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Post #36 (isolation #6) » Mon Oct 30, 2023 8:53 am
Postby Black »
I don't really like how SS showed up and didn't say anything about pisskop and the conversation going on with him. 33 sorta feels on-the-fence regarding Dunn's motives which isn't really scummy by itself but in this situation it feels like he might be trying to get ahead of the pisskop wagon and pre-emptively alleviate some pressure there
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Post #47 (isolation #10) » Mon Oct 30, 2023 9:07 am
Postby Black »
Dann feels townie based simply on the fact that he has played two games with me very recently, one where I was scum and one where I was town, and I think he's the type of player to be able to read me well, even early on. Saying I feel townie could be like a psuedo-pockety thing but I want to believe he's just accurate town here
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Post #48 (isolation #11) » Mon Oct 30, 2023 9:10 am
Postby Black »
Dann that reminds me, I wanted to ask you something. I might as well ask it here even though it's not related to the game. How much did you compare my play between Mini Normal 2313 and Open 885 while they were ongoing? Did playing with me in those games simultaneously have any effect on your read on me in either game?
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Post #54 (isolation #13) » Mon Oct 30, 2023 9:20 am
Postby Black »
In post 52, Dannflor wrote:
i try not to let bleed between simultaneous games influence me too much but obviously it does still happen
I should probably work on this XD
My scum read of you in 885 was heavily influenced by me knowing you were town in 2313. I couldn't get over the differences in your playstyle even though you had a decent explanation for it
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Post #108 (isolation #22) » Mon Oct 30, 2023 11:30 am
Postby Black »
If I read him as just vanilla then 91 and 95 kinda feel like rolefishing. 91 in a "does my claim interfere with your role" kinda way and 95 in a more direct way veiled as a joke
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Post #111 (isolation #23) » Mon Oct 30, 2023 11:36 am
Postby Black »
I think the vote on shaddowez in 94 feels weird because gob seems to distrust people that vote with an explanation in their first post, but shaddowez's reason was literally just "I haven't played with Titus in awhile" which seems like pure RVS to me
In post 111, Black wrote:
I think the vote on shaddowez in 94 feels weird because gob seems to distrust people that vote with an explanation in their first post, but shaddowez's reason was literally just "I haven't played with Titus in awhile" which seems like pure RVS to me
What the fuck. Are you gonna just fucking link my post and give your bad take every time now? We get it, you scumread me. Save it for a big post later in the day.
Eh. I wouldn't even really call it a scumread. Just eyebrow raising
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Post #124 (isolation #28) » Mon Oct 30, 2023 12:38 pm
Postby Black »
Titus's reasoning here doesn't really feel pure. The only way I could question if there are enough points for a legit Cop claim would be if I were a 2 point PR myself and assumed the scum took no abilities. The reason for voting me doesn't check out
In post 124, Black wrote:
Titus's reasoning here doesn't really feel pure. The only way I could question if there are enough points for a legit Cop claim would be if I were a 2 point PR myself and assumed the scum took no abilities. The reason for voting me doesn't check out
There was an or in that statement. Pretty convenient you left that out.
Your "you might know he's town" reasoning feels better and I can't really argue against you there. I'm just not sure why you included the second reasoning
In post 124, Black wrote:
Titus's reasoning here doesn't really feel pure. The only way I could question if there are enough points for a legit Cop claim would be if I were a 2 point PR myself and assumed the scum took no abilities. The reason for voting me doesn't check out
There was an or in that statement. Pretty convenient you left that out.
Your "you might know he's town" reasoning feels better and I can't really argue against you there. I'm just not sure why you included the second reasoning
Because it's what snapped into my head...stream of consciousness yo
There is a 50% chance of any 1 point rolling a 2 point ability, but only if there are 2 points available. By default with 3 points, this results in 2 50% rolls. Thats a 75% chance of rolling 1 of the above 5 abilities. so, there is a 20% chance of rolling a cop on top of that. That's 15% chance of a cop by default.
Although the odds go up when 4, 5, or 6 points are allotted, the underlying idea does not change. There is an informed mafia option available, however.
I actually didn't realize it was this complex but I still don't understand how I could know there isn't a cop if I were scum? Am I missing something or am I correct that Titus was wrong about that?
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Post #197 (isolation #42) » Tue Oct 31, 2023 8:59 am
Postby Black »
In post 190, shaddowez wrote:
Titus vote hopped like 4 times in her first 10ish posts, I'm pretty sure most of it was RVS-like. Do you actually think she's scummy for anything specific, or is this just shade?
At the time I didn't like Titus implying that I was informed about the point distribution and I wanted to hear her go into detail about that
What? That doesn't explain your Dann scumread at all
At the point in time I voted Dann
the only "reason" that Dann had given for voting me was "greater than rand scum" with no further explanation.
So let me make sure I'm understanding you correctly
You scumread Dann because he voted for you without further explanation. Then in 178 you say that Gob "seems to think" that doing this is scummy. You obviously think it's scummy too so why did you phrase it this way? If you think Dann is scummy for this then why did you write 172 and 178 in a way that makes it seem like gob thinks its scummy and you don't really agree with him?
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Post #210 (isolation #44) » Tue Oct 31, 2023 11:24 am
Postby Black »
In post 209, davesaz wrote:
You've never seen someone use sarcasm in written communication?
Can you like... clearly and explicitly explain your thoughts on gob and Dann? Maybe I'm just dense but it just feels like you are beating around the bush and saying indirect things
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Post #216 (isolation #46) » Tue Oct 31, 2023 12:04 pm
Postby Black »
In post 214, davesaz wrote:
I do something that isn't scummy.
Gob says it's scummy.
Dann does basically the same thing.
I say what Dann did is scummy because it's just like what gob said was scummy coming from me.
I don't understand how this is sarcasm but ok. I'm not getting anything out of this interaction. It seems like you are being intentionally cryptic and difficult
Like I'm clearly confused about your Dann scumread, so I asked you to elaborate on it and you linked to a post that doesn't elaborate on it. I ask you about that and then you imply I have never read sarcasm before
If you feel better about Dann then why is your vote still there and not on Dunn or gob?
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Post #233 (isolation #48) » Wed Nov 01, 2023 6:03 am
Postby Black »
In post 230, Crescent wrote:
Odd sequence: Titus votes Black. Drew votes Black. Roden calls Titus and Black both town, and Gob says he doesn't like Roden. Drew then responds to Gob saying he also doesn't like Roden. Shortly after this, Black votes Roden. Titus changes her mind and votes Roden, and Drew immediately asks her why she's backing off on Black.
What Drew never provides however, are his own reasons to suspect Black or Rodon to begin with. He just sheeps people onto both of them, and then he questions why the first person he sheeped changed her mind. It doesn't feel like a natural town progression at all.
VOTE: Doctor Drew
I like this thought progression. Drew's ISO is essentially... act exasperated at the number of posts, add pressure on existing suspects, and then question people that remove pressure off said suspects. I think I would be ok with a Drew vote depending on what Roden does when he returns to the thread
I agree that Drew seems to be drifting through D1 while still
In post 230, Crescent wrote:
Speaking of Gob, they feel like they're on crack, is this normal for them?
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Post #236 (isolation #50) » Wed Nov 01, 2023 8:16 am
Postby Black »
In post 235, Dunnstral wrote:
Seems a bit too easy for Doctor Drew to be mafia. They aren't exactly hiding that they aren't doing much.
In my experience scum tend to try and hide it similarly to how he would be doing it here. By acknowledging it yet still trying to push their agenda here and there
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Post #244 (isolation #52) » Wed Nov 01, 2023 11:19 am
Postby Black »
In post 243, gob wrote:
He's had a towny state of mind thoever.
Admitting that you're not doing anything is like the easiest thing for scum to do and it shows he's aware of it and that it might look scummy. This could come from town or scum so I'm not sure why you are ruling out one of the options
In post 243, gob wrote:
He's had a towny state of mind thoever.
Admitting that you're not doing anything is like the easiest thing for scum to do and it shows he's aware of it and that it might look scummy. This could come from town or scum so I'm not sure why you are ruling out one of the options
The way he randomly responded to davesaz mentioning they didnt do anything. The only person who goes out of there way to say something like that is town. A scum would do something else before that.
Scum that wants to emphasize that they are doing nothing in order to continue doing nothing might do it. I'm not saying this makes Drew scum but I don't see how it clears him tbh
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Post #249 (isolation #55) » Wed Nov 01, 2023 11:49 am
Postby Black »
Everytime I have seen/read Alisae play town they have tried way harder than this but maybe I need a bigger sample size. Are there any games in particular you are basing that read off of Drew?