Open 880 - Normal Idea Mafia - Postgame

[UNOwen]

Hello everyone

VOTE: Skygazer
This is the way

[UNOwen]

UNVOTE: Skygazer
VOTE: usesPython

This is the way.

[UNOwen]

UNVOTE: usesPython
VOTE: heipizhu4

Sketchy fellow.

[UNOwen]

Could you explain elaborate your votes? You've had 3 'naked' votes, are they all simple rvs votes or...?

My thinking is similar to what MT posted earlier. Initially I thought python was making something out of nothing but then you posted this which I don't like:

I have a feeling I got wagoned whenever I tried to push the game out of rvs as town ...

"Woe is me" type posts are generally no bueno but also this doesn't look consistent with your earlier claim that the Not_Mafia vote wasn't serious.

[UNOwen]

oh that is pretty bad ngl

VOTE: HEM

cCS is also a sketchy character.

[UNOwen]

Post 62 is where I try to move the game forward, not 60

Ah.

UNVOTE: heipizhu
VOTE: cCS

[UNOwen]

I don't rate this Aureal wagon.

VOTE: Aureal

Why'd you kick it off?

[UNOwen]

well, rate it then. it's happening.

i don't think aureal should be allowed the play the way she's trying to play right now and if she wants to remain in the game she needs to towntell.

2/10.
What's the difference between Aureal and Not_Mafia?

[UNOwen]

I have actually seen Not Mafia contribute before, once.

But yes I see that there is a meta case on Aureal not usually being like this. Can you go back to the PT and ask HEM if he has played with Aureal before and thinks that the general town does stuff/scum trolls idea is correct?

[UNOwen]

excuse me are you townreading aureal or scumreading any of the wagon?

Idk, I'm certainly voting cCS which might be a clue. Answer question please?

[UNOwen]

right now there isnt any difference and id like to change that

OK, 344 also has a question for you.

[UNOwen]

The deadline is creeping up quite quickly. I recommend people sheep my vote for now, because this:

oh that is pretty bad ngl

VOTE: HEM

Looks fake, and not the post of someone who genuinely thinks that the point is any good.

[UNOwen]

HEM wagon isn't the worst thing in the world, the initial Aureal push and the way he responded to me asking about it was suspicious last time I thought about it. The traitor signaling stuff seems silly though.

I'm probably right about cCS but will give this game some actual thought tomorrow.

[UNOwen]

hola

I am around to chat if there are folks to chat with

[UNOwen]

thank you I agree

question is why?

[UNOwen]

@Skygazer, STD - are either of you actually reading the thread at this moment?

[UNOwen]

heeey

what's a brief overview of the game as you see it
also why is cCS town?

[UNOwen]

who's scum if not snivy

If not snivy? Not sure really, I have not had the time this week to give this much thought.

HEM and Drew both looked bad to me on my skimming. Heip was not as bad as I thought when I voted him but I has been less present now and the initial stuff was still iffy.
Others are either not playing or playing in a way that doesn't immediately stand out as AI to someone paying as much attention as I have.

I think that bianco and Flavor are town though.

snivy I read as scum not just on the post I pointed out but also some of the posts they made a page or two ago. I'm not sure if there's actually an argument to push here, it's just how I interpreted the tone (which has been good previously).

[UNOwen]

I think hem is scum

CCs looks like he's trying

UNVOTE: camelCasedSnivy
VOTE: hem


Is it meta on cCS or just in general? I don't think some of the questions he's been throwing about have been sincere.

[UNOwen]

I feel like he goofed off a little more in weird dreams but it's not really a strong meta read

I maybe being weird but I just feel like it's not what I want to do d1

Probably being weird but ok.

Do you have a Drew town read too or just was uninterested in voting for him?

[UNOwen]

if youre talking about the HEM one that one got me confused

Yes a bit the whole traitor discussion which I could see as scum being "haha, why are people having a problem with this of all things". But it was mainly the questions to Aureal re: voting which felt pointless and the sort of question that you would know the answer to already considering how they've been playing.

[UNOwen]

Talk me through your FL town read, I think they do some things that are pretty obv town, but I have not seen those things yet from him.

I have no opinion on Flavor's posts, I just thought that Morning Tweet was town. Her take on heip pretty much matched my own at the time and I also thought that the position on bianco isn't something that she'd go with as scum, or anyone really. The "I think Bianco is town" -> "Having read the vote I think bianco is town" is more likely to be a natural thought.

That said my take on how she'd play is based mainly on mod commentary (and also a suspected alt but that isn't 100%).

[UNOwen]

because i want em to place a vote?

So you're saying that you thought your posts would push Aureal into voting despite every other post they've made this game suggesting otherwise? I don't believe it.

[UNOwen]

I'm content with my vote.

@heip - did you catch up?

[UNOwen]

VOTE: Doctor Drew
Was going to vote cCS but the reaction to being blocked looked legit, initial impression is that's not the sort of thing that could be faked.

I'm doc and protected Infinity last night.

[UNOwen]

Just a plain old doctor me..

[UNOwen]

We def shoot in ccs/uno today, still think uno is scummier though

Where did these takes come from?

[UNOwen]

*Infinity

They seem like the kind of player who would be targeted N1 if town, which I lean towards. Pretty considered opinions and unlikely to inadvertently lead us off a cliff but also not really seen as super prominent. I think these are the sorts of players that scum are best getting out early before they build up some sort of influence.

[UNOwen]

Who do you think is scum and why did heip get flashwagoned d1 instead of you

Oh ok then it's just the flashwagon on heip. Subjectively I'd say that he had tapped out a bit and was therefore scummier so more likely to get wagoned regardless of scum influence. I doubt they would particularly care about leaving me around either, it's not like I'm trusted and I'm sure they can pick up that I'm not the sort of player who usually turns that around.

I thought that Drew could be scum on day 1 because he's been posting but not in a way that looks like he's actually interested and then he popped in earlier but said nothing of consequence, so I'll vote him for that. But obviously that's not conclusive and I'll need to reconsider since I've lost confidence in my cCS read.