Open 800 - Donner Party | Game Over

[JohnnyFarrar]

VOTE: pob long it is a good morning

[JohnnyFarrar]

If I'm your favorite then sheep me silly

[JohnnyFarrar]

Scumreading CHAOS TRIFORCE for COWARDICE

[JohnnyFarrar]

Hi guys. First game here.

VOTE: DoubtingThomas

Sup dude!

Have you played before? Do you have any questions before I forget you're a newbie and just treat you like a peer?

[JohnnyFarrar]

And the Noraa part is 8/10 of it i believe

[JohnnyFarrar]

Yah sorry it's just.. I've never played a 10 day phase game before so, I needed to confirm what my eyes saw.

wait so what is ur prfpc exactly?

-curiousbearbear

Can't tell if serious

[JohnnyFarrar]

And he didn't bite

[JohnnyFarrar]

Snoooooooore

@guillotine where you played before did you scumread people who posted four pages of nothing?

[JohnnyFarrar]

I was also thinking plus was town there

[JohnnyFarrar]

Hi guys. First game here.

VOTE: DoubtingThomas

Sup dude!

@guil also do you know Tommy?

[JohnnyFarrar]

Guys I'm trying to read the medieval execution device don't tell them how ridiculously town I am it'll scare them off

[JohnnyFarrar]

I'm a fan of superbowl's easy going style and throwing out gut reads, I think the looseness is pretty towny.

-tabletop

Didn't think about this but I like it

[JohnnyFarrar]

also probably because this site's meta for sod1 sucks? lol

Wait tell me the better way

[JohnnyFarrar]

This is why I said I was throwing the newbie tells in the garbage

[JohnnyFarrar]

Lord

[JohnnyFarrar]

Towns

Yes hey that's me

note the tone in superbowl9 and chaos triforce slot.

Sarcastic, detached. Maybe a little snide?

Initially, I thought superbowl9 could have been maybe a dedicated mafiascum player who was annoyed at me for shittalking their site. that's understandable. but I think he's simply making unrealistic pushes on me.

Tell me more? I'm not seeing too much pushing at all, but i'm skimming from work.

I also think it's very scummy for superbowl9 and chaos triforce to have a very similar tone throughout this page and partially in the last page.

You mean Sarcastic, detached, and maybe a little snide?

This is not an angered townie nor a dedicated townie who believes in his push. Their treatment of me on this page - if you look at the tone of his post - is playful.

That would jump in the face of your "defensive of the site" theory, but I mean d1 is low stakes and often playful. I'm really interested in wherever you play because if you've got better d1's I'm excited. Can you maybe quote a place where you think he looks disingenuous?

probably a little bit of superiority mindset thinking that I am inferior or whatever.

Oh there's defo some haught in there

Thinking my pushes are 'not the right reason' but I don't think a town player here who (could have been) initially annoyed at my posts shitting his site will be making banters and jokes like he's done in this game.

So I don't fully understand this part. You're saying his defensiveness at your shit talk of the site and that he wouldn't be playful with you because spite?

[JohnnyFarrar]

I like this game. It's got a real sharks v jets vibe

[JohnnyFarrar]

Broke my headcannon of you just being actual Taylor swift there with your sports

[JohnnyFarrar]

TWBTAW

What does this mean

[JohnnyFarrar]

Not interested in voting Gamma at this juncture.

[JohnnyFarrar]

He's my faaaaaaav also sure

VOTE: superB

[JohnnyFarrar]

Lolnora

[JohnnyFarrar]

Why tho

[JohnnyFarrar]

Thomas told me so

[JohnnyFarrar]

So y'all don't buy into Tommie's assertion that super B is being disingenuous?

[JohnnyFarrar]

Wait is it possible that you just don't think he's funny?

Coasting is life

[JohnnyFarrar]

*dad voice*

Take a step back you two. Bickering doesn't help.

[JohnnyFarrar]

Yeah the spot Ari and I played before this played wildly differently (it was terrible actually)

[JohnnyFarrar]

Is trash scum?

[JohnnyFarrar]

But like is it more likely to have a red role PM

[JohnnyFarrar]

You asked why we're not pushing. I'm asking why WOULD we be pushing

[JohnnyFarrar]

Sounds like you flip coins a lot where you're from

[JohnnyFarrar]

Sounds like you flip coins a lot where you're from

It's not really flipping a coin when the player does not do what he is supposed to do, play the game.

It's been three days and all he's done is color commentating the game and being terrible at it.

He could be scum for all i know waiting for the night to kill the contributing players to silence the room and have an easier game.

A challenge: find the instances of your actually following through with this particular policy elimination and tell me the ratio of town v scum on them. I know how I bet that would go.

If you pushed this further I would not be on board. Bad does not equal evil. Shit play is not a scum tell, and limming based on solely that is a coin flip with worse odds.

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plusjoyed is giving town reads on his friends like government is giving out food stamps to the poor, wtf?

Plus is generally extremely hard to read. I have never ever not SRed him in a game before. Like thats how scummy I perceive him as and its so scummy that I can never stop myself. My conclusion is plus is scummy af. Just hope there is a vig in the game that vigs him. If there isn't, then you have to concentrate and make things right your own way :/

-nornor

anyone know what is odd about this post

Is it that calling for the death of a player regardless of alignment kind of sucks?

Is it that Noraa prolly isn't the vig because the vig usually isn't like "gosh I hope a vig kills this person if they exist"

Is it that players that don't know the setup are generally town, doubly so in a three headed hydra because people on teams usually talk setup at some point?

Why are you being coy?

[JohnnyFarrar]

noraa how should we be reading johnny and why?

I dont know how to read Johnny atm. Im in the process of figuring it out.

-nornor

Like in this game or just in general? because FROPPY WON"T TELL ME MY SCUMTELLS AND I WANNA KNOW THEM

[JohnnyFarrar]

Gamma reads different in this game than he did in our two previous games together. But also both of those games were WEIRD AS FUCK so not willing to act on that.

[JohnnyFarrar]

Disagreed. You are starting to bother me because you keep talking about flipping a coin as if my reasons are not valid to scum read him. I hosts games Johnny, I've seen several kinds of scum and chkflip flips the profile of one of those kinds!Our chances of finding scum on Day 1 are the same regardless of the method. Bad does not NECESSARILY equals to evil but it can very well be, shit play does not NECESSARILY scum tell but it could, but you are missing the whole point or you are deliberately playing dumb because lack of play is one of the most basic scum tells!!! I'm not talking going-on-vacation or taking-care-of-the-family-first lack of play!! I'm talking about his lack of real play, he's got 13 posts and he could have made thirteen great posts! But he chose to post 13 shit posts and fock off.That player is not playing the game! He is disinterestedly coasting it!! Just like an old tired scum rand with no motivation to play the game with "outsiders" (as Taylor put it) would. It seems to me that you are willing to cut him some slack because he is a legacy player here, as in legacy players are not supposed to get yeeted on D1 if they play, well, like scum.

I don't agree. But I'll drop it until you get me that hard data (you don't really have to I don't care that much).

I don't give a shit he's legacy btw. My start date's not all that later than his.

ORYou and him are teammates and you are covering up for your "LHF" scum mate.

ah fuck you caught me. (I'm actually mad jealous of scum this game, I bet they're having a blast)

By the way! Your posts have offered no substance so far! Let's change that. Where are your reads???

Uhhhh you and superb are hard to sort
I think chaos and tommie are town
I think tayl0 and gamma are scum

[JohnnyFarrar]

Gamma reads different in this game than he did in our two previous games together. But also both of those games were WEIRD AS FUCK so not willing to act on that.

[JohnnyFarrar]

Gamma reads different in this game than he did in our two previous games together. But also both of those games were WEIRD AS FUCK so not willing to act on that.

If the games already ended, can you link me to them please?

here and herer

[JohnnyFarrar]

@guillo I see the sensitive info thing and I'll explain post game

[JohnnyFarrar]

WOAH why the Arizona town read?

[JohnnyFarrar]

backs off like limp dick johnny when I push back

I'm sorry????

[JohnnyFarrar]

Tommy let's talk actual scumreads. I don't PL.

[JohnnyFarrar]

So scum sB attacked you attempting for a miselim, you pushed back and he backed off? And you think that was scum superB being afraid of your reaction?

I don't think he ever backed off

[JohnnyFarrar]

So like, that timing does suck Tommy but I have an alternative theory: the personality clash. He pushed you, you came and annoyed him and he wanted to leave. I think that's just as likely as your theory, which is why he's not the slam dunk you think he is.

@guillo point out the Ari town post?

[JohnnyFarrar]

Guys do you think guil is actually reading betrayal

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I'm on board for Gamma guillo but where did ari slip into null? And cat into town?

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Gamma reads different in this game than he did in our two previous games together. But also both of those games were WEIRD AS FUCK so not willing to act on that.

[JohnnyFarrar]

Oh duh not Gamma today

[JohnnyFarrar]

I'm actually all the way off Gamma. Try again y'all

[JohnnyFarrar]

Spicy take! VOTE: Tayl0

[JohnnyFarrar]

Gamma reads different in this game than he did in our two previous games together. But also both of those games were WEIRD AS FUCK so not willing to act on that.

You've expressed he's "different", but in what way, exactly? You named him as a scum read in 555 but keep saying you're not willing to act on that? Do you have thoughts on anything he's posted since then? This whole read from you is super weak.

Doesn't matter, not limming Gamma today. Gut.

[JohnnyFarrar]

Oh hi bm

[JohnnyFarrar]

Lol just you wait BM.

[JohnnyFarrar]

Oh hi bm

hi Johnny

are you scum?

if not, who is scum?

did i claim yet?

if so, what?

Hey, naw, prolly Taylor she's like present and actively keeping up, and no lol not this time

[JohnnyFarrar]

I am here

[JohnnyFarrar]

This seems wrong to me? She hasnt been present at all and has a reason for keeping up but lurking (toxicity), you could say you don’t buy it but saying she’s actively here seems weird

I guess active compared to dung beetle, my most recent game with them, is a better measure

[JohnnyFarrar]

-snip-
Thank you

This is the first time one of the offsite wonder twins interacted with the other meaningfully. I didn't realize it hadn't happened until it did.

[JohnnyFarrar]

Chaos is town.

Excited to see this progress

[JohnnyFarrar]

ah, a townslip?

Legit happened a second time. Chaos is town.

[JohnnyFarrar]

Not really easy to explain. My feeling is, may be loud, annoying, distracting, but that doesn't necessarily add up to scummy, even if his case is bad I don't think it's a rabbit hole scum goes down. I also agree with battle mage in that I don't expect scum to pursue a loud, high-impact approach to the game on day 1 in this setup.

I missed that battle mage said that. I mean what is your take on him then pushing that I am scum despite me being like almost an upgrade of guillo if he's town read him for that?

i feel the difference between you and Guillo is that he has more or less attacked everyone indiscriminately, whereas you have been very focussed on a couple of slots, and have eagerly taken opportunities to kiss up to others (others basically being Gamma).

I'm up to this and wondering why Tommie is even alive still

[JohnnyFarrar]

johnny farrar and taylor too, they are too comfortable letting us beat each other.

Bruh i was at work. Also I've been trying to keep peace

[JohnnyFarrar]

i just dont see how not knowing theres a vig would indicate someone is town. thats kinda a prerequisite for something being a townslip

Because scum are more likely to be worried about the vig? And say so in a scum pt. Or a Hydra chat. So even if noraa would miss it, would all her partners miss it? Naw.

[JohnnyFarrar]

Yeh. VOTE: Tommie

[JohnnyFarrar]

Gamma Ari is still vla yeah? What's the point here?

[JohnnyFarrar]

The vibe being "different from this one game"

[JohnnyFarrar]

Also did you read betrayal

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Hey ari

[JohnnyFarrar]

Have I actually missed anything?

Lol yeah this mostly. It got tense and insulty for a minute.

SuperB wants to policy Tommie or guil or both because they're used to different ways of play (and to be fair they are a little too quick to argue ANYTHING). This is after starting a scumread on Gamma.

Gamma, it's weird, but I read the MS rulebook, and it said he is off limits today.

Tommie bites the head off the head of anyone looking at him sideways, which is everyone, so everyone's scum to him.

Guil is a certified clever boy¿ with gambits

[JohnnyFarrar]

It wasn’t until you posted that read list that I realized Tay feels super subdued rn

Which is a towntell for her

[JohnnyFarrar]

I scumread Tommie

There

[JohnnyFarrar]

It wasn’t until you posted that read list that I realized Tay feels super subdued rn

Which is a towntell for her

Is it? Idk I kinda expect the opposite based on experience.

In dung beetle she straight asked people to pressure her more just because she couldn't get into it as town

[JohnnyFarrar]

Gamma?

[JohnnyFarrar]

Also why's it scaring you?

(Typed and deleted non game related stuff, y'all are tricky)

[JohnnyFarrar]

Hey hey its cool superbase just sit back and watch Gamma. You'll sort him. There's some arcane rule in the MS site rules, i just looked this up, that says Gamma lives today. Weird, I know, but gives you plenty of time to figure him out

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erbow

Don't you ever call me chucklip, erbow.

Legit had to look at the playerlist to figure out who this was

[JohnnyFarrar]

Man we're all still talking huh?

[JohnnyFarrar]

Hi pob

[JohnnyFarrar]

Not feeling myself these last couple days and THIS day is getting incredibly long in the tooth.

Pob is a silly place to go

Not really interested in superbase flip today

Have to read up on what Taylor is talking about vis a vis guil scum

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Lol poor BM

[JohnnyFarrar]

So why weren't there 3 kills?

[JohnnyFarrar]

Someone feed me the one sentence case on chaos

[JohnnyFarrar]

I'm here and have the day off tomorrow! Who wants to mind meld? Or just chat?

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is that a real question, Johnny

Probably. My effort this game is feeling low.

Did just miss why Gamma is putting weight to chk tho

[JohnnyFarrar]

These are some yikes posts

What do yikes posts mean?

Oooooohhh you’re in for a hard fall Noraa.

Y'all talk about guil being obvious and telegraphing shit but miss Gamma beating us over the head with shit like this???? Why you think I said he was off limits yesterday?

Welcome drippy

woooooooooooooooooooo yes i was right baby

Your non-questioning of his claim on its face bothers me. Like legit.

I was always claiming after eating a scum. Removes me as a suspect for dietician, and let’s Roleblocker know that 1) they shouldn’t block me and 2) blocking scum = blocking a kill, and vice versa
I probably won’t be acting at night for now to give Roleblocker a better chance to catch scum/clear town

You're eating tonight mister. Guil was probably a PR, which means there's a chance we just lost RB.

Him repeatedly insisting he wasn't going to b eliminated = nooby softclaim.

That makes sense.

But I ALSO spoke like that. So Noraa can’t really believe that and push me at the same time.

Truth here

Yeah, so I read the last 2 pages now and like, I think I have a tell on Noraa actually and I think they are definitely scumposting here.

What's the VC at? I think this is definitely the Elim today but I don't want to end things prematurely.

Interested in this


Aaaaaand a vt claim. I'm caught up. Fine with a Triforce lim (sorry noraa <3)

My offer to mind meld is still on the table with anyone present.

I'll

hammer

in 24 hours

[JohnnyFarrar]

Here lemme do it

VOTE: Chaos

[JohnnyFarrar]

Woo!

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I uh, I was worried about BM scum