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Post #2 (isolation #0 ) » Tue Jan 05, 2021 1:38 pm
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by Ythan » Tue Jan 05, 2021 1:38 pm
This is nice it's so easy to overlook these things.
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Post #3 (isolation #1 ) » Tue Jan 05, 2021 1:44 pm
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by Ythan » Tue Jan 05, 2021 1:44 pm
I mean it took us nearly two decades to change lynch so I think that's pretty obvious.
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Post #11 (isolation #2 ) » Tue Jan 05, 2021 4:25 pm
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by Ythan » Tue Jan 05, 2021 4:25 pm
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Post #14 (isolation #3 ) » Tue Jan 05, 2021 5:56 pm
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by Ythan » Tue Jan 05, 2021 5:56 pm
Kamikaze is very self explanatory. I like it.
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Post #15 (isolation #4 ) » Tue Jan 05, 2021 5:57 pm
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by Ythan » Tue Jan 05, 2021 5:57 pm
Could also just be a modifier in this case for vig.
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Post #18 (isolation #5 ) » Tue Jan 05, 2021 6:17 pm
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by Ythan » Tue Jan 05, 2021 6:17 pm
In post 17 , Aristophanes wrote: In post 13 , Ircher wrote: What about Kamikaze Pilot for S Bomb? It's the same concept, but I think Kamikaze has better connotations.
I mean, I thought about that but I've heard it can be racially charged as well, thus not suggesting it myself. If I am offbase though, it's not a bad suggestion.
Yeah I thought about this too and I'm not sure myself. I think it might be fine though and hope to get some more eyes on it.
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Post #26 (isolation #6 ) » Wed Jan 06, 2021 4:43 am
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by Ythan » Wed Jan 06, 2021 4:43 am
Sacrificial's not bad.
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Post #35 (isolation #7 ) » Wed Jan 06, 2021 6:39 am
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by Ythan » Wed Jan 06, 2021 6:39 am
I don't think sacrificing your life for a goal is problematic in the same way as suicide.
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Post #40 (isolation #8 ) » Wed Jan 06, 2021 6:58 am
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by Ythan » Wed Jan 06, 2021 6:58 am
Doomed is nice for that.
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Post #45 (isolation #9 ) » Wed Jan 06, 2021 7:55 am
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by Ythan » Wed Jan 06, 2021 7:55 am
I like doomed for that but less for something like lovers which is triggered rather than on a countdown.
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Post #47 (isolation #10 ) » Wed Jan 06, 2021 8:05 am
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I think heartbreak is nice.
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Post #51 (isolation #11 ) » Wed Jan 06, 2021 11:40 am
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by Ythan » Wed Jan 06, 2021 11:40 am
I'd call it a sacrificial vig, meaning it dies when it uses the ability.
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Post #53 (isolation #12 ) » Wed Jan 06, 2021 11:43 am
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by Ythan » Wed Jan 06, 2021 11:43 am
Then call it that imo.
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Post #63 (isolation #13 ) » Tue Jan 12, 2021 4:49 pm
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by Ythan » Tue Jan 12, 2021 4:49 pm
To me an activated bomb is a bomb that only explodes if killed on a night the bomb ability is activated, presumably as opposed to another ability.
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Post #66 (isolation #14 ) » Wed Jan 13, 2021 6:14 am
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by Ythan » Wed Jan 13, 2021 6:14 am
Nosy Goblin
I really thought there were more creatures with straight "sac this to destroy target creature."
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Post #69 (isolation #15 ) » Thu Jan 14, 2021 3:13 pm
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by Ythan » Thu Jan 14, 2021 3:13 pm
Sacrificial vig still my favorite too for all those same reasons.
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Post #72 (isolation #16 ) » Sat Jan 23, 2021 10:31 pm
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by Ythan » Sat Jan 23, 2021 10:31 pm
Now you're thinking with modifiers
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Post #75 (isolation #17 ) » Sun Jan 24, 2021 7:15 am
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by Ythan » Sun Jan 24, 2021 7:15 am
I asked once about combined modifiers with targeted and self-targeting abilities and while I do agree that, as the normalcy guidelines point to the wiki, that's technically correct (at least for the different question I was asking regarding normalcy), I think we should consider changing the wording to require that only all freely targetable abilities should be made against one target while all self targeting abilities also trigger. The modifier should limit the function of the role, not which abilities can be combined by a mod.
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Post #83 (isolation #18 ) » Tue Apr 13, 2021 6:59 am
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by Ythan » Tue Apr 13, 2021 6:59 am
I still quite like sacrificial.
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Post #85 (isolation #19 ) » Tue Apr 13, 2021 7:04 am
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by Ythan » Tue Apr 13, 2021 7:04 am
Honestly I'd be in favor of this change even without the problems with the current term. Bomber really is just a variant of vig and defining it with a modifier, which might also be fun with other roles too, is just a good game design move I think.
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Post #88 (isolation #20 ) » Tue Apr 13, 2021 7:15 am
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by Ythan » Tue Apr 13, 2021 7:15 am
I haven't heard that preference before! But interesting.
Is it the normalcy guidelines that push us to have these discrete standardized role building blocks? I think at least with the normal guidelines being able to mix and match powers and modifiers is helpful. And we could never come up with a unique term for every combination.
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Post #90 (isolation #21 ) » Tue Apr 13, 2021 7:54 am
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by Ythan » Tue Apr 13, 2021 7:54 am
Normal guidelines as written allow infinite combinations of approved roles and modifiers.
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Post #92 (isolation #22 ) » Tue Apr 13, 2021 8:25 am
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by Ythan » Tue Apr 13, 2021 8:25 am
I believe some specific variations do have standardized names. The normal guidelines do require the use of standardized names though so they'd have to be established beforehand. Which is possible.
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Post #94 (isolation #23 ) » Tue Apr 13, 2021 8:26 am
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by Ythan » Tue Apr 13, 2021 8:26 am
Heheheh
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Post #95 (isolation #24 ) » Tue Apr 13, 2021 8:27 am
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I didn't know most of those though nice.
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Post #96 (isolation #25 ) » Tue Apr 13, 2021 8:29 am
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I also think it's good for mods to have a flexible way to create new unexpected role combinations within the normal guidelines.
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Post #98 (isolation #26 ) » Tue Apr 13, 2021 8:31 am
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Agreed yeah.
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Post #100 (isolation #27 ) » Tue Apr 13, 2021 8:37 am
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Whoa I get it now nice
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Post #113 (isolation #28 ) » Wed Apr 14, 2021 8:28 am
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So that's where you pulled it from
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Post #117 (isolation #29 ) » Wed Apr 14, 2021 9:36 am
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Fuck off troll
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Post #128 (isolation #31 ) » Thu Apr 15, 2021 5:54 am
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Nancy is right Tina is wrong.
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Post #130 (isolation #32 ) » Thu Apr 15, 2021 6:05 am
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by Ythan » Thu Apr 15, 2021 6:05 am
You have consistently bad takes on this subject as well.
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Consistently bad takes.
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Post #134 (isolation #34 ) » Thu Apr 15, 2021 6:16 am
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by Ythan » Thu Apr 15, 2021 6:16 am
I'm highlighting that you've been making bad posts about this exact subject in a nearly identical thread within the past 48 hours.
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Post #136 (isolation #35 ) » Thu Apr 15, 2021 6:25 am
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by Ythan » Thu Apr 15, 2021 6:25 am
Saying they posts you're making are bad is not personal. You may be a smart person but these posts you are making are clueless and miss the point.
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Post #138 (isolation #36 ) » Thu Apr 15, 2021 6:37 am
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by Ythan » Thu Apr 15, 2021 6:37 am
That's a really stupid question and you're not a stupid person so I'm not going to condescend to pretend you don't actually understand what you're doing here.
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Post #140 (isolation #37 ) » Thu Apr 15, 2021 6:39 am
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Apparently that's what this thread is for now though.
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Post #151 (isolation #38 ) » Thu Apr 15, 2021 7:07 am
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by Ythan » Thu Apr 15, 2021 7:07 am
In post 148 , samantha97 wrote: no actual muslim would look at that role and see it as relating to themselves
Wow that's so fucking dumb and wrong lol
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Post #152 (isolation #39 ) » Thu Apr 15, 2021 7:08 am
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You gonna post shit like that and then whine about anyone else making assumptions get the fuck outta here lol
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Post #154 (isolation #40 ) » Thu Apr 15, 2021 8:29 am
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In post 152 , Ythan wrote: You gonna post shit like that and then whine about anyone else making assumptions get the fuck outta here lol
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