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VOTE: fireisred

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That there at 7 VTs, 3 masons and 3 mafia...maybe.

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That there at 7 VTs, 3 masons and 3 mafia...maybe.

sheeping andante first on her vote and then on this post? pocket attempt spotted

I wouldn't have it any other way.

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That there at 7 VTs, 3 masons and 3 mafia...maybe.

sheeping andante first on her vote and then on this post? pocket attempt spotted

also entered with a cute penguin gif... "agreeing" with me by saying what I say? sounds like lock town to me!!!

See...it's already working.

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why are there two pages

VOTE: implosion

why is there a vote on you?

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wait I wrote the wrong name oops

VOTE: VP Baltar

nah, you had it right

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why are there two pages

VOTE: implosion

why is there a vote on you?

very aesthetic that you quote my post asking about why there are two pages with exactly twice my post number

yw

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wait I wrote the wrong name oops

VOTE: VP Baltar

nah, you had it right

is implosion scum?

implosion is always scum

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wait I wrote the wrong name oops

VOTE: VP Baltar

nah, you had it right

is implosion scum?

implosion is always scum

what about in this game? serious question

do...do you actually think that i was serious?

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UNVOTE:
also, implosion is picking up votes too quickly, I'm scared of like limming whoever so fast

- yeah fire seems maffy

mmmm

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VOTE: fire

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I was 0.01% serious

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vote fire then

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wagons are fun though

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He's famously tightlipped as both alignments

I've heard that he's gone entire years without voting

Who are you?

s_s is very frustrating to me because he famously (infamously?) does not vote d1. unless that's changed in my absence.

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my brain is pretty wiped so I'm gonna read up tomorrow

oh hai

nice pagetop

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my brain is pretty wiped so I'm gonna read up tomorrow

oh hai

nice pagetop

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oof - hate the wagon ditching

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wanna wagon fire/will wagon implo

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I don't wanna wagon implo. You suss there?

I will always wagon implo

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penguin wants a wagon?
VOTE: Penguin

one vote is not a wagon, do better.

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AHHHHHHHHH

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6 seconds....dammit

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He's famously tightlipped as both alignments

I've heard that he's gone entire years without voting

Who are you?

s_s is very frustrating to me because he famously (infamously?) does not vote d1. unless that's changed in my absence.

that question seems too deep for the scope of this game but I think it's townie of you to ask it

mmmmm

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sorry - thought i set a weekend v/la

i iz here.

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Maybe I need to take notes from Penguin on how to play maf... post a penguin gif and call it a game...

i mean - yeah. more people should take notes from aquatic birds on how to play mafia.

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VOTE: vulture

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no competing wagons based on the last votecount

now there is small competing wagons

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but...she says nice things about me

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you could join on vulture and make it an even bigger wagon

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GeorgeBailey, Gamma Emerald, Malakittens, hutmeil, Something_Smart, implosion. PenguinPower, Vulture
Are all the people I want more actual content from, like, I don't see yall taking stances, doing too much in the reads department, like sure recently a few got better.. but when 8/13 people aren't doing much of anything to even LOOK towny? like, what do the rest of us do?

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Actually eh I'm maybe willing to softly call S_S town too.

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Penguin, instead of reads from you, what about a gif describing your reads on people? like, can we get 3-4 "reads" please?

You have done the one thing that hasn't been done in a long time...appeal to my title.

For you, I will do it.

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1. VP Baltar
   
   
2. Datisi
   
   
3. Aristeia
   
   
4. GeorgeBailey
   
   
5. Gamma Emerald
   
   
6. Malakittens
   
   
7. hutmeil
   
   
8. fireisredsir
   
   
9. Something_Smart
   
   
10. implosion
    
    
11. PenguinPower
    
    
12. Vulture
    
    
13. Andante
    

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I should make a gif list

gif list™

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gif list™

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why?

i think it's kinda obvious - but i'm not sure how i feel about you. I didn't want to keep using question mark gifs...gotta change it up.

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i understood what the gif meant, i was hoping to hear an elaboration on that >_>

uh....no. we've played together before, I'm not sure why you expecting that.

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unless your shtick is "i refuse to talk about my reads on d1", which, rude.

this isn't a new thing unless i catch something worth hammering on.....

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I'm curious if Penguin has thoughts on the pace of the game; I remember him generally being more involved/pushy and he's indicated a desire to have bigger wagons but he's not really making a sustained effort to fulfill that end.

mmm? if you recall, i like wagons for a specific reason that require fairly frequent votecounts. we're about to hit 1000 with 3....so i guess too fast?

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there have been so many votes that i don't know what the wagons are rn....

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there have been so many votes that i don't know what the wagons are rn....

Andante is the only scum wagon. Get on this now and I'll forgive you tomorrow

Still have positive vibes, but I really do enjoy my d1 mod-approved vote counts.

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VOTE: hutmeil

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The hutmeil wagon gives me majorly bad vibes as being too easy.

mmm? it's one more than fire and one less than where mala was...

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The hutmeil wagon gives me majorly bad vibes as being too easy.

mmm? it's one more than fire and one less than where mala was...

I can see momentum lazily shifting that way. I'm just calling it out before it takes off as a wagon of resignation.

Your vote seems bad to me especially.

seems weird to call something too easy before it actually happens....

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I'm curious if Penguin has thoughts on the pace of the game; I remember him generally being more involved/pushy and he's indicated a desire to have bigger wagons but he's not really making a sustained effort to fulfill that end.

mmm? if you recall, i like wagons for a specific reason that require fairly frequent votecounts. we're about to hit 1000 with 3....so i guess too fast?

What's your specific reason for liking the hutmeil wagon?

i don't have one. I like wagons.

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if I think it's a bad wagon on a newbie, why is it weird?

because that's not what you said. you said you thought it was too easy...then said you were premptively calling it too easy because you thought momentum was shifting that way.

now you say it's a bad wagon.

can't read your mind

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a no read from 300 posts ago and voting someone who i don't have a townread on is the definition of a bad wagon

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if I think it's a bad wagon on a newbie, why is it weird?

because that's not what you said. you said you thought it was too easy...then said you were premptively calling it too easy because you thought momentum was shifting that way.

now you say it's a bad wagon.

can't read your mind

What do you think is the substantive difference between "too easy" and "bad". You're arguing pointless semantics here.

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i have almost zero strong reads day 1 and there are precious few people who i won't vote in the name of getting wagons going and seeing how they rise and fall.

what's telling to me so far is that we have yet to have one serious wagon though i guess you could maybe kinda sorta call mala's wagon one.

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Are those people town now to you?

i have almost zero strong reads day 1

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@Penguin what is your fire read?

would wagon

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idk - saw his post at the top of the page and didn't really like how all his scum reads are due to lurking

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Mala was at 3 when I voted hut. Ari had voted fire. I went from a 2 vote to create an equal counter wagon.

Anyway - I’ll be back in the morning to catch up on what I’ve missed.

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atp I'm basically waiting for Penguin to show up and post something

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VOTE: mala

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pop

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VOTE: penguin e-1

If I had a vote available, I'd be hammering right now after that pop in

this

i don't like accusing people if being gone for in-game reasons when it can be because of out of game reasons, but seeing he's present, the avoidance and minimal posting is kinda looking like antispew

not really avoiding - resigned more like it. at the end of the day, i got what i wanted with wagons though i won't be around to analyze it.

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and while competing wagons closed to deadline can be good, the fact that one is lead by the penguin is. uh. y'know. kinda concerning.

um - try and read up.

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Peng do you have like last reads or something to share that we can use later or do you just not care anymore?

I do - but I kinda want to wait and see something first. If it doesn't happen prior to the (expired on 2022-07-05 19:30:00) mark, I'll post them regardless.

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Mala was at 3 when I voted hut. Ari had voted fire. I went from a 2 vote to create an equal counter wagon.

Anyway - I’ll be back in the morning to catch up on what I’ve missed.

Coming back to this with what I wanted to say since you didn't actually follow up: Why did you want to create an equal counter wagon instead of making a wagon on Mala (who you now think is scum I guess???) the lead wagon?

i like competing wagons for looking back on after a flip. seeing how they rise/fall, which one takes off, and how hard it is to get momentum on is good info.

e.g.

no competing wagons based on the last votecount

now there is small competing wagons

i've already said i don't have any strong reads - but i find how hard mala is to make a sufficient wagon on vs. me or hut is telling. look back on that d2+.

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i'm read up. have you done anything yet?

i understood what the gif meant, i was hoping to hear an elaboration on that >_>

uh....no. we've played together before, I'm not sure why you expecting that.

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If you make a post indicating that the game is having a negative impact on your out of game relationships or well being, you will be warned or forcibly replaced, depending on severity. If you believe the game is having a negative impact on your life, send me a PM rather than posting about it in the game thread.

I didn’t notice this until reading Datisi’s notes PT
This wasn’t a problem this game but my dad loves to breathe down my neck about my mafia hobby because sometimes I get audibly frustrated. He refuses to let me be in these scenarios and forces to explain and then he bitches about how I should stop playing. So this rule feels a bit over-limiting since with how my dad is there’s a ridiculously thin line between where games do not and do adversely affect my rl.

I empathize with your situation, but it doesn't necessitate posting in the game thread which is what catboi is going for here. Privately send a PM to the mod, post in a private notes PT, or don't reference it at all.

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Why i need to wait or something, just because i am known to hammer? To not pissoff people who writed HOLY META? Bah, i don't care. If breaking meta helps me win, i break them. Stop being so serious about your holy meta, what i can say.

No. It's to respect the other players in the game who have dedicated a lot of their own time to playing the game.

There is a difference between being known as a "lolhammerer" as a playstyle, and being one who joins a game only to immediately hammer without consideration for the rest of the players of the game.

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ggs town. nice work fire and Enchant for not giving into wifom at the end.

ggs scum because I still love you all.

echoing this. I was vry bad this game so I appreciate my scumteam to taking it to f3.

enjoyed the playerslist and thanks to catboi for running.