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More shade from Furtive on Bella but, unsurprisingly, he still won't vote her.In post 808, furtiveglance wrote: If you're not cult, I think BBT pairs with Jacket, so too does Bellaphant. They're the ones I remember insisting a venge claim must be prime and not get voted.
Bella has been extremely passive in allowing Furtive to scum read her all game and for him to do nothing about it as well. Like, she hasn't pushed him on the read once.
More shade on Bella.In post 809, furtiveglance wrote:
Yes, they go with Jacket and Korina. I don't think they go with BBT though.In post 760, Beat wrote:
Do you think Bella is part of the cult?In post 757, furtiveglance wrote:People are thinking about this game in the wrong way. CL is'n't necessarily someone widely townread, just someone who will never get voted because cultists refuse to vote for them.
More shade on Bella.In post 818, furtiveglance wrote:I think it's 2 of Bellaphant/BBT/Korina.
Wait, what? Where did Bella go?In post 949, furtiveglance wrote:The team is BBT/Jacket/Korina, with Jacket as Cult Leader.
With Enchant having the sole vote of the day Furtive simply couldn't risk having Bella in his pool. I would love an explanation for the sudden exclusion of Bella in his scum team.
At this point of the game it should have been obvious to Bella that the team was Jacket/Furtive/BBT but because she isn't actually trying to solve she doesn't realise. It's only when I post my solve that it dawns on her...In post 950, Bellaphant wrote:I need to re read a few people in iso. Beat/jacket made sense.
Jacket/furtive/??In post 952, Bellaphant wrote:I mean, those are my options with you swapped for me.
Why is Bella being Cult such a shock to Furtive here? He has literally been scum reading Bella all game long and he STILL wants to push Jacket over her. No reevaluation happened at all.In post 1034, furtiveglance wrote:Enchant is Governor.
Jacket/Nathann/RH9 claimed Vengeful.
Me/BBT/Bella claimed VT.
This means BBT/Bella are confirmed Cult. I need to re-evaluate things.Meta this. Meta that. Meta Everything. Meta is not a good scum-hunting tool. PEOPLE CAN MANIPULATE THEIR META. Stop it. Stop. It. Now.-
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Your selective response says everything I need it to my friend.
You have literally ignored everything other than something you felt you could respond to in a legitimate way.Meta this. Meta that. Meta Everything. Meta is not a good scum-hunting tool. PEOPLE CAN MANIPULATE THEIR META. Stop it. Stop. It. Now.-
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Nope.
You have shaded one Cult (CL) all game without pushing them (Bella)
You have shaded another Cult (Prime) all game and have pushed and pushed and pushed on them.
There is a huge difference in the way you treat the two slots.
Can you talk about how Bella magically dropped from your scum team when Enchant had the deciding vote?Meta this. Meta that. Meta Everything. Meta is not a good scum-hunting tool. PEOPLE CAN MANIPULATE THEIR META. Stop it. Stop. It. Now.-
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Umm, Furtive. You know myself and Bella are Cult, right? Why are you so concerned about my push on her?
Like, why does it bother you in anyway whatsoever? You haven't tried to understand my push, you haven't even considered Bella as CL from today. You have just started defending her. Why?Meta this. Meta that. Meta Everything. Meta is not a good scum-hunting tool. PEOPLE CAN MANIPULATE THEIR META. Stop it. Stop. It. Now.-
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Noticeably, when Bella hit 4 votes and was tied with Cat on D1 the people voting her were; Cat, Korina, Beat and Enchant.
Despite sussing Bella, Furtive was nowhere to be seen... Except for the counter wagon to Bella! He was voting Cat, forming a CW to a slot he had been sussing... Make sense?Meta this. Meta that. Meta Everything. Meta is not a good scum-hunting tool. PEOPLE CAN MANIPULATE THEIR META. Stop it. Stop. It. Now.-
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In post 350, furtiveglance wrote:Outside of vengeful claims I think Korina/Beat look Prime and Bella/Cat/Titus for Leader.
This is super fishy. The big change in stance on Bella as her wagon is forming.In post 447, furtiveglance wrote:That Bellaphant E-2 from Korina stands out to me as a culty move. I get the feeling Bella isn't CL based on the way some culty people are happy with this vote. I'm now convinced RH9 is a real vengeful, and agree that Cat.Jpeg is a better elimination.
UNVOTE: Nathann
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Frustration is NAIIn post 1104, Bellaphant wrote:Other than he has to be, my bullet pointed case is:
His frustration, as outlined above.
He never really raised his head above the parapet to get jacket Elimed, which he needed to do to win, so spent a lot of the game loudly telling people he was lost
Early game 100% supported that jacket's claim was legit
Pushed a bit on me and when I replied with a meta answer, let it be
Led all the town Lims
The 'set up '/self aware posts
I don't think he's prime becaus I think he would've played more recklessly. His whole approach to the game makes more sense if you read it through 'if bbt dies he loses'
Elimming Jacket is +EV for me as Cult Leader no? So why would I not push to elim him so we can recruit? (Like Furtive did)
How is supporting Jacket's claim scummy again? I mean, CL!BBT gets to recruit if he elims Jacket, so you're making no sense?
Again, how is this AI regarding pushing on you and then backing off?
Led all the town lims - sure, I take a lot of the blame for this.
Being self-aware isn't scummy either.
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You're right Enchant, I'm a little worried that Bella chose me to push today and not Furtive (making me have a nagging feeling that Furtive could be CL)/
But everything points to Bella so...
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I don't think so, I seem to remember Jacket pushing him? In order it's Bella, Furtive and then Jacket as most to least likely.
I'm pretty much certain it's Bella now though. It has to beMeta this. Meta that. Meta Everything. Meta is not a good scum-hunting tool. PEOPLE CAN MANIPULATE THEIR META. Stop it. Stop. It. Now.-
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In post 1064, BlueBloodedToffee wrote:
This confirms to me that Furtive or Bella are CL. I think it's likely to be Bella.In post 264, furtiveglance wrote:Here's a thought: What if CL decided to claim vengeful.
This is partly because I'm not over my RH9 sus.
Reading through ISOs now.In post 1066, BlueBloodedToffee wrote:In post 350, furtiveglance wrote:Outside of vengeful claims I think Korina/Beat look Prime and Bella/Cat/Titus for Leader.
Look how quickly Furtive managed to remove Bella from his CL pool here.In post 447, furtiveglance wrote:That Bellaphant E-2 from Korina stands out to me as a culty move. I get the feeling Bella isn't CL based on the way some culty people are happy with this vote.
ISO Furtive, Jacket and Bella together. Furtive and Jacket are consistently throwing shade at each other but neither of them show any *real* interest in pushing Bella despite mentioning her name a couple of times as an option.In post 384, Jacket wrote: I could go for Bella or cat, I don't necessarily want to vote Titus because she doesn't seem like she's even trying to look town. I'd also vote furtive, his posts have really taken a nosedive for me.
It's Bella.In post 1070, BlueBloodedToffee wrote:
Nice reevaluation.In post 1034, furtiveglance wrote:Enchant is Governor.
Jacket/Nathann/RH9 claimed Vengeful.
Me/BBT/Bella claimed VT.
This means BBT/Bella are confirmed Cult. I need to re-evaluate things.In post 1076, BlueBloodedToffee wrote:
More shade from Furtive on Bella but, unsurprisingly, he still won't vote her.In post 808, furtiveglance wrote: If you're not cult, I think BBT pairs with Jacket, so too does Bellaphant. They're the ones I remember insisting a venge claim must be prime and not get voted.
Bella has been extremely passive in allowing Furtive to scum read her all game and for him to do nothing about it as well. Like, she hasn't pushed him on the read once.
More shade on Bella.In post 809, furtiveglance wrote:
Yes, they go with Jacket and Korina. I don't think they go with BBT though.In post 760, Beat wrote:
Do you think Bella is part of the cult?In post 757, furtiveglance wrote:People are thinking about this game in the wrong way. CL is'n't necessarily someone widely townread, just someone who will never get voted because cultists refuse to vote for them.
More shade on Bella.In post 818, furtiveglance wrote:I think it's 2 of Bellaphant/BBT/Korina.
Wait, what? Where did Bella go?In post 949, furtiveglance wrote:The team is BBT/Jacket/Korina, with Jacket as Cult Leader.
With Enchant having the sole vote of the day Furtive simply couldn't risk having Bella in his pool. I would love an explanation for the sudden exclusion of Bella in his scum team.
At this point of the game it should have been obvious to Bella that the team was Jacket/Furtive/BBT but because she isn't actually trying to solve she doesn't realise. It's only when I post my solve that it dawns on her...In post 950, Bellaphant wrote:I need to re read a few people in iso. Beat/jacket made sense.
Jacket/furtive/??In post 952, Bellaphant wrote:I mean, those are my options with you swapped for me.
Why is Bella being Cult such a shock to Furtive here? He has literally been scum reading Bella all game long and he STILL wants to push Jacket over her. No reevaluation happened at all.In post 1034, furtiveglance wrote:Enchant is Governor.
Jacket/Nathann/RH9 claimed Vengeful.
Me/BBT/Bella claimed VT.
This means BBT/Bella are confirmed Cult. I need to re-evaluate things.In post 1086, BlueBloodedToffee wrote:Nope.
You have shaded one Cult (CL) all game without pushing them (Bella)
You have shaded another Cult (Prime) all game and have pushed and pushed and pushed on them.
There is a huge difference in the way you treat the two slots.
Can you talk about how Bella magically dropped from your scum team when Enchant had the deciding vote?In post 1089, BlueBloodedToffee wrote:But I was in both your scum teams, silly.
Why did Bella get removed from it?In post 1090, BlueBloodedToffee wrote:Umm, Furtive. You know myself and Bella are Cult, right? Why are you so concerned about my push on her?
Like, why does it bother you in anyway whatsoever? You haven't tried to understand my push, you haven't even considered Bella as CL from today. You have just started defending her. Why?In post 1093, BlueBloodedToffee wrote:Oh, I am?
Why is it you haven't even considered CL Bella? Despite sussing her all game long?In post 1094, BlueBloodedToffee wrote:Why did Bella get removed from your scum team on the day Enchant had the deciding vote?In post 1098, BlueBloodedToffee wrote:Noticeably, when Bella hit 4 votes and was tied with Cat on D1 the people voting her were; Cat, Korina, Beat and Enchant.
Despite sussing Bella, Furtive was nowhere to be seen... Except for the counter wagon to Bella! He was voting Cat, forming a CW to a slot he had been sussing... Make sense?In post 1099, BlueBloodedToffee wrote:In post 350, furtiveglance wrote:Outside of vengeful claims I think Korina/Beat look Prime and Bella/Cat/Titus for Leader.
This is super fishy. The big change in stance on Bella as her wagon is forming.In post 447, furtiveglance wrote:That Bellaphant E-2 from Korina stands out to me as a culty move. I get the feeling Bella isn't CL based on the way some culty people are happy with this vote. I'm now convinced RH9 is a real vengeful, and agree that Cat.Jpeg is a better elimination.
UNVOTE: Nathann
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RH9, if Bella was Prime, we would have lost.
She isn't prime. If she was prime, my vote, plus Bella self-vote plus two two other Cult votes mean we lose.
She cannot be Prime.Meta this. Meta that. Meta Everything. Meta is not a good scum-hunting tool. PEOPLE CAN MANIPULATE THEIR META. Stop it. Stop. It. Now.-
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Bella, I refuted your entire case
If you could explain WHY the things you said make me scum, instead of just a narrative of what I did, I'm sure everyone would appreciate that.Meta this. Meta that. Meta Everything. Meta is not a good scum-hunting tool. PEOPLE CAN MANIPULATE THEIR META. Stop it. Stop. It. Now.-
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That vote also tells you that this post is a lie and you can be almost CERTAIN that Jacket is not CLIn post 1154, furtiveglance wrote: It was completely safe to vote Jacket at that time. Because the narrative had been bought and sold that Leader would never claim Vengeful. You've ruled me out as Cult Leader. If I was a Jester role, I would have got voted day 1 or 2, I'm great at getting voted. You must know I'm town, and Jacket is CL.Meta this. Meta that. Meta Everything. Meta is not a good scum-hunting tool. PEOPLE CAN MANIPULATE THEIR META. Stop it. Stop. It. Now.-
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In addition to this, scum!Furtive played really well as well, right Bella? You didn't suspect him for pretty much all of the game either.In post 1168, Bellaphant wrote:Rh9, it's hard because I think bbt did really well - if he didn't have to be scum I'd be struggling to vote him, but knowing what I know some of his actions look very different, if that makes sense?
He was shading you all game as well and you never questioned it at all. He also never pushed it so much as to vote you or actively try to get other people to vote you.
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In post 818, furtiveglance wrote:I think it's 2 of Bellaphant/BBT/Korina.
Like, you KNOW Furtive is scum now.In post 949, furtiveglance wrote:The team is BBT/Jacket/Korina, with Jacket as Cult Leader.
And he went from the first lim pool to the second with no explanation at all when it came to Enchant making the deciding vote.
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In post 1099, BlueBloodedToffee wrote:In post 350, furtiveglance wrote:Outside of vengeful claims I think Korina/Beat look Prime and Bella/Cat/Titus for Leader.
This is super fishy. The big change in stance on Bella as her wagon is forming.In post 447, furtiveglance wrote:That Bellaphant E-2 from Korina stands out to me as a culty move. I get the feeling Bella isn't CL based on the way some culty people are happy with this vote. I'm now convinced RH9 is a real vengeful, and agree that Cat.Jpeg is a better elimination.
UNVOTE: Nathann
You KNOW Furtive is scum now.
Why doesn't he elim Town!Bella or even Prime!Bella?
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Again, read this again now that you KNOW Furtive is scum.In post 1098, BlueBloodedToffee wrote:Noticeably, when Bella hit 4 votes and was tied with Cat on D1 the people voting her were; Cat, Korina, Beat and Enchant.
Despite sussing Bella, Furtive was nowhere to be seen... Except for the counter wagon to Bella! He was voting Cat, forming a CW to a slot he had been sussing... Make sense?Meta this. Meta that. Meta Everything. Meta is not a good scum-hunting tool. PEOPLE CAN MANIPULATE THEIR META. Stop it. Stop. It. Now.-
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In post 168, furtiveglance wrote: Bellaphant voting for Cat is an interesting one, no one else has joined. Bellaphant has just made some bland statements so farIn post 350, furtiveglance wrote:Outside of vengeful claims I think Korina/Beat look Prime and Bella/Cat/Titus for Leader.In post 654, furtiveglance wrote:Bellaphant and Nathann are also looking opportunistic. RH9 just looks really agreeable, and I'm sure he's town.In post 808, furtiveglance wrote:
If you're not cult, I think BBT pairs with Jacket, so too does Bellaphant.In post 758, Korina wrote:So who are the cultists then