Mini 1088: Cookie Thief Mafia (Game Over)

[don_johnson]

you said you are "stopping a lynch". if it works, do we still get a lynch, or do we just go to night phase? if we just go to night phase then you just handed a 3 player scum team the game. which is moot if ell is town, but there's a good chance he's not. however, if we still get to lynch, then i don't see why i can't then move my vote. but whatever. we do need the mod at this point.

[FakeGod]

Vote Count 3.2

Elleran (4): Llamarble, Furcolow, RobCapone, don_johnson

With 7 players, it takes 4 votes to lynch someone.

Lynch has occurred!

Lynch scene coming up.

[FakeGod]

Scouts talk for awhile, then decided that Elleran must be the cookie thief.

The scouts walked up to the Scout Leader Delicious Delly, and informed her of their decision.

"I'm sorry, Elleran, but majority rules. It's the rule #1 of the Cookie Scouts."

The cookie basket was lowered from the Basket Tree, and Elleran's cookie was quickly disposed of by the Scout Leader.

Going through his things in the cabin revealed him to be

Extraordinary Eli

, a

Cookie Scout

.

Elleran

, who was

Extraordinary Eli

, a

Cookie Scout

, lost his cookie and was forced to leave the camp day 3.

Delicious Delly realized that there was no way to get rid of the Cookie Thieves any more. They had the majority.


Few days later..... Llamarble, RobCapone, and don_johnson, only ones left in the camp, celebrated their victory with the Eating-Of-The-Cookie.

Darox

, who was

Brave Bob

, a

Cookie Scout

, lost his cookie and was forced to leave the camp in endgame.

Furcolow

, who was

Romantic Rebecca

, a

Cookie Scout

,and a

Girl's Club

member lost his cookie and was forced to leave the camp in endgame.

andrew94

, who was

Odd Olivia

, a

Cookie Scout

, lost his cookie and was forced to leave the camp endgame.

Llarmarble

, who was

Sneaky Steve

, a

Cookie Thief

, survives to endgame.

don_johnson

, who was

Quick Quinn

, a

Cookie Thief

, survives to endgame.

RobCapone

, who was

Cute Clover

, a

Cookie Thief

,and a

Girl's Club

member, survives to endgame.

The

Cookie Thieves

win the Mini Theme 1088!

[FakeGod]

Role PMs:

Cookie Thieves

:

don_johnson, you are

Quick Quinn

. You are one of the

Cookie Thieves

, along with Llamarble and RobCapone. Because your cabin has a secret backdoor, you can leave your cabin without anyone noticing. (realize that you’re not completely invisible: you could still be seen elsewhere other than leaving your cabin)

You will win when only ones remaining with the cookies are the Cookie Thieves, or nothing can stop it from happening.

You may talk with fellow

Cookie Thieves

here: link to mafia QT

Please confirm your role via PM.

Llamarble, you are

Sneaky Steve

. You are one of the

Cookie Thieves

, along with don_johnson and RobCapone. You have some experience snooping around, so during the night, you could sneak off to one of the cabins, break in, and find out their name. Obviously, if your target is awake in the room, you will not attempt to break in.

Also, you know that Cookie Thieves can send more than one person to the Basket Tree to eat someone's cookie.

You will win when only ones remaining with the cookies are the Cookie Thieves, or nothing can stop it from happening.

You may talk with fellow

Cookie Thieves

here: link to mafia QT

Please confirm your role via PM.

RobCapone, you are

Cute Clover

. You are one of the

Cookie Thieves

, along with don_johnson and Llamarble. You also belong to a local club:

Girl’s club

. PoisonIvy and Furcolow are also in the club. Members of Girl’s club do not know the alignments of the other Girl’s club members. When investigated, Girl’s club members will seem to be belonging to “

Girl’s club

”, instead of the

Cookie Scout

, or the

Cookie Thieves

. During the night, if Girl's club members reach a majority, Girl’s club also can send one of their members to spy on another person during the night to learn their name. Unfortunately, members of the Girl’s club are not very good at not being seen, so it will be obvious to the target that someone is watching him/her. (they will be forced to stay in their rooms)

You will win when only ones remaining with the cookies are the Cookie Thieves, or nothing can stop it from happening.

You may talk with fellow

Cookie Thieves

here: link to mafia QT

You may talk with fellow

Girl's club

members here: link to Girl's Club QT

Please confirm your role via PM.

Cookie Scouts

:

PoisonIvy, you are

Pretty Priscilla

. You are a

Cookie Scout

. You are also a member of the

Girl’s club

, along with RobCapone and Furcolow. Members of Girl’s club do not know the alignments of the other Girl’s club members. When investigated, Girl’s club members will seem to be belonging to “

Girl’s club

”, instead of the

Cookie Scout

, or the

Cookie Thieves

. During the night, with a majority, Girl’s club also can send one of their members to spy on another person during the night to learn their name. Unfortunately, members of the Girl’s club are not very good at not being seen, so it will be obvious to the target that someone is watching him/her. (they will forced to stay in their rooms)

You may talk to fellow

Girl's club

members here: link to Girl's Club QT

You will win when all threats to the ceremony of Eating-Of-The-Cookie is gone.

Please Confirm your role via a PM.

Furcolow, you are

Romantic Rebecca

. You are a

Cookie Scout

. You are also a member of the

Girl’s club

, along with RobCapone and PoisonIvy. Members of Girl’s club do not know the alignments of the other Girl’s club members. When investigated, Girl’s club members will seem to be belonging to “

Girl’s club

”, instead of the

Cookie Scout

, or the

Cookie Thieves

. During the night, with a majority, Girl’s club also can send one of their members to spy on another person during the night to learn their name. Unfortunately, members of the Girl’s club are not very good at not being seen, so it will be obvious to the target that someone is watching him/her. (they will forced to stay in their rooms)

You also have a crush on Zed. Therefore, you will lose your vote in sadness for a day if Zed's cookie is eaten. You do not know Zed’s alignment.

You may talk to fellow

Girl's club

members here: link to Girl's Club QT

You will win when all threats to the ceremony of Eating-Of-The-Cookie is gone.

Please confirm your role via a PM.

drmyshottyizsik, you are

Hungry Herold

. You are a

Cookie Scout

. Since you’re very very hungry, you’re willing to go and eat your cookie when you feel like. Just declare, “

I’M EATING MY COOKIE! OM NOM NOM

” anytime during the day and your cookie will be eaten by you. Unfortunately, this will send you back to the HQ right away.

You will win when all threats to the ceremony of Eating-Of-The-Cookie is gone.

Please confirm your role via PM.

Zed, you are

Tall Terry

. You are a

Cookie Scout

. The cookie basket was on a tall tree. You’re tall. This isn’t good. Because you will be easily accused due to your height, it will require 1 less vote than usual to make you lose your cookie.

You win when all threats to the Cookie Scouts are eliminated.

Please Confirm your role PM via PM.

lewarcher82, you are

Angry Angela

. You are a

Cookie Scout

. If someone dares to eat your cookie, you will grab a cookie from the tree and eat it, regardless of the consequences. (Note: you are a Vengeful Townie) This doesn’t apply if your cookie disappears during the night, only when you're lynched.

You win when all threats to Cookie Scouts are eliminated.

Send a PM confirming your role.

Darox, you are

Brave Bob

. You are a

Cookie Scout

. Because your cabin is the closest to the Basket tree, if you stay up all night, you may be able to see who the cookie thieves are! Unfortunately, that is not the case, and you will only be able to count how many people have visited the Basket tree during the night. You also can’t do this two nights in a row, as you will be very tired staying up entire night. (realize that you are counting instances of someone visiting the Basket tree, if someone visits the tree twice, it will count as two people)

You win when all threats to Cookie Scouts are eliminated.

Send me a PM confirming your role.

Elleran, you are

Extraordinary Eli

. You are a

Cookie Scout

. You brought your fingerprint scanning kit, so you can go to the Basket tree and investigate one person for their alignment. Unfortunately, the kit only has one use left, so you better make it count. Also, you can look up someone’s name on your handy-dandy laptop that will run out of battery after doing so. You can also use your large traveling cloak to sneak around and check if someone left their cabin during the night, but the cloak will be ruined, and you won’t be able to use it after once. (Note: you are basically a Jack of All Trades)

You win when all threats to Cookie Scouts are eliminated.

Confirm via PM.

Kublai Khan, you are

Daring Drew

. You are a

Cookie Scout

. You are very worried about your cookie might getting stolen, so you decided to take the chance and hide in the woods with it during the night. Therefore, during the night, you can go to the basket Tree, grab your cookie, hide in the woods all night, and return it right before the dawn. You obviously need sleep, so you can’t do this two nights in a row.

You win when all threats to ceremony of Eating-Of-The-Cookie are eliminated.

Confirm your role via PM

[FakeGod]

andrew94, you are

Odd Olivia

. You are a

Cookie Scout

. You knew something like this might happen, so you brought a blank cookie and replaced your cookie when no one was looking. If someone were to investigate your cookie, they would receive that you have “No alignment”. Also, if your cookie ever gets destroyed, you will have to publicly show that your cookie is still good by revealing it and putting in the basket. You only have one extra life, so make it count. Your alignment will not be revealed upon your first loss of your cookie (it will be normal colored font, instead of red or blue.), but your role will be revealed.

You win when all threats to Eating-Of-The-Cookie are eliminated.

Confirm via PM.

Setup Guide: (approximation)

Mafia Ninja + Mafia NameCop + Mafia Neighbor

vs.

Town Collective-Roleblock Neighbors
Town JOAT (one-shot cop, one-shot name cop, one-shot Night Watch)
Town Commuter
Town Night Action counter
Town Vengeful Townie
Town Hated Townie
Town Extra Life Townie
Town Suicidal Townie

Night Actions

Night 1

Quick Quinn (don_johnson) goes to the tree and eats Kublai Khan’s cookie.
Sneaky Steve (Llamarble) attempts to break into lewarcher82’s cabin, and since lewarcher82 is asleep in his room, Sneaky Steve has no problem breaking in and learning that lewarcher82’s name is Angry Angela.

Cute Clover (RobCapone) votes that RobCapone should investigate drmyshottyizsik.
Romantic Rebecca (Furcolow) votes that RobCapone should investigate drmyshottyizsik.
RobCapone spies on drmyshottyizsik, and learns that his name is Hungry Herold.
drmyshottyizsik learns that someone spied on him last night.

Daring Drew (Kublai Khan) does nothing.
Extraordinary Eli (Elleran) investigates Darox for alignment, and gets “Cookie Scout” for his result.
Brave Bob (Darox) uses his ability, and sees two people (don_johnson and Elleran) who visited the tree last night.

 

Night 2

Quick Quinn (don_johnson) goes to the tree and eats Lewarcher82’s cookie.
Sneaky Steve (Llamarble) attempts to break into Furcolow’s cabin, and since Furcolow is asleep in his room, Sneaky Steve has no problem breaking in and learning that Furcolow’s name is Romantic Rebecca.

Cute Clover (RobCapone) votes that Furcolow should investigate lewarcher82.
Romantic Rebecca (Furcolow) votes that Furcolow should investigate RobCapone.
Girl’s Club do not spy on anyone on Night 2.

Extraordinary Eli (Elleran) investigates Lewarcher82 for name, and gets “Angry Angela” for his result.
Brave Bob (Darox) stays asleep.

Scum QT can be posted by the Mafia Team if they wish.

Same thing goes for GC and dead QT.

[chesskid3]

..and this is why Furcolow should be PLed d1.

[RobCapone]

:bows:

[FakeGod]

From the role PM, players should quickly realize that the "Role Names" are officially given, but not the roles.
Also, name and the adjective always started out with the same letter, and no roles shared a letter.

Additionally, Mafia were not given any safe claims or a sample PM. In order to balance this, I sent out multiple versions of WinCon and switched few things here and there throughout the Town PMs.

Scum has two ways to find out names every night (Sneaky Steve + GC), and in my playtesting, they usually had the entire town roster by the beginning of night 3. (faster in this game because people claimed early on)

Role Names were loosely related to what each of the roles did.

Balancing Act

Hated Townie couldn't be voted by one of the players.
Voteloss mechanic didn't work if Hated Townie was lynched.

Those two factors moderated the roles bit more into normalcy.

Vengeful Townie + Extra Life Townie + Suicidal Townie also created some interesting balancing acts, because they had the ability to push Town into and out of MyLo situations.

Brave Bob is powerful toward the endgame, especially if Extraordinary Eli and/or Daring Drew are still alive. (because some of Eli's abilities don't involve going to the Basket Tree, it's almost impossible for scum to fakeclaim a role that fits into both Bob's and Eli's detection, and Daring Drew counts twice every time he uses his ability)

Neighbors weren't controlled by scum, but scum at least knew who GC was going to roleblock every night, and is able to make accommodations for it. (have GC spy on Quick Quinn, who just sneaks out the back door, etc.)

[Furcolow]

well played llamarble
youre the only one that convinced me, but that's all it took

[RobCapone]

Girl's Club QT - http://www.quicktopic.com/45/H/Vc9q4L3ChK5C

Theives QT - http://www.quicktopic.com/45/H/PPamTp6HCuZ

[Furcolow]

..and this is why Furcolow should be PLed d1.

policy lynched...
when i was preaching robs death from after the PI flip, voted him about 8 times... yeah, ok bro

[RobCapone]

Notice I basically told the truth about furc in the QT

The no action was his fault, although depending who he said I'd probably stalemated it anyway

[Furcolow]

ok so reading through again I think the scum team is Furc, elleran, and Don

Vote: Elleran

i wish i had been awake to see this
you are really bad
this would have changed my mind completely about llamarble

[Furcolow]

not posting here anymore, take it to PMs if you want to argue

[lewarcher82]

I'm writing this post from a train and I am not able to read all that was written in the last hours. The last thing I saw was Rob and Darox bothered by my position about Zed.

I will now describe the situation the way I see it.

There was scum on the shottywagon.

Either Llama is scum, or Elleran is. Elleran being scum doent imply Darox is scum, too.

I find the timing of Llama's case on Elleran susp, bc he jumped on him after right after shottys lynch, and kept attacking him without even stopping to think when he claimed.

However, Elleran did a bad work defending, and the wrong flavour stuff looks bad - possbly looks worse than it is.

We are stuck here. If you want to lync Elleran go ahead, and let us hope we have a ML. I don't trust Llama enough to do that.

As for Zed: she posted very few (23 posts), she never made a case and when she attacked someone, she tended not to vote. She behave incoherently about andrew's claim (check her ISO) and she is an active lurker. I find her scummy and antitown, and I don't like the way she comes up with my very same idea about andrew, smuggling it as if it was her original content: lurker who pretends to be active.

The other player I don't trust is DJ: as town he is far more active than he now is, I will change my mind if he posts useful content, but I feel he is being an active lurker, too.

@rob: if there is scum in the GC, it is probably you.

That's it. I am waiting for comments on this post, and I will vote for one of my fos tonight when I am back home, about 9 pm german time.

After which, zed flips town, and on the very following day I die.

However, I was a weak player, because after my day1 fail, I was unable to convince anyone to vote my FoS. My bad. I played poorly and I apologise.

gg to the scum team, they deserved the win!

[RobCapone]

..and this is why Furcolow should be PLed d1.

policy lynched...
when i was preaching robs death from after the PI flip, voted him about 8 times... yeah, ok bro

You lost credibility the mention ivy flipped town

P. Edit

Never vote in lylo and leave

[lewarcher82]

ok so reading through again I think the scum team is Furc, elleran, and Don

Vote: Elleran

i wish i had been awake to see this
you are really bad
this would have changed my mind completely about llamarble

so... you basically threw a vote on a claimed pr on lylo and left...

last post by lew, who is inaugurating the "black list" section on his wiki.

[RobCapone]

Great job Don and llama

Don you had me worried you werent going to hammer

Nice playing with everyone but furc

[Llamarble]

Muahahaha!
I was hoping I would wake up to a finished game after I saw Furc's vote.
I actually thought Andrew was most likely to vote for Elleran and was pretty sure Darox wouldn't.
I think this game was a lot closer than it seemed, since if Rob had been lynched instead of PI D1 the girls club would have a powerful force for good and potential NKstopper instead of a way for us to RB people and hunt town PRs.
Several players seemed to have good reads at various points, but there weren't a lot of logically strong, forcefully pushed cases against us.
Hungry Harold getting GCed and then suiciding helped us a lot, but I'm not sure how that could have been avoided.

I'm curious whether Andrew actually was unlynchable, the way he described putting his cookie back made him sound only NK immune, so I thought if mylo happened we might get a winning ML on him.

Lew, were you actually a 1 shot vig? I found out your name N1 and NKed you N2 because you might be able to prove Andrew's innocence and make too many clears (and because we didn't want a vig around).

[RobCapone]

Llama he was vengeful townie, if lynched he could eat another persons cookie

I like this setup mod great job

[Llamarble]

Fascinating, and it looks like we got lucky that Kublai wasn't hiding in the woods N1.

[lewarcher82]

I said last post, but one has to answer a honorable enemy

nope, if I were a vig, you would be dead last night. I see from the mafia QT that you thought I would have shot andrew, but I wouldn't have. DJ and you were obviously scum to me after the end of the day, basically because I know DJ when he is town, and he ended up ignoring the case on you in a too evident way.

as you can see from the dead QT: http://www.quicktopic.com/45/H/QE9B95THzyR I had no more doubta about you two. I should have been more convincing during my last day alive, but I simply failed. My bad.

Unfortuantely, I was only a vengeful townie, a power that becomes mathematically useless once we hit mylo. *sigh*

[Llamarble]

The dead QT was fun to read. Looks like killing Lewarcher was pretty key.
Thanks FakeGod for a cool setup and a fun game!
I particularly like Brave Bob's role; it's mostly irrelevant early but then can shed a lot of light when people start claiming stuff.
And the way Zed/Furc's roles worked together was neat.

[don_johnson]

my initial read through i didn't pick up furc's vote. it was only when rob pointed out that ell was at L-1 that i realized it was possibly game. i was a bit worried that furc was gambitting, though, and that he didn't really have a vote, but o well. gg scummies!

lew: they convinced me you were a good nk and both rob and llama had put so much effort it in that i wasn't going to argue it. i probably would've went after ell. i thought it was pretty funny how you nailed the entire scum team, though.

[Kublai Khan]

Fascinating, and it looks like we got lucky that Kublai wasn't hiding in the woods N1.

But I think we should NK Kublai.
I saw no particular "I'm not a PR" tells from him and he seems pretty reasonable.
"Too narrow thinking. There's all sorts of informative-type roles and corresponding ways to mislead them."
Also sounds like a player who might have thought a bit extra about PRs because he is one.

Yeah, I was getting super townie vibes from lewarcher and I figured that scum were as well. Since I couldn't disappear two night sin a row, I figured i'd save it for the next night. In retrospect that was a bad strategy (not just because I died).

FakeGod also let me know that taking my own cookie might look suspicious. I figured that someone had a role of watching the cookie basket (when Elleran admitted to this I knew he was town and those attacking him were scum in the Dead thread). When GCs mentions investigation immunity and other stuff was coming out, I figured that FakeGod setup a multiple partial-cop and partial-miller role combinations. Which is why I made the misleading comment.

Good job to scum. You guys took advantage of the VIs very well and played a good solid strategy of rope-a-doping town.

I was queasy about lynching PoisonIvy. Which I'm now especially confused since her PM lists all three colors. She really shouldn't have resigned herself to being hung like that. Furcolow's shitty, shitty play made RobCapone look town. Honestly, Furcolow is one of the worst mafia players I've ever seen.

@lew: You really should have acted more scummy with a vengeful townie role like that. Damn. I wouldn't have tried to lynch you in a million years.

I wonder why Stigmata left the game as scum?

Also: RobCapone = HopOnMyJoystick? Awesome.