Open 777: Switch (Town Wins)

Tanner · Post Post #7 (isolation #0) » Tue Apr 14, 2020 11:18 pm

gg, we lost.

Tanner · Post Post #12 (isolation #1) » Tue Apr 14, 2020 11:37 pm

Onward, comrades!

VOTE: Emperor

Tanner · Post Post #15 (isolation #2) » Tue Apr 14, 2020 11:47 pm

In post 0, TheWizard wrote:2. Mafia has nightchat only.

Scum does not have daytalk. Lovely "Townslip" there Elmo.

Tanner · Post Post #28 (isolation #3) » Wed Apr 15, 2020 1:32 am

Elmo Town.

VOTE: NDMath

Tanner · Post Post #33 (isolation #4) » Wed Apr 15, 2020 3:21 am

Do you think Solon is trying to do that?

Tanner · Post Post #35 (isolation #5) » Wed Apr 15, 2020 4:15 am

Do you want to share your reason?

Tanner · Post Post #42 (isolation #6) » Wed Apr 15, 2020 7:58 am

Raya Town.

Tanner · Post Post #52 (isolation #7) » Wed Apr 15, 2020 10:32 am

You don't.

Tanner · Post Post #55 (isolation #8) » Wed Apr 15, 2020 10:35 am

I forgot to close the window, sorry.

Do you agree Math is basically caught scum already?

Tanner · Post Post #60 (isolation #9) » Wed Apr 15, 2020 10:45 am

In post 25, Solon wrote:Solon/Elmo is likely T/S (in some order) says you, yet you proceed to place a seemingly random vote on Tanner?

There has been no explanation. Scum must be panicking.

Tanner · Post Post #63 (isolation #10) » Wed Apr 15, 2020 11:01 am

In post 62, NDMath wrote:
In post 25, Solon wrote:Solon/Elmo is likely T/S (in some order) says you, yet you proceed to place a seemingly random vote on Tanner?

Explain yourself at once!
When I assume Elmo is town, you look really bad. I have no reason to assume Elmo is town yet though.
Phrasing-wise I was struggling since stating an interaction looks T/S always has scum motivation.
I voted because I get scumread for not voting. I wasn't a fan of the emperor rvs wagon.

Why does town!Elmo -> scum!Solon, because Solon voted her? Even though you yourself have no reason to assume she's Town?
Why would stating that always have scum motivation? Why so worried about appearances?

In post 62, NDMath wrote:
In post 55, Tanner wrote:I forgot to close the window, sorry.

Do you agree Math is basically caught scum already?
Excuse me what?

I said I forgot to close the window.

Tanner · Post Post #76 (isolation #11) » Wed Apr 15, 2020 9:37 pm

In post 70, NDMath wrote:
In post 63, Tanner wrote:
In post 62, NDMath wrote:
In post 25, Solon wrote:Solon/Elmo is likely T/S (in some order) says you, yet you proceed to place a seemingly random vote on Tanner?

Explain yourself at once!
When I assume Elmo is town, you look really bad. I have no reason to assume Elmo is town yet though.
Phrasing-wise I was struggling since stating an interaction looks T/S always has scum motivation.
I voted because I get scumread for not voting. I wasn't a fan of the emperor rvs wagon.

1.
Why does town!Elmo -> scum!Solon, because Solon voted her?
2.
Even though you yourself have no reason to assume she's Town?

3.
Why would stating that always have scum motivation?
4.
Why so worried about appearances?
1. I sure hope you don't actually think that that's my reason. When I assume Elmo is town the push in 22 looks absurd and "manipulate the masses" is misrepping the situation greatly.
2. I said that based off the premise of Elmo being town, I don't understand your question here?
3. Declaring a T/S interaction as scum on two townies means you can hang either then try to get the other the next day.
4. I basically always am. I get mishung quite a bit and am still trying to fix that.

1. Not really, no.
2. I guess my issue is that you can see Elmo being Town and Solon being scum doing a shitpush, or that you can see Solon being Town and pushing scum!Elmo. But in the second scenario, Solon, doesn't *know* Elmo's alignment, so I don't get why you don't consider a T/T situation.
3. Delacring it

as scum

, yes. Are you scum?
4. Ok.

Tanner · Post Post #93 (isolation #12) » Thu Apr 16, 2020 1:15 pm

In post 90, Emperor flippyNips wrote:
In post 59, Emperor flippyNips wrote:@tanner–i lied finished page 2, tell me why they're caught scum
pretty sure i'm still waiting on this

I answered that question full two and a half minutes after you posted it.

Tanner · Post Post #108 (isolation #13) » Fri Apr 17, 2020 4:08 am

In post 96, Emperor flippyNips wrote:@tanner–You answered nothing

An answer to 59 is in 60. If you don't see what I'm doing, that's none of my fault.

Tanner · Post Post #109 (isolation #14) » Fri Apr 17, 2020 4:14 am

I think Elmo, Solon, and Knightmare are Town. It puzzles me a bit that Raya seemed to take Solon's early posting more serious than it was, but I like her other content, so Town too.

Emperor strikes me as lazy town (haha), but more lazy than Town. Dunn and alban showed smidges of towniness, but I need to see more.

0verki11, Looker, and Maria are >rand scum, but again I need to see more.

Nothing Math's posted (or hasn't posted) made me change my mind about them.

Tanner · Post Post #112 (isolation #15) » Fri Apr 17, 2020 4:22 am

Looker, are your votes random?

Tanner · Post Post #117 (isolation #16) » Fri Apr 17, 2020 6:35 am

In post 70, NDMath wrote:
Tanner wrote:
In post 62, NDMath wrote:
In post 55, Tanner wrote:I forgot to close the window, sorry.

Do you agree Math is basically caught scum already?
Excuse me what?
I said I forgot to close the window.
Ah. I see.

@Math, when you answer the other questions, could you elaborate on this? What did "I see" mean here?

Tanner · Post Post #122 (isolation #17) » Fri Apr 17, 2020 7:25 am

NDMath, I'm not sure what you wanted from me there? Am I being uncooperative? I'm still talking to you and I responded in 76.

Tanner · Post Post #153 (isolation #18) » Sun Apr 19, 2020 8:39 am

Ugh, I'm here. Did anything at all happen while I was gone?

Tanner · Post Post #171 (isolation #19) » Mon Apr 20, 2020 8:48 am

Math, why would you ignore me...

I'm still in favour of voting Math, but someone please try to sell me on anything.

Tanner · Post Post #196 (isolation #20) » Tue Apr 21, 2020 9:30 am

Someone asked my why I thought Elmo Town, and just their posts seemed a bit weird/over the top in a way I wouldn't expect from scum in a game where they already have a massive advantage? They're pushing for activity when it definitely wouldn't be necessary for scum. And I don't remember seeing any of their takes and thinking it was overly scummy, so eh.

Tanner · Post Post #199 (isolation #21) » Tue Apr 21, 2020 1:04 pm

In post 197, Klick wrote:The immediate questioning of it by Solon/particularly Tanner reads a bit like scum who don't want town getting easy towncred.

You sure? In my next post I had Elmo as Town.

In post 197, Klick wrote:@Tanner: Could you explain your Knightmare townread if you haven't already?

I remember thinking he seemed solvy enough and liking his takes/tests, and have since more or less ignored him.

I like Klick's catchup, other than maybe the Math read. To be fair I have been not as much attention to this game as I maybe should have.

VOTE: Maria

Tanner · Post Post #217 (isolation #22) » Wed Apr 22, 2020 12:37 am

Oh look, as soon as there's votes on Maria, suddenly my posts are bad. Sure.

In post 211, Looker wrote:
In post 196, Tanner wrote:Someone asked my why I thought Elmo Town, and just their posts seemed a bit weird/over the top in a way I wouldn't expect from scum in a game where they already have a massive advantage? They're pushing for activity when it definitely wouldn't be necessary for scum.
That's not an observation I really trust. What would be the penalty for town taking an active role in this gamestate? Do you disagree with Raya's initial assertion that scum would take a leading role? I think you're feeling that town is more disadvantaged than it really is. Saying we lost from the onset was a joke. We're still going to win.

What do you mean about a penalty? I disagree more than not, yeah. In my experience scum doesn't do things if they don't *have* to do them. And with that big of a leap at the start, Town was gonna be low motivation.

I've heard of one previous run of this setup where two Townies died Night 0. Town lynched scum back-to-back 3 Days. Then mislynched single time and lost. And we're arguably worse off because both the Cop and Doc are dead. So.