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oh no you got mafia didn't youIn post 22, Andante wrote:I'm scared!!! I already got 2 votes... noooo this really is a panic room... ahhhhhh
No I'm still engaging in the only good part of mafia, joking around in RVS, before my feelings inevitably turn to rage and self-loathing
Agreed, that was a really puzzling read off the two posts you'd made at the time. Want to hear an explanation from her on this.In post 150, Umlaut wrote:I don't understand how anyone can have any vibes on me whatsoever at this pointIn post 101, Bellaphant wrote:Skityer, hem and umlaut earlier town vibes.
caught
you've lost meIn post 180, Ydrasse wrote:imagine a world where people have the faith in me to believe that i dont like doing that sort of stuff and its in fact, really fucking distressing
I had a vague gut feeling and voted to see what would happen. Then she got angry over it. I could unvote but I didn't really want to reward her for doing that. So here we are.In post 194, humaneatingmonkey wrote:why is everyone voting ydrasse? am i missing anything?
I think it's a fairly wild misinterpretation of my play this game, which is not really apathetic or unmotivated, just quiet. I'm biding my time, in particular because I don't think the content generated so far is significantly alignment indicative for the most part.In post 236, humaneatingmonkey wrote:do you scumread the dont care vibeIn post 233, Prism wrote:I would like other people to join on cat. I thought his reaction to Andante was shit play, and I'm not inclined to let him get away with the demotivated/don't care card when it's in his toolkit. I'm fine letting the "not giving Prism attention" comment pass as a joke, but as a serious characterization it's misleading and dismissive.
???In post 297, Yeet wrote:fire is town, Andante is scum, Prism is probably town but still ??? Umlaut is town
Basically yeah, the scumreads on him feel more based on playstyle than anything. It is, granted, incredibly annoying, but that doesn't mean it's coming from scum. If I had to guess it's more toward the town side right now but that's a very forced read.In post 370, Umlaut wrote:I feel like Yeet is deliberately trying to play to a certain style and that'¢ why their posts seem so fake. I'd guess alt trying to play more flippantly or something like that. Not saying it makes them town but it makes them not someone you can scumread on tone
Okay fine, towny postIn post 374, Roden wrote:It's very angle shooty. Replace out after going VLA pings me. The slot was already getting scum read but wasn't going to be around to defend themself. If town or a Goon then it would be just be whatever, the wagon would probably dissipate anyway. But if you're the game ending role there's going to be a sense of responsibility and pressure to play well enough to not auto lose Day 1. So replacing out makes sense if you don't want to feel like you're letting your team down.In post 369, skitter30 wrote:What's giving u thay vibe? Or at least, why alpha zombie specifically?In post 365, Roden wrote:Kinda have a gut feeling that Fire is the venge bomb, or I guess Alpha Zombie with this flavor
Yeet's read on the slot also feels off. They're hard defending them on very little, but Fire is hard scum reading them back. It's a weird interaction that makes me think it's just damage control to give Fire better standing among the potential elim choices for the day. Yeet cuts off the Fire wagon before it can stabilize and starts taking the heat instead by making odd/chaotic posts. But because Fire is one of the first players voting Yeet and cased them early, it won't look bad for Fire in the case of a red Yeet flip. It would be reasonable to say Yeet is just trying to pocket Fire in that case.
Yes, this assumes a lot and I'm seeing associatives/pre-flipping two people way too early. But their interactions don't feel natural. Fire's case on Yeet comes out too hard and too fast, and Yeet isn't reacting to any of it and is just repeating "Fire town" over and over.
I never implied it was his first game?In post 379, fireisredsir wrote:this isn't yeet's first game, and i don't think this is accurateIn post 373, catboi wrote:Basically yeah, the scumreads on him feel more based on playstyle than anything. It is, granted, incredibly annoying, but that doesn't mean it's coming from scum. If I had to guess it's more toward the town side right now but that's a very forced read.In post 370, Umlaut wrote:I feel like Yeet is deliberately trying to play to a certain style and that'¢ why their posts seem so fake. I'd guess alt trying to play more flippantly or something like that. Not saying it makes them town but it makes them not someone you can scumread on tone
Based on...?In post 380, Yeet wrote:I keep feeling like catboi has tmi on people
In post 383, catboi wrote:Based on...?In post 380, Yeet wrote:I keep feeling like catboi has tmi on people
Okay. I found that post especially bothersome given that I've expressed almost no reads to this point. You had also already stated a scumread on me prior to those posts, so I'm skeptical that that was a genuine thought.In post 397, Yeet wrote:Just reading comprehension, I thought you said something and I had an impression that you had TMI on me and someone else, then I reskimmed your ISO afterwards to see if I could quote it, and found I was unable to find it. Hence my posts.
In post 429, humaneatingmonkey wrote:i haven't really figured out how the mechanics work
if we get lucky and hit bomb, is it game over for scum?
Should say this thought process occurred to me but the last time this was ran the mafia mostly did nothing and rolled over, gamma emerald hard defended his teammates as the bomb until the wagons became him vs his teammate at which point they were forced to bus.
This is a summary of his actions, but why does any of it particularly point to him being scum? I think his posts so far are fine. Entirely in line with what I've seen of his town play.In post 478, humaneatingmonkey wrote:nah i dont buy umlaut's progression
In post 436, humaneatingmonkey wrote:umlaut in his first post makes a big deal about me being having pings on me being scum, and then stays on his Yeet vote because "he's ridiculous". yeet wasn't that too ridiculous and this could be scum tmi'ing each other.
then umlaut joins ydrasse's wagon, sweeping catboi on his gutread. then he soft-defends yeet.
what's he doing?
1. Do you think I deliberately avoid a teammate in that way?In post 504, Aristeia wrote:re-read everything and my first guess for the team is fire - skitter - catboi
VOTE: fireisredsir
If you pull up skitter/catboi's isos - there's a marked lack of discussion of bella/fire's actual alignment despite engagement around the slot which feels susp.
Okay, but I don't think a difference in demeanor is necessarily alignment-indicative, and realistically you should know that. There can be other outside factors that influence someone's play like their general mood or a different gamestate. I had basically no opinion on Bellaphant - she gave some unexplained townreads, the one on Umlaut was puzzling, but I've seen townies give bizarre reads before. I wanted her to explain it more, but then she replced out. I have basically no read on fire so far. Their posts do not sway me either way.In post 539, Aristeia wrote:Fire Iso
his style here is a lot more proactive and decisive - here he feels more noncommital/careful/worried
Why is HEM scummy?In post 551, skitter30 wrote:Monkey - scummy
Cat - want to give him slightly longer to get motivated (this pass extends to ~eod1)
I put my vote there precisely to get him to answer, because I didn't like him evading the question. If was the first thing this game I found to be strongly suspicious and that overrides any sort of vague gut feeling I had prior to that point. To me, his explanations for his read both on me and on you feel like they were backfilled - like he started from a conclusion and then went back to find evidence to justify it, but the timeline for when he stated the reads and the posts he cites as reasons don't line up. Which makes me think they weren't real thoughts.In post 535, fireisredsir wrote:one action that felt strange to me was catboi's progression from 298 to 373 to 394. i got a feeling of him being under pressure to jump in and pick a side, which felt weird, because up to that point he seemed content to sit back and watch. im not sure what compelled him to vote there beyond putting pressure on yeet to answer his question, but something about it didn't feel right.
Can you cite examples of this? Because I lean toward town on him and don't really agree with this assessment.In post 558, skitter30 wrote:i feel like he's asking questions for the sake of asking questions and that they're not really leading anywhere
no umlaut neighborized hem without me consenting to it and then pushed the elim while I was afkIn post 808, fireisredsir wrote:i will forever regret not unvoting yeet and joining onto you
i really thought it was a bus though. im guessing ydrasse had been recruited already and so you just needed to push the lim through?
I townleaned him. I did not submit to making him the neighborize target because I wanted to form reads I was more confident in. I was not given the opportunity to do so.In post 813, skitter30 wrote:Ah hem made it sound like you both wanted toIn post 810, catboi wrote:no umlaut neighborized hem without me consenting to it and then pushed the elim while I was afkIn post 808, fireisredsir wrote:i will forever regret not unvoting yeet and joining onto you
i really thought it was a bus though. im guessing ydrasse had been recruited already and so you just needed to push the lim through?
would never have neighbored ydrasse
Aounds like u had good reads there tho
There were six days left to the deadline. It was absolutely unnecessary to do what he did at the time that he did and it accelerated the town into an automatic loss for no good reason. I said I wanted to research more. I was not given the opportunity.In post 817, humaneatingmonkey wrote:you townleaned me and there were no other options in the inoculated pt. i feel like umlaut had no other choice especially because yeet was inevitable for D1, and it's better to inoculate then rather than put it up to random chanceIn post 810, catboi wrote:no umlaut neighborized hem without me consenting to it
Eh. I wasn't really actively trying to sort you. I'm not going to front and say you played bad (you were the most convincing member of the scumteam imo), it just wasn't in my mind because it didn't feel like a worthwhile endeavor. Some of the stuff at the end of night might have been a little forced but that's only with the benefit of hindsight.In post 824, humaneatingmonkey wrote:That much is true.In post 821, catboi wrote:There were six days left to the deadline. It was absolutely unnecessary to do what he did at the time that he did and it accelerated the town into an automatic loss for no good reason. I said I wanted to research more. I was not given the opportunity.
How much were you scumreading me while we were talking N1?
You were the one who placed him at E-1 to begin with, which is what lead to the day getting cut short.In post 828, Umlaut wrote:Fuck. Sorry, everyone.
Given I got the (in retrospect terrible) Inocilation choice in just minutes before the elim I don't feel like "we had plenty of time" is really a reasonable complaint though. Wish I'd chosen better.