In post 6, Save The Dragons wrote: tonight, tonight
it all began tonight
i saw you and the world went away
1 in 3 rule always works right, right?
VOTE: STD
In post 6, Save The Dragons wrote: tonight, tonight
it all began tonight
i saw you and the world went away
1 in 3 rule always works right, right?
What is this? I smell shenanigans and I'm not in the know
fight fight fight fight fight!In post 63, Merlyn wrote:Oh yeah?In post 55, Flower wrote: Crazy how people still aren't voting Merlyn
am I paranoid in thinking the timing of your reply is a little susIn post 53, Klazam wrote:And hi there too
The “with us” component is bothering me. Feels like “yes is town, just like us”. Just the emphasis is eh.In post 48, Flower wrote: Crazy that yessiree rolled town with us
VOTE: Flower
care to elaborate on the TBone read? especially since he expressed interest in hammering you for the luls after he dropped scumread on me who kickstarted ur wagonIn post 102, Klazam wrote: That was fast lol. Was curious to the reaction from flower.
I think I’m parking my vote there still.
It’s hard for me to read through this mix of jokey reasons and serious reasonings. TBone I think is town, yes probably is town.
Merlyn, I’m eh not sure on.
I'm down to talk about feelings. We are born to feel, after all.In post 132, Merlyn wrote: My bad, I mean to say I'm not doing 'facts' this game, only feelings
I am surprised to hear you thought you were going to be eliminated. You're saying it past tense- what's changed to make you think otherwise now?
I see you, I even like the "entrance after having daytalk in a PT" read, but why not mention anything about it when you dropped the read?In post 205, T-Bone wrote: To answer someone's other question I think every post I make is to gauge reactions, frankly. I'm trying to find scum so I make posts for me. The 'im going to find scum after everyone posts three times" bit was for my amusement but then it took long enough I leaned into it and dug into some early things that pinged me. I don't know that Flower and yessiree are the scumteam. But I don't know that they are not either. To me, they looked like players who knew one another's alignment because they were skipping on the feeling out stage with one another.
It is okay if (royal) you read those posts and don't agree with me. I frequently pick up on things no one else does. Sometimes I'm right sometimes I'm not. Maybe what I see is just coincidence. Maybe it's nothing. Not a big deal.
no, thats why its spicyIn post 217, Klazam wrote: Got any reasoning for RCE?
depends on how you look at the TBone vs drew quibble I guessIn post 222, Flower wrote: Alianna feels town. If T-Bones town scum's probably in a nothing slot like RCE
You explained when you dropped your scumread on me and Flower in your 3rd post, you actually had something that could substantiate itIn post 230, T-Bone wrote:Not sure what you're asking here?In post 215, yessiree wrote:I see you, I even like the "entrance after having daytalk in a PT" read, but why not mention anything about it when you dropped the read?In post 205, T-Bone wrote: To answer someone's other question I think every post I make is to gauge reactions, frankly. I'm trying to find scum so I make posts for me. The 'im going to find scum after everyone posts three times" bit was for my amusement but then it took long enough I leaned into it and dug into some early things that pinged me. I don't know that Flower and yessiree are the scumteam. But I don't know that they are not either. To me, they looked like players who knew one another's alignment because they were skipping on the feeling out stage with one another.
It is okay if (royal) you read those posts and don't agree with me. I frequently pick up on things no one else does. Sometimes I'm right sometimes I'm not. Maybe what I see is just coincidence. Maybe it's nothing. Not a big deal.
i'd like to clarify a particularly unfortunate diction in "dropped", as in whisked into being, not as in something that's relinquishedIn post 231, yessiree wrote:You explained when you dropped your scumread on me and Flower in your 3rd post, you actually had something that could substantiate itIn post 230, T-Bone wrote:Not sure what you're asking here?In post 215, yessiree wrote:I see you, I even like the "entrance after having daytalk in a PT" read, but why not mention anything about it when you dropped the read?In post 205, T-Bone wrote: To answer someone's other question I think every post I make is to gauge reactions, frankly. I'm trying to find scum so I make posts for me. The 'im going to find scum after everyone posts three times" bit was for my amusement but then it took long enough I leaned into it and dug into some early things that pinged me. I don't know that Flower and yessiree are the scumteam. But I don't know that they are not either. To me, they looked like players who knew one another's alignment because they were skipping on the feeling out stage with one another.
It is okay if (royal) you read those posts and don't agree with me. I frequently pick up on things no one else does. Sometimes I'm right sometimes I'm not. Maybe what I see is just coincidence. Maybe it's nothing. Not a big deal.
I'm asking why you didn't think to mention it then and there?
flower(usespython) and I are pretty aware of each other's meta from our past gamesIn post 240, RCEnigma wrote:As a fellow moon thinker I like where TBone is coming from. However not to speak for yessiree but I think it’s common to make a snap judgement on players one way or the other. Which is going to shade how you interact with them, or don’t even.In post 234, Save The Dragons wrote:this seems wildIn post 176, T-Bone wrote: It's actually funny because I had thought that yessiree had dropped the PT tell on page 1 post 23 when he made a nonsequiter reference to Klaz's scum games or lack thereof. But the way Flower responds to yessiree and to everyone else they respond to upon their entrance is so different and also says "i have a PT" and it says to me "I have a PT with yessiree". Compare Flower's 25 a response to STD and their entrance, to 27 a response to yessiree. Then in 34 to Merlyn and again in 38 to STD. One of these things is not like the other. There is some get-to-know-you energy in Flower's responses to STD and Merlyn vs I-know-everything-about-you in response to yessiree. No, I'm not referencing to overall familiarity from other games. There is always this feeling out period that players need to do at the start of the game to see where they stand. Flower did not feel out yessiree at all like they did other players. That tells me they did it in their PT already. Flower goes on to feel out Klaz because they are meeting for the first time in this game on page 3. Then when Flower addresses yessiree again in 68 that's gone once again.
There's no sense in me quoting out of context so I will link to where I think it begins and you should read with my comments in mind.
viewtopic.php?p=13902327#p13902327
gonna butt in here and say I get where he's coming from too. Looking at opening posts for awkwardness/unnaturalness/associations is a neat way to find scum in early game, especially since there's daytalkIn post 243, Doctor Drew wrote:I mean, why do you like where they are coming from? Especially how they have acted since that post.....do you like that as well?In post 240, RCEnigma wrote:As a fellow moon thinker I like where TBone is coming from. However not to speak for yessiree but I think it’s common to make a snap judgement on players one way or the other. Which is going to shade how you interact with them, or don’t even.In post 234, Save The Dragons wrote:this seems wildIn post 176, T-Bone wrote: It's actually funny because I had thought that yessiree had dropped the PT tell on page 1 post 23 when he made a nonsequiter reference to Klaz's scum games or lack thereof. But the way Flower responds to yessiree and to everyone else they respond to upon their entrance is so different and also says "i have a PT" and it says to me "I have a PT with yessiree". Compare Flower's 25 a response to STD and their entrance, to 27 a response to yessiree. Then in 34 to Merlyn and again in 38 to STD. One of these things is not like the other. There is some get-to-know-you energy in Flower's responses to STD and Merlyn vs I-know-everything-about-you in response to yessiree. No, I'm not referencing to overall familiarity from other games. There is always this feeling out period that players need to do at the start of the game to see where they stand. Flower did not feel out yessiree at all like they did other players. That tells me they did it in their PT already. Flower goes on to feel out Klaz because they are meeting for the first time in this game on page 3. Then when Flower addresses yessiree again in 68 that's gone once again.
There's no sense in me quoting out of context so I will link to where I think it begins and you should read with my comments in mind.
viewtopic.php?p=13902327#p13902327
Also, moon logic/thinking is forever now known as a Drew Post.....get with the times RC....
I don't know what TBone saw differently, but I mean, it was still early game so anythin was better than nothin, plus the bone man HAD to do something after hyping himself up for it for the grand solveIn post 254, Doctor Drew wrote: This kinda my point, why use it as a basis to case someone? Merlyn and I have made direct references to each other and taken jabs at each other, why not use that as an attempt to case us? Is it that Bone Zone isn't as threatened by Ol Weirdo Drew and Newbie Merlyn as he is by someone with a much older join date and someone who is great at mech solving? And when Ol Weirdo Drew made his case for scumBone he caught the collateral damage, since they know some people have an impression that Drew is lim bait and could be an easy push. Just look at how they engage with Drew after the 'lolhammer'.......that is not in good faith.
I continue to say it, but Bad To The Bone is just that, a bad guy.
Also, Drew is going to refer to themselves in the third person from here on out, deal with it nerds.
Pre Edit: yessiree, I kinda get that.....but I am looking at the bigger picture about how they handled things after just the initial push of you and flower.
remind me what ur angle was? I mentally noted his reaction to being put to L-1 and the aggressive tone shift that came after, but I've seen town!bone react the same way when pushed by scum beforeIn post 257, Doctor Drew wrote: I legit was excited for what their solve was lol, I love shit like that.
But, do you see my angle here?
I guess we're just not seeing eye to eye thenIn post 267, Doctor Drew wrote:From what I read there, Bone Collector seemed much more rational and less trolly there, and actually picked apart BM's posts instead of the gotcha posts he is trying to make here.In post 265, yessiree wrote: viewtopic.php?sid=&f=52&t=86191&user_se ... B%5D=15310
somewhere after Battle Mage (scum) votes T-Bone (town), but you can check his reaction to my shitpush too
also I might be approaching my quota so Imma be conservative with my posting from now on
VOTE: MerlynIn post 273, Flower wrote: Merlyn's scumposting again, also Alianna is obvtown
will you consider a Merlyn lim?In post 276, RCEnigma wrote: In a vacuum I’d have to challenge my assertion that flower/yessiree are both town based on their interaction which I’m not ready to do yet. I’ve been going back and forth on TBone/drew because there could be something there. There is smoke. But also both have a stance where I can put myself in their shoes and say yeah, I’ve been on this side before.
I’d say std is the wolfiest voter.
I don't do pocketing, that's not how I rollIn post 279, T-Bone wrote:I want everyone else to know that my instinct is to start leaning yessirree town for latest posting. But yessirree going through our old games makes me think he knows how easy I am to pocket when you start agreeing with me. In case that is relevant to any of you meta-lovers out there.In post 265, yessiree wrote: viewtopic.php?sid=&f=52&t=86191&user_se ... B%5D=15310
somewhere after Battle Mage (scum) votes T-Bone (town), but you can check his reaction to my shitpush too
also I might be approaching my quota so Imma be conservative with my posting from now on
oh haha, thought you were voting STDIn post 288, RCEnigma wrote:I mean, that’s where my vote is…In post 285, yessiree wrote:will you consider a Merlyn lim?In post 276, RCEnigma wrote: In a vacuum I’d have to challenge my assertion that flower/yessiree are both town based on their interaction which I’m not ready to do yet. I’ve been going back and forth on TBone/drew because there could be something there. There is smoke. But also both have a stance where I can put myself in their shoes and say yeah, I’ve been on this side before.
I’d say std is the wolfiest voter.
I'm not impressed by this MerlynIn post 291, Merlyn wrote: look at that wagon and tell me something isn't smelly
RC- voted me on pg 5. Reasoning? "Is Merlyn still voting me? No? Well here's a vote anyway"
Klazam- sus'ed me bc he wants 'facts' but hasn't provided any
Flower- I mean, please just ISO. They have targeted me since the very begining.
In the meantime, there's someone in this game whose whole contribution has been one liners and song lyrics, and I guess we just don't care?
you realize what you've been doing isn't good enough to dig yourself out of your current position?In post 330, Merlyn wrote: Lol Im not impressed by your scumhunting skills yes. It'll be interesting to come back to the assertion that posting song lyrics is more honest and see what alignments the three of us are.
In any case I've pointed out what I wanted to point out, you can all make your choices
whats a "culting" and how is it something that can be owed?In post 339, Doctor Drew wrote: I still owe Flower a culting as well, but maybe std first
whisper it to my earIn post 356, Save The Dragons wrote: let's lim tbone instead
TBone's "solve" on flower and I was mainly drawn from how he felt flower's interaction with me is different comes to othersIn post 419, Aureal wrote:When did it become Drew instead of you?In post 417, yessiree wrote: TBone do you got anything other than your flower/drew scumread
why strongman isn't a guaranteed kill against a jailor btw?In post 492, Alianna wrote:Strongman isn't guaranteed, a no-kill would still be pretty much a guilty, bar any weird shenanigans.In post 491, Flower wrote: Wait nvm strongman in that case
We're pretty useless if the strongman is still alive
Mind you, you'd be alive.
In post 512, Alianna wrote:I meant that strongman isn't guaranteed to exist in the setup.In post 511, yessiree wrote:why strongman isn't a guaranteed kill against a jailor btw?In post 492, Alianna wrote:Strongman isn't guaranteed, a no-kill would still be pretty much a guilty, bar any weird shenanigans.In post 491, Flower wrote: Wait nvm strongman in that case
We're pretty useless if the strongman is still alive
Mind you, you'd be alive.
Jailkeeper setups are:Garlic Bread Society wrote:
,Mafia Rolecop, andTown FollowerTown Jailkeeper
,Town Follower, andTown JailkeeperMafia 1-Shot Strongman
,Town Jailkeeper, andMafia 1-Shot StrongmanTown Babysitter
If you feel I'm least likely to be town, there must be some sort of metric or something you're using to compare me with the rest of players no?In post 518, Alianna wrote:Hmm...I think part of it is that they just feel the least likely to be town out of everyone here to me. I don't have an explanation for that though.In post 510, Alianna wrote:EBWOP for quotes.In post 508, Alianna wrote:Nope, that one is actually just a vibe.In post 506, Doctor Drew wrote:I am kinda meh on them, I know you said you can't point to anything in particular......but is there something tangible to your vibes?In post 502, Alianna wrote: I couldn't point to anything in particular, but yessiree gives me weird vibes.
VOTE: yessiree
Have a vote for now.
what are you guys getting at with this "in the background" thing, I see it's been thrown around but like where are you going with thisIn post 525, RCEnigma wrote:It’s like I said this would be a thing lol.In post 507, Doctor Drew wrote: I will say I feel like yess and RC have been more in the background(could say std as well, but I might be biased because they always seem that way imo).
So I wouldn't mind really poking and prodding them a bit.
VOTE: RC
define "wooden"In post 540, Save The Dragons wrote: Aureal feels wooden to me that's why i want to vote there
not sure why the slot is getting tr so much
iuno, her posts are usually dressed in frills, but the fluffs are interspersed with actual analysisIn post 546, Save The Dragons wrote:this seems like it took some time to write up instead of being organically made. it looks a little performative. things like that.In post 363, Aureal wrote: Whee, page eight brought the fun!
Also what's this?
Is this... Am I detecting an attempt to distance by claiming that RCEIn post 227, RCEnigma wrote: Well tbf. I probably would have just hammered klazam and figured it out tomorrow. Think there was one more person that was active around the time and opted not to hammer so townpoint to them.
But maybe that makes klazam my partner actually… or that person could have been klazams partner.
Actually now that I’m on the topic I dunno why we’ve kinda blown past it and none of the voters followed up on what I would assume was a pressure wagon out of rvs.would'vejust hammered there for the heck of it, now that this is a safe thing to push since townies have been distracted with shiny town wagons? Why yes, I believe it is! It's so self conscious of that way in which RCE both made a flippant comment acting like hammering Klazam there was actually a good option (y'know, in case T-Bone actually does) and then immediately they start working to discredit the push.
maybe i'm just wrong on aureal maybe i need to reread some things but the post quoted above bothered me a little.
why are you delegating ur read on me to Alianna? and why does it hinges entirely on ur townread of alianna?In post 549, Doctor Drew wrote: This is where I am kinda at, you and Aureal both kinda in the null slot, with me maybe slightly leaning scum on her.....so I wouldn't be too opposed to a wagon on her.
I feel like Alianna is being same ol townAlianna, and until she proves me wrong I will trust her read on yessir. And I feel, as I said, yessir and RC are the background players(or as Bone put it, in my blind spot), and RC seems to be making posts that don't seem genuine.
I could see you as scum, but I just feel you are in your town meta, but don't feel as strong about that as I do as Alianna.
Bone I just feel better about in general after really thinking about it. But the strongman thing is still a possibility, so I can't discount that possibility
my dude, that is equivalent to not having formulated a read on me because there is zero thought process behind that read, so seems to me you are hiding behind ur alianna townread to not take any accountabilityIn post 554, Doctor Drew wrote:I have formulated my read on you, I even described it as 'meh'........and when my probably top town read is voting you, I will listen to them on a 'meh' slot such as yours.In post 553, yessiree wrote:why are you delegating ur read on me to Alianna? and why does it hinges entirely on ur townread of alianna?In post 549, Doctor Drew wrote: This is where I am kinda at, you and Aureal both kinda in the null slot, with me maybe slightly leaning scum on her.....so I wouldn't be too opposed to a wagon on her.
I feel like Alianna is being same ol townAlianna, and until she proves me wrong I will trust her read on yessir. And I feel, as I said, yessir and RC are the background players(or as Bone put it, in my blind spot), and RC seems to be making posts that don't seem genuine.
I could see you as scum, but I just feel you are in your town meta, but don't feel as strong about that as I do as Alianna.
Bone I just feel better about in general after really thinking about it. But the strongman thing is still a possibility, so I can't discount that possibility
you've played with me a fair bit so i would think you know how i operate at a baseline, and i have enough content this game for you to work with to formulate ur own opinion
You are leaving out that I am voting RC and not you, I feel good keeping the wagon between you two......and personally feel better that RC would be scum over you.
its not about whether you townread me or not, it's about the way you pivoted off alianna in 506 while probing her of the read which didn't feel authenticIn post 561, Doctor Drew wrote: Excuse me, my dude.
You are acting like I was town reading you and the Alianna came around and voted you and that made me change my tune. And again, I voted RC since I had a similar feel about you that I had with RC......so I liked these competing wagons.
And that read list was inspired by std's post about no one else scum reading Aureal. I started comparing her to everyone else, and then turned into just a read list.....mainly for my own use tbh......
yesIn post 582, T-Bone wrote: Man I could do two funny things which one should I do, the first or the second?
yup I'm up for another dance since you asked so nicelyIn post 588, Doctor Drew wrote:Don't be angry I got lucky in swingers lol. It is clouding your judgment(unless you simply are just scum again here).In post 581, yessiree wrote: yes I seriously thought you got scrongbongled there, why, you couldn't tell from my overflowing excitement there?
But, care for another dance?
Pre Edit: Ooh that's a zinger
Pre Edit2: Is that E-1?
yup Im bumping Aureal outta my townread for this abomination of a readIn post 589, Aureal wrote: Imagine if the team is just yessiree and Drew.