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Yeah honestly I think our objective here is to figure out who the CL is and make sure they are executed today.
Also make sure to remember that the second cult member might try and save their CL today cause if they don’t they would have a low chance of winning.
My suggestion is to make sure if your town reading someone not to blindly sheep their town reads (I never do) but cause like they could be the second cultist trying to make their CL look good so make sure you have valid reasons for each of your Townreads.-
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I can see Meg, I didn’t like Gamma’s vote on you.In post 57, Elements wrote:I think MegAzumarill and Gamma Emerald are just town-
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In post 72, Roden wrote:Fred looks like he's having fun, probably town just because he's staying active while not making a big deal out of the slow game activity
Drapion, do you think Gamma is the CL? Or is it just a general scum read?
More of a general wolf read. Could be CL could be other Cult.In post 72, Roden wrote:Fred looks like he's having fun, probably town just because he's staying active while not making a big deal out of the slow game activity
Drapion, do you think Gamma is the CL? Or is it just a general scum read?
He was also the first player to cast suspicion and I don’t really like how he did it with the vote and saying that elements vote was bad.
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I mean I think the only argument against my wolf read is maybe this?In post 39, Gamma Emerald wrote:It feels OMGUSy, like you have a problem with Roden questioning your unvote
Since I could see this being a genuine reason someone can think from a town perspective but at the time I felt the push was a bit opportunist.
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I mean I don't directly town read you it’s more like if I had to gut guess I’d say your Rand Town from how you have approached the game so far.In post 78, MegAzumarill wrote:
Why do you see me as town here?In post 71, ProfessorDrapion wrote:
I can see Meg, I didn’t like Gamma’s vote on you.In post 57, Elements wrote:I think MegAzumarill and Gamma Emerald are just town-
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Well I haven’t got any bad vibes from them and the posts I have seemed from them look more Rand Town.In post 83, Gamma Emerald wrote:
The fuck does this mean?In post 82, ProfessorDrapion wrote:
I mean I don't directly town read you it’s more like if I had to gut guess I’d say your Rand Town from how you have approached the game so far.In post 78, MegAzumarill wrote:
Why do you see me as town here?In post 71, ProfessorDrapion wrote:
I can see Meg, I didn’t like Gamma’s vote on you.In post 57, Elements wrote:I think MegAzumarill and Gamma Emerald are just town
Like them helping when talking about NotKnown (even though it’s still a meme vote) and then their take with mechanic talk plus also they questioned Elements vote that didn’t look opportunistic or agenda like but rather just a genuine question.-
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I mean there play is not wolfy, I provided the reasons that make them Townie and yeah I’m not super confident in the case to hard town read them but it’s probably my strongest town read that I have. (They are also a Pokémon )In post 89, Gamma Emerald wrote:Yeah please don’t
I have learned that being lackadaisical about imprecise wording is a recipe for disaster.
And it sounds like trying to act like her play isn’t towny but there’s other reasons to TR her, which lets you go back on them potentially.
Also I’ll say things the way I chose to say it if you would like me to restate it using different words I will but do not criticize my word/words choice I will not kinder to you.-
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I do actually like Elements too but nothing that makes me say “yeah this is town”
But I do think Gamma/Elements are not both aligned together so if Gamma flips wolf then I think Elements is just town.
Although I guess if Gamma isn’t the CL then the CL could convert Elements and no longer make them town but my point is I don’t think they are ever starting wolves.-
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How so?In post 93, Roden wrote:You seem very careful this game, Drapion. Like your tone feels more controlled than usual.-
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“Hedging” wdym by this?
I don’t really like your questioning this game tbh.
I believe I explained myself really well and here you go again,
you feel like an opportunistic wolf who is trying to just question, vote and push people.
I’d like an elaboration from you.
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Not really?In post 102, Roden wrote:
In other games you typically feel off the cuff with the way you speak and play. Here you seem like you're putting in an effort to consider your words and appear succinct so there isn't any room to misunderstand you.In post 95, ProfessorDrapion wrote:
How so?In post 93, Roden wrote:You seem very careful this game, Drapion. Like your tone feels more controlled than usual.
My initial thought was "maybe he's a town PR and I shouldn't mention it yet," but I don't think you're careful as a PR either. Do you think you're posting any differently than usual?
What’s the difference between this game and the micro game I had where I Vigi shot both wolves?-
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In post 101, Not Known 15 wrote:1. No early RVS votes.
2.Post 55 with "honest"
3. 74 hedges a lot. So does 82. And 92.
4. 96 looks more like a wolf wanting to get reasons for a wolfread to attack someone("word for word")
Yeah I’ll admit it. I didn’t do an RVS vote.In post 101, Not Known 15 wrote:1. No early RVS votes.
2.Post 55 with "honest"
3. 74 hedges a lot. So does 82. And 92.
4. 96 looks more like a wolf wanting to get reasons for a wolfread to attack someone("word for word")
I don’t always do it but I do like to do it so I’ll accept that.
“honest” I have used this words before, y’all please stop nitpicking on my words lmao.
What does Hedge mean again? How am I doing it exactly?
In regards to Post 96 I don’t want to allow someone who I believe is a potential wolf to start throwing shit at me freely so I’m making sure they are providing thoughts as well cause town has genuine thoughts and wolf doesn’t so I can potentially catch them if I’m lucky.
All I have seen from them is more questions and pushes then a casual thought process, maybe I’m being bias but I don’t see much genuineness from Gamma.
Also it’s funny cause you use RVS as a reason yet if I’m not mistaken Gamma’s first vote was a serious one on Elements and the first serious vote I believe.-
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I’m presuming you Null Scum read me?In post 103, MegAzumarill wrote:Drapion looks noncommittal here on read on me but I don't think I'd expect town here to be completely commited.
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I do like this prospective.In post 138, MegAzumarill wrote:I think Gamma is town. This reads as solving much more than aggressive scum to me here.
I think there's a decent chance of scum in Roden/ Not Known. I don't like the way they handeled Gamma's push on Drapion. It felt like trying to stay off the wagon yet fuel it (implication is that Drapion is scum for playing differently than a town game) in Roden's case. In Not Known's case they seem to be on the wagon and supporting it but backing away from being a major voice there or elsewhere.
That me and Gamma might be TvT and the wolves are trying to hype it up but still stay off of it. (Although Not Known is voting me.)
I still believe Gamma is a wolf I still don’t really like them so far but it’s not half way through the day I don’t think so Gamma should do more stuff I can look at and see if my read on them increases or decreases depending on it.-
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Do you town read Not Known as well?In post 149, Gamma Emerald wrote:I do think roden is town tho-
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Yeah I think you have allot of bias cause I don’t remember you town reading anyone else other then those 2 that you just stated which makes me more sus of you cause as a wolf your reads wouldn’t be genuine. Like as a wolf what your doing here is your town reading the players who are agreeing with you on pushing the town (in this sense me) cause you can’t make a genuine read outside of the town your trying to push.In post 151, Gamma Emerald wrote:a little bit? I think his scum meta is kinda blatant and it doesn't feel like he's playing to it
I may have some bias tho
Like you stated a wolf read on Elements, you barley stated a read on Meg from what I’m aware of and have you stated your thoughts in regards to players like Mala, Fredrick or Hut?-
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Yeah cause your NK15 is bias.In post 155, Gamma Emerald wrote:my NK15 read is also meta
there a reason you're only saying it here?
Cause they are pushing the town (me) with you and you are wolf that can’t make genuine reads.-
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I’m personally not a fan of meta reads but I don’t have an issue of someone providing meta.In post 160, Gamma Emerald wrote:
zzzzIn post 158, ProfessorDrapion wrote:
Yeah cause your NK15 is bias.In post 155, Gamma Emerald wrote:my NK15 read is also meta
there a reason you're only saying it here?
Cause they are pushing the town (me) with you and you are wolf that can’t make genuine reads.
My thinking is my hutmeil read breaks your narrative so you have to shade it by calling it meta
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What’s off about my push on Gamma exactly?In post 161, MegAzumarill wrote:Drapion feels.... weirdly tunneled here. I don't think scum!drapion does this here in a vacuum (especially CL!drapion), but this push feels too off to me for me to call it town.
Drapion is there some context here I might be missing for your Gamma read?
Do you not think I bring up good points for my push?-
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Like Math why are you trying to insist on me being voted.
Roden has also shown sus on me.
I mean I kinda get what your saying that Meg hasn’t really made it clear on their read towards me. (Even though I’m pretty sure they wolf read me) but saying “oh you should have voted this” is just bad it seems like your trying to get others to vote on me without stating a wolf read on me so you don’t look bad when I go over and to help out your partner Gamma who’s currently pushing me and is top wagon.-
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It does make sense.In post 213, Roden wrote:VOTE: Drapion
Last few posts just look like an intimidation tactic. Warning someone that you'll vote them if they do a certain thing doesn't really make any sense from a town perspective. Why let your suspect know how to avoid getting scum read if you actually think they're scum?
To me if they do it they would be an obvious wolf or very likely.
“Avoid getting scum read” “think they are scum” if it’s the same thing how is it being avoided?
And I don’t entirely scum read Math I just think they can be aligned with Gamma here and is making some kind of wolf play.
Idk, if this is your only reasoning that you have now decided to of voted me can you tell me what prevented you before? Was it just that you thought Math was more wolfier like I think you mentioned before or was there something else with it like something in regards to my posts.-
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Why?In post 219, MathBlade wrote:Hell you could even assume I am scum and Gamma town
But both of us together is an illogical assumption.
I already explained how it makes sense.-
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There doesn’t need to be blatant evidence you two are aligned, you can look at partner associations simply based on actions.
The way you have chosen to go about the thread was to me a way to get players to vote me without wanting to start a scum read on me yourself cause Gamma already has put one on me.
Remind me Math, why do you town read me again?
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No I’m applying what scum do and where scum is and how you have approached this game so far has good partner equity with Gamma if they are cult, which I believe they are.In post 223, MathBlade wrote:You’re arguing what you’d do as scum and then applying it out versus who is scum.
I don’t judge others by if they play as scum me
I judge them if they aren’t being Townie.
“Townie” to me is someone who I don’t see any wolf motivation from and is looking like an obvious execution that wolves want, and other similar stuff in this regard.
Doesn’t matter how much you post or how good you sound, it doesn’t tell us anything about alignment.
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“A week meta town read”In post 225, MathBlade wrote:
It is simply a meta read yes.In post 222, ProfessorDrapion wrote:There doesn’t need to be blatant evidence you two are aligned, you can look at partner associations simply based on actions.
The way you have chosen to go about the thread was to me a way to get players to vote me without wanting to start a scum read on me yourself cause Gamma already has put one on me.
Remind me Math, why do you town read me again?
Meta read or?
Your first sentence is contradictory. Partner associations is evidence.
I haven’t chosen to get them to vote you because of you. I have chosen them because two fold
1) Cooperating with townreads
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2) Making scum commit to something.
The fact it is you is of no consequence.
If Gamma and you were swapped I would make the same.
It’s purely a strategic notion.
I TR your wagon. Ergo if I am wrong then letting it go through is fine as it’s just a weak meta TR. I could be wrong. It’s not as strong as my Gamma TR but I have known Gamma a long time.
I find it much more valuable to attract attention and force players like Meg and Elements to vote
And those that vote me explain their read with more than inactive.
Kinda like Gamma’s one on your slot he stated.
Yeah I don’t like that, don’t read me on it.
Find a different reason to town read me or do the opposite and vote me.
I will share my thoughts before I die and I will still try to fight for my life but you better believe if I get ML’ed here I’m going to take a wolf down with me, I just won’t be alive to do so.-
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Basically.In post 292, MegAzumarill wrote:
Why do you townread Elements? Just because they don't look partnered with gamma?In post 291, ProfessorDrapion wrote:Hmm what If I'm wrong on Meg.
I could see them with Gamma.
Heck I could see everyone with Gamma except for Elements.
I like Elements, they are my top town.
I didn’t like how Gamma went on Elements and I also liked how Elements handled Gamma.-
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^^^^In post 309, Gamma Emerald wrote:VOTE: frederick e campbell
ok this is actually scum
mala vote is cheap, sus on me is cheap too
Wolf mad that someone is resisting the ML on me.
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Yeah honestly I can see it from how Math has went about me and how he brought up Gamma, and the town read, plus indirectly trying to get players to vote for me.In post 310, Elements wrote:
Makes me think math could be CLIn post 309, Gamma Emerald wrote:VOTE: frederick e campbell
ok this is actually scum
mala vote is cheap, sus on me is cheap too
Yeah that could actually be CL and Gamma is trying to save it.
Yeah I hope this flips CL so I can just bury Gamma tomorrow.
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Wasn’t it Math being like “I could see one of Drapion’s voters after Gamma being a wolf”
or am I mistaken?
Then this dude is like “If Meg is town it’s probably Drapion”
Like TF? Like a town doesn’t say it could be so and so voters and then say it’s just them.
I mean I could see Math trying to ML Meg, ML me and then ML Elements or one of my voters that isn’t Gamma.
The dude has a perfect ML setup here.-
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Hmm I really don’t think Gamma is town but if they are I’d have to re-evaluate here.In post 329, MegAzumarill wrote:
@DrapionIn post 323, MegAzumarill wrote:
No that was meIn post 319, ProfessorDrapion wrote:Wasn’t it Math being like “I could see one of Drapion’s voters after Gamma being a wolf”
or am I mistaken?
Then this dude is like “If Meg is town it’s probably Drapion”
Like TF? Like a town doesn’t say it could be so and so voters and then say it’s just them.
I mean I could see Math trying to ML Meg, ML me and then ML Elements or one of my voters that isn’t Gamma.
The dude has a perfect ML setup here.
Could do me a favor and consider the world where Gamma gets vig shot right now and flips town. Who's scum then?-
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So wait.In post 330, Roden wrote:Math isn't scum. Whenever he's polarizing like this it usually means he's town. I know that he can emulate it as scum as well, but I don't think he claims VT and intentionally avoids playing to survive here if so.
Who’s your town reads exactly?
Math and Gamma?
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In post 309, Gamma Emerald wrote:VOTE: frederick e campbell
ok this is actually scum
mala vote is cheap, sus on me is cheap tooIn post 302, Fredrick A Campbell wrote:I think this player has the highest chance of being mafia by virtue of post count and content of 伊's posts.
VOTE: Malakittens
Spoiler: What is 伊In post 309, Gamma Emerald wrote:VOTE: frederick e campbell
ok this is actually scum
mala vote is cheap, sus on me is cheap tooYou know what Meg to answer your question In a world where
SomehowGamma is Town.
I could see Mala unvoting here cause Gamma has backed them up indirectly.-
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I mean why do you believe Math would always vote me here.In post 335, Roden wrote:
Why wouldn't he follow me on Drapion then? If he's CL it would be the best play for him. If I'm wrong on Drapion then it makes me look bad and I can be pushed tomorrow. If I'm right then he has me pocketed.In post 331, MegAzumarill wrote:CL Math has to claim VT here so I don't think the claim is AI
Granted...he would know I'm cautious around him and that I would look out for a potential pocket. If he's scum then he would try to play around me like he has in past games.
If I had one thing I would say concerns me. It's that he isn't trying that hard to convince me to vote with him.
Like I already explained to you how they wouldn’t.
Like if Gamma is the Cult Member that isn’t the CL and is voting me, Math doesn’t want to also vote me, Math as the CL wants to distances away from me while still trying to indirectly have others vote me like you and Meg and you have done so.-
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Like for example, math got what they wanted and they are CL.
I am executed.
Gamma, Not Known, Roden, Meg and whoever else that isn’t Math votes me off.
Math distanced off the wagon so they won’t look bad from me flipping town.
Math distanced away from voting with Gamma they wouldn’t both be going over and they can sacrifice Gamma if need be.-
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