Open 823 - To Tell The Truth | Game Over

[T3]

VOTE: goats
Let's get to the mech stuff.
Flashwagon this.

[T3]

VOTE: nm
Kill the cow

[T3]

T3 is scum

Kill the cyrus
actually don't because you're easy to read

[T3]

T3 is scum

Kill the cyrus
actually don't because you're easy to read

wtf???

This is such a lie, is this dude your scum partner?

Kill the Hockey puck

[T3]

GOAT

[T3]

ok

[T3]

ok alt
votenm

[T3]

VOTE: goates

[T3]

VOTE: arcangel

Wait wtf cyrus might be town?

VOTE: goates

T3 what are you doing and why are you like this. I dont understand the pattern of your votes

tbh i just want to sppedlim someone so we can get to the mech stuf.

[T3]

VOTE: arcangel

Wait wtf cyrus might be town?

VOTE: goates

T3 what are you doing and why are you like this. I dont understand the pattern of your votes

I know exactly what alignment cyrus is but we don't want to do anything with him yet.

[T3]

VOTE: arcangel

Wait wtf cyrus might be town?

VOTE: goates

T3 what are you doing and why are you like this. I dont understand the pattern of your votes

I know exactly what alignment cyrus is but we don't want to do anything with him yet.

Mate what, you 2 scum partners?

so i think arc and t3 are scum together.

I have a better theory. I think you and hockey are scum together!

VOTE: arcangel

Wait wtf cyrus might be town?

What about this vote makes him towny?

It was more of the idea in my head that "hey, cyrus also sees angel's latest post as scummy"(same thought process as me), he might be town!. Ofc its too early to lock him in as hard town but i think he can be a good TL to start off with

So what part of what i said was scummy?.

I said earlier that post was mainly trying to discredit's peoples early reads(such as T3 scum, N_M town e.tc)

I can read cyrus very well.

[T3]

Won't say.

[T3]

Won't say.

VOTE: T3

This 'I have a read but I won't tell you it yet' seems anti-town. Seems like keeping it unspoken means you can wait to see whether others lean cyrus:town or cyrus:scum so you can then say that's what your read was too.

It's protown.

[T3]

now i know t3 is scum trying to shade me early knowing im always a easy elimination.

LOL

[T3]

lol
cyrus is obvscum by meta
he usually townreads his partners for bad reasons early on
so I was waiting for him to out his partners

[T3]

[bgladiate cyrus[/b] VOTE: cyrus
He's flipping scum.

[T3]

own cyrus does not give scumreads, scumleans, null, leantown, etc. Scum cyrus does. Scum cyrus is much more logical but town cyrus does wack stuff

[T3]

No I'm not.
Anyways Arc locktown, cyrus is lockscum.
I have a near perfect track record of reading cyrus. Also, town cyrus usually posts longer posts.

[T3]

Look at screaming and tell me this is not cyrus scum.

[T3]

No I'm not.
Anyways Arc locktown, cyrus is lockscum.
I have a near perfect track record of reading cyrus. Also, town cyrus usually posts longer posts.

What the fuck, how do u lock town Arc, WHY ARE THEY TOWN??

cyrus is scumreading her.

[T3]

He's scum

[T3]

*takes step backwards*
Sure lol

[T3]

I accept your townread .

[T3]

I thought you were Koba.

[T3]

Ohh k

[T3]

I'm kinda playing this like a meme game

[T3]

But yeah, goats locktown for townreading me so fast.

[T3]

lolwut
cyrus openwolfing.

[T3]

Meg town I think.

[T3]

Meg, thoughts on cyrus?

[T3]

;-;

[T3]

tl;dr version of this game: cyrus Ima and NM were scum and town had a perfect game

[T3]

You are

[T3]

Good analysis of imaginality and I don't think they are s/s.

[T3]

no? If we get Player X and Player Y. and Player x's role is innocent, and they get a true result, they will be annouced as town. However, lets say we roll a 6 on the 1VX(number of mafia), Players Y's role will be announced as town even if they are mafia so we do we really have confirms? I could just be stupid

Wont X elimination confirms that Y result was untrue.

Elimination does reveal their rule faction isn't it?

If X gets eliminated, it confirms that X's result was true, it does *not* confirm that Y's result was false.
Since "X is innocent" is true, that means that "X is innocent or ..." is true regardless of what comes after the or

My only question is what happens if both results are false

We are complicating it. It is simple

D1 reveals the identity of two players - One of it is True and the other is false. Eliminate one and the other gets confirmed.

N_M is town

Too soon to say!

T3 is scum

Way too soon to speculate!

T3 is scum

I was going to say this but he has to roll town in at least one game right? :^). or idk he could be scum for voting N_M the locktowned

The possibility of a rolling town is more than rolling scum.

my rat died the other week.

What? Is there context to this?

maybe shouldn't spam submit, no wonder it was lagging

Okay.

VOTE: goals

We got a cow for this, no need of a goat.

discrediting everyone here aka chainsawing.and whiteknighting.

That is not chainsawing or whiteknighting.

[T3]

Official Vote Count 1.04

Elimination

With 9 alive, 5 votes are required for elimination.

T3

(3): imaginality, HockeyFan, cyrus62

cyrus62

(2): Zyla, T3

Not_Mafia

(2): Not_Mafia, goats

goats

(1): ArcAngel9

imaginality

(1): MegAzumarill

Not Voting

(0):

Deadline:

(expired on 2021-08-18 08:49:51).

Mod notes:

ArcAngel9 has been prodded.

Can we please take me off NM-1.
I'm slightly paranoid

[T3]

cyrus, vote him by meta.

[T3]

cyrus is obvious scum by meta

[T3]

GOGOGOGOGOGOGOGOGOGOGO
HOCKEY
HAMMER CYRUS
SO THAT NM WAS ACTUALLY THE E1 VOTE

[T3]

Meg town I think.

Meg, thoughts on cyrus?

Good analysis of imaginality and I don't think they are s/s.

I would like thoughts on these posts, as they partain to T3's alignment, and his partner equity (high or low) with Meg

WHAT

[T3]

im talking about cyruz
oops

[T3]

Good analysis of imaginality.

[T3]

Imaginality's posts are pretty towny this day phase so far

252 in a vacuum is +town but imaginality is an experienced player so Idk.

[T3]

lol arc
VOTE: arc
Either you and nm are both town or both scum, you do realize that.

[T3]

Wait am I really confused about the setup
I thought the arc nm thing was a parity cop check.

[T3]

I'm an idiot. UNVOTE:

[T3]

Nah not a townslip. Just me being dumb.

[T3]

I blurt whatever I'm thinking out

[T3]

Ugh kinda overgamed and busy
Zyla's posts sound townie.

[T3]

Scum me is very very serious and town me is chaotic.

[T3]

fair, fair

[T3]

t3, whats your gun to head solve

Arc Zyla Imaginality?

[T3]

Meg will flake out I think just wait for the replacement.

[T3]

VOTE: zayla

[T3]

T3 why did you want to rush to the mechanics day 1 but now you've done basically nothing with it

tbh I'm not really sure what to do.
I think Arc is 1/2 rand to be scum? So yeah.

[T3]

Arc actually seems towny? I'm having trouble forming reads.

[T3]

OPPORTUNISM IS NOT A SCUMTELL

[T3]

OPPORTUNISM IS NOT A SCUMTELL

THEN WHY DO YOU THINK ARC IS TOWNY FOR PUSHING ME FOR "BEING OPPURUNIST"

MY EEEEAAAARRRRRRRSSSSS
OKSO
THIS IS THE BORDERLINE BUT NOT IRRATIONAL TUNNEL
THAT
USUALY
COMES
FROM
TOWN

[T3]

VOTE: hockey
We're not limming Kop.

[T3]

blegh

[T3]

what the fuck

[T3]

Was this literally just done to troll me by doing my top 2 townreads

[T3]

Was this literally just done to troll me by doing my top 2 townreads

are you actually town reading Kop? Are you really? Have you read his posts? Have you read his predecessors posts?

Yes.
But I townread you more. VOTE: kop

[T3]

Oh wait it's elo
Meh Kop is still scum.

[T3]

Scum goats has no reason to locktown me so early.

[T3]

Correct, you are indeed almost confirmed scum to me. Unless goats is the ballsiest scum ever. VOTE: zyal

[T3]

Oh I was under the assumption there were 3 scum lol
UNVOTE: zyle

[T3]

ughh
So the goats/ima interaction makes me think ima is scum?

[T3]

Also this is the second time I've ever been prodded lol

[T3]

goats reaction feels genuine

[T3]

can we unvote goats so nm doesn't hammer

[T3]

VOTE: arc
I'm good with this.

[T3]

it's just imaginality/zyla here?
idk

[T3]

goats is pretty obvtown

[T3]

Huh. I don't see it like that.

If goats is town I

really

don't get why scum targeted them, when if they left them alone they'd very likely have been eliminated today. Just target two other townies and it's an easy win by getting goats eliminated today.

Goats being scum hoping for an inno on themselves makes more sense, I reckon. And it probably was worth the gamble to hope for an inno given that goats was likely going down today otherwise. So worst case they still go down, scum haven't really lost anything by trying for an inno.

Also I think goats would see themselves as having a decent chance of winning a guilty-guilty 50-50 shot vs NM, whereas against anyone else they wouldn't. So NM being the other target fits.

Just to note, goats+Not_Mafia is ruled out as a pairing by this result.

The shift to ArcAngel at the end of yesterday smelt bad to me. I'm trying to figure out whether Zyla pushing it makes her scum (teamed with goats) or town led astray by goats's flailing. My gut says if goat is scum T3 is goats' partner and Zyla is misled town. T3 being quick to call goats obv town based on the result fits with that too.


If I'm wrong and goats is town:

Zyla+T3... seems unlikely because with the likely inno-inno results like this it gives one of them too high a chance of being today's elimination.

Zyla-NM... I don't see Zyla+NM going for NM or for goats. For above reasons with goats and because I don't think they would risk the likely guilty on NM. More likely they target T3 and me and hope for a false guilty, or a goats mislim otherwise.

T3+NM... Maybe. Probably the most likely of those three possibilities. Just because scum!T3 has more chance of winning endgame if scum!NM gets eliminated, compared with scum!Zyla. But again, why not just target me and Zyla and hope for a false guilty?

I do think NM would fancy himself as winning a guilty-guilty vs goats, it just seems unnecessary to take the risk.

So right now, I see it as:
goats-T3
goats-Zyla
..
T3-NM
Zyla-NM
Zyla-T3

@T3

If goats is town then why did scum target them last night?

WIFOM
also goats is still obvtown

[T3]

gonna wait for zulu

[T3]

VOTE: goats
Mazel tov!

[T3]