passives ability if that was you?

bringing this question back. Answer when you can Reisen.

[Yuuka Kazami]

I asked the mod some questions and got some answers:

1. There are no players that can snoop on a neighborhood without the neighborhood being informed as this is considered bastard. So no one popped into Aya's neighborhood and saw the cop claim.
2. The bike horn is a joke and it's just an obtuse (and amusing) redaction, likewise they would not share a template of the factional ability. Which means anything relevant there, isn't known to the town.
3. They wouldn't let me know if Dai was dead or not.

But lo and behold they have been saved from drowning in the lake.
That's very unique in terms of abilities. Usually you can't turn it off.

[Yuuka Kazami]

Kaguya, where's the solve.

[Yuuka Kazami]

I already said I'm not a PGO.

[Yuuka Kazami]

You popped out of the lake made that whole Kaguya thing and then you're basically voting with Kaguya.

[Yuuka Kazami]

although this game kinda is a headache

i'm struggling to see how Kaguya makes this kill when she would be very much aware it strongly points to her

Doesn't it strongly point to me?
The neighborhood shenanigans made them suddenly uniquely vulnerable and then they took steps to rectify that with a game solve.

[Yuuka Kazami]

although this game kinda is a headache

i'm struggling to see how Kaguya makes this kill when she would be very much aware it strongly points to her

Doesn't it strongly point to me?
The neighborhood shenanigans made them(kaguya) suddenly vulnerable and then they took steps to rectify that with a game solve.

Kaguya, why did clown piece tell you they were a cop?

[Yuuka Kazami]

The PGO thing is weird when I had decent reason just to shoot clown.
I wouldn't because I'm a numbers dude and I'd have shot Aya.
But you know.

[Yuuka Kazami]

You popped out of the lake made that whole Kaguya thing and then you're basically voting with Kaguya.

Oh wow, if I had actually read your post instead of getting mad I'd have noticed that you prefaced your post with, gee it sure is inconvenient that my scum read is scum reading my scum read.

...But why can't they just be bussing? No, this isn't a mocking thing.

It's not a surprise that everyone's arrows were pointing at me, so it's not like this is a revelation. Mostly, I would expect more hesitation because it was the obvious answer and scum would presumably know it was the obvious answer.

I mean outside of Aya/Koishi
who would you think scum would shoot? They're the third best option.

[Yuuka Kazami]

I think the play is

VOTE: reisen

How poisoned is my slot rn btw?

Sound out, but don't think this could be reasonably AI.

[Yuuka Kazami]

Dai and Kaguya, have you two been in a neighborhood since the game started?

[Yuuka Kazami]

I think the play is

VOTE: reisen

i'm interested but also tell me more

it's weird how there's basically no options that are really that appealing in the PoE, finding scumreads is hard

please voice your suspicions about why each player might be scum or why each player might be town.

[Yuuka Kazami]

I am sad at Kaguya's game solve.
I swear, every time I get excited about someone with a game solve they end up having me in it.

[Yuuka Kazami]

...Magic?
Maybe I thought they used a spell card. Though I only recently learned they were one shots unless specifically stated otherwise because reading is tech.

[Yuuka Kazami]

Kaguya, why did clown piece tell you they were a cop?

They asked for my fullclaim, I gave them my fullclaim

They asked for my take on the game and I did some solving

Then they decided to trust me and claim cause they thought I was town

Why did you give them your full claim?

[Yuuka Kazami]

Maybe scum have an ability that counters commutes.
Based on reading everyone's abilities there are these baked in counters in the design.

For example Sanae could close neighborhoods, but if Larvae ever joined one their passive would block it.
Same with people with speed to counteract or go over Tenshi's mass interrupt.

[Yuuka Kazami]

Marisa did something?

[Yuuka Kazami]

Aya being told makes sense.
Yours does not.

[Yuuka Kazami]

1. I already said I tried to visit clown N1, but my ability did not work.

[Yuuka Kazami]

Tenshi did not use their ability.

My ability failed because clown commuted. No spell card refunds.
Which leaves Sanae being blocked by scum since no one else claimed it.

As you've mentioned, it seems it did not benefit them to have the game be on odds.

[Yuuka Kazami]

If I were scum and Marisa was town and clown piece said that they were town reading Marisa because they received a Dango, I would be *so* salty because that's a terrible reason to town read someone for something unverifiable.

Though there is a slight risk that someone followed Larvae and so they could've lied about it, but a buddy sending it to them as a scheme thing,

well no. It kind of relies on their buddy flipping so that doesn't make sense to ever use the fruit that way really.
Given the positioning involved.

[Yuuka Kazami]

1. Yes, another wording for your question is "how scummy do I look right now and are you going to want to kill me for this?" I don't understand why you should be 'immediately' killed.
2. How would Aya release the PT, do you mean recount the PT? If you mean recount the PT like you just did with clown piece, why would no limming be more desirable than voting you today? What would be in the PT that would be clearing or point to you more likely being town?
3. You know it's kind of funny seeing how concise you are and then you say what is the equivalent of filling the air with an obvious statement. Water *is* wet.

[Yuuka Kazami]

The fuck kind of ability is that

[Yuuka Kazami]

I'm not sure how them posting the PT would be clearing.
If it was the personal PT I could see how it could be, but the neighborhood ones, not so much.

[Yuuka Kazami]

There's also enough in the sequence of how you recounted what happened in the PT that I think the broad strokes are true.
No one is going to counter claim that you were in a PT together.
While it was very ill advised, I don't think it's particularly out of character for Clownpiece to reciprocate.
It would not be clearing or even particularly helpful to have that PT released.
IF they can release both PT's though?
I can't see a better use for it.

[Yuuka Kazami]

How big is the Daiyousei + You hood?

[Yuuka Kazami]

Recount that one too please.

[Yuuka Kazami]

I'll let Dai recount that one with any redactions she wants

Why would they redact anything when you have access to it too?

[Yuuka Kazami]

Cause if she doesn't then maf get access to the information too?

You're talking about Daiyosei here right? Not aya?

[Yuuka Kazami]

Why would you trust Daiyousei to do this?

[Yuuka Kazami]

There's a difference between thinking someone is town and knowing someone is town.

[Yuuka Kazami]

I don't understand your faith in your reads.
weren't you almost suspending your effort in reads because you felt like the game was closing out?
How does that line up with the level of confidence you're showing here?

[Yuuka Kazami]

Why do you even want Daiyousei to do it, if you lack suspicion there?

[Yuuka Kazami]

I can see if the redactions make sense, I already townread her before, and I think coming back from the dead the way she did is pretty townie

They popped out of the water and then threw shade at presumably town you. Before you presented your solve no less.
Was it townie to do that before they knew what your positioning would be? Or if you would make any mistakes?

[Yuuka Kazami]

No, i got the implication. She also omitted information about her abilities to you.

[Yuuka Kazami]

Why not just recount the thread and omit the information that you think is sensitive?

[Yuuka Kazami]

Was it townie to do that before they knew what your positioning would be? Or if you would make any mistakes?

She popped out of the water cause I wasn't claiming the Clownpiece hood after maf shot Clownpiece when they were publicly commuting and she was told by me to target Clownpiece. If she was maf here she would have had to predict that I would hold back the hood for a bit in order for the Clownpiece shot to be better than an Aya/Koishi shot

You were claiming you were about to solve the game and we waited around for about 1 day for reisen's response so that you could respond.
This was clear in thread.

[Yuuka Kazami]

Why not just recount the thread and omit the information that you think is sensitive?

Is this helping you sort me or is this just busywork?

Philosophy difference maybe. I'm more community-minded than you seem to be.

[Yuuka Kazami]

What would happen?

[Yuuka Kazami]

I don't see why they would not wait for your solve so that they would have even more information against you.
You could have omitted the information or maybe in the solve you would have admitted to it.

[Yuuka Kazami]

What were you planning to say in your solve if Dai didn't come out of the water?

[Yuuka Kazami]

@Dai, were you reading the thread? and if you did is there a reason you got out of the pool before Kaguya shared their solve?

[Yuuka Kazami]

The narrative shape is one where Dai lost patience and acted before the time was right. Using their ability as a pseudo-reaction test. Which produced in your eyes, nothing. But this did not frustrate you. As you understood where they were coming from and think how they approached it was townie.

[Yuuka Kazami]

Actually in your eyes, it seems to have put you in a worse position, but you do not bear a grudge.
You can get frustrated given the busy work comment. Subdued.

Your temperament is either rare on this website or you're subduing your emotional response to events.
There's uncertainty in how you're asking Koishi where you stand which shows a level of vulnerability, sure.

But no omgus.

[Yuuka Kazami]

Lost the plot.
If dai was told to target clown then presumably they would not be commuting and are therefore target-able.

[Yuuka Kazami]

Finally back home but exhausted, brain meat usage not now.

After a quick glance over the hood, I wouldn't object to just straight-up quoting the entire thing verbatim, honestly.

Including all the shit-talking! Ooh spicy spicy~

@Dai, were you reading the thread? and if you did is there a reason you got out of the pool before Kaguya shared their solve?

Continues have time limits! Have you never been to an arcade before?

Sure, just don't actually verbatim quote it because I'm pretty sure you'd get mod killed for that. Paraphrasing. Shit talking is also fine. Albeit, I'm not sure what a shit talking conversation with Kaguya would look like. Given how they present themselves.

[Yuuka Kazami]

Lost the plot.
If dai was told to target clown then presumably they would not be commuting and are therefore target-able.

No I understand that, my point is that it'd be a 1f1 when she could just like, not do that and go kill Aya/Koishi instead

Why would that be a one for one. Because since you're the only person that told them and since you're town you would immediately know how it leaked? What was your response to clown dying and Daiyousei disappearing, only to immediately come into the game and 1v1 you with accusation after accusation?

[Yuuka Kazami]

Finally back home but exhausted, brain meat usage not now.

After a quick glance over the hood, I wouldn't object to just straight-up quoting the entire thing verbatim, honestly.

Including all the shit-talking! Ooh spicy spicy~

@Dai, were you reading the thread? and if you did is there a reason you got out of the pool before Kaguya shared their solve?

Continues have time limits! Have you never been to an arcade before?

What do you mean by this?

[Yuuka Kazami]

But externally, you didn't say these things and you didn't announce in thread that Daiyousei was probably scum.

[Yuuka Kazami]

So was your solve Yuuka + Daiyousei before they popped out of the water?

[Yuuka Kazami]

So was your solve Yuuka + Daiyousei before they popped out of the water?

My solve was Yuuka + Kagerou

You thought they had died when they used their ability and the mod was being cute?

[Yuuka Kazami]

Oh, good you're dead.
So we'll know what you are soon and there's no reason to vote you?

[Yuuka Kazami]

So basically you're saying that the reason you did not wait a little longer for them to finally get out their solve is because your time limit was almost up. but you would have if you could have.

[Yuuka Kazami]

However, I was given the option to revive ("continue") at a price, if I wished.

This option had a time limit; if enough time passed before I made the choice, I would have died and flipped.

I paid the required price and revived.

Read my posts, please.

...Why aren't you death tunneling Kaguya again?

[Yuuka Kazami]

Kaguya did a closed loop murder that wasn't as closed as they'd hoped.

[Yuuka Kazami]

Double murder even.

[Yuuka Kazami]

That's *so neat*
You poor fucking thing though.
I love it.

Uh, could be wrong though.

[Yuuka Kazami]

Yes, that's why you're a poor thing.