You don't say!
VOTE: Emperor
Why?In post 13, Elmo TeH AzN wrote:Cop was worthless to begin with if you think about it.
I'm assuming you were reading the list of roles here https://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?ti ... ch_(Setup)In post 13, Elmo TeH AzN wrote:Welp This was a fun game. So what PR we got left? Tracker? Oh Na we got the vig. Yes I'm reading this setup as I move down the list.
That's true, but at the end of the day it's a chance. It's not like the Cop was going to get wrong results(unless the SK has chosen cop immunity and he gets checked), he'd either get results or no results.In post 26, Elmo TeH AzN wrote:Lets think about this. We're relying on interactions from the SK and Mafia both to know what the switch positions are and was so if they are working together by random act of chance. Then they would be able to block out any Town PR
No, you're not allowed toIn post 26, Elmo TeH AzN wrote:I saw switch I signed up. But hey I'm not allowed to mess up at all apparently?
Interesting, I don't agree. But why do you think so?In post 32, Raya36 wrote:Also I feel like this would be a game where scum would have the confidence to try to take a town leading role
lolIn post 80, Looker wrote:I skimmed it, but I was really just desperate to be in a game. No offense to the designer. I was just going to play it like a regular normal.
I'll answer this after Raya responds to me.In post 81, Elmo TeH AzN wrote:Side note why does no one make sense in this game
In post 55, Tanner wrote:I forgot to close the window, sorry.
Do you agree Math is basically caught scum already?
I'm assuming you meant to ask why he said that you are caught scum already?In post 62, NDMath wrote:Excuse me what?
In post 63, Tanner wrote:I said I forgot to close the window.
What happened here @ND?In post 70, NDMath wrote:Ah. I see.
Oh. GotchaIn post 94, Raya36 wrote:Because 2 of the power roles were killed Night 0. I think that's a solid confidence boost
I thought you made that conclusion based on the fact that we have a vig and an SK, who'll both try to kill mafia and I wouldn't expect them to kill town leaders, not early game at least. I thought you were thinking along those lines.In post 106, Raya36 wrote:What was on your mind?
Nice deflection.In post 115, NDMath wrote:I'm struggling with how you could misinterpret that interaction as bad as you did if you weren't trying to paint me scum.
VOTE: Knightmare491
But you choose to answer him.NDMath wrote:@Tanner "I see" meaning I see you have no plans to be cooperative with me so I should just drop it.
Why do you disagree with the ND wagon?In post 127, MariaR wrote:I disagree with both of the main wagons at the moment. Here's something I'll start up just to see where it takes me
VOTE: Nips
To me he repliedIn post 83, Knightmare491 wrote:I don't even know what the hell is this interaction.
In post 55, Tanner wrote:I forgot to close the window, sorry.
Do you agree Math is basically caught scum already?In post 62, NDMath wrote:Excuse me what?ND is asking Tanner why he thinks ND is "caught scum already", but Tanner has already sort of explained it in the below post(in spoiler).
Spoiler:
In post 63, Tanner wrote:I said I forgot to close the window.
Okay maybe ND did not read that post made by Tanner(60) or did not come to the same conclusion, which is why he asked 62 Which is why when I originally made this post I asked him "what happened here" because Tanner did not answer him yet he dropped the question by saying what he said below.
In post 70, NDMath wrote:Ah. I see.
While it's not bad in isolation, it is pretty scummy when you consider other things. He's more focused on not being "scum read".In post 62, NDMath wrote:I voted because I get scumread for not voting.
That's what they all sayIn post 159, NDMath wrote:I struggle to see how you interpret it the way you are, or how you view 60 as an explanation
Do you have any substantial reads?In post 163, Raya36 wrote:I change my mind about scum taking a townleading role. Scum are lurking and hiding
It was half and half, post was kinda Lamist.In post 181, Raya36 wrote:Was there a reason for this vote or was it just rvs?
Okay, agree on the Tanner read. Is the dunn read tonal? What about overkill, why are you TRing him? alban is null for me.In post 181, Raya36 wrote:I have dunnstral, tanner, alban, and overki11 as town reads/leans right now.
Solon I'm not sure about anymore.
Elmo and NDMath as scum reads/leans.
Everyone else is null.
Yeah which is why I dropped the idea that posting about the bad start, etc is AI.In post 183, Raya36 wrote:But many people were saying something about how low our chances are now or how bad the start was. Why are they ok? Also what would you think if the first poster didn't mention the two town prs killed?
I've played elsewhere 4-5 years ago. Thanks to the quarantine I have loads of time again, why I joined the site.In post 234, Black Ranger wrote:Is Mafiascum all the experience you have in mafia?In post 83, Knightmare491 wrote:I don't even know what the hell is this interaction.
Didn't see much right or wrong with that slot, don't know what to make of their "slip" which later on and ND is scum so that.In post 244, Black Ranger wrote:Why do you disagree with the Nips wagon?In post 131, Knightmare491 wrote:Why do you disagree with the ND wagon?In post 127, MariaR wrote:I disagree with both of the main wagons at the moment. Here's something I'll start up just to see where it takes me
VOTE: Nips
Get some new specs yoIn post 269, chkflip wrote:Looker, sell me on Mathwagon because I honestly don't see it.
In post 208, MariaR wrote:Knight looks good. He's in a tunnel and his tone comes off like he really believes the read.
134In post 272, chkflip wrote:I read 62 as someone of who knows how their past games have gone, understand a weakness of theirs, and are trying to improve. That's NAI. You wanna try again and not be cheeky this time?
Wow that's a wild discredit, did you even read why I find it scummy?In post 275, Klick wrote:A lot of Knightmare's content feels empty and like he's looking for stances to take instead of pushing what he believes. His NDMath vote is an example of what I mean there. Things like NDMath answering a question posed to him while saying he wants to drop the conversation just... aren't that scummy? And it doesn't feel like something that he'd believe actually makes NDMath scum.
And I played with Knightmare briefly in a recent Newbie game and didn't notice anything like this.
Difference is that game the person accusing me was kind of in a death tunnel and it did not feel like he was scum. Which is why I was upset.In post 316, Klick wrote:When playing that game it wast his tunneling that I townread, it was more that he seemed to be getting genuinely upset that he was getting scumread in a way that felt like he knew people were wrong about him. Whereas here, posts like 277 don't give me that impression - he seems more annoyed that my logic against him doesn't look sound than he does about me potentially being wrong about him.In post 300, Black Ranger wrote:In post 275, Klick wrote:A lot of Knightmare's content feels empty and like he's looking for stances to take instead of pushing what he believes. His NDMath vote is an example of what I mean there. Things like NDMath answering a question posed to him while saying he wants to drop the conversation just... aren't that scummy? And it doesn't feel like something that he'd believe actually makes NDMath scum.
And I played with Knightmare briefly in a recent Newbie game and didn't notice anything like this.
A quick dive on this game shows me they're really abrasive when they tunnel. How fakeable is his tunnel on NDMath here?
I'm flat-out not seeing your point on the ND tunnel thing. Nothing in his push looks hard to fake at all. If you think that, you're gonna have to show me what you see.
I think it's obvious from my post that I'm TLing Maria because of her tone. "Tone is too calm for someone who's scum and suddenly under pressure with deadline approaching"In post 329, Klick wrote:I'm glad you bring this post up thoughIn post 327, Dunnstral wrote:I thought this was some good insightIn post 219, Knightmare491 wrote:Maria feels very calm tonally, is that normal for her as any alignment?
@Anyone who's played with her before
What is Knightmare's read on Maria? From what I can tell he has totally avoided giving a read on her. She was the top wagon when he made this post. Thinking about it this post feels really removed from the Maria wagon in a way that looks pretty scummy with either Maria-town or Maria-scum (if Maria-town, it reads as trying to justify jumping on later; if Maria-scum, it reads as distancing).
?? How does that make me mafia?In post 364, Dunnstral wrote:nightmare is a good candidate for mafia because the vote failed on them at deadline.
Haven't considered such a scenario, but I'd probably look at people who were either soft defending you or ignoring your wagon.In post 361, NDMath wrote:What's the most likely world if I'm town?
Are you saying I should have hammered myself?In post 383, Dunnstral wrote:Also, you don't think this guy is guilty of what you're accusing me of?
You know this is something I'd say as mafia to sound clever and let everyone know about myIn post 364, Dunnstral wrote:Also, we need to try to lynch mafia over SK because of crosskilling and because of vote parity, and lynching mafia extends the game. Knightmare is a good candidate for mafia because the vote failed on them at deadline. Speaking of which, can we talk about why/how that happened?
Are you even reading? I said he's prob maf who killed Maria.In post 411, Black Ranger wrote:So are you calling Dunnstral the vig?In post 402, Knightmare491 wrote:He was scum reading Maria too hmm, maybe they thought she's the SK?
VOTE: Dunn
Based and not!vigpilled.
Cool, so you're saying that lynching him will give no info about any other players because it could be either of those things, but now you want to lynch me anyway.In post 416, Dunnstral wrote:Now we can't tell if he wasn't lynched because everyone was afk, or because mafia didn't want to lynch one of their own, so they didn't post. Which means we pretty much have to lynch him, now.
What can I say, it's like everything I say falls on deaf ears.In post 487, NDMath wrote:Do you believe this? Or are you just trying to survive at this point?
He voted me in the above post, if that is his thought process from that start of that day, why does he wait for 3 days to vote me?In post 416, Dunnstral wrote:Now we can't tell if he wasn't lynched because everyone was afk, or because mafia didn't want to lynch one of their own, so they didn't post. Which means we pretty much have to lynch him, now.
because as town he would be taking firm stance on the info that we would get from my lynch. Not just saying we need to lynch me anyway (?)In post 497, Raya36 wrote:Why can't the part you called a slip be a thought coming from town?
Which question? thought I answered everything.In post 511, Raya36 wrote:I'll answer that when Knight answers my question first
cause you're new.In post 510, Paragon wrote:Knightmare; why are you so concerned with what I am doing rather than focus on the wagon on you? What is your insight on the voters?
Except I wasn't scummy to him yesterday, what changed today? I'm not telling that we should pre flip solve.In post 510, Paragon wrote:Knightmare again; do you think every lynch required you to have a good headspace as to where you'll be at after the lynch? What's wrong with trying to flip the scummiest player, rather than preflip-solve?
scummy ofc, otherwise wouldn't be voting thereIn post 522, Raya36 wrote:@Knight this question