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I think you're cleared from the lack of hammers

I think mo is condemned

so it's really just between bingle and NM for me atp

I guess the only other thing is that it *might* still be NM and bingle where N_M (who is very canny) perceived my shifting stance on mo and decided to vote there to capitalise on that before my opinion had become locked in

but that seems unlikely given mo's insistence on not voting conf!scum to him

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thank god im finally having my hand held through these games like it's baby's first forum maf this is the experience i need in life

*pats head

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you being cleared also makes the start of this day interesting: scum didn't come in intending to bus, because everyone had you in their solve, so they wanted a misvote and qh win

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so the question remains: did NM perceive the winds of change shifting around his partner and decide to get out ahead? or is it bingle?

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bingle I'm looking forward to your thoughts on the team given that ydrasse is as good as cleared here

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namely: who are you swapping out for her between me and NM lol

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I want to solve while I'm still alive

I think there's reasonable odds that the remaining scum kills you but I also think there's a good chance they kill me

therefore I'd like to be as close to sure on the team as I can be to issue as strong a case for you to follow on whoever's left tomorrow in the event that I die

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like it's worth noting that I'm cleared in all cases other than being scum with mo and I uh


think that it's abundantly clear from how he's been playing around me that we're not paired

also from my general play and how hard I'm trying to solve this game instead of just force anyone through

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oh, I don't want day to end from self-hammer before I get the chance to finish reading through the rest of the game and again, to be as confident as possible in my solve

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ydrasse, do you think I'm scum with mo? that's basically the only really important question you need to ask urself rn

because if not, then I'm as cleared to you as you are to me, and we can mason this shit out

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I will simultaneously laugh and cry if it's any of the teams I'm clearing and you've just been wusses about doing the quick hammer lmao

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okay cool, so we're now masons, congratulations on the promotion

suck it lukewarm and VFP we're gonna show you how it's done

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god this feels like an absolute weight off my chest just knowing there's someone I can bounce ideas and shit off and know they're not trying to manipulate me lol

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it's because this game is now a chill vibe instead of an achingly stressful one

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Well, town probably loses now. Stupid randing scum in SH.

eh?

I just randed scum against you in SH, and that's gonna make you want to hero win against me despite that I'm crazy town.

I actually haven't been paying attention here. can someone give me a tldr?

I bear u no illwill over that lol and I'm a lil surprised you think I would

ydrasse is clear and so we're now operating as masons

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stop trying to pocket me bingle goddamnit

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there wasn't paranoia before

or well, there was, but not SH related

now there is MORE lol

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me three

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we're just a happy
pock-et-ing fam-i-lyyyyyy

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Bingle just beat me in a marathon game of secret hitler

and hmmmm

very spicy

so it's either bingle + NM

or I need to choose in those two names

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not hammering

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I guess the only other thing is that it *might* still be NM and bingle where N_M (who is very canny) perceived my shifting stance on mo and decided to vote there to capitalise on that before my opinion had become locked in

but that seems unlikely given mo's insistence on not voting conf!scum to him

Do you really think I pay this kind of attention?

I think that when you try you're a lot better than you like to let on

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you two are starting to make me feel like mo is town who had the bizzarest reaction of all time and that you're now both just trolling me

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I feel like I'm pretty obviously not S/S with mo, tbh.

I feel like I'm pretty obviously not S/S with mo, tbh.

Who are you S/S with?

like

if there's any scum team I can dream up who would be this brazen

it's probably you two

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ydrasse, bingle and N_M are bullying me

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Still avoiding having to commit on a decision of mo!scum or NM&bingle!scum

Ydrasse, you around later at all? Wanna work through this not on my own

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That’s kind of bizarre to say bingle

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prod received, I'll make a decision here later today

sorry for kinda leaving things in limbo, I've just been busy and this is hard but also kind of boring

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my mum would fuckin' nut u m8 and go right back to her podcasts

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if it's mo, why does it feel so much like it's bingle and NM?

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ahhhhhhhhh

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I think maybe I want ydra to vote for N_M and then I can choose who to hammer in the morning

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wait mena i have a question, from your pov, do you think there is anyway it could be y and bingle/nm?

No lol

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Oh bingle why are you so scummy

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You look so partnered with NM lmao

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I was the only one who actually cased him iirc.

Not true, at least one other did (I think lukewarm)

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Eli5 while I’m here

Whats mo’s narrative and why is it wrong?

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Ugh I really meant to reread this weekend and then just

It’s been busy

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Fucking sigh

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Mena never considered you and mo.

I actually did realise this after the fact but didn’t mention for a couple of reasons

(1) the lack of anyone I could trust between the four of you was driving me insane and ydra’s reaction felt authentically happy... which I guess it was but for the wrong reason

(2) I figured that if it was ydra/mo then pretending to believe she was conf would get me brought to F3 instead of killed

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Gypyx repping out was really annoying because that made the slot about a million times harder for me to read

Mo continuing to try after being essentially conf!scum with me leaning scum on him was giving me doubts

But mainly I was really paranoid about NM/Bingle

NM I maintain did nothing really AI this game as per usual

And bingle felt like he was way too confident on NM being town, and then also too confident in me being town before I think that was obvious

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Mena, if I'm scum with N_M, why do I draw attention to the implications of Y going V/LA past the deadline? I could maybe see an argument there if I was partnered with Mo, looking for the towncred tomorrow. Why do I undermine my position in the 1v1 by not explicitly town reading you and Y and just throwing N_M under the bus when it probably just wins me the game with a Mo lim tomorrow?

But the most frustrating thing is that I saw this before I went to bed and it swung me back towards voting mo this morning

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This is probably my own fault for actually reading anyone’s posts today

Should have stuck to my rule about lylo and reread the previous days of the game and then voted based on that

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This game feels sort of like a case lesson in why ability to look town is often much greater utility than having good reads

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This game feels sort of like a case lesson in why ability to look town is often much greater utility than having good reads

I think this was winnable and you have a bias towards dismissing me or wanting me to be scum.

Nonetheless, congrats and gg scum and thanks mod for hosting

I don't disagree that it was winnable, and I know that I bear the vast brunt of the responsibility for this loss, but it was very hard from my PoV. I don't think I have a bias towards dismissing you, but I do think that you're consistent enough between your scumgame and your towngame that expecting me to know the difference between you bussing someone and you having good reads is somewhat unreasonable.

the setup seemed cool even if i didn’t get to use any of it ;;

when do we get pts?

mod PT will come in a few hours, mafia and dead PT will be released in 24 hours to allow for redactions to be made

wait, even dead pt we have to wait for redactions?

This game feels sort of like a case lesson in why ability to look town is often much greater utility than having good reads

I disagree very much that I didn’t look town Mena. As evidenced by the literally every other player townreading me.

Maybe I'm being unfair then, but there were several specific issues which I think I already laid out, but basically -- your read on me D1, your disappearance after pressing for the scumflip on D1, the fact that you felt to me far too confident on both me and on NM, the fact that you hadn't been killed, the fact you and NM felt very in sync on final day which reminded me very strongly of this game where I ruled out the scumteam precisely because they were weirdly in sync and I thought that they wouldn't be so obvious (+ that if it was them then with their already being in sync they'd just push someone instead of waiting) -- that prevented me from getting to a point where I could trust in that read.

Also mo just felt TSTBS quite a lot which was a mistake, given hindsight. Should've just followed the RC policy lim rule there.

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i’d be interested to hear your thoughts on the setup in general.

more or less balanced but maybe a little too swingy in it's current iteration. maybe just make the lovers masons or neighbours or something, this going to mountainous like that with a de facto useless third PR shot the difficulty up considerably. having had one of them for an extra night would maybe have helped

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indeed, thanks for modding, ggwp scum & fellow town