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I'm very excited to be here, the mod was generous enough in accepting my play (some from another site that no longer fully exists outside of archive.org) and some other data to let me join everyone.
I lead a very busy life, so I fully admit that I'm a touch concerned with keeping up given the few games I skimmed before signing up seemed to be very large in page count. But, I'm confident I'll have fun and do my best anyways.
I did want to go ahead and guide discussion towards the uniqueness of a bunch of known one-shot roles, and how that might warp the midgame? Specifically, I think this makes day four or so the more appropriate venue for a massclaim, but that does operate around the assumption that most everyone is going to be firing off their roles early. Additionally, since all investigative are by definition one-shots, is there any reason NOT to have a start-of-day mass hypo-claim? I'm not sure how one would handle lighter investigative roles, and protective ones. I'm also curious as to how everyone thinks we should approach refunded shots? As in, if your shot is refunded, do you claim that without claiming what the item refunded was? Should we just stay silent? Should we full claim everything that was blocked and refunded? My thoughts are less settled there.
Oh and uh, VOTE: Lemon.Tangerine for being one more citrus than I can handle.
I'll get back to you on this.
As of now, I have one role that absolutely should not fire night 1 and one that I probably will. However, I'm not a fan of mass hypo claiming. Let's passively get to know each other and coordinate that way.
In post 17, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:
i am striking against the capitalist overlords by refusing to produce content without compensation
Can a hug count as compensation? Your avatar looks so hugable.
titus is a capitalist overlord she is trying to compensate me
gottem
Aww no you misunderstand. We stand as one and get our compensation from the overlords. Some members just need more help than others. Gotta stop them overlords from picking on people.
In post 25, Titus wrote:
Aww no you misunderstand. We stand as one and get our compensation from the overlords. Some members just need more help than others. Gotta stop them overlords from picking on people.
I am willing to reruit you into my
cult
amazing union to fight for workers right and just compensation from the evil capitalist overlords
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Post #58 (isolation #6) » Thu Feb 01, 2024 1:25 pm
Postby Titus »
In post 46, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:
as a totally not corrupt union leader I promise I will not take dues from my members to fund my cocaine habit until the struggle to free mafiascum from the evil capitalist roaders has succeeded
As long as your cocaine habit fuels wholesomeness, we're good to go.
its ok I dont mind her kicking my ass again she at least does it with style
tbf ur ass is very kickable =]
Are you the evil to my wholesome this game?
idk what ur talking about, u want to support the dirty evil unions.
I am here to free people from those shackles of oppression.
Union Busters are the unsung heroes of old.
I'll just mark you as a double agent. You're too bad to be bad. We'll get you in a fedora eventually. Muahahaha!
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Post #237 (isolation #16) » Thu Feb 01, 2024 4:40 pm
Postby Titus »
LTO, you're reminding me of me way back when. The point of roleplay here is to read multiple players based on gut feels and prior interactions. When I started, I didn't get it much either. The posts aren't meant for logic but for vibes.
Joyboy and Broccoli aren't reading well to me. Relative isn't far behind.
But doesn't this not work given a player is aware of their own past more so than anyone else? I can begrudgingly accept the vibes approach, even if to me it feels like a complete waste of mental energy. Is it expected to go read the prior games of players before playing with them?
No. I detest meta myself. It's more of my way of reaching out to players with different styles than me and learning. Right now my reads are based off tone, which is my weakest part.
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Post #256 (isolation #18) » Thu Feb 01, 2024 5:03 pm
Postby Titus »
Some parts of a player's personality are near immutable. For instance, I am a mama hen to those I see as on my side usually and try to work with them but not at the expense of my truth. A rare exception is bussing and that usually comes with a warning.
I can logic my way out of almost anything given enough data.
In post 261, Dunnstral wrote:
Hey Joyboy, you voted for LadyTerminallyOffline, and when asked about it by several people you transitioned to this weird all caps roleplay and ignored them.
Ah, this is unfortunate. I saw it too but was hoping it would go unnoticed so that I could get more information out of the situation.
Not that anyone wants to engage on it besides us apparently.
In post 261, Dunnstral wrote:
Hey Joyboy, you voted for LadyTerminallyOffline, and when asked about it by several people you transitioned to this weird all caps roleplay and ignored them.
Ah, this is unfortunate. I saw it too but was hoping it would go unnoticed so that I could get more information out of the situation.
Not that anyone wants to engage on it besides us apparently.
I have been comrades with Joyboy in a previous revolution. He sadly did the exact same thing. Given historical determinism, we can expect ALL CAPS forever and discussions of meat soon
In post 291, Laplacian wrote:
(And for the no-fun crew who don't like roleplaying, I'll get bored with this communist-manifesto-shitposting bit in a couple days and then start actually trying)
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Post #442 (isolation #23) » Fri Feb 02, 2024 8:52 am
Postby Titus »
In post 379, Joyboy wrote:
I DO NOT VIEW TITUS' WAGONING ME EVER AS A DAY 1 WOLF STRATEGY. IF SHE CLAIMED THE ONE PIECE, SHE WOULD NEVER DO SUCH A THING!
SHE WILL BE A FINE ADDITION TO MY PIRATE CREW
HAHAHAHAHAHA
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Post #443 (isolation #24) » Fri Feb 02, 2024 8:56 am
Postby Titus »
In post 391, LadyTerminallyOffline wrote:
Being any of you three playing together a lot sounds exhausting. Is it always like this?
Can we talk about other things?
Does FireBringer have a real set of reads yet?
Stop taking Fire and crew seriously. I relate to you and trying to read people based off emotion instead of logic.
I try to leave both to be readable, but due to my brain being wired differently and my skill as scum, I'm rarely universally TRed day 1. Worries me that I am.
except i'd only be humiliated if I was town and he hasnt even claimed he's townreading me so he doesnt have any basis to say i'd be humiliated.
like his mental image of me in his head is supposed to be ???? Pooky ????
if anything, town!bell might think I'm mafia for incorrectly scumreading him since if I'm town I should be able to read him correctly.
but instead he's saying I'm town and i'll be humiliated because he's also town and I'm reading him incorrectly. but there's no way he'd have the mental image in his head of me being town and being humiliated for the wrong read since he shouldn't be thinking of me as town without actually townreading me - which he hasn't done yet.
Not defending but has Bell ever just automatically assumed everyone is town as town? That's my final decision marker.
In post 438, Bell wrote:
how I claim these things does and you’re not commenting on it.
why would I comment on it
Because you, as resident Bell tea leaf reader should know. I’m such an easy sort after all. That you should this is pretty out of character for me not to test the waters on stuff first before giving up information or making myself vulnerable.
Why shouldn't we kill you if you can talk after death? In the worst case, we'd get confirmation Pooky is wrong AND have a voice to listen to?
In post 310, lemon.tangerine wrote:
Anyway inregards to our setup (i read someone posted it about being alot of 1-shot abilities which ofc it is lol) Id say that alot of ppl probably have much more creative abilities than on other forums.
Just a rumour i heard that setups are often more creative on mafiascum, sooo im expecting ppl to be doing more than complain abt union leaders lol
Aka throw nukes everywhere ty <3
Also n1 actions are gonna be p chaotic i assume bc 14 ppl all using joat actions lol (yes 15-1 is 14 after wagon)
So like what happens if everyone just kills another player?
Our noble group is 17 players, not 15. Likewise, we are blessed with a suite of one shots, made abundantly clear in the pre-game literature. Yet, this post is casual, nay, skeptical, about the existence of our one shots. Observe the hedging: "I read someone posted it", "a rumor", "probably have much more creative abilities". Our JOAT abilities were clear from the moment we signed up for the union!
COMRADES! I ask of you, why would a hard-working member of the proletariat ignore their unique skills and abilities? They would not. JOAT abilities are our way of interacting with the world, our way of finding information, our way of aiding and protecting allies, our way of furthering the perpetual march of progress! To ignore our skills is anathema to everything we stand for!
Therefore, there can be only one conclusion. Lemon.tangerine is a perfidious union-buster, as sour as his name. He has ignored his innate skills to focus on another ability, one shared with all scum. Murder.
VOTE: lemon.tangerine
Actually doesn’t this suggest otherwise? Omitting 2 players assumes 3-men team and if my brain still works correctly 17p usually has 4-men team, no?
I would indeed expect a 13-4 split; the foul bourgeoise would have sent no less than that to try, futile though it may be, to shatter our noble spirits. No, Lemon's omission of two comrades is a minor error that I would expect from distraction; instead the smoking gun of their perfidy comes from the skepticism of abilities. Reread their first sentence and tell me that it is not hedging, that is not feigned nonchalance. While the braying of Bell's possible slip still rings in our ears, lemon's words offer a far more damning perspective.
Yup, you and joyboy teamed.
Now maybe Bell, maybe TMI. Still you two are likely scum.
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Post #505 (isolation #33) » Fri Feb 02, 2024 9:58 am
Postby Titus »
In post 456, Firebringer wrote:
i thought titus was supposed to be wholesome and here she is yelling at people to die in a fire.....
did the definition of wholesome change since the last time i checked
You're right. I should have said be surrounded by gentle flames while drinking from a "This is fine" mug until the flames gently and pleasurably suffocate the scum.
On my personal reads level, yeah. On a gameplay level, Bell. What's the downside in limming Bell?
If i had to think of a downside it'd probably being unsure abt bell since from what i remember his posts could come from either alignment. I also checked back and i don't really get the slip comment on them.
Meanwhile Joyboy is a much more attractive vote in my eyes, same as Hu Tao maybe
On my personal reads level, yeah. On a gameplay level, Bell. What's the downside in limming Bell?
If i had to think of a downside it'd probably being unsure abt bell since from what i remember his posts could come from either alignment. I also checked back and i don't really get the slip comment on them.
Meanwhile Joyboy is a much more attractive vote in my eyes, same as Hu Tao maybe
Did you miss Bell can talk after death?
Titus, why would killing a towns person be better than leaving them alive.
I'm not sure if you're town and you can talk after death so we don't really suffer downsides.
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Post #602 (isolation #43) » Fri Feb 02, 2024 11:15 am
Postby Titus »
In post 600, Bell wrote:
And why don’t you read me as town?
Why are you leading with “oh if he’s dead then I can still rely on him for commentary therefore he’s currently the best elimination”
Instead of a reason to scum read me?
I like Pooky's case. Not rocksolid and I asked you for evidence and got crickets.
On my personal reads level, yeah. On a gameplay level, Bell. What's the downside in limming Bell?
If i had to think of a downside it'd probably being unsure abt bell since from what i remember his posts could come from either alignment. I also checked back and i don't really get the slip comment on them.
Meanwhile Joyboy is a much more attractive vote in my eyes, same as Hu Tao maybe
Did you miss Bell can talk after death?
Titus, why would killing a towns person be better than leaving them alive.
I'm not sure if you're town and you can talk after death so we don't really suffer downsides.
Comrade, how could you say such a thing! If we assume that Bell is a noble comrade, the loss of his vote and loss of a potential 3rd, as-yet-unclaimed skill from Bell would be a loss of all of us in the union. While I myself am not wholly convinced of Bell's devotion to our socialist causes, this is a callous statement I would expect not from a forward-thinking comrade, but rather from the selfish bourgeoise and their jackbooted thugs.
Why would Bell have a third skill? Did scum get yhree skills?
In post 605, lemon.tangerine wrote:
hey titus, as of now could you maybe look somewhere else that isnt bell?
I have. Joyboy and broccoli are acceptable.
Note comrades, that after I call out Titus's words as being anti-union, she now casts aspersions on my vegeacious self! There is no supporting evidence in her words. Engels himself described this very action in his work
In post 600, Bell wrote:
And why don’t you read me as town?
Why are you leading with “oh if he’s dead then I can still rely on him for commentary therefore he’s currently the best elimination”
Instead of a reason to scum read me?
I like Pooky's case. Not rocksolid and I asked you for evidence and got crickets.
I’m not giving you evidence of me being gotcha’d and being town. You’ve been playing mafia for years and witnessed it yourself.
Ok, you don't have to TR me? No one's making you. Sure it could be wrong but lower burden of proof and all.
In post 615, Maid Cafe wrote:
Bell, do you always act this entitled? Genuinely curious.
People are giving me the impression you're so blatantly obvious to read
and you have this entitled air around you. I figured voting you would be funny now I'm just going "lol" about it.
Bell having a sense of being entitled to townread is hallmark of his town game.
Its really annoying when ur scum and he is town. Cause his sense of entitlement makes pushing him annoying.
I recall this as scum in a large many moons ago. I'll see if I can find it.
In post 698, Titus wrote:
Bell, can you do a readslist? Take a position on anyone?
why are you giving him hints lol
I wanted to see how long he could go on without scumhunting
It's not hints gosh darn it. It's getting associatives.
associatives from how people behave around a caught scum are much more useful than any associatives that originate from said caught scum
Maybe but why not get as much data as possible.
@Bell, I think my thoughts on theories are pretty laid out. Not case level yet but still there.
Flipping you would help me judge them.
Your associative and vote reading have never observably worked beyond randomness. So not only am I town and have little interest in seeing you win off my death(I'd still be around but), but I also know that statistically, this will get us no closer to winning if you're town because it doesn't really seem to work for you.
Sure. Reads day one can be little better than random on hitting scum, when I do them. Day 1 isn't my strength. Early game is about finding a core and something that feels good enough. I'll take the relationships and data, then pounce like I did in Among Us.