White flag #824 game over

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

I'm gonna play this game old school style and only post 25 times total throughout the entire game to show you youngins how we used to do things in the old days.

Prepare for wallposts like you've never even seen before.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

Here comes the promised wall post.

It includes some pretty sweet stuff:

Spoiler: Colored ReadsList

Town As Fuck: GuiltyLion, Not Mafia, Gamma Emerald

Still Pretty Town: Dwlee, Infinity, GoatDude, Flea, Klick, Bugspray

Do Something Useful Already: Murdercat

Burn Baby Burn! Disco Inferno: Datisi

Should already be dead: Imploscum

Do not click on below if you are sensitive to me mercilessly flaming you (Love You Gamma)

Spoiler: Post by Post Analysis

Spoiler: TLDR Summary

Yeet Implo today, yeet Datisi tommorrow game over let's go

VOTE: Implosion

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

I literally carried you in that Coalition game to the easiest win of your life so you should just sheep me.

yes I'm burning a post to talk shit but this game is basically over so I'll probably only have like 10 posts total this entire game.

Also lets gooooooooo

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

I didn't call you scum in coalition.

I said you were unreadable because your takes were lol bad and they were lol bad cuz the people you were townreading were scumbaggos who I didn't trust.

its not my fault you had bad reads and couldn't make it into my trusted top 4.

also you're welcome for the carry.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

I don't see why I have to "Read" you in coalition when the win condition is "find 4 townies to chill with and just win" and I already had my four lol. I already told you in that game I'm not going for perfection, I'm going for a win.

also

I can't read angry AtE

someone who has experience with implo tell me if this is out of his scum range and I'll adjust accordingly.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

did I troll implo into towntelling?

fuck im awesome

UNVOTE: implosion

carry on good citizens and hunt down evil-doers.

I heard murdercat is hiding in the forest somewhere being a baddie bad so maybe we yeet him instead.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

sup homies.

I'd do another long ass wall post but most ya'all didn't read my last wallpost so I'm gonna keep this short and simple.

MurderCat's "Iso"


VOTE: MurderCat


Dude's choking.

I don't believe Mr. Paragon can't come up with a single thought in an entire week.

Plus he chokes as scum all the time.

Adding a vote here because votecounter is upset at this one for whatever reason:~koba

VOTE: MURDERCAT

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

@GuiltyLion

The reason I am posting elsewhere but not in this game is laid out in my first post. I have decided to self-impose the challenge restriction of only posting 25 times total to win this game. Maybe it'll take 50 I dunno.

I'd update my readslist with stuff thats happened but I am a bit tipsy so that will have to wait.

I am underwhelmed by Murdercat's re-entry into the thread.

Specifically the weakness involved in just randomly throwing townreads out there with no real scumread or any intention of getting one.

I would expect someone who won Paragon of Mafia Hunters to be able to at least come up with like 1 scumread or scumlean or look like he's trying to find a baddie.

But like cmon this is pretty weaksauce.

Re-iterate willingness to yeet MC unless I see something dramatically change.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

murdercat is probly mafia

he sounds like he didnt read my post by post analysis at all.

also im kinda surprised people who have seen him play in to tell the truth: viewtopic.php?f=83&t=87111

don't find him suspicious for basically hiding from the thread for an entire weak and then coming back to just throw townreads everywhere and send some weak omgus crap at me.

I'd think town murdercat would find my suspicion of him completely reasonable.

I don't really have a good read on bugspray because they are barely playing this game, I put them in the townlean section at the beginning for some reason that I'm too lazy to scroll back to find.

hopefully they flip red cuz like it looks like they will probly just die here .

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

ok then you should know Datisi was an associative read off Implo!scum and not standalone so when I thought implo was town from him flipping out at me that basically threw the datisi associative read in the toilet so how the f you going to scumread me for my datisi read there?

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

by that point your entire ISO in the game was basically nada

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

Because by that point I had already determined both implo and datisi were town and you should have too

like is nobody going to call this out?

Murdercat is scumreading me for not having implo at "town" when I dropped my readslist at 156

instead of townreading him off his interaction with me at 174 approximately 30 minutes later.



DOES THAT SOUND LIKE A REAL READ TO ANYONE HERE?!?!?!?


CAN ANYONE WITH A STRAIGHT FACE TELL ME THAT MURDERCAT!TOWN HAS THAT ACTUAL THOUGHT IN HIS HEAD???

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

i dont even understand this bugspray wagon

what has bugspray even done in this game

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

Nothing, that's the problem

you know bugspray's meta as town is to afk quit right?

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

ok explain to me why it's scummy for me to have someone at scum-read and then change my mind after interacting with them to flip it to a townread 30 minutes later go.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

i will say that that is y-2 with a n_m in game, so chill with the votes for now.

murdercat definitely feels more solvey to me than he did in tttt. whether he's capable of scumplay like this i don't know, but i have other things that i wanna sort out right now. mainly bugspray.

well yea after getting called out for being completely absent from the thread he comes back and his scumread is an omgus on the person scumreading him for disappearing from the thread?

when he knows that he disappears from threads as scum and he's literally played with me in games where scum!him disappears from threads so why is he even surprised that town!me is scumreading him for disappearing from the thread?

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

Nothing, that's the problem

you know bugspray's meta as town is to afk quit right?

You modded a game where they were my only townread to the point I faked a confirmation on them, and they were the only one that didn't think they were evil. And... They didn't play afk like they are now.

ok ironically that game they were actually scum traitor that thought they were a town neighbor.

also I have more history with bugs where they just straight up disappear as town.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

ok explain to me why it's scummy for me to have someone at scum-read and then change my mind after interacting with them to flip it to a townread 30 minutes later go.

did i say i agreed with the logic?

I imagine it would have to somehow make sense for him to think it.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

and @dwlee that game they had an incentive because they thought they were in a neighborhood full of baddies so they had something to like engage with

here there's nothing so they're just bored.

i'm not saying bugs has done something townie, I just don't agree with the meta that scum!bugs would be more likely than town!bugs to disappear from the thread and do nothing cuz they're "bored"

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

here's a brief history of me playing with bugspray:


Lovers Mafia

I'm a town lover with town bugspray. Bugspray tells me after I replace into the slot that they have no intention of talking to me because they scumread my slot

we play chess instead.

they post literally nothing in the thread.

their 19th post in the game is "wait is it day 2?"

the game was

already over

at that point.


Coalition Mafia

I'm mafia, bugspray is town

they post twice and replace out.


Micro 960

I'm town, bugspray is mafia.

They post 95 times in a week.

They try to lol-hammer me but miss by like a couple minutes or whatever.

They rep out.

Notice how much more engaged Bugs is when they're actually a baddie.


Micro 980

I didn't actually get to play with bugspray because I replaced in after they got nighkilled on N1.

They posted like 28 times in a week.

They're a VT.

Mini 2196

I didn't actually get to play with bugspray because I replaced in after they replaced out.

160 posts over 26 days - replaced out. This is probably the towniest bugspray looks in a game early game, they actually have takes and shit...



Like I get people use meta-tells like if somebody is unable to post/uninterested in posting/solving they're more likely to be scum, but this is applicable differently for different people.

Murdercat is like

really really good

at solving and he loves to do it and he's less interested in playing scum cuz his scum game is flat like a deflated balloon.

I don't even have a game with Bugspray where they roll scum, look at the PM and are like "i'm bored" and don't give a shit. if somebody does you should show me.

Again I'm not comparing this to town bugspray - I have seen town bugspray just not care at all so saying this bugspray doesn't care = this bugspray is scum doesn't really do anything for me.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

pooky, if bugspray's town meta is to do nothing, do you consider bugspray trivially easy to read based just off of their activity level and nothing else? Or do they do nothing as either alignment?

nah I don't find bugspray trivially easy to read.

I'm not sure what bugspray's alignment is this game.

I am concerned by the people going "oh bugspray is doing nothing so lets yeet bugspray"

because I am unaware of any bugspray meta that exists that says "scum!bugspray does nothing"

so I'm not sure why everyone else is like yeet yeet yeet.

if anything I'm kinda of susp they see an easy target and want to get this day over with.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

also here's what town!MC looks like


Mini 2170

look at the depth of his read on me.
look at how he thinks about every angle and his processing.

now look at his iso from this game.

doesn't even look like the same person.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

im not saying i think bugspray is town

i have no idea what bugspray's alignment is tbh

I just find it weird af everyone is like all gungho for elimming bugspray when they haven't done anything.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

yea mc saying that im hard defending my mafia teammate bugspray while not voting bugspray

clap clap

not suspicious at all

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

bugspray has requested to be replaced

is any1 town goingn to unvote before we get a replacement that is readable or r we just trolling this game

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

yea i threw that limit out the window when the town decided to try to find the closest cliff they could drive off of

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

i kind of dislike pooky's stance on me, like i felt like there was more in his wallpost on me than "feels like implo buddy", and him basically skipping over that read after townreading implo feels... weird? can't say i see clear scum motivation for it.

I mean I went from wanting to kill implo to "huh ok I guess that's towntelling implo" to "ok lets yeet MC" and I dont really see why I need to express a read on you?

I'm here to kill people I think are bad not stamp people with my official pooky townstamp or w/e.

you can think my meta on MC is flat and disagree with me but you'd have to explain to me how any of what he's doing actually makes sense cuz right now all I'm seeing is a bad knockoff MC that looks fake as hell.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

maybe put together one of those colored triangles you love so much

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

you know im not shy about slapping you with a townread when I think you've towntold.

I don't see anything that you've posted that's like "oh yea datisi is 100% town"

If you're town i'll get there eventually it's not like i'm trying to kill you

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

1. the scumread was entirely based on implo scum it got thrown out when the scumread on implo got thrown out

2. i linked a game with the og real town mc so you can just read it to see what baseline im comping this to

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

town?

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

yea mc saying that im hard defending my mafia teammate bugspray while not voting bugspray

It would effectively be hammer if I voted?

isnt that what you want to do if you actually believe that I'm defending my scumbuddy because it would literally be game over?

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

!?!?

you think im defending my scumbuddy bugspray in white flag

you choose then to not hammer bugspray when doing it would pretty much kill me/bugspray and win the game.

like what!?!??!

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

hi nsg pls do that obvtowny thing you do so I can get back to killing mc thanks <3

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

cuz u look pretty bad if bugspray flips town and you probly get yeeted tomm?

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

I'll take anything with a pulse at this point

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

who?

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

The issue is you said that Pooky should have had implosion as town as of 156 - which is a dubious claim to begin with - but more importantly Pooky got there shortly after, saying he is "trying to elim" implosion isn't an accurate depiction of his play.

Look if you all don't see Pooky scum yet that's fine but it's pretty clear to me

so weak

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

Gamma/Dwlee/implo? Probably all people I could push, I could easily have voted and oops NM hammers with very little pressure on me for it

p sure this is not accurate in any way

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

let's 1v1 me and dwlee please

NSG please vote between me and dwlee

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

he was kind of flat in draft mafia too and pretended like he wasnt actually playing

p sure infinity and noraa did like 99% of the posting while murdercat just hid in a tree

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

MC r u going to explain why you are telling NSG to vote between you and dwlee?

how did you suddenly go from PookyScum protecting BugsScum to Gladiate Dwlee?

my head is spinning.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

I could elim dwlee too

are there people you wouldn't eliminate lol

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

MC r u going to explain why you are telling NSG to vote between you and dwlee?

Dwlee wagon is more viable than you

so you still think i'm scum but you think you can't get any1 to vote for me so you're gonna give up and settle for dlee instead?

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

thats a terrible explanation rofl

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

like why would town!you even be indifferent between you/dwlee which one gets elimmed

indifference implies that the result is the same either way - > s/s

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

like why would town!you even be indifferent between you/dwlee which one gets elimmed

I didn't say I was indifferent to who got limmed

this is the stuff that scum pooky does by the way

Like this is scum pooky trying to make someone look bad by twisting words, not town pooky genuinely trying to sort me or even get town to agree I'm scum.

I'm not twisting your words, its literally what you said.

"Vote me or vote dwlee"

lol

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

Do I really have to argue that forcing people to commit between Dwlee and myself is protown in the case one of us ever flips?

because?

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

thx gamma

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

i'm not sure anyone really disagrees with this.

except scum pooky I guess

I don't really see the point in arguing whether my particular approach is good or not unless you think it's scum indicative, which it isn't because I have done it before as town.

you're the one saying its good

im just asking you why its good?

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

im just asking you why its good

You aren't interested in who doesn't want to vote, FYPOV, scum me?

I'm talking about from your point of view.

I don't need you to explain my point of view to me.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

I can name the divergent solving tell after you but you need a snazzy name for it

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

North Side Tell?

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

Murdercat is NSTing because he's not very interested in solving/interaction and needs to be dragged by his fingernails into even trying.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

I don't see why having a consensus read list after reading thru half the game is scum indicative.

it's consensus for a reason lol

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

do you think murdercat is scum?

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

r u just scum with murdercat lol

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

you're talking about one post he made under pressure after ghosting the thread for a week.

his previous post had been called out as weak one liners that had no substance or depth, so of course his next post is going to contain like more than one sentence.

he knows he has to make something that looks good or he gets yeeted so why wouldn't he fake some nuance?

like letting someone self-meta their own scum game is like setting up a 5 inch high hurdle for them to walk over.

btw this is the last time murdercat like scumread me for real reals on d1:

Mini 2170

Notice how much more involved he is in solving, interacting in the thread, look at the depth level of his reads and how much detail he goes into for the town even for post elimination after I had already more or less put him in a coffin.

This is not the same at all compared to what he's doing here.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

you're talking about one post he made under pressure after ghosting the thread for a week.

his previous post had been called out as weak one liners that had no substance or depth, so of course his next post is going to contain like more than one sentence.

he knows he has to make something that looks good or he gets yeeted so why wouldn't he fake some nuance?

like letting someone self-meta their own scum game is like setting up a 5 inch high hurdle for them to walk over.

btw this is the last time murdercat like scumread me for real reals on d1:

Mini 2170

Notice how much more involved he is in solving, interacting in the thread, look at the depth level of his reads and how much detail he goes into for the town even for post elimination after I had already more or less put him in a coffin.

This is not the same at all compared to what he's doing here.

solvy flareon is a rare flareon

like you're assuming that town!murdercat would always have reads with a ton of depth which is clearly not true, even in the game that you linked there are multiple points where his reads aren't super deep

my first assumption is never that someone expanded their scumrange and i'm not sure why yours is

cuz i had to hit him with a baseball bat to even try in this game!?!?!?

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

Murdercat is NSTing because he's not very interested in solving/interaction and needs to be dragged by his fingernails into even trying.

Now show that this hasn't happened to me when I'm town

the difference is when u re engage u at least make sense and your read on me makes 0 sense

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

Murdercat is NSTing because he's not very interested in solving/interaction and needs to be dragged by his fingernails into even trying.

Now show that this hasn't happened to me when I'm town

lol goalpost moving

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

i said its more likely to come from scum MC than town MC. i didnt say town mC is never lazy

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

Like people keep telling me MC is "town" for his "solvy post" but look at the crux of his "scumcase" against me:





so according to him, I'm trying to eliminate Implosion despite dropping the implosion read

30 minutes

after talking with Implosion in this game.

How that sound reasonable to anyone?


Also read what Implo says to me:



Notice how implo is like "wow you misread me every freaking game"

and murdercat reads this and goes huh Pooky should have a good read on implosion and since he doesnt it means he's scum.

like lol what how does that make any sense?

and then when Implo himself calls out this read as being unreasonable.

Murdercat just handwaves and expects me to have the correct implo read right away and since I don't I'm scum?

like how does that make sense to anyone?!?!

Like look at Murdercat's progression, none of it makes any sense.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

i will be absolutely astounded if this is somehow murdercat's town game like what is he even doing?

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

silver is the best color and everything else is ugly

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

have you met murdercat?

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

so what

i exaggerate reads as town all the time and you know it

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

i still havent had any1 explain to me how murdercat's progression on me makes a lick of sense

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

yea the mod got mad earlier

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

its ok sometimes i think when cyrus isnt looking we can get away with it

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

you think this is a fake read on MC?

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

you think this is a fake read on MC?

>rand yeah

explain why my read on MC is fake and his read on me is real.

go ahead

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

explain it to me again like you believe it

i missed it the first time

tell me why it makes sense for MC to believe I as town would townread implosion when according to implosion i've never correctly townread him before.

go ahead say it

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

you're the one saying that's a real read,

just explain to me why that's something that makes sense for him to think about me when implo himself is standing here saying "pooky wouldn't townread me because he has never townread me in 2 other games and im sick of pooky scumreading me when we're T/T"

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

ok explain to me why my scumread on MC for first being afk/not around is "not a real read"

explain to me why my scumread of MC for not making sense with his read one me is "not a real read"

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

how am i baiting you into a 1v1 when we're discussing my read of murdercat r u serious?

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

and why does scum!me even want to 1v1 town!you?

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

like do you think scum!me has decided that instead of going for the murdercat miselim im now gonna go for the infinity miselim?

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

ok then justify your feelings about my read

why do you think my read is fake

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

I do think this is strange because I don't have history playing with you, and certainly not with you and Pooky at the same time. Why should Pooky-specifically have been able to read me-specifically (and Datisi I guess but more interested in me) at that point in the game?

I don't really get why I have to defend this further, if someone in the game is trying to elim me and two of my town reads I'm going to be suspicious that they are scum trying to eliminate town.

^

this was his explanation to implo when implo asked him why he expected pooky to townread implo

he basically flatout refused to explain why pooky!town would be expected by him to townread implo!town when pooky!town in the past has never townread implo!town.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

ok then justify your feelings about my read

why do you think my read is fake

it just felt exaggerated in a scummy way i can't explain it better than that

? what does this even mean?

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

determine your conviction level because when you're scum and making shit up you usually break

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

i am engaging you on your read of my read of murder cat which says my read is fake.

i am explaining to you my read

one of the things in my read of murder cat is that i believe his read of me is fake.

I am asking you to explain how his read of me could be real because it is important to whether my read of him is fake.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

i wasn't even attacking implosion when he scumread me

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

im still waiting for murdercat to explain how its protown from his POV for him to throw out this thunderdome

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

do u have a read on murdercat?

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

ill be honest im too lazy to bother persuading ya'all since obv no1 cares so whatever

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

gonna play some civ and call it a night

thanks for the fun infy

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

VOTE: no elimination

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

ok then justify your feelings about my read

why do you think my read is fake

it just felt exaggerated in a scummy way i can't explain it better than that

I just realized I don't believe this from infinity at all.

here's some context for ya'all.

We just finished silent star 4 - infinity was mafia, I was town.

viewtopic.php?f=23&t=87057

this is a game where I was town and expressed

extreme certainty

in Ydrasse scum and in Chara scum.

I was right on both reads.

I really doubt infinity sees me be certain in nearly the same manner and thinks "this is scum pooky exaggerating his confidence level"

I think this read from infinity on me that she can't explain is complete nonsense and I don't see town!infinity having this read on me at all.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

here i'll even make ya'all a deal since im too lazy to bother arguing with infinity/murdercat anymore and they both think im scum making up a fake read

VOTE: pooky

kill me first

if i flip scum yay winnah winnah chicken dinnah

if i flip town you kill infinity and murdercat next, you can stop on a green flip.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

im done arguing this nonsense

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

oh yea cuz i havent talked at all about why murdercat is scum at all

you're getting your wish infy

you think my read is fake

vote me out lets go

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

im not here to litigate this nonsense

im downright insulted you can read my iso and read murdercat's iso and somehow come to the conclusion that murdercat's being real and im being fake

so im gonna let you do you and yeet my fake bear butt straight out the door lets go

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

nah u said i was being fake lets go

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

here i'll even make the scum!pooky case for you:


"S!Pooky doesn't think the town will call his bluff and yeet him, he's using this as thread control to get the elim he wants because he wants to kill town!murdercat who is much more believable than pooky.

Pooky is being fake an exaggerating his read confidence"

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

infy u just spent like 4 pages arguing with me about why i'm fake and murdercat is real I wouldn't call that a slight ping.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

you're the one who said i was being fake to begin with

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

Pooky please stop because you’re making me want to fly right in the face of the no swearing rule with how irrational you’re being here

how am i being irrational if I believe MCat/Infy r mafia?

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

im not gonna have them say im scum making up a fake read

i'd rather IC myself by getting killed

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

your scumread of me makes 0 sense and i dont believe for a second town!you actually believes in it

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

you literally just saw me win a game as town by nailing your final scumbuddy chara and insisting over and over again that Chara was mafia and hardpushing the town to a win by insisting on it and now you're going to come here and say my confidence is "fake"?

nah

i dont roll that way

I dont believe you believe I roll that way

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

your scumread of me makes 0 sense and i dont believe for a second town!you actually believes in it

So why's Infinity!scum calling your confidence fake if she blatantly knows you can argue that you always exxagerate your reads?

she doesnt want me to murder murdercat

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

VOTE: no1

sure whatever i dont care if we lose to murdercat/infinity so be it

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

im ok dying idgaf

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

To be clear, my read on Pooky became more confident when he continued to push me/refused to reevaluate me after I reentered the thread

this line is a straight up lie.

i literally asked you about your read on me and showed why it was a pile of garbage.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

VOTE: dwlee

sure lets just get this game over with

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

i'm shocked nobody cares that i'm voting with my top 2 scumreads to yeet dlee

wild

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

cuz thats literally my scum MO

push mis elims one after the other and never stop

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

I'm not sure why you'd ever yeet me D1 when I consistently do better/and get easier to read with time. If you want info and think dwlee is town yeet nsg who is actually good at scum

"I scumread Pooky/Dwlee but we can always kill NSG instead cuz she's good as scum"

rofl

r u guys even reading the nonsesne murdercat is spewing rn

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

maybe i'm such an old timer at this point that none of you guys think of me as someone with a bad scumgame??? i haven't rolled scum in a long time but i would figure that team mafia 2020 was such a horrible performance that it would still stick around

then again i guess that was like nearly two years ago now???

i think your scum game is very readable tbh

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

pretty sure she's like an 85 on the Bell Curve

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

nah i'm mad you can read my iso and murdercat's iso and think somehow that I'm faking it and he's being real like what

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

has he ever even played with scum!you?

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

so basically you have no basis for your statement

cool

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

Pooky who am I scum with

r u even reading my posts

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

im getting clidd/flea flashbacks lol

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

yussssssssssss

VOTE: mc

chooooo chooooooooo

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

Look at team mafia where he was all boohoo about Kanna getting eliminated D1

i'm still upset she got eliminated d1 tbh :<

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

me too

I miss kanna

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

Scum!Pooky here could be annoyed his mislim was falling through. I just think it's weird you think the ate here is beyond scum!Pooky.

why wouldn't I just elim you instead of going for murdercat then

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

And I mean you also did vote me...

yea after throwing a tantrum

if i was just scum i'd just yeet you without throwing a tantrum cuz i dont give a f which townie i kill

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

Infinity did you stop reading TTTT when you died? Pooky used a ton of AtE there, even when the game was effectively decided.

cause he was pissed that clidd replaced out and they were likely to win if he didn't (correct me if i'm wrong pooky)

i'm not saying the ate has to serve a game purpose he just has to be mad about

something

Scum!Pooky here could be annoyed his mislim was falling through. I just think it's weird you think the ate here is beyond scum!Pooky.

But if MC is town, Pooky actually has a ton of reason to want him specifically gone because he will probably be able to get a good solve later. From what was linked earlier, scum!pooky pushed MC in their last game with scum! pooky and town!MC

@pooky see above

cause he was pissed that clidd replaced out and they were likely to win if he didn't (correct me if i'm wrong pooky)

i'm not saying the ate has to serve a game purpose he just has to be mad about

something

Scum!Pooky here could be annoyed his mislim was falling through. I just think it's weird you think the ate here is beyond scum!Pooky.

do you think this could be scum!Infinity TMI townreading a town!Pooky or do you think scum!Pooky or what? I'm not understanding why the sudden pushback here or how it fits into your read of the game

Scum!infinity doing something is my guess? I've had some head scratching moments from infinity here and I think she isn't thinking like I think town would with her experiences.

And I mean you also did vote me...

yea after throwing a tantrum

if i was just scum i'd just yeet you without throwing a tantrum cuz i dont give a f which townie i kill

I just explained why I think you would give a [Cyrus].

But if MC is town, Pooky actually has a ton of reason to want him specifically gone because he will probably be able to get a good solve later. From what was linked earlier, scum!pooky pushed MC in their last game with scum! pooky and town!MC

i guess, my read is just that he wouldn't get THAT mad

he was really upset

Ehh

This is a pretty weird series of posts to make while you're voting for Murdercat lol

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

where do u get this pooky is good at game thing from exactly lol

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

i want to know how you decided i am good to sheep

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

which game of mine did u watch that u were like

wow pooky is really good at catching baddies?

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

oops my bad

i accept bop

VOTE: Pooky

enchant is shady af

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

=.=

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

I had a dream Pooky was mafia.

I… think I also did?

kinda wild people are having dreams about me

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

@pooky

: why did you initially decide to limit your post count D1?

it looked fun to do and I was pretty overgamed

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

peta?

nah this was way more extreme than what peta did which was like 5/10 posts per day.

I was trying to do 1 post per day

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

25 was for the whole game lol

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

mb they r scared of me

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

I'm a power wolf AwwwwwwwwwwwooooOOOOOOOOoooooooooo

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

this is next level

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

fuck it my cat can't be wrong on everything

VOTE: dwlee

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

im not ateing

i alrdy said i accept bop idgaf

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

happy scumday NSG!!!!!!!! :3

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

VOTE: bloodhail

ok lets try i guess

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

didnt u just say i was scum like 5 min ago >.>

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

im pretty susp of dwlee/enchant and them both being ok with this wagon makes me get the feeling this is not going to be a scum flip but i was wrong yesterday so im ok just sheeping today since i am not really on fire this game :>

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

im pretty susp of dwlee/enchant

why?
I kinda feel like enchant is town, somewhat by virtue of klick's play

im susp of enchant cuz our eod convo where he pulled out some random crap about sheeping me becuz im good felt like something enchant didnt come up with on his own cuz im pretty sure he's never played with me in a game where i like kill lots of baddies?

in fact he's played in a game with me where I'm like hilariously wrong on literally every read so I'm not sure town!him comes up with that line of thought where it's let's sheep Poooooooky!

im susp of dwlee cuz he was at 4 votes yesterday with me/murdercat/infy all voting him and nobody really pushed his wagon to 7 and that feels kind of weird if he's town and theres no scum on the wagon with him.

also murdercat said me/dwlee r scum and i know im town so i dunno if mr paragon completely whiffed but I'd like to think my cat caught at least like one baddie ya know?

plus the way their votes move this game don't feel like they are geniunenly considering things, feels like openwolfy bullshit to me.

but i was like totally wrong yesterday so im down to sheep and be a good baaaaaaaaaaaaaa vote

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

im pumped lets goooooooooooooooo

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

VOTE: NSG

sheep sheep sheep

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

i think goats trying to kill dwlee is p clearing lol

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

what do u think of nsg

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

it feels like the scum team conceded

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

ok sort her then?

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

ok you can sort her after work if she's still alive

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

me too buddy

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

My ability to enjoy a game is hurt when people are overactive, spam wall posts and/or drag days out unnecessarily

lol you dont even read games dont front

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

if any1 can end the game by hammering their own scumbuddy its you NM

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

didnt u say implosion was scum

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

good talk

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

i've been told that you stop trying to solve when you're scum

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

I think if you were town it wouldn't be difficult for you to convince us and I'm p sure GLion is town

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

ahaha, wow. what is that even supposed to mean? and what does GL being town have to do with anything?

oh im just sheeping him cuz im a little lamb now

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

I think if you were town it wouldn't be difficult for you to convince us

like, you realize this is a ridiculous thing to say, right?

You did say you were able to obvtown ?

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

did i misremember or something

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

i mean you disappearing for a long period of time feels like what scum!you does and sheeping is just part of it,

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

if all you're going to do is omgus its very hard for me to believe you're town

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

r you going to do some kind of self meta thing to show you're town?

all i know of your scum play is that someone told me you're not really interested in solving and you have trouble sustaining effort when you're scum and I see you're not around so I think probly scum.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

"if nsg doesn't post much as scum, why is this only happening now instead of day one?"


there's a difference between sustained effort over an entire game and effort at the beginning.


"what evidence is there to believe the idea that this is an expression of scum meta instead of real life business?"

I don't know what your RL is like because I'm neither a stalker nor a psychic.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

aren't you supposed to be a better player than this? like, even if you're scum pretending to be town. that's sort of my hangup here.

and this isn't even about you being wrong-because obviously i was wrong, probably am, and will be again and again in every game, there's nothing bad about that-it's about the thought process.

if I was scum I would never have defended bugspray d1 I just let them die lol

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

"if nsg doesn't post much as scum, why is this only happening now instead of day one?"


there's a difference between sustained effort over an entire game and effort at the beginning.

and you have evidence or reason to believe that one is specifically scum indicative for me over the other? or are you just fitting a narrative?

"what evidence is there to believe the idea that this is an expression of scum meta instead of real life business?"

I don't know what your RL is like because I'm neither a stalker nor a psychic.

so what you're saying is that you have no evidence whatsoever, no reason to believe what you're saying over the null hypothesis.

I just see you not around and think "that's scummy she's not here"


yes I am very simpleminded.

I have no evidence about your RL because it would be creepy af if I did.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

you say you want some bombshell post or self meta that clears me? fine, here's a truth bomb for you - i have to go to sleep and wake up in less than five hours. there's no scum game on the planet that i'd still be here talking for.

mmm ok

unvote

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

good night

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

I don't know if you are scum ghosting the thread or town who is too busy irl to post.

just like I don't know anyone's alignment in this game for sure except my own.

I make guesses.

That's just how the game works?

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

ok I usually just make wild ass guesses I'm not smart enough to make

inferences

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

im only underwhelming when im town

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

That post is so bad. "I'm suspicious of these two people on the wagon after me but i'm not gonna unvote because i'm a good sheep." Is that like, actually how town, even despondent town, thinks about a game? Idk maybe I just need Inf/GL to explain what they see to me.

its certainly not what scum!me says when im voting a scumbuddy

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

its literally in 1439

which part of it do you want me to explain?

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

I don't get it

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

that was what I was thinking at the time

so i wrote it down

i'm not sure what you want me to explain?

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

i mean I think i made the same post as you did except your post is longer and your belief about my meta whereas I'm more snarky and direct and self-metaing.

I don't really bus very much but when I do I make it look good.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

i guess im more insulted that he thinks scum me plays that badly than anything

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

Pooky you did not make the bus convincing on Murdercat in TTTT

wtf r u talking about i literally got to the final 5 and we almost won lol

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

and that setup was townsided af lulz

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

Kinda disagree the way I voted MC in that game was in any way similar to the way I voted goats this game.

I didn't even want to bus MC he started the fight in the first place and I thought it'd look bad for him if I didn't slap him back a bit

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

Didn't you just sheep me onto MC and say okay?

nah i slapped him around a few times first

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

besides you should know im town cuz if i'm scum I just let MC kill you D1 instead of throwing a hissy fit and calling him a scumbag

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

its a lot easier to let MC kill you then kill MC for being wrong on you then killing MC and then pushing you.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

im not gonna vote for NSG cuz she yelled at me but I'm not gonna stand in the way either

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

im not voting nsg she yelled at me

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

i kinda want to kill Enchant tbh

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

r we not allowed to say kill now

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

i would like to kick enchant off our island in a completely nonlethal manner

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

cuz i think hes mafia

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

the last time she yelled at me for voting her she was town

i cant really say she's town with any confidence cuz she's just awoling but it could be rl or w/e

we have time if we want to wait around for her to come back

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

its probly gonna flip red cuz thats the ending we deserve lol

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

sorry about trolling you in the beginning implo :3

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

Pooky being alive this long always worries me, ngl.

why would scum even shoot me at this point

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

Pooky, aren't you supposed to try get me killed at this day?

Before NGL you said i am mafia and provided reasons. Did something change?

nope

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

can we get everyone's preferred elim target?

mine is Enchant.

NM's is Implo

What's everyone else thinking?

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

is that a team guess or you think we are equally likely to be scum?

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

kinda wild

if i was scum i just shove you on d1 lol

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

lol @ enchant

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

Pooky - can you explain what you're scumreading in Enchant from the past few game days? I remember you not liking his reasoning for sheeping you on murder, is that still the main point you have against him? sorry if I forgot/missed it but have you commented on my point about how he swung the D2 lim from N_M to goats?

he is less opinionated than he usually is as town as well

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

This feels like very much not the first time you defend yourself with "if i were scum i would have just done x differently" with no justification whatsoever and i'm left with no idea why i should believe this.

I simply state the truth

if I'm scum I just push you and kill you