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especially Aubrey/Furtive"Que será, será. Whatever will be, will be."
"listen i know its funny to say shirou is scum but shirou is just literally crazy"~Firebringer on town!Shirou
"Not if it was Volpe's PLAN all along that we lim him and when he flips red we think Wooper is scum"~town!Norwee jokes about scum!Shirou's actual plan
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yesIn post 2213, Toto wrote:In post 2208, Shirou wrote:Norwee I think I die tonight maybe
will u kill scum for me when I'm dead
you need to
they're scum posting too much
This is a real thought you had?
@CSF I basically love the argument you made against TGP that the posts were out of order and that may indicate it's fabricated, if you're scum here i still love you anyway, it's one of the things i look into sometimes but i didn't even notice it here."Que será, será. Whatever will be, will be."
"listen i know its funny to say shirou is scum but shirou is just literally crazy"~Firebringer on town!Shirou
"Not if it was Volpe's PLAN all along that we lim him and when he flips red we think Wooper is scum"~town!Norwee jokes about scum!Shirou's actual plan
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you do not understand the complete context of why i'm drainedIn post 2214, Toto wrote:Like this while at the same time ateing that you are drained cause ppl are scum reading you is fake as hell
it's a lot of things combined right now, from all sort of things
this reason you pointed out is one of them but uh...i don't think i'm too scum read here relatively to other slots?
i feel like there's a lack of someone leading on me for me to feel too bothered about the random suspicious on me, there's no one loud enough screaming for my death and i think in a gamestate like this it's what it takes for a wagon to happen. maybe fire could start a serious wagon on me though, I could see that and it would be even more annoying indeed..."Que será, será. Whatever will be, will be."
"listen i know its funny to say shirou is scum but shirou is just literally crazy"~Firebringer on town!Shirou
"Not if it was Volpe's PLAN all along that we lim him and when he flips red we think Wooper is scum"~town!Norwee jokes about scum!Shirou's actual plan
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i think my solve is kinda correct so given there's not many universally town read slots other than ?pina? i could die here?
idk i usually die early so maybe i'm unconsciously assuming it's gonna be the same here even though i'm not an universal town read as i used to in most of my past games
maybe i need to get used to being scum read"Que será, será. Whatever will be, will be."
"listen i know its funny to say shirou is scum but shirou is just literally crazy"~Firebringer on town!Shirou
"Not if it was Volpe's PLAN all along that we lim him and when he flips red we think Wooper is scum"~town!Norwee jokes about scum!Shirou's actual plan
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i could be totally wrong and hard scum siding though, yeah
sad if that's the case"Que será, será. Whatever will be, will be."
"listen i know its funny to say shirou is scum but shirou is just literally crazy"~Firebringer on town!Shirou
"Not if it was Volpe's PLAN all along that we lim him and when he flips red we think Wooper is scum"~town!Norwee jokes about scum!Shirou's actual plan
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Ok so:In post 2064, giuseppina wrote:it generally feels like norwegianboyee ishereto me but not really pushing the game in a direction and that’s not really what i would expect from norwegianboyee as town
like it’s not the lack of ‘solving’ or anything it would be weird if norwegianboyee started presenting cases or something but the lack of pushing for what norwegianboyee wants is odd to me like i kinda assumed in previous games that that is how norwegianboyee sorts - simply by pushing whoever and gauging responses but there’s a chance that’s an altogether inaccurate assumption on my part as it was largely formed when i was playing as a scums
What was bugging me about this game was this reason a bit + people constantly saying "hey, your norwegian townread? are you sure it's correct?", Gimli even going as far as saying I need to "pray for it to be right" (and I suspect Gimli). It almost feels like some people know as a matter of fact that Norwee is scum and I'm throwing and look like a clown. (Not to mention be associated to him if he ever "flipped" scum?)
I think Norwee will agree with me here that he hasn't been pushing people that much in this game, he doesn't feel too engaged in following spontaneous thoughts he has about other slots, but at the same time I don't think that's his scum game, it just feels like he's kinda lazy in this game as town, for example on this progression I still feel his spontaneity a bit although in a smaller scale:
Spoiler:
My biggest reason for liking his slot though is due to my push on him. The way it didn't feel fake how he wasn't pleased with my incorrect read on him. It's something that only works once though I think, next time if scum he'll probably try to copy how he reacted in this game to attempt to be town read again."Que será, será. Whatever will be, will be."
"listen i know its funny to say shirou is scum but shirou is just literally crazy"~Firebringer on town!Shirou
"Not if it was Volpe's PLAN all along that we lim him and when he flips red we think Wooper is scum"~town!Norwee jokes about scum!Shirou's actual plan
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I've doubted a bit but I'm back at...Norwee is town in my world view. Please don't vote him, a lot of people miseliminate Norwee for the reasons you guys are describing and it's more often than not wrong.
Miseliminating Norwee here is one of the ways we lose the game in my opinion."Que será, será. Whatever will be, will be."
"listen i know its funny to say shirou is scum but shirou is just literally crazy"~Firebringer on town!Shirou
"Not if it was Volpe's PLAN all along that we lim him and when he flips red we think Wooper is scum"~town!Norwee jokes about scum!Shirou's actual plan
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Norwee I'm so tired I'm sorry I didn't make it clear on my wording there that it was fake from the get-go?In post 2222, NorwegianboyEE wrote:
Didn't you say it was intended to be fake from the get-go. This is a pretty big change in explanation.In post 2220, Shirou wrote:My biggest reason for liking his slot though is due to my push on him. The way it didn't feel fake how he wasn't pleased with my incorrect read on him. It's something that only works once though I think, next time if scum he'll probably try to copy how he reacted in this game to attempt to be town read again.
It was so over the top, isn't it kinda clear in hindsight that it was fake?"Que será, será. Whatever will be, will be."
"listen i know its funny to say shirou is scum but shirou is just literally crazy"~Firebringer on town!Shirou
"Not if it was Volpe's PLAN all along that we lim him and when he flips red we think Wooper is scum"~town!Norwee jokes about scum!Shirou's actual plan
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My head is very very fuzzy
like I said I need a break after giving my final thoughts in this dayphase"Que será, será. Whatever will be, will be."
"listen i know its funny to say shirou is scum but shirou is just literally crazy"~Firebringer on town!Shirou
"Not if it was Volpe's PLAN all along that we lim him and when he flips red we think Wooper is scum"~town!Norwee jokes about scum!Shirou's actual plan
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CSF has been voting TGP since forever
do you guys not understand
this is scum posting
gimli/furtive have been trying to test waters for CSF since they came in
my opinion is that they need miseliminations and are trying to cook one on CSF."Que será, será. Whatever will be, will be."
"listen i know its funny to say shirou is scum but shirou is just literally crazy"~Firebringer on town!Shirou
"Not if it was Volpe's PLAN all along that we lim him and when he flips red we think Wooper is scum"~town!Norwee jokes about scum!Shirou's actual plan
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i probably should spell "scum posting" as "scumposting" to be clearer hm"Que será, será. Whatever will be, will be."
"listen i know its funny to say shirou is scum but shirou is just literally crazy"~Firebringer on town!Shirou
"Not if it was Volpe's PLAN all along that we lim him and when he flips red we think Wooper is scum"~town!Norwee jokes about scum!Shirou's actual plan
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Norwee if i die will u try to sheep my PoE?
same question to CSF"Que será, será. Whatever will be, will be."
"listen i know its funny to say shirou is scum but shirou is just literally crazy"~Firebringer on town!Shirou
"Not if it was Volpe's PLAN all along that we lim him and when he flips red we think Wooper is scum"~town!Norwee jokes about scum!Shirou's actual plan
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like
theoretically speaking CSF could be scum but she's not scumposting and i think she deserves the win
it may not seem like it if you don't pay attention but her analysis of the game have quite a lot of insight and effort behind them, it's not just #randomthoughts
i don't remember her scum game and would next time be much more wary of her if she's scum but i like Cakez spontaneous posts before replacing out and also like her analysis/current mindset & reads so i'm good with calling her town and not eliminating there"Que será, será. Whatever will be, will be."
"listen i know its funny to say shirou is scum but shirou is just literally crazy"~Firebringer on town!Shirou
"Not if it was Volpe's PLAN all along that we lim him and when he flips red we think Wooper is scum"~town!Norwee jokes about scum!Shirou's actual plan
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Norwee what are your thoughts at this game
talk to me"Que será, será. Whatever will be, will be."
"listen i know its funny to say shirou is scum but shirou is just literally crazy"~Firebringer on town!Shirou
"Not if it was Volpe's PLAN all along that we lim him and when he flips red we think Wooper is scum"~town!Norwee jokes about scum!Shirou's actual plan
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who feels scummy besides TGP"Que será, será. Whatever will be, will be."
"listen i know its funny to say shirou is scum but shirou is just literally crazy"~Firebringer on town!Shirou
"Not if it was Volpe's PLAN all along that we lim him and when he flips red we think Wooper is scum"~town!Norwee jokes about scum!Shirou's actual plan
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ok if i'm alive tomorrow there's one more person to vote my suspects so that's problem solved
in the worst scenario that i'm killed here and TGP flips town though, there's 9 alive on a 6:3 ratio, 5 necessary to eliminate.
Therefore I need 5 people on the SHIP OF JUSTICE.
I'm CAPTAIN SHIROU
Objective is KILLING SCUMPOSTING slots
Ultimate ideal is winning a setup with 70% scum winrate"Que será, será. Whatever will be, will be."
"listen i know its funny to say shirou is scum but shirou is just literally crazy"~Firebringer on town!Shirou
"Not if it was Volpe's PLAN all along that we lim him and when he flips red we think Wooper is scum"~town!Norwee jokes about scum!Shirou's actual plan
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[Norwe, CSF]
three tickets to go
@StD, @Pina, @Fire I'm formally inviting you."Que será, será. Whatever will be, will be."
"listen i know its funny to say shirou is scum but shirou is just literally crazy"~Firebringer on town!Shirou
"Not if it was Volpe's PLAN all along that we lim him and when he flips red we think Wooper is scum"~town!Norwee jokes about scum!Shirou's actual plan
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actually also you @Toto.In post 2238, Shirou wrote:[Norwe, CSF]
three tickets to go
@StD, @Pina, @Fire I'm formally inviting you.
If Fire is scum I need one more slot there, just like if you're."Que será, será. Whatever will be, will be."
"listen i know its funny to say shirou is scum but shirou is just literally crazy"~Firebringer on town!Shirou
"Not if it was Volpe's PLAN all along that we lim him and when he flips red we think Wooper is scum"~town!Norwee jokes about scum!Shirou's actual plan
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Ok fuck Fire/Toto can both be scum bussing scum!TGPIn post 2239, Shirou wrote:
actually also you @Toto.In post 2238, Shirou wrote:[Norwe, CSF]
three tickets to go
@StD, @Pina, @Fire I'm formally inviting you.
If Fire is scum I need one more slot there, just like if you're.
I NEED ONE MORE if tgp is scum.
If TGP is scum I think Klick is town, so I also want to invinte you @Klick on a TGP red flip.
If TGP flips green I think Klick is out of the group unfortunately."Que será, será. Whatever will be, will be."
"listen i know its funny to say shirou is scum but shirou is just literally crazy"~Firebringer on town!Shirou
"Not if it was Volpe's PLAN all along that we lim him and when he flips red we think Wooper is scum"~town!Norwee jokes about scum!Shirou's actual plan
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so basically I want to talk with/convice [Norwee, CSF, STD, Pina, Fire]
If TGP is scum, I wanna include Klick on the group.
If TGP is town, I wanna include Toto on the group."Que será, será. Whatever will be, will be."
"listen i know its funny to say shirou is scum but shirou is just literally crazy"~Firebringer on town!Shirou
"Not if it was Volpe's PLAN all along that we lim him and when he flips red we think Wooper is scum"~town!Norwee jokes about scum!Shirou's actual plan
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UNVOTE:"Que será, será. Whatever will be, will be."
"listen i know its funny to say shirou is scum but shirou is just literally crazy"~Firebringer on town!Shirou
"Not if it was Volpe's PLAN all along that we lim him and when he flips red we think Wooper is scum"~town!Norwee jokes about scum!Shirou's actual plan
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I don't mean it like thatIn post 2244, fireisredsir wrote:i don't really have any interest at all in following you for the sake of following you
I'm gonna try to convince you guys of it"Que será, será. Whatever will be, will be."
"listen i know its funny to say shirou is scum but shirou is just literally crazy"~Firebringer on town!Shirou
"Not if it was Volpe's PLAN all along that we lim him and when he flips red we think Wooper is scum"~town!Norwee jokes about scum!Shirou's actual plan
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My ?final? thoughts on this dayphase:
I believe that killing all of [Gimli, Furtive, TGP] guarantees at least one scum, and we can afford up to 3 eliminations until reaching ELO. Therefore, we need a group of 3 people thatcan't all be townin my opinion and this is the most likely group at the moment.
I think flipping TGP today to sort Klick isn't a bad idea. Klick was the first slot to proactively town lean/try to "protect" TGP when everyone suspected them and one of the facts of this setup is that historically, scum has oftenbussedto disassociate. It even has a name ("White Flag Gambit") and was first used by the founder of this site (Mith! Random thank you for creating this site!).
If TGP isscum:
I believe if TGP and Klick were partners, Klick wouldn't give such a confident town read/defense of TGP as he's going down, it's not gonna look good after the flip. Therefore I believe that Klick/TGP aren't partnered, the defense seems too open and straightforward to come from my partners. If TGP flips red, I believe Klick deserves to be in the townblock/out of the PoE, just as I believe Toto needs to be inserted on it. Toto has often said they scum read TGP but is hesitant to vote there until the last minute it seems, it could very well be a weak bus that he knows has a heavy price on this setup, so he's trying to not go into that direction as much as possible.
Therefore, if TGP is scum I wouldn't recommend eliminating Klick.
My PoE for Day 3 would be: [Furtive/Toto > Gimli]
if TGP is:town
I believe if TGP is town, everyone that was correctly town reading him is in factsuspicious. Why? Becausemajoritycouldn't see towny things there, and themajorityof players aretown. It seems like town would have agreed that TGP posts are sketchy, but some people don't get it at all? It'sscum indicative, and I don't need a far-off example to show why:
In the recent Dance Large Theme moderated by Datisi, scum!Ydrasse had the same position about town!Furtive (while he was going down as everyone thought his posts were rather scummy), she was one of the unique slots to say she town read them along with his neighbor MariaR. I believe MariaR was more inclined to town read him given they had a PT/she had access to additional content from him, but even so you could say that tell had around 50% odds of getting scum in that game, getting one scum in two eliminations isn't bad you would always win games like that.
There's three players that I've seen hinting on "not getting" the reads on TGP, be it by finding it all kinda null/not interesting (Aubrey) or straight up town leaning the slot (Klick/Gimli). I believe not doubting TGP here is quite hard as he has:
1) A very weird progression of his read on me
2) Quick hammered but is trying to say he didn't know it wasn't hammer (I don't dislike the quick hammer as much as I dislike him trying to give excuses for it)
3) Doesn't seem to be very engaged towards solving the game, I feel that other than his pushback against me (that was pushing him and he gives up later) he has gone along with the flow of the game, and I think if Fire is town wanting to vote Fire here is kinda a bit scum indicative, because I'm sure that if Fire is town he was the supposed miselimination today after yesterday. That's also a point against Aubrey given he didn't reconsider anything at all in day 2 start even though he himself realizes the Gamma nightkills points to scum more likely than not, not feeling threatened in day 1.
I believe Toto can still be scum if TGP is town, but I think there would still be two scum in my PoE of [Gimli > Klick/Furtive] in that case, so I guess maybe it doesn't matter?
If TGP is town, I wouldn't recommend eliminating Toto.
I'll now try to briefly explain in my next post what I think is scummy about the locked slots in the PoE (Gimli/Furtive) other than TGP (which is about to die anyway and I don't feel it's necessary because I've already talked about it)."Que será, será. Whatever will be, will be."
"listen i know its funny to say shirou is scum but shirou is just literally crazy"~Firebringer on town!Shirou
"Not if it was Volpe's PLAN all along that we lim him and when he flips red we think Wooper is scum"~town!Norwee jokes about scum!Shirou's actual plan
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lolIn post 2249, Shirou wrote:from my partners.
my head is too fuzzy atm
i wonder if anyone will treat this as a "slip""Que será, será. Whatever will be, will be."
"listen i know its funny to say shirou is scum but shirou is just literally crazy"~Firebringer on town!Shirou
"Not if it was Volpe's PLAN all along that we lim him and when he flips red we think Wooper is scum"~town!Norwee jokes about scum!Shirou's actual plan
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I want to reply on this before going into Gimli/Furtive.In post 2247, Toto wrote:Like I don’t get the mindset.
Maybe you just have an inflated ego and are confbiased I just don’t see how it works other wise.
I probably am kinda "confbiased" by this point because I've a good history of knowing more or less how to read Norwee. Could I get it wrong eventually? Can I be wrong right now?YES. But mafia is a guessing game and right now all that I know about him points to him being town in this game.
It's true I'm trying to "hide" a bit some of the reasons and not going for ultra breakdown of every little thing I think is from his town meta/playstyle, I don't want to reveal everything about how I read him because then he could fake it all next time, I don't want that because it's pleasant to feel like you've a friend that you can read, it makes the game more fun when I feel at ease trusting him because I trust my methods on reading him so far.
I'll admit, in fact, that although I'm advocating quite a bit for town!Norwee here, hehasn'tbeenverytownie outside of his reaction to my push, but I still think the way he reacted to the push isn't from scum!him and there's some good posts like I pointed out there and here in his ISO. You can disagree, that's fine Toto,maybe I'm wrong, but I've no choice but to trust my guns because they've kinda worked so far with him. I'm pushing it confidently because I believe preventing a miselimination on him is very positive for our odds of winning this game and that's it.
I've not been too wrong on him so far (there's a game I suspected him but never confident enough to lim him because there was always "scummier" slots in my vision), but this could be it. My next game could be it. I don't feel like I've properly "failed" on him yet by completely inversely reading his alignment but I could. I'm not infallible.
I'm sorry if I'm wrong? I don't think I'm, but I could be.
One of the best town players in this site that destroyed scum teams in D1 has his left post in the site as a pun that in the very end, he thinks there's quite a bit ofluckinvolved in mafia. I agree there's definitely games that even people that know me probably would suspect me because I was playing a bit differently for whatever reason. Mafia is hard, we can only often guess.
I'm guessing Norwee is town here. I've historically good guesses on him I believe. I could still be wrong though I guess.
That's it Toto.
It's hard to be sure of anything in this game but I try to push to the best of my abilities what I think is the correct answer."Que será, será. Whatever will be, will be."
"listen i know its funny to say shirou is scum but shirou is just literally crazy"~Firebringer on town!Shirou
"Not if it was Volpe's PLAN all along that we lim him and when he flips red we think Wooper is scum"~town!Norwee jokes about scum!Shirou's actual plan
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I just got out of a small phase of doubting my read on him there some posts ago. I tried to reconsider and ended up with the conclusion I think he's still town here.
I'm sorry if I'm wrong on Norwee, or who scum is, or on anything in this game. I'm sorry, I'm trying my best."Que será, será. Whatever will be, will be."
"listen i know its funny to say shirou is scum but shirou is just literally crazy"~Firebringer on town!Shirou
"Not if it was Volpe's PLAN all along that we lim him and when he flips red we think Wooper is scum"~town!Norwee jokes about scum!Shirou's actual plan
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Partially because I'm petty and feel like the TGP wagon is partially mine because it was me that kept pushing him and making him post scummy stuff. We may not be wagoning TGP right now if it wasn't for me vs him in Day 1, so to be suspected along with the person you've contributed the most to be suspected, it's a bit unnerving.In post 2253, fireisredsir wrote:
ok given that you did actually know this and hold this opinion,In post 2249, Shirou wrote:I think flipping TGP today to sort Klick isn't a bad idea. Klick was the first slot to proactively town lean/try to "protect" TGP when everyone suspected them and one of the facts of this setup is that historically, scum has often bussed to disassociate. It even has a name ("White Flag Gambit") and was first used by the founder of this site (Mith! Random thank you for creating this site!).
If TGP is scum:
I believe if TGP and Klick were partners, Klick wouldn't give such a confident town read/defense of TGP as he's going down, it's not gonna look good after the flip. Therefore I believe that Klick/TGP aren't partnered, the defense seems too open and straightforward to come from my partners.
can we go back to discussing why you thought it was ridiculous for toto to think that you could be bussing TGP and you have continued to discredit and dismiss him solely based on the fact that he suspects both of you
Secondly though, because Ari said in this same game something I find very correct, something along the lines of "scum doesn't often chooses the direction of the bus" or so. Can't remember her exact words, but what she basically meant is that scum often isn't the pioneer behind a scum elimination, they often only voice suspicious/weak pushes without truly screaming for their partner death at the start, or start to push themafterother people are pushing their buddy. It's not often that scum straight up create the wagon on their partner and are so responsible for their death because they want the credit but not to make it too harder for themselves/their buddies.
I've began to poke Klick lately but it's because I think it's one of the slots where I want to look at next depending on the flip and most people had already started to see the issue with TGP. Me constantly pushing TGP here at this point would be a bit of an overkill and I'm starting to think he has some decent odds of being town just for the weird town reads on him by some people as I've commented.Individuallyhe'svery very scummythough."Que será, será. Whatever will be, will be."
"listen i know its funny to say shirou is scum but shirou is just literally crazy"~Firebringer on town!Shirou
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i'm literally saying there's good odds of tgp flipping town because of other slots you always feels so snarky about meIn post 2259, Gimli wrote:Just so you won't beat yourself up too much if tgp flips town, shirou
and you voted tgp because there was already a wagon there and there was a wagon on tgp because i created a wagon on it in D1 by 1v1'ing him and it ended up with him scumposting
do i sound egoistical? probably hell yeah sorry?
am i objectively wrong? i don't think so??
how is it wrong to say i created the foundation of the tgp wagon"Que será, será. Whatever will be, will be."
"listen i know its funny to say shirou is scum but shirou is just literally crazy"~Firebringer on town!Shirou
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ok i got distracted for a bit back to casing Gimli/Furtive"Que será, será. Whatever will be, will be."
"listen i know its funny to say shirou is scum but shirou is just literally crazy"~Firebringer on town!Shirou
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In post 2280, Gimli wrote:
There was no wagon on TGP when I voted himIn post 2274, Shirou wrote:
i'm literally saying there's good odds of tgp flipping town because of other slots you always feels so snarky about meIn post 2259, Gimli wrote:Just so you won't beat yourself up too much if tgp flips town, shirou
and you voted tgp because there was already a wagon there and there was a wagon on tgp because i created a wagon on it in D1 by 1v1'ing him and it ended up with him scumposting
do i sound egoistical? probably hell yeah sorry?
am i objectively wrong? i don't think so??
how is it wrong to say i created the foundation of the tgp wagonCSF later unvotes to let Klick catch-up and lots of slots are talking about TGP as a potential vote
i actually thought i had voted tgp today before klick as well though, i think i forgot to do it or was considering other solves already given the Gamma NK
p-edit yeah you found it faster i guess"Que será, será. Whatever will be, will be."
"listen i know its funny to say shirou is scum but shirou is just literally crazy"~Firebringer on town!Shirou
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VOTE: Gimli"Que será, será. Whatever will be, will be."
"listen i know its funny to say shirou is scum but shirou is just literally crazy"~Firebringer on town!Shirou
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feels a bit like bullshit ngl
In post 1526, Gimli wrote:I'm townreading golden paradox for their push on shirou (which was imo organic inside that very same post with a previous push that led to this one and the vote).In post 1527, Gimli wrote:Also in context with tgp's later townread on shirou I think it's not a slot we should be flipping todayIn post 1532, Gimli wrote:
Agreed with this sentimentIn post 617, NorwegianboyEE wrote:Tgp is probably town for that.In post 1562, Gimli wrote:TGP is barely posting, I liked his D1 progression on shirou, but there isn't much more than that. I feel it's town too but without much evidence.
and then you vote himIn post 1773, Gimli wrote:Idk if TGP's posts now are towny or just crafted to look that way
You start town reading them rather strongly and then drop it, kinda feels like it's because you see that he's too much of a viable miselim or something. maybe fated to bus idk.In post 1779, Gimli wrote:*waining fast
Phoneposting sucks
AlsoVOTE: TGP
The more I look at these reads the more I feel it doesn't come from town"Que será, será. Whatever will be, will be."
"listen i know its funny to say shirou is scum but shirou is just literally crazy"~Firebringer on town!Shirou
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i want to kill Gimli in my heart
but my head says that even if tgp is town he goes first because it's just better for the solve or something
it felt so nice to have an order of lims
p-edit: i quoted everything i could find with "TGP" on a CTRL+F?"Que será, será. Whatever will be, will be."
"listen i know its funny to say shirou is scum but shirou is just literally crazy"~Firebringer on town!Shirou
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In post 1698, Gimli wrote:The gamma kill makes sense in a world where tgp is scum if I skimmed it rightIn post 1701, Gimli wrote:I mean I'm just joining the conversation
Otoh I feel more inclined to go paradox today given how many slots are townierIn post 1777, Gimli wrote:
Can you expand on your toto townread? I'm not sure I follow this. How is it not convenient for scum if they're pushing against townies?In post 1757, TheGoldenParadox wrote:toto is town, probably—i'm happy to include them in my townbloc. they are wrong about me and i think shirou but not in directions where i would be like "hey, yes, this is very Convenient for you, this Benefits you." they're pushing against two townies. also 1596 is plausibly not out of scumtoto's range but they get townpoints for them
i guess there is thisIn post 1778, Gimli wrote:
Who's townreading you, me or Lucian before me? Is that the only reason you're townreading my slot?In post 1757, TheGoldenParadox wrote:gimli / lucian slot is lean town, don't have strong takes here but a) unlike shirou i think it is much easier for scum to SR me / go with the flow then stick their necks out or wtv and be like "you guys are town
Wrt my townread on you, it's waiting fast. I don't like your reads post and I think you're writing this to appear towny instead of being town. Don't see the solvyness in it"Que será, será. Whatever will be, will be."
"listen i know its funny to say shirou is scum but shirou is just literally crazy"~Firebringer on town!Shirou
"Not if it was Volpe's PLAN all along that we lim him and when he flips red we think Wooper is scum"~town!Norwee jokes about scum!Shirou's actual plan
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now I feel like i'm too tired to properly case Gimli/Furtive and it's too late and i need to go sleep
forgive me?
maybe my solve is all trash anyway though and you should ignore me
see you all
p-edit: this was typed before the above post from Gimli to be clear, idk not limming TGP here first feels wrong even if i think Gimli makes the most sense in general on being scum
i just can't wrap my head around some progressions from tgp
VOTE: TGP
if tgp is town gimli needs to go tomorrow as i said in my post earlier, that's it for me in this dayphase"Que será, será. Whatever will be, will be."
"listen i know its funny to say shirou is scum but shirou is just literally crazy"~Firebringer on town!Shirou
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nope, done efforting in mafia games for awhileIn post 2296, Gimli wrote:We have three days for you to post your case
haven't been doing pretty important stuff to effort on them recently, maximum i'm doing the rest of this dayphase is voting or saying a thought or two"Que será, será. Whatever will be, will be."
"listen i know its funny to say shirou is scum but shirou is just literally crazy"~Firebringer on town!Shirou
"Not if it was Volpe's PLAN all along that we lim him and when he flips red we think Wooper is scum"~town!Norwee jokes about scum!Shirou's actual plan
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@mod V/LA until 24th/tuesday"Que será, será. Whatever will be, will be."
"listen i know its funny to say shirou is scum but shirou is just literally crazy"~Firebringer on town!Shirou
"Not if it was Volpe's PLAN all along that we lim him and when he flips red we think Wooper is scum"~town!Norwee jokes about scum!Shirou's actual plan
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In post 2300, Gimli wrote:You need to case furtive especially if you think he is mafia"Que será, será. Whatever will be, will be."
"listen i know its funny to say shirou is scum but shirou is just literally crazy"~Firebringer on town!Shirou
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VOTE: gimli
it's either you or tgp today to me
your choice
i search for them on the spot yesIn post 2303, Save The Dragons wrote:do you like just have a bunch of anime gifs or do you go to like anime-gif.com and type in "shaking head no""Que será, será. Whatever will be, will be."
"listen i know its funny to say shirou is scum but shirou is just literally crazy"~Firebringer on town!Shirou
"Not if it was Volpe's PLAN all along that we lim him and when he flips red we think Wooper is scum"~town!Norwee jokes about scum!Shirou's actual plan
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In post 2336, Cat Scratch Fever wrote:I think TGP is at E-1 now btw"Que será, será. Whatever will be, will be."
"listen i know its funny to say shirou is scum but shirou is just literally crazy"~Firebringer on town!Shirou
"Not if it was Volpe's PLAN all along that we lim him and when he flips red we think Wooper is scum"~town!Norwee jokes about scum!Shirou's actual plan
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"Que será, será. Whatever will be, will be."
"listen i know its funny to say shirou is scum but shirou is just literally crazy"~Firebringer on town!Shirou
"Not if it was Volpe's PLAN all along that we lim him and when he flips red we think Wooper is scum"~town!Norwee jokes about scum!Shirou's actual plan
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In post 2345, giuseppina wrote:In post 2338, giuseppina wrote:
i am curious enough to ask i suppose,In post 2154, Shirou wrote:there's really something bugging me in this game oh my god
would i be throwing or hero'ing by saying it idk anymore
so,
what's bugging you?In post 2221, Shirou wrote:I've doubted a bit but I'm back at...Norwee is town in my world view."Que será, será. Whatever will be, will be."
"listen i know its funny to say shirou is scum but shirou is just literally crazy"~Firebringer on town!Shirou
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i can't believe klick robbed me of the hammer i was planning to rob from toto
i thought about hammering last night but pina would complain about me "rushing" again
i'm emotionally destroyed rn"Que será, será. Whatever will be, will be."
"listen i know its funny to say shirou is scum but shirou is just literally crazy"~Firebringer on town!Shirou
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"Que será, será. Whatever will be, will be."
"listen i know its funny to say shirou is scum but shirou is just literally crazy"~Firebringer on town!Shirou
"Not if it was Volpe's PLAN all along that we lim him and when he flips red we think Wooper is scum"~town!Norwee jokes about scum!Shirou's actual plan
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hm
just in case it's not hammer yet
VOTE: TGP"Que será, será. Whatever will be, will be."
"listen i know its funny to say shirou is scum but shirou is just literally crazy"~Firebringer on town!Shirou
"Not if it was Volpe's PLAN all along that we lim him and when he flips red we think Wooper is scum"~town!Norwee jokes about scum!Shirou's actual plan
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like idk this post feels like it comes from scum more often than notIn post 2372, TheGoldenParadox wrote:@shirou reread my iso, seriously think about it, and then say out loud that i'm scum and fire's town
like, you're better than this and you know it
i don't even think fire is always town here as much as i think his partners are in the PoE i already explained that"Que será, será. Whatever will be, will be."
"listen i know its funny to say shirou is scum but shirou is just literally crazy"~Firebringer on town!Shirou
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tbh i'm starting to feel like fire is scum with tgp but it can also be scum!tgp way of wifom'ing this game
i just hope there's another scum in my PoE if that's the case
that's it from me i guess
fire/furtive/tgp could make sense as a team"Que será, será. Whatever will be, will be."
"listen i know its funny to say shirou is scum but shirou is just literally crazy"~Firebringer on town!Shirou
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this game gets weirder the longer it goes on
i would like to wrap this up today, i'm a bit more confident on myself given my first strong scum read TGP was de facto scum, but at the same time i'm puzzled on why i'm still alive if my PoE is anywhere right
but again
i was right on TGP and left alive in day 2 anyway
i'm not sure what is the scum team supposed plan anymore
do they even have a plan in fact..."Que será, será. Whatever will be, will be."
"listen i know its funny to say shirou is scum but shirou is just literally crazy"~Firebringer on town!Shirou
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there's things that are a bit clear or very likely to me now, like Gamma being killed because she was indeed suspecting TGP quite a lot but it wasn't something that would look obviously bad on TGP like me
however some of them also only is evident to me because i know my alignment or if you town read me from a third person pov
if you do a leap of faith and consider me town (which honestly i feel like i almost "deserve" a bit given certain things TGP said like "Shirou is too good as town to be left alive" or "Shirou you are better than that and you know it", or even his weird ass progression on me), i think those night kills are pretty curious to wonder about"Que será, será. Whatever will be, will be."
"listen i know its funny to say shirou is scum but shirou is just literally crazy"~Firebringer on town!Shirou
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In post 1176, TheGoldenParadox wrote:if shirou is town, he is going to get NKed by scum in the next couple of days, because they are too powerful for that to not be true, and the WIFOM isn't worth it, but we do get the benefit of a strong townie for at least a couple days, and for the NK to be Shirou as opposed to the second most powerful townie or whatever."Que será, será. Whatever will be, will be."
"listen i know its funny to say shirou is scum but shirou is just literally crazy"~Firebringer on town!Shirou
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i need to think about this game
bye for now"Que será, será. Whatever will be, will be."
"listen i know its funny to say shirou is scum but shirou is just literally crazy"~Firebringer on town!Shirou
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yes totoIn post 2464, Toto wrote:lmao was that a scumclaim?
my partner actually described how if i don't get NK'd i'm supposedly scum and i didn't get NK'd
it's not the scum team plan to hope to somehow suspect me/CSF some other slots that are needed to have enough mislims here if my PoE is somewhat right, it was just TGP scum slipping our plan in the main thread"Que será, será. Whatever will be, will be."
"listen i know its funny to say shirou is scum but shirou is just literally crazy"~Firebringer on town!Shirou
"Not if it was Volpe's PLAN all along that we lim him and when he flips red we think Wooper is scum"~town!Norwee jokes about scum!Shirou's actual plan
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CSF HI
I'm a bit paranoid of scum being in my town leans given I'm still here but blegh, should trust myself for at least one or two more days given I was right on TGP from the start
what are your top 2 or 3 votes rn CSF?"Que será, será. Whatever will be, will be."
"listen i know its funny to say shirou is scum but shirou is just literally crazy"~Firebringer on town!Shirou
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I think we shouldn't touch Klick I would backflip if not even one scum bussed here
there has to be a busser"Que será, será. Whatever will be, will be."
"listen i know its funny to say shirou is scum but shirou is just literally crazy"~Firebringer on town!Shirou
"Not if it was Volpe's PLAN all along that we lim him and when he flips red we think Wooper is scum"~town!Norwee jokes about scum!Shirou's actual plan
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I'm not sure I want to go for that rather than TGP just planting the seed for a guaranteed mislim on fire
but I do think Fire can easily be scum here after all at this rate
I thought Ari slot only made sense to be scum with TGP after the self-vote, because maybe she thought TGP slot had a better shoot at endgaming than her own so she didn't want to wagon TGP with me to survive
and alas...TGP was indeed scum.
I think my pool right now is [Fire, Furtive, X]
X is either Toto or Gimli"Que será, será. Whatever will be, will be."
"listen i know its funny to say shirou is scum but shirou is just literally crazy"~Firebringer on town!Shirou
"Not if it was Volpe's PLAN all along that we lim him and when he flips red we think Wooper is scum"~town!Norwee jokes about scum!Shirou's actual plan
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I would do it to wifom people on voting fire in the next day if fire is town
I'm just not sure if I trust scum!TGP to realize this is a bad thing to do if fire is his partner because it feels too forced
like, I kinda trust TGP but at the same time they were pretty openly scummy at times...
idk this game is so fucking weird"Que será, será. Whatever will be, will be."
"listen i know its funny to say shirou is scum but shirou is just literally crazy"~Firebringer on town!Shirou
"Not if it was Volpe's PLAN all along that we lim him and when he flips red we think Wooper is scum"~town!Norwee jokes about scum!Shirou's actual plan
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I kinda feel like Toto hesitating so much to murder TGP may be kinda town indicative after all on hindsight i don't know
heart of steel?
vs Gimli that had a "town lean" on TGP but quickly was convinced into voting
maybe [Furtive, Fire, Gimli] is better than [Furtive, Fire, Toto]?"Que será, será. Whatever will be, will be."
"listen i know its funny to say shirou is scum but shirou is just literally crazy"~Firebringer on town!Shirou
"Not if it was Volpe's PLAN all along that we lim him and when he flips red we think Wooper is scum"~town!Norwee jokes about scum!Shirou's actual plan
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I think right now I would do
Furtive > Fire > Gimli
if I could
Furtive confidence on TGP flipping scum was a bit too much:
In post 1997, furtiveglance wrote:Team solve wise my reads lean towards TGP being town, but I think I'm more likely wrong and TGP is scum and Fire/you could be townIn post 2014, furtiveglance wrote:I SKIMMED THIS GAME.
But the main thing is I checked the main wagon (TGP) and yeah they need to go. Judge me on THAT.In post 2051, furtiveglance wrote:TGP is flipping today.
The flip will be red.
You will be judged.
We all will.In post 2066, furtiveglance wrote:Do not be fooled. This setup is based around scum not being able to bus. Why are people defending TGP when they need to die based on their awful posting and tone? Put your vote back on and reap the rewards.
'oh wow furtive are you saying Klick/giuseppina scum now? stop flip-flopping'
We'll cross that bridge later.
To all the other town, read TGP in isolation and block out the voices. Then vote them.
We are close to the top of the mountain, do not turn around.In post 2069, furtiveglance wrote:We have 11 players now. Vote off mafia today, and the game's basically ours. I believe in this vote enough to stake my life in this game/reputation (don't really have one but meh) on itIn post 2074, furtiveglance wrote:I'm going to bed. If TGP has been hammered when I wake up, I'll be happy. If they haven't, I'll be annoyed. If the wagon has gone, I'll be livid."Que será, será. Whatever will be, will be."
"listen i know its funny to say shirou is scum but shirou is just literally crazy"~Firebringer on town!Shirou
"Not if it was Volpe's PLAN all along that we lim him and when he flips red we think Wooper is scum"~town!Norwee jokes about scum!Shirou's actual plan
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like look at those posts and tell me furtive isn't bussing
idk i think if we speed lim Furtive we have decent odds of just wrapping up this game
i really want to wrap up this game so that i can go apologize and meme in post-game with Una"Que será, será. Whatever will be, will be."
"listen i know its funny to say shirou is scum but shirou is just literally crazy"~Firebringer on town!Shirou
"Not if it was Volpe's PLAN all along that we lim him and when he flips red we think Wooper is scum"~town!Norwee jokes about scum!Shirou's actual plan
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yeahIn post 2477, Cat Scratch Fever wrote:@shurou, Yeah I didn’t get the impression that TGP was comfortable playing as scum
That’s why I think this might’ve been a fuck up on his part
It could be an anti anti associative (pauses to sip wine). as someone else said, it did seem like TGP was leaning into it a bit at the end. I just don’t see how TGP is supposed to recover from that besides leaning into it if they are indeed SvS and people were calling them out on it, if that makes sense.
/shrug
I think I would just do Furtive > Fire here and if it doesn't end the game, god help us by then"Que será, será. Whatever will be, will be."
"listen i know its funny to say shirou is scum but shirou is just literally crazy"~Firebringer on town!Shirou
"Not if it was Volpe's PLAN all along that we lim him and when he flips red we think Wooper is scum"~town!Norwee jokes about scum!Shirou's actual plan
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VOTE: Furtive"Que será, será. Whatever will be, will be."
"listen i know its funny to say shirou is scum but shirou is just literally crazy"~Firebringer on town!Shirou
"Not if it was Volpe's PLAN all along that we lim him and when he flips red we think Wooper is scum"~town!Norwee jokes about scum!Shirou's actual plan
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