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Oh (s)pooky you sly charming devil you. (My computer autocorrected it to spooky. It might just fit!)In post 8, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:Greetings and Salutations Lady Tammy,
I am glad that we have the opportunity to meet again - hopefully under better terms this time as the last time we met was not the best circumstances. It has been a long time since that fateful evening in the smoky antechamber and I am a reformed bear. I promise that this time I have only the best of intentions.
I know you may have doubts about my alignment but I assure you that this time I am aligned with the town and I will endeavour to prove myself to you with deeds and words both fair and noble such that I may win your hand in this dance.
I have heard a mutual acquaintance remark that you are perhaps the kindest and fairest of all the ladies who grace the court and have no difficulty at all proving both your alignment and hunting down the enemies who would do us harm - possibly even in the top 90%. I hope you are as aligned with this fair town as I am and that we might eventually reach a point in the game where you might trust me enough to allow me to sweep you off your feet.
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Keep the sweet nothings coming and maybe just maybe I'll get over my inherint mistrust of my ability to trust you.I am in the top 90% of scumhunters onsite!-
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Please don't death tunnel me. Whatever will I do?
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I'm just trying to be worthy, m'lord.In post 65, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:I've never seen the trolly side of Tammy before
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I have not thought about how I want to play this game at all. I didn't plan on playing mafia at all for a little while longer, but Prism, so here I am. Also the wiki says that when someone says they trust you, the person must reciprocate, which um had me confused and I thought that mafia then couldn't ask someone to trust. But that's not the case where you have to reciprocate, but I only learned that this morning when the rules were posted, which I read so go me don't be too shocked that I did this.
Anyway, I figured I'd see how things played out and started and figure out how to play it from there.I am in the top 90% of scumhunters onsite!-
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>>In post 92, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:i decided before i signed up that I would try to win Tammy's hand in dance or stay behind with her if I believe she is like mafia to keep her company.I am in the top 90% of scumhunters onsite!-
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Why not?In post 95, Prism wrote:
I wouldn't accept as scum until solo so don't worry.In post 90, Enchant wrote:
Can't believe i trustfelled scum for 2 min 35 second 302 miniseconds.In post 77, Prism wrote:I've had many, many thoughts on how to play this game: I've considered declaring that I will not trust or accept a trust at all, I've considered declaring the same but until 4 way. I haven't really arrived at a final answer — it's going to hinge largely on the other players — but the one guarantee is that I will not be exiting early. I will not accept any proposals prior to Day 3, and will adamantly resist any attempts to compel me to accept.I am in the top 90% of scumhunters onsite!-
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If I were scum, you don't know how much I would appreciate this. Your presence in games is enjoyable, even when you're a murderer, but here as scum I wouldn't have the sweet release of an early elimination when I made myself obvious. I'd just have to sit around waiting til the end. So, yeah the company would be nice.In post 105, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:i am hoping with all my heart that you rolled town as I did but if you did not I promise to stay behind and play you beautiful songs on youtube to keep you company <3
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I was just wondering because I thought you preferred going out first?
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>>In post 118, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:
Tammy I can say without question that if you were scum here that you have wrapped your hands around my fragile heart and that I am quite helpless against your charm and wit.In post 111, Tammy wrote:
If I were scum, you don't know how much I would appreciate this. Your presence in games is enjoyable, even when you're a murderer, but here as scum I wouldn't have the sweet release of an early elimination when I made myself obvious. I'd just have to sit around waiting til the end. So, yeah the company would be nice.In post 105, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:i am hoping with all my heart that you rolled town as I did but if you did not I promise to stay behind and play you beautiful songs on youtube to keep you company <3
I am town though!
There is a part of me that thinks that you know how untrusting and paranoid I can be and wouldn't want to spark that, so maybe you are town.
But that's a really stupid reason and I'll shake that one off.
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I'm not solving right now. I'm not really one to attempt to solve in the first few pages of the game. I don't like to do it, nor am I good at it. I typically think most people look scummy in the first few pages of the game because I can't tell the difference between people pretending to solve and people trying to get the game started. Unless something really jumps out at me, like your entrance in Warehouse 13, I pretty much view everything early game as neutral noise that I'll look back at later when I actually get serious. I used to try because I thought I needed to be aggressive to be town read, but I hated it, so now I play in a way that I enjoy and is comfortable for me.In post 124, Prism wrote:
I'm really curious about this. Maybe you're having fun horsing around with Pooky but there isn't really a solve intent.In post 89, Tammy wrote:Anyway, I figured I'd see how things played out and started and figure out how to play it from there.
This makes my head tilt a bit, too, because while you don't prefer scum your scumgame is not weak.In post 111, Tammy wrote:If I were scum, you don't know how much I would appreciate this. Your presence in games is enjoyable, even when you're a murderer, but here as scum I wouldn't have the sweet release of an early elimination when I made myself obvious. I'd just have to sit around waiting til the end. So, yeah the company would be nice.
I am town though!
I get that it can be annoying and I look scummy for it to people who aren't used to my early approach (and even some who are used to it), but once I get started that concern usually goes away. Usually.
I'm also working and just popping in here to shoot the shit every few minutes or so as a little break.
Thank you for thinking my scum game isn't weak. I will admit that I think my scum game is weaker than others do, but other than the flying scumsman which I hydra'd in last year, I have not drawn scum in 4? years? While I think I have a terrible scum game in general, I do not expect my first time drawing scum solo in four years to be anything but me obvscumming immediately and being able to do nothing about it.
Was I right in remembering that you preferred to go out first in most scum teams? What would be different about this game than that? (Or was that the joke you were referring to?)I am in the top 90% of scumhunters onsite!-
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I understood what you meant and was expecting you to call me out for it.In post 125, Prism wrote:Elaborating on my first line: By "solve intent" I mean you haven't really shown much interest in the meaning of interactions or in poking at places beyond the theory question to me. Perhaps that's my fault for shrugging it off rather than making my arrogance more transparent; the genuine answer would be that I have full confidence that I can get townread whenever I want and would prefer to let my partner go first.
The theory question wasn't so much of a theory question as me trying to understand your mindset. That's not quite right, but I've drank a lot of tea and too much caffeine makes me tweaky and that's the best I got. I can't quite word what exactly I was looking for with that question or if it would have helped me in any way, but I'm pretty sure you've stated before that you prefer to be the first one to go in a mafia team which I thought was interesting because you do have a strong scum game. So, you saying that you would prefer to go last felt a little incongruous with that previous statement and I wondered if it was due to the game mechanic or if it could be alignment relevant.I am in the top 90% of scumhunters onsite!-
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Oh I forgot you had him on ignore. My bad.In post 134, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:
@Moderator please check if this is allowed under site rulesIn post 127, the worst wrote:I'm not reading his postsI am in the top 90% of scumhunters onsite!-
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I thought you were prism. I'm going to get you guys confused fair warning. I don't think I've seen you in forever!In post 145, Klick wrote:This playerlist is insane
Tammy, how do you think you'd be approaching the start of this right now if you were scum, that you're not doing now (if anything)?
Hmmm. I'm not sure. One thing that used to get me caught is not seeming appropriately happy to draw town, so I started trying to fake that happiness and energy at the start. I might do that? I don't know. There's nobody here that has that beginning of the game meta for me, so I probably wouldn't? I might make a few more posts that look appropriately solvey in some fashion? Just because my strength as scum is only as good as how long I can go without getting widespread suspicion. I'm not all that great at shaking off suspicion once it starts if it starts early unless I know specifically how to manipulate the person who suspects me.
I don't know if that makes sense. So I might have used a couple of those things, but not sure if I would have.I am in the top 90% of scumhunters onsite!-
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Oh in case this was towards me at all. I've seen Pooky scum a couple times. I know how pockety, sly and charismatic he can be.In post 143, the worst wrote:
haven't read the quoted ydr but based on context clues, I feel like I should say hard pocketing one person into mid/lategame was literally Pooky's plan as scum in this setup previouslyIn post 129, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:the lesson i learned from the last run of this is that even if i get perfect reads people will just ignore me and throw so im not going to give a shit about catching bad guys this time and just focus on convincing tammy that i am very town :2
but then again (based on context clues) this is too overt and funny to actually be a strong indicator of that agenda. I think? someone tell me if I'm right I'm just guessing hereI am in the top 90% of scumhunters onsite!-
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?In post 169, MafMen wrote:always love it when someone who was just joking around 5 minutes ago jumps to writing a paragraph whenever someone gets an inkling of suspicion
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No, really?In post 176, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:I think he's saying your reaction is scum!indicativeI am in the top 90% of scumhunters onsite!-
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Ah so mafmen is one of those super cool individuals who goes I suspect you therefore I won't answer a question you ask.
tsk tsk
Anyway the reason why I ask is because why would I ignore someone asking me questions? Whether or not I was joking around? What does it mean for someone to joke around and then be serious when addressed seriously? How is that mafia indicative to you?
I'm trying to figure out your alignment and see if these are actual real thoughts you hold or rubbish to throw shade in a really weak way.I am in the top 90% of scumhunters onsite!-
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In post 200, the worst wrote:
wisdom did post after being trustedIn post 198, Tammy wrote:I think you guys are weird and giving both wisdom and prism too easy of a pass there.
He did, but did he see your post for sure? And did he know that it counted for sure?
No way am I writing wisdom off as town off of that.
But I actually don't have any town reads right now, so I'm just going to poo poo the lot of you.I am in the top 90% of scumhunters onsite!-
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Yeah I was watching it in real time. I'm still not going to write wisdom off as town for that.In post 206, the worst wrote:In post 203, Tammy wrote:In post 200, the worst wrote:
wisdom did post after being trustedIn post 198, Tammy wrote:I think you guys are weird and giving both wisdom and prism too easy of a pass there.
He did, but did he see your post for sure? And did he know that it counted for sure?
No way am I writing wisdom off as town off of that.
But I actually don't have any town reads right now, so I'm just going to poo poo the lot of you.
just for clarity
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they caaaaanIn post 46, Wisdom wrote:Okay, so trust thingy cannot be used as a thing to stir up content or pressure
Do you guys wanna use pseudovotes or something
it just ends badly
I'm down for pseudovotes
VOTE: wisdom
~20 secondsIn post 49, Enchant wrote:Vote counts as Trust here as i remember.
~45 secondsIn post 50, Wisdom wrote:Dunno feels a bit harder to get reads without some form of pressure
For example my favorite way of reading is to deathtunnel which now I can't do
wisdom was almost certainly pedited by Enchant pointing out that votes meant trust, and would still have had time to vote me back before my lazy phoneposting self got back
I've been bit in the ass too many times for writing people off as town off things like that, and I'm not going to do that this game.I am in the top 90% of scumhunters onsite!-
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*shrug*In post 211, MafMen wrote:you guys are definitely being too hard on wisdom here
an 'easy pass'? cmon
Now do I think Wisdom, who I think could figure out how to get town reads without voting or death tunneling, would come out with something hokey like "how do I get town reads without voting?" as scum. Maybe not, even joking. But I don't trust that interpretation of mine either.
But I respect his scum game too much to just write him off for not trusting when he could have. He could have either not trusted the rule would be in effect and didn't want to risk it or thought that doing it was too risky.I am in the top 90% of scumhunters onsite!-
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I've just spent five hours grading. I'm about to take a break from the computer and get some dinner anyway. See you later.In post 214, Prism wrote:See you responded Tammy, have a call in 10 minutes so the rest of the catchup will have to wait a few hours sorry.I am in the top 90% of scumhunters onsite!-
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That's fine! I change my mind a lot too, but why wouldn't getting people to talk about the reasoning for their reads and trying to determine if they're real or bs be productive?In post 217, the worst wrote:i'm like the king of declaring people cleared then changing my mind 30 seconds later and i still don't feel bad for treating wisdom as town until he makes me second guess myself.
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Ah! I wondered if that was it. If that's based on old meta and you were hoping to get an easy town read off of that, I don't really implode anymore. I don't care about the game and how I'm read in the same way anymore.
No matter whether or not I'm having fun, I'll almost always address a serious question asked of me and will fluctuate moods. And I get called out for that particular thing pretty often. I'm used to it, and I expect to get grilled by Prism.I am in the top 90% of scumhunters onsite!-
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Subject: Smoke-Filled Antechamber [Endgame]In post 241, Prism wrote:
I am so confused but I guess there is much to learn about a Tammatha. I feel like this is scummy but I will give it more time.In post 130, Tammy wrote:I'm not solving right now. I'm not really one to attempt to solve in the first few pages of the game.I don't like to do it, nor am I good at it.I typically think most people look scummy in the first few pages of the game because I can't tell the difference between people pretending to solve and people trying to get the game started. Unless something really jumps out at me, like your entrance in Warehouse 13, I pretty much view everything early game as neutral noise that I'll look back at later when I actually get serious. I used to try because I thought I needed to be aggressive to be town read, but I hated it, so now I play in a way that I enjoy and is comfortable for me.
It’s literally a variation on my stock answer to this question.Tammy wrote:
I actually expected you to scum read or not town read my early game. I'm not much of an early game solver; I used to try to be but it really didn't fit me, so I settled back into floating through the early game in a more observational way because it's more me. I imagine the reason the people are town reading me has more to do with my scum game and its deficiencies than I'm objectively town right now. (It's sad, but I was out of my scum range on like page 5, for reasons even the people here who know me might not know.) That doesn't matter though because hopefully my town mojo is not completely lost and it'll be cool soon enough.In post 1356, petapan wrote:well the process was raelizing i don't actually remember anything about how you play, which made me realize i didn't remember anything you've done this game, which led me to read back on you and realize i don't townread you and i'm not sure why anyone does. i didn't have any serious intentions of attempting to wagon you (i was going giving you and diamondsentinel the "first game off a hiatus" d1 pass regardless of my read), but felt the need to express that read in a visible fashionI am in the top 90% of scumhunters onsite!-
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Two things:In post 242, Prism wrote:literally what
I agree that the incongruity was worth questioning, but do not know how to interpret the response given how wildly offbase some of this has been to me.In post 133, Tammy wrote:The theory question wasn't so much of a theory question as me trying to understand your mindset. That's not quite right, but I've drank a lot of tea and too much caffeine makes me tweaky and that's the best I got. I can't quite word what exactly I was looking for with that question or if it would have helped me in any way, but I'm pretty sure you've stated before that you prefer to be the first one to go in a mafia team which I thought was interesting because you do have a strong scum game. So, you saying that you would prefer to go last felt a little incongruous with that previous statement and I wondered if it was due to the game mechanic or if it could be alignment relevant.
While the difference was explained more by the EM vs. MS treatment of my play trust fall is a setup that it doesn't work as well in mechanically, either, as you can't induce town to burn miselims like crazy and instead have to more actively convince them your partner is town.
I’m not scumhunting yet. I expect you to call me out for that. I don’t know why that would be confusing. I get called out. I expected you to do it.
I expect to get grilled by you. Regardless of your alignment. Last game I told you what I thought I noticed about how you tend to grill people you’re familiar with. If you’re town you’re going to do it because you’ll want to get the read correct especially at this point when nobody should be townreading me right now. Nobody here knows or understands my mindset well enough to get the correct read at this moment. And it’s possible as scum you might do it to since I already told you that it’s one thing I look for in you. I’m less certain about that last bit though.
I didn’t follow the second part. What’s off base?I am in the top 90% of scumhunters onsite!-
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I didn’t say that. I don’t think they should. My reasoning for posting that was that it’s literally my stock answer that I’ve given so often it’s not alignment indicative anymore if it ever was. Prism thought a line of it was scummy, to which I could go nub uh or I can be stylish and quote myselfIn post 250, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:Tammy what should Prism be townreading you for?I am in the top 90% of scumhunters onsite!-
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You’re underestimating how terrible I think it will go when I roll scum.In post 256, Infinity 324 wrote:tammy's thought line of "i wouldn't be good here if scum" and "i'd already be impressed with myself if scum here" seems genuine so she's lean town i think
i don't think scum!tammy would think she did anything good yet
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Nope. I pretty much have a healthy dose of suspicion of everyone here right now.In post 265, Infinity 324 wrote:
ok but not even a townlean?In post 213, Tammy wrote:I've been bit in the ass too many times for writing people off as town off things like that, and I'm not going to do that this game
I have a small reason for why wisdom might be town and a small reason for why pooky might be town, but both my reasons are dumb and I don’t trust them.
Probably feel the best about the duck right now…maybe? I liked his last response to me.I am in the top 90% of scumhunters onsite!-
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I’m posting.In post 275, Prism wrote:Can you elaborate on what would hypothetically make this a masterpiece?I am in the top 90% of scumhunters onsite!-
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I’m probably should have but I didn’t realize you were meaning you specifically with it being unproductive. And my interest was more on mafmen than you.In post 223, the worst wrote:
i'm not really sure if there's any way for me to meaningfully evaluate my reads off this convoIn post 220, Tammy wrote:
That's fine! I change my mind a lot too, but why wouldn't getting people to talk about the reasoning for their reads and trying to determine if they're real or bs be productive?In post 217, the worst wrote:i'm like the king of declaring people cleared then changing my mind 30 seconds later and i still don't feel bad for treating wisdom as town until he makes me second guess myself.
this convo doesn't feel very productive
has it helped you read me at all?
It didn’t, no, but I do like this question to me at the end.I am in the top 90% of scumhunters onsite!-
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Do you think cookie cutter is town?In post 273, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:i'd be lowkey disappointed if the scum team was just infinity+klickI am in the top 90% of scumhunters onsite!-
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My tell on that was a work in progress anyway based on your interactions with nacho, chara and peta. I just expected a little grilling. I don’t think I’m an entirely easy read for you early game and probably not until I have some meat. You had a healthy bit of suspicion on me in warehouse 13 until I had my ranty ragish wall of reads.
Regardless I don’t have much in the way of reads to discuss. My post a few ago is basically where I’m at. I don’t have any real leans one way or the other and I expect the nature of this setup means I’ll be extra careful on my reads. Pooky is weirding me out a bit and I’m trying to determine if the pocket attempt is too overt or if that’s just pooky.I am in the top 90% of scumhunters onsite!-
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In post 290, Prism wrote:I guess part of my hesitation here is that so much of this is self-facing, and reacting to my wrong expectations to ameliorate me. There's no weaponization of the expectations you have for me, and that throws me. I was surprised to see you drop the explanation about my preference so quickly. It is a perceptive and clear divergence.
I'm not ameliorating you; I'm just existing. I mean maybe I am? But it's not purposeful. I expect you to question me and you are. I'm sorry if I'm being weird; I'm tired, don't feel all that great, and am in a bit of a weird headspace being here today. I don't know that without that if I'd be much different, maybe I'd have more energy I don't know. I don't think I'm being very off but maybe I am.In post 291, Prism wrote:Like I'm astounded that you took the preference seriously enough to remember it and you make the connection. No one else onsite evenremembersthe preference let alone uses it.
I'm not sure why you think I would weaponize any expectations I have of you right when the game begins considering I have a tendency to observe these things for a bit anyway. The preference that you're talking about might be a bigger thing to me if we were in a normal game. The game mechanic alone goes a long way in negating that very preference. In fact, even in asking it I didn't think it really mattered much because my two pieces were is prism doing the puffery thing or does the game mechanic negate it. As far as I'm concerned, that's something I can't differentiate as it stands right now because the game mechanic exists and your approach could be very different. I'm sure if I wanted to look solvey I could make a bigger deal out of it than it was, but I'm not scum and for me it was a passing thought that stuck out enough for me to ask but not make much of.I am in the top 90% of scumhunters onsite!-
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I'm not paranoid at all. Not yet. We're under 20 pages in the first 24 hours of the game, and nobody has done anything that to me reads very town for any decent reason. That's just how it goes sometimes.In post 298, Infinity 324 wrote:
imo you're being too paranoid. just because you've falsely cleared people for similar reasons in the past doesn't make them invalid.In post 276, Tammy wrote:Nope. I pretty much have a healthy dose of suspicion of everyone here right now.I am in the top 90% of scumhunters onsite!-
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I was in a very amused headspace!In post 310, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:Lady Tammy could you explain the feelings/headspace you were in when you made this following post?
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I was flattered that y'all were talking about me and whether or not I could be trusted such that you wanted to test it.In post 314, Tammy wrote:
I was in a very amused headspace!In post 310, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:Lady Tammy could you explain the feelings/headspace you were in when you made this following post?
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No I didn't think anyone would actually do it. It just amused me to kind of taunt you guys about it.In post 318, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:did you think I would trust you just because you asked?
I'm pockited but i'm not likethatpockitedyet
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cookie's posts felt a bit stilted at parts like the I'm watching you bit and the but how well do you know each other thing. Without more posts to see if that's just their natural tone and writing style though they're just mild pings.In post 321, MafMen wrote:
ebwopIn post 312, MafMen wrote:whats everyones read on cookie?
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In post 330, MafMen wrote:
hmm okay yeah i can see totally see how the tone there can ping somebodyIn post 325, Tammy wrote:
cookie's posts felt a bit stilted at parts like the I'm watching you bit and the but how well do you know each other thing. Without more posts to see if that's just their natural tone and writing style though they're just mild pings.In post 321, MafMen wrote:
ebwopIn post 312, MafMen wrote:whats everyones read on cookie?
i feel even with those 3 posts fae has* made some of the most ai posts yet
idk if im allowed to make a read like this but judging by faer join date i think it can get passed off as awkward newbie vocabulary
No, I think that's entirely fair. Could be a newbie awkwardness, could just be writing style in general, could be not having much to comment on, but I don't see the towniness off the bat that you guys see.I am in the top 90% of scumhunters onsite!-
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Which town read did you think fit that bill?In post 343, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:
I think when people use a reason to townread someone that's so convoluted/weird/notgreat that it's unlikely to be "faked" then it's probably just true.In post 336, Tammy wrote:No, I think that's entirely fair. Could be a newbie awkwardness, could just be writing style in general, could be not having much to comment on, but I don't see the towniness off the bat that you guys see.
scum tend to want their reasoning to be like "good"
And considering the possibility that cookie is not an alt and is rather new, do you really think that reasoning holds?
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In post 348, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:oh i was talking about the scumread on duckie lol
i think it applies even more for scumreads lol
This? The worst scum read is rather run of the mill, the kind that people and scum make all the time because it's an easy thing to point to in the thread and say I distrust this. The part of this that I do like is the tricking someone into an early omgus trust tell part. I liked it because it didn't really make all that much sense, nice infusion of attempting to interpret an action.In post 88, cool cookie wrote:'the worst' initial scumping for claiming to not know the rules on page 3, when they had been referenced a couple times already by that point - potentially tricking someone into an early OMGUS trust thing. and also repeated claims Enchant is town, with no reason given.
a couple mildest of mild townpings. Liked Pookythemagicalbears opening appeal, felt genuine and performative where scum might worry about seeming needy. nothing else for now but I'm watching you.
I didn't like the town read on you, mostly the performative part but giving a reason for why that was a mild town ping and then I didn't like the follow up but I'm watching you thing.
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