Open 799 Chosen Mafia (Game Over)

[iamausername]

interested to get takes on Benhalkum's post while we wait for him to return?

think it was also a fine dumbtell, seems like he thought the question you were asking was "who would you vote, if you were scum?", suggesting he had even less of an idea of the mechanics of the game than you did. if every town player could just go ahead and inadvertently reveal that they have no idea what is going on, this game will be very easy.

in answer to the original question (or, not the original one, but that one that actually applies to the setup), i don't know most of the playerlist at all, so if my partner had a strong preference, i would have deferred to them. if i was making the choice myself, though, i'd probably pick Battle Mage. he's the player i'm most familiar with here, and i don't know that it would necessarily be difficult to get him executed, as such, but i do know it would be kind of a hassle.

VOTE: ItalianoVD (E-2)

[iamausername]

BM and DkKoba obvtown for the E-1 and the hammer, ben is also town for reasons stated previously.

midwaybear seemed pretty relaxed about Italiano being E-1, joking around about claims and suchlike, and 127 feels like a town reaction to Italiano's twilight posting.

between the other two, Norwee seems like the obvious scum from the pre-emptive outrage about lolhammering in 72 and 82, but gut says Koba was totally correct in 135, Outworld's reaction to the hammer seems fake.

Umlaut kill is weird as hell, also. even accounting for two chosen townies being unkillable, there are minimum two non-chosen townies on wagon, so why kill off wagon? my suspicion is that at least one of Norwee and midway is Chosen, maybe even both, and minimizing the available off-wagon targets makes it more likely for one of them to be executed.

VOTE: OutworldER

[iamausername]

could you explain to me the logic behind "they opposed the lolhammer so they are scummy", because that really doesn't follow for me. Especially since Umlaut was also dismissive of the hammer.

after having determined that all of BM, Koba, ben and midway are town, narrowing my pool down to two, it would seem to make some kind of objective sense that the person speaking out against hammering scum is more likely to be the other scum than the person who voted for scum. this is why i singled out Norwee as the 'obvious' choice. note that i didn't actually vote for him.

TBone

- if it ends up 1 chosen v 1 mafia, does town win?

- Chosen Townies are immune to nightkills and cannot be endgamed

if both are still alive.

assuming this means no, otherwise there would be no need for this clause in this sentence.

Does Iamusername always post very few but highly condensed posts as town? I just noticed his ISO only has like 2 posts but they are very information heavy.

i do tend to sit near the bottom of the post count in most of my games, yes.

Username -

Outworld or maybe Norweg/Midway

(although one might be chosen?), and has obvtowned

me and dkkoba. Likes Ben too.

i don't know why you have midway coloured red here. i do not think he is scum at all.

[iamausername]

UNVOTE: Outworld

removing hammer temptations. his reaction here feels somewhat town, and in any case, i'd prefer that we get some sort of input from ben before ending the day.

[iamausername]

I mean, I don't see anything that indicates that I am or am not Chosen so I have no idea if I'm actually ok with being elimm'd. I kinda want to like, keep playing, man.

specifically, this part doesn't feel like something scum would say here, since it invites people who aren't necessarily sold on him as scum to consider going "eh, this guy probably isn't Chosen, he'll do" and hammering.

[iamausername]

Yeah, I'm not sure how you can quote someone and then explain how that quote makes them less likely to be Chosen?

that's not what i'm saying at all? i'm explaining why that post makes him less likely to be

scum

.

[iamausername]

at this point, i have reasons to think everybody is town, and i have no idea which one i'm wrong about. think BM probably had the right idea in 206 (in terms of general approach, not necessarily the specific plan), though it would have been better to wait for reads from ben before revealing it. but then i doubt Ben even read that post, so maybe it doesn't matter.

[iamausername]

I've never seen town straight up ignore the fact that they are at L-1

have you seen scum

before this game, I mean

[iamausername]

You honestly think that town just ignores that they are at L-1?

i'm doing it right now!

[iamausername]

umlaut was killed bc he is not chosen and was immediate limbait

this feels like the best answer anyone has come up with to the question of "why Umlaut"

scum actually want to shoot at limbait townies in this game, because if they leave them alive, it's harder to get a Chosen townie executed

i think at this point we just need to flip someone, anyone, and we'll have more to work with when we know more of who is/isn't chosen. so i guess

VOTE: benhalkum

will do. i think that's hammer.

[iamausername]

sure.

i think it might be BM at this point. if not, i was right in the first place and it's Outworld. Koba and Norwee are town for sure.

[iamausername]

the thing that concerns me is that BM made a plan to execute Outworld if Ben flipped Chosen, then immediately hammered me today when given the opportunity

makes that plan feel more like the old lining up miselims

[iamausername]

otoh, i think it was weird that Outworld decided that i was town yesterday. his basis for putting me and ben as the PoE made sense, but it seems odd that i was voting him for what he thought was bad logic and he thought that looked like i was 'scumhunting genuinely'.

[iamausername]

You and BM are most likely town. The scenarios in which you two are scum are incredibly far-fetched.

We can solve either of you if Username flips Chosen.

If Username flips scum then we obviously win.

Username flipping regular town means we can PoE the Chosen tommorow and win off of that.

it would be incredibly hard for town to lose here.

bizarre confidence. Outworld discounting the very real possibility that he gets executed after i flip town feels like it could be a towntell. like surely scum would have that on their mind, but it doesn't even seem to occur to him here.

[iamausername]

TBone

- if it ends up 1 chosen v 1 mafia, does town win?

did we ever get this officially confirmed

think it's going to be pretty important now

[iamausername]

i mean you insisted on an execution of a Chosen townie yesterday then speedhammered town today

i don't know why you think you wouldn't be suspicious at this point

[iamausername]

the thing that concerns me is that BM made a plan to execute Outworld if Ben flipped Chosen, then immediately hammered me today when given the opportunity

makes that plan feel more like the old lining up miselims

nah man, i just forgot the plan. you shoulda reminded me.

well, you know, maybe i would have done but you hammered me before i had the chance, pal

this game was silly

well played, Koba