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In post 52, Alianna wrote:
I'm not willing to townlean anyone on the basis of "has reads" but I guess I won't complain about it too much.
What's this in response to?
Forgot to quote, this was in response to 50. Kind of assumed the reasoning based on what everyone had posted. Was it something else?
what posts led you to make that assumption?
The fact that at the time, you and sheep were the only two players to have stated serious reads.
I don't think it was correct to make this assumption but I think it's actually kinda townie. Like Alianna was reasoning through why one would townlean me and Sheep.
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Post #76 (isolation #7) » Thu May 25, 2023 3:59 am
Postby Invisibility »
In post 72, Andante wrote:
If we have a serial killer, pretty sure it's implosion based on how he's playing, it reads to me as like "hey! tr me!!! look at my effort" and sk not knowing scum team? easy to do this
In post 72, Andante wrote:
If we have a serial killer, pretty sure it's implosion based on how he's playing, it reads to me as like "hey! tr me!!! look at my effort" and sk not knowing scum team? easy to do this
how do you distinguish this from town solving?
cause it's less than 100 posts in and implosion is trying like super hard, it just screams sk to me
how is expressing two light townreads with small reasons trying too hard? That's to be expected in the first hundred posts lol
In post 127, Andante wrote:
now back to skitter, invis dissapeared when I started getting real, yet invis has the TR "for being here"???
I disappear cuz I was in school fdlgjdkjghsdfklhgfd (last day ever btw!)
what's with the SHADE anyway? I already decided not to respond to 87 (which was the last post I saw before I went to school) cuz you essentially said that we should agree to disagree (I accept no such charter! But I could see that it wasn't likely to have gone anywhere)
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Post #146 (isolation #13) » Thu May 25, 2023 8:09 am
Postby Invisibility »
Andante's posts are kind of baffling here lol. I don't like her interaction with Skitter cuz she seems to be overreacting from the pressure and taking really weird angles of defense like shading me for a weird reason and like, seemingly saying Skitter's reads are bad cuz both me and Andante are playing the social deduction game Mafia also known as Werewolf created by Dimitry Davidoff in 1986 but she TRs me and SRs her. Also her response to Menalque voting Aliana is weird. A lot of the other posts I have no idea like her interaction with Sheep. I started this post intending to talk about being confused but the more I think about it the more I just find this slot scummy VOTE: Andante
This is sort of an interesting pop-in. Have you looked at the other pages since your previous post and don't have much to say on them, or have you not looked at them yet, or comical third option?
Ive read them but there wasn't much that I thought was worth commenting on
In post 127, Andante wrote:
now back to skitter, invis dissapeared when I started getting real, yet invis has the TR "for being here"???
I disappear cuz I was in school fdlgjdkjghsdfklhgfd (last day ever btw!)
what's with the SHADE anyway? I already decided not to respond to 87 (which was the last post I saw before I went to school) cuz you essentially said that we should agree to disagree (I accept no such charter! But I could see that it wasn't likely to have gone anywhere)
also like, alianna isn't even talking?? how did you catch alianna?
why did you change your tune here? 73 and 75 were posted 61 seconds apart.
In post 146, Invisibility wrote:
Andante's posts are kind of baffling here lol. I don't like her interaction with Skitter cuz she seems to be overreacting from the pressure and taking really weird angles of defense like shading me for a weird reason and like, seemingly saying Skitter's reads are bad cuz both me and Andante are playing the social deduction game Mafia also known as Werewolf created by Dimitry Davidoff in 1986 but she TRs me and SRs her. Also her response to Menalque voting Aliana is weird. A lot of the other posts I have no idea like her interaction with Sheep. I started this post intending to talk about being confused but the more I think about it the more I just find this slot scummy VOTE: Andante
I think this is a towny progression
Something andante said initially caught invisibility's eye and made her go back and read andante's iso, and 144 is a good observation
invisibility and I have never played mafia together, so it makes sense I'm where their focus is. however, it's feeling like they're just tunneling me to tunnel, it's kinda annoying
also like, alianna isn't even talking?? how did you catch alianna?
why did you change your tune here? 73 and 75 were posted 61 seconds apart.
nothing changed? I thought that was an e-1 vote, we're not throwing someone on e-1 for 0 reason, and especially not announcing e-1? mena was asking for that to be hammered...
also I forgot that you thought that lol. Still was 91 not questioning Mena's progression?
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Post #160 (isolation #20) » Thu May 25, 2023 8:29 am
Postby Invisibility »
In post 153, Andante wrote:
what is even scummy about what I've done? I've given reads and said why I think them to be true. then interacted with people I thought were saying things to just look town. skitter is definitely scummy here so idk what you're on about with defending skitter...
again with the defense that you're town because you're… playing Mafia. Are you ontologically town or something
this feels townie to me. I give Alianna an out that I find partially plausible, but Alianna doesn't go for it even though she knew I'd already somewhat believe it and most likely thought somewhat belief is the best belief she'd get. Seems indicative of real thought process (even if it's thought process that wasn't pursued LOL)
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Post #261 (isolation #34) » Fri May 26, 2023 4:17 am
Postby Invisibility »
In post 256, GuerillaWoo wrote:
Came in with some brazen stuff and immediately self-declared obv town. The assumption ig is that scum wouldn't engage in any bravado or start questioning TRs on themselves? But that assumption is worth more when it's not Andante just saying "So what I did just now makes me locktown". It comes off as awareness of reads on yourself, and like, feigning confidence in RVS is just super easy to do. She did this after saying Implo is tryharding early.
It's a solid place for a wagon.
I need to reread the thread and try to figure out if I have any town reads based on anything said that early. I think Invis and skitter saw the logic in
not
seeing the logic in Andante's posts, but I'm not sure if there were any more, and I don't have a better yardstick for townie behavior thus far.
I really like this post cuz it's similar to thoughts I was having while Pondering yesterday not all of which I've expressed. Saying that her intention to act foolhardy as a possible attempt to appear town would be easy to fake (220 irks me in this regard since it sounds like she's stating a strategy that isn't coming to fruition LOL) but if you look past the surface there's really nothing is exactly what I was thinking. There's a lot of words and not a whole lot of specific engagement. The latter part is more stuff that people have said something like publicly but I don't think anyone has said anything like the first paragraph so I really like that mindmeld. Also it's just good analysis that goes deeper
In post 52, Alianna wrote:
I'm not willing to townlean anyone on the basis of "has reads" but I guess I won't complain about it too much.
this stuff felt slightly wolf to me at surface level.
"I won't complain about it too much" just feels like a wolf perspective in a way that I could see alianna slipping up. either about some correct townreads or wanting to get townread herself for an active start
the idea of town complaining about some page 2 reads just doesnt make sense to me, even if u disagree with the reads. what I would expect town to do is like, evaluate implosion's alignment based on that, which doesn't happen; this post also assumes implosion town in a +0.05% wolf way
idk ive been back and forth on this
I like this post a lot too cuz I was back and forth on that post from Alianna and while I did ultimately decide (and still think) it's town I considered this side of the coin too. Also being similarly unsure lol
In post 72, Andante wrote:
If we have a serial killer, pretty sure it's implosion based on how he's playing, it reads to me as like "hey! tr me!!! look at my effort" and sk not knowing scum team? easy to do this
Interesting take and I lean town on it at the moment. I feel like scum would be hesitant to post something like this for fear of getting called out for focusing on SK.
I like this post. I don't think scum!Alianna would need to defend Andante here unless Andante/Alianna is a thing
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Post #263 (isolation #36) » Fri May 26, 2023 4:20 am
Postby Invisibility »
In post 261, Invisibility wrote:
The latter part is more stuff that people have said something like publicly
don't get me wrong though. It still also points to Woo town somewhat cuz it's still a succinct summary of stuff Skitter and I have been saying but like the thought process is slightly different than anything either of us have stated I think
In post 326, Alianna wrote:
I'm not doing that though. The players in null are not scumleans, they are null.
If you think everybody else is town, by definition you have to think there are several scum in that set of players. They are not null - you think they have a higher than average chance of being scum.
You are describing it as null but above you say you think there are likely scum in that group, and I don't suppose you think there are scum in your town reads, so what would you call that?
I do think it's kinda strange yeah. Kind of gives me the vibe that Drew tried to attack you on a flimsy foundation and then had to stick to it lol. I don't think you're limbait this game though. Not sure why you think that
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Post #376 (isolation #45) » Sat May 27, 2023 10:07 am
Postby Invisibility »
not sure how applicable my reasons are to you but I've mindmelded with some stuff he said and also he seems to be making an effort to solve. Changing his mind between 313 and 359 in light of new posts is townie. Not the world's strongest read but those are my reasons. Do you have a reason to think he's scummy?
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Post #379 (isolation #47) » Sat May 27, 2023 11:02 am
Postby Invisibility »
In post 377, Aisa wrote:
While I think that changing your reads can sometimes be towny, I don't think this is the case here. You say that he "changed his mind", but I could equally say that maybe he's "going with the flow". Other players had already said they townleaned Woo because of their recent posting. It's not like sheep had invested a lot of effort into casing him. Why
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Post #461 (isolation #52) » Mon May 29, 2023 1:54 am
Postby Invisibility »
In post 442, Aisa wrote:
I can kinda see why you would think this but I also think I can personally see some logic in her posting. There are also things she's said that seem towny to me and I wonder if it's a red flag that you seem to be ignoring those.
In post 445, Aisa wrote:
I believe I have seen the light. I am overcome with a sudden passion. I want to jump on this bandwagon. I wish to flip this right here and right now. (It's a good thing I can't.)
VOTE: Andante
I am in your clutches no longer you openwolf
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Post #462 (isolation #53) » Mon May 29, 2023 1:56 am
Postby Invisibility »
In post 456, Andante wrote:
skitter- I don’t understand the tunnel, am I supposed to just tunnel you back, it sounds like you made your mind up from n0 that you were gonna tunnel me this game
what exactly gives you the impression that Skitter is tunneling you? Cuz I'm having trouble seeing it