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Post Post #131 (isolation #0) » Sun Feb 26, 2023 1:06 pm

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Gimliboi is town. Not sure about others yet, they talk too much.
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Post Post #134 (isolation #1) » Sun Feb 26, 2023 1:08 pm

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Fire is cute when he’s angry
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Post Post #136 (isolation #2) » Sun Feb 26, 2023 1:10 pm

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In post 109, Firebringer wrote: i like kawaii questioning
They seem sus to me.
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Post Post #138 (isolation #3) » Sun Feb 26, 2023 1:11 pm

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Literally never seen them before tho
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Post Post #143 (isolation #4) » Sun Feb 26, 2023 1:14 pm

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Lots of talking but it all feels like a play actor going through motions. And how they seem to pry what people think but in an unnatural way.
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Post Post #145 (isolation #5) » Sun Feb 26, 2023 1:15 pm

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In post 141, Flea The Magician wrote:
In post 137, Firebringer wrote: doesnt even deny he stole it.
look at his avi
that box he is holding has my sandwich in it.

i am 100% certain of this
VOTE: Norwee
Genuinely not the worst idea and reasoning in the last 24 hours xD
Certainly won’t beat what seems to be your idea and reasoning.

VOTE: Kawaii
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Post Post #146 (isolation #6) » Sun Feb 26, 2023 1:16 pm

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In post 142, Firebringer wrote: Norwee if u got scum without me i will never forgive u
I wanted SK. :(
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Post Post #151 (isolation #7) » Sun Feb 26, 2023 1:19 pm

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In post 149, KawaiiKame wrote:
In post 143, NorwegianboyEE wrote: Lots of talking but it all feels like a play actor going through motions. And how they seem to pry what people think but in an unnatural way.
I do like how you characterize me, you feel town, I seem scummy to some povs even when inno
How long have you played mafia?
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Post Post #153 (isolation #8) » Sun Feb 26, 2023 1:21 pm

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Well generally just your experience i guess.
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Post Post #155 (isolation #9) » Sun Feb 26, 2023 1:21 pm

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Noob or pro
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Post Post #159 (isolation #10) » Sun Feb 26, 2023 1:23 pm

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Ok, well i was basically just trying to figure if this is your natural playstyle or if you just sound awkward cus evil alignment.
You can be in da clear for now. :cop:
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Post Post #160 (isolation #11) » Sun Feb 26, 2023 1:25 pm

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Fire do you have something you want to tell me? Something…secret? Something you just want to get out of your chest but it’s difficult?
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Post Post #167 (isolation #12) » Sun Feb 26, 2023 1:27 pm

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It would probably be ideal to get serial killer first assuming they have nightkill
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Post Post #169 (isolation #13) » Sun Feb 26, 2023 1:28 pm

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In post 165, Firebringer wrote: Norwee say i have a gun.
Say i wanted to eat someone tonight.

Don't have to answer this now since not everyone checked in.
Who should I eat
Gut is Flea for talking about cereal but yeah probably better question for later.
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Post Post #172 (isolation #14) » Sun Feb 26, 2023 1:33 pm

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If Fire is not scum, and Kawaii is not scum…

*Galaxy brain 400 million calculations in a minute*

Does that mean Detective Penguin is the maf on Gimli wagon? :eek: :eek: :eek:
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Post Post #174 (isolation #15) » Sun Feb 26, 2023 1:38 pm

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Truth is, there can only be one detective in this town. And i ain’t gonna let some penguin steal my limelight.
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Post Post #177 (isolation #16) » Sun Feb 26, 2023 1:42 pm

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Fire, go tinker with your "my first little investigator" set bought at Toys’r’Us, the real solver is here.
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Post Post #183 (isolation #17) » Sun Feb 26, 2023 1:52 pm

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It’s ok, i probably wouldn’t townread myself yet either.
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Post Post #186 (isolation #18) » Sun Feb 26, 2023 1:58 pm

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How would Fire as SK play.
I assume he would be all giddy and eliminate people with no remorse.
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Post Post #215 (isolation #19) » Sun Feb 26, 2023 10:37 pm

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In post 209, DragonEater70 wrote: @Norwee, come join us on the Penguin wagon. I heard you don't like penguins in the north pole, where you are.
In the name of science and progress, sure.
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Post Post #222 (isolation #20) » Mon Feb 27, 2023 12:41 am

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In post 216, Flea The Magician wrote: I like you.
And not in the Norwee style of like.
You can stay.
What does that even mean?
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Post Post #229 (isolation #21) » Mon Feb 27, 2023 2:55 am

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In post 228, Flea The Magician wrote:
In post 222, NorwegianboyEE wrote:
In post 216, Flea The Magician wrote: I like you.
And not in the Norwee style of like.
You can stay.
What does that even mean?
Means you sus
Why?
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Post Post #239 (isolation #22) » Mon Feb 27, 2023 4:15 am

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I’m voting the wagon because i don’t feel like there’s a lot of solid stuff i can read people from yet.
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Post Post #240 (isolation #23) » Mon Feb 27, 2023 4:16 am

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So gotta try to create some.
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Post Post #258 (isolation #24) » Mon Feb 27, 2023 5:11 am

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In post 253, Firebringer wrote:
In post 239, NorwegianboyEE wrote: I’m voting the wagon because i don’t feel like there’s a lot of solid stuff i can read people from yet.
this is why i want a wagon on u
Not in the mood, do it to someone else.
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Post Post #319 (isolation #25) » Mon Feb 27, 2023 7:33 am

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In post 286, Firebringer wrote:
In post 172, NorwegianboyEE wrote: If Fire is not scum, and Kawaii is not scum…

*Galaxy brain 400 million calculations in a minute*

Does that mean Detective Penguin is the maf on Gimli wagon? :eek: :eek: :eek:
norwee do u actually think there has to be scum in people who voted gimli or is this a shit post
If you can’t tell that’s a shitpost then wow.
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Post Post #322 (isolation #26) » Mon Feb 27, 2023 7:44 am

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Also i wasn’t "3P" hunting and scumtelling because "only scum hunt SK" Flea. I was pointing out that from an mechanics standpoint it’s way better to kill the SK as early as possible because that limits the amount of kills from anti-town roles. This was an indirect answer to your question on what you thought was best between killing mafia or a SK today. Whether we actually hit scum at all today is the most important thing.
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Post Post #328 (isolation #27) » Mon Feb 27, 2023 7:46 am

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Ok so i’ve done nothing and get wagoned wtf do u guys expect. I’m already tired today and i’m not gonna "become easy to read" like Fire apparently thinks will happen. In fact i’m just gonna go chill cus this game seems annoying now. Mislim me for nothing if y’all want, don’t care at all.
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Post Post #489 (isolation #28) » Mon Feb 27, 2023 12:36 pm

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In post 399, Cephrir wrote: VOTE: KawaiiKame

So many posts so little content
Why that scum indicative?
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Post Post #491 (isolation #29) » Mon Feb 27, 2023 12:38 pm

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In post 403, furtiveglance wrote:
In post 383, DragonEater70 wrote:
In post 364, furtiveglance wrote: I thought Ceph might be chainsawing for Penguin with the early wagons but then Penguin unvoting at E-1 was a bit towny
What made you think that? I can barely see any attack that Ceph made, much less an attack aimed at Penguin's attackers.
Vote on Norwee
Bro chill out with those hot takes, this thread can only take so much intelligence in one page.
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Post Post #493 (isolation #30) » Mon Feb 27, 2023 12:39 pm

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Nvm i misread that post Furtive LOL.
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Post Post #495 (isolation #31) » Mon Feb 27, 2023 12:41 pm

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I need to relax is what i need, deep breaths.
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Post Post #502 (isolation #32) » Mon Feb 27, 2023 12:46 pm

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In post 497, Firebringer wrote:
In post 495, NorwegianboyEE wrote: I need to relax is what i need, deep breaths.
got an updated answer for who i should eat yet?
Not really. Most of what i'm vibing right now is on feeling that Kawaii keeps towntelling hard.
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Post Post #503 (isolation #33) » Mon Feb 27, 2023 12:47 pm

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In post 501, Save The Dragons wrote: what did i do
Exist.
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Post Post #506 (isolation #34) » Mon Feb 27, 2023 12:48 pm

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Furtive do seem a bit less in your face but it's early game and from my experience they don't really activate until later so i'm not too bothered.
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Post Post #511 (isolation #35) » Mon Feb 27, 2023 12:53 pm

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I'm also really town, probably the towniest town that ever towned. How town was my day? I'll tell y'all how town my day was, i wandered around in town, greeting all of my fellow townies, we had a nice town birthday and i received many town gifts for being such an great and contributing member of the town. Town.
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Post Post #538 (isolation #36) » Tue Feb 28, 2023 2:41 am

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In post 536, biancospino wrote:
In post 261, Flea The Magician wrote:
In post 167, NorwegianboyEE wrote: It would probably be ideal to get serial killer first assuming they have nightkill
And this.
Ok, this is bizarre indeed. Mostly the
assuming they have nightkill
part, since this is a wholly open game so there is no assuming to do
I haven’t read what the roles actually do yet. All i read was SK so i signed up.
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Post Post #541 (isolation #37) » Tue Feb 28, 2023 4:08 am

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It's not the mod that's V/LA.
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Post Post #608 (isolation #38) » Tue Feb 28, 2023 8:14 am

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In post 570, Gimli wrote: so POE

(furtive, std, ceph, norwee)

is that a good solve friends
No.
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Post Post #610 (isolation #39) » Tue Feb 28, 2023 8:18 am

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Maybe StD and Ceph have scum in them but i doubt Furtive.
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Post Post #612 (isolation #40) » Tue Feb 28, 2023 8:31 am

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In post 280, Detective Penguin wrote:
In post 277, Firebringer wrote: its very rude how penguin is stealling all my votes
I'm happy to be a day 1 info wagon for once. Let me have this.
In post 462, Detective Penguin wrote: Or annoyed cereal killer?
I’ve read Detective Penguins ISO and i feel like there’s something off about it. I kinda get SK vibes ngl. It’s mainly these two posts in particular that vibe strangely with me.
"Happy to be a day 1 info wagon" is an take i would expect from someone that basically has the thought of being unalligned in their mind. It’s also a strange thing to say in the first place for either a townie or a scum. But a SK could definitely slip up on this.
Second one is also seemingly a strange thing to utter out of the blue. Why are they theorizing that i’m possibly an "annoyed seriia killer"? This lines up with an tell i’ve gotten from typical third-party slots where they will accuse others of third-party acts when they are the third-party themselves.

Just one of these might be slightly telling by themselves, but both? That’s enough to raise my suspicion level to a much higher level.

Oh and pre-answering this likely question. Why am i focusing on finding SK here? Well dear reader, i’m angry i didn’t roll SK myself so i’m trying to ruin the day of the one that rolled it by exposing them early :)
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Post Post #614 (isolation #41) » Tue Feb 28, 2023 8:33 am

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In post 611, Save The Dragons wrote: Norwee is potential scum because he's not doing anything to advance the game state and he did nothing in business company to do so and he was scum there.
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Post Post #618 (isolation #42) » Tue Feb 28, 2023 8:38 am

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Hehe yeah Firebringer is so "town". (Guys play along so he doesn’t feel bad)
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Post Post #624 (isolation #43) » Tue Feb 28, 2023 8:41 am

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In post 619, Detective Penguin wrote:
In post 612, NorwegianboyEE wrote: Second one is also seemingly a strange thing to utter out of the blue. Why are they theorizing that i’m possibly an "annoyed seriia killer"? This lines up with an tell i’ve gotten from typical third-party slots where they will accuse others of third-party acts when they are the third-party themselves.
Out of the blue? It was a response to FB's "annoyed town" and I wanted to set it up for this gif but the opportunity never presented itself

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That’s still a random thing to say yo.
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Post Post #625 (isolation #44) » Tue Feb 28, 2023 8:41 am

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In post 620, biancospino wrote:
In post 612, NorwegianboyEE wrote:
Oh and pre-answering this likely question. Why am i focusing on finding SK here? Well dear reader, i’m angry i didn’t roll SK myself so i’m trying to ruin the day of the one that rolled it by exposing them early :)
So despite the fact you wanted to roll SK, you didn't bother checking how the SK worked?
Yup, got a problem with that?
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Post Post #627 (isolation #45) » Tue Feb 28, 2023 8:42 am

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Fire if you don’t behave you’re gonna have to sit on the time-out chair.
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Post Post #653 (isolation #46) » Tue Feb 28, 2023 10:29 am

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In post 644, Save The Dragons wrote: All I remember norwee doing this game is the screw you I'm taking my ball and going home post and the town town town post
Yeah human memory never fails am i right?
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Post Post #654 (isolation #47) » Tue Feb 28, 2023 10:32 am

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In post 649, DragonEater70 wrote: I am not SK hunting in the least. I'm just giving my thoughts on what vibes you personally give me.
"Not SK hunting but you do give me SK vibes"
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Post Post #655 (isolation #48) » Tue Feb 28, 2023 10:33 am

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Not saying i think it’s a bad thing to SK hunt the cognitive dissonance is funny.
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Post Post #656 (isolation #49) » Tue Feb 28, 2023 10:34 am

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In post 652, Save The Dragons wrote: I have a pet scumread on firebringer cuz I feel town firebringer is more relaxed and this firebringer feels a little stiffer and tryhardy.

But I'm not confident on this one
I have the opposite impression. I feel that Firebringer as scum would be very buddy buddy to a point where it’s sickly sweet like grandma trying to shove into you dessert after a huge meal.
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Post Post #671 (isolation #50) » Tue Feb 28, 2023 12:49 pm

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Omg mod confirned it’s not possibly theater between Flea/Kawaii. Never SvS
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Post Post #672 (isolation #51) » Tue Feb 28, 2023 12:52 pm

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I mean Kawaii was never scum anyway but i’m not gonna miss an opportunity to make the moderator start sweating.
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Post Post #673 (isolation #52) » Tue Feb 28, 2023 12:55 pm

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Std your reads are ass in this game, are you scum?
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Post Post #674 (isolation #53) » Tue Feb 28, 2023 1:03 pm

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Feeling either a Penguin or STD vote at the moment. Flea i don’t have a good read on cus all they post just makes no sense to me. Maybe town?
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Post Post #675 (isolation #54) » Tue Feb 28, 2023 1:15 pm

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In post 639, Cephrir wrote: The first post makes sense in the context of who penguin is
Ok, but i have no idea who they are.
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Post Post #677 (isolation #55) » Tue Feb 28, 2023 1:16 pm

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??
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Post Post #680 (isolation #56) » Tue Feb 28, 2023 1:17 pm

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Obviously not.
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Post Post #682 (isolation #57) » Tue Feb 28, 2023 1:18 pm

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Ok crazy man. Ramble on.
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Post Post #684 (isolation #58) » Tue Feb 28, 2023 1:20 pm

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Oh Penguinpower? I thought this was some rando from 2019
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Post Post #686 (isolation #59) » Tue Feb 28, 2023 1:21 pm

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What would i gain from being intentionally dense?
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Post Post #688 (isolation #60) » Tue Feb 28, 2023 1:22 pm

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Dumb theory, but kay since ur Penguin guess your attitude fits.

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Post Post #690 (isolation #61) » Tue Feb 28, 2023 1:26 pm

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I didn’t read the sign up thread btw Fire just sent me link on Discord and i joined, they can confirm.
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Post Post #697 (isolation #62) » Tue Feb 28, 2023 1:42 pm

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In post 695, Save The Dragons wrote: I dunno just the way you're posting
Can you try to explain a little harder.
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Post Post #703 (isolation #63) » Tue Feb 28, 2023 1:52 pm

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In post 702, Save The Dragons wrote: Look I feel like fb is more likely to try and lead and do some reads and stuff as scum, more likely to just meme the entire time as town. He's a bit too serious
Basically the opposite of what i believe huh.
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Post Post #741 (isolation #64) » Wed Mar 01, 2023 1:49 am

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Wow, i’m being called an "distraction" :(
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Post Post #796 (isolation #65) » Wed Mar 01, 2023 8:38 am

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I feel like there is more reason to vote Bianco while the Cephrir votes just seem kinda random to me.
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Post Post #853 (isolation #66) » Thu Mar 02, 2023 7:55 am

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In post 841, Save The Dragons wrote: VOTE: flea
I kinda feel the same way after those Flea posts ngl.
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Post Post #854 (isolation #67) » Thu Mar 02, 2023 7:56 am

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In post 838, Flea The Magician wrote: Oh and the moment I'm overly friendly or nervous I'm scum...

The moment i start putting effort in that's my actual big scum tell...


Problem of being a player with infinite scumrange...

Welcome to the new world
Open up the gates of paradise
So let's get cynical
Run into a new maze
Open up your minds
And soon we'll all
Be drop dead cynical

Be drop dead cynical

Be drop dead cynical
This is starting to sound like ME when i don't know what to say cus rolled scum so i just start dropping songs and poems.
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Post Post #868 (isolation #68) » Thu Mar 02, 2023 11:05 am

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In post 860, Flea The Magician wrote: So, VOTE: Gimli and lets see how we go.

You're the only one who actually appears to have pushed me, at most everyone else has just nudged me and it's all based on frankly NAI stuff with me.
Interesting push.
Will say idk what to think of Gimli this game. I feel like there's a lot of slots saying it's so town and etc, but i don't really feel the same way at all. Just kinda weird vibes.
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Post Post #869 (isolation #69) » Thu Mar 02, 2023 11:06 am

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I know i said they seemed town in first pages but recent content has seemed strange. Maybe i'm just grasping tho cus i agree this game is hard and it's d1.
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Post Post #870 (isolation #70) » Thu Mar 02, 2023 11:07 am

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@Kawaii
What is your current scumreads?
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Post Post #876 (isolation #71) » Thu Mar 02, 2023 11:18 am

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Looking at the slots i've kinda ignored.

Sail has so many... commentary posts... it's kinda eughhh.
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Post Post #877 (isolation #72) » Thu Mar 02, 2023 11:19 am

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In post 875, Detective Penguin wrote:
In post 870, NorwegianboyEE wrote: @Kawaii
What is your current scumreads?
Hi.
In post 802, Detective Penguin wrote: what reason do you feel there is to vote bianco?
Didn't like how they talked about me.
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Post Post #878 (isolation #73) » Thu Mar 02, 2023 11:23 am

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I wish there was more slots i townread in this game.
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Post Post #879 (isolation #74) » Thu Mar 02, 2023 11:25 am

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Only like Kawaii and maaaybe Fire but i'm also paranoid of them.
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Post Post #880 (isolation #75) » Thu Mar 02, 2023 11:27 am

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Flea i think looks hella sus one second but then i'm like "how do their play make any sense as scum?" and i'm back to maybe townish again.
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Post Post #881 (isolation #76) » Thu Mar 02, 2023 11:28 am

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Maybe Penguin town cus in our last game where we both rolled scum he just faded away into obscurity while here he's doing stuff.
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Post Post #882 (isolation #77) » Thu Mar 02, 2023 11:34 am

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Oh i like Furtive too, ok maybe it's not so bad as i thought. Lemme make a note for myself here so my pea-brain doesn't forget.
EDIT: Took a look at DragonEater too. Their ISO feels pretty townie to me so i'll put them into townish for the time being. Also they dumbtelled that mafia has 3 instead of 2 and i buy it as most likely genuine.

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Post Post #883 (isolation #78) » Thu Mar 02, 2023 11:35 am

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VOTE: Save the Dragons
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Post Post #886 (isolation #79) » Thu Mar 02, 2023 11:42 am

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They just feel genuine with their posts and i don't really see any reason to doubt my feelings on that right now.
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Post Post #887 (isolation #80) » Thu Mar 02, 2023 11:42 am

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What is ur thoughts on Sail
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Post Post #890 (isolation #81) » Thu Mar 02, 2023 11:48 am

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I if i win a Hannibal Lecter scummy i expect u all on this game to listen very attentively to my hunches on who the Cereal Killer might be.
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Post Post #901 (isolation #82) » Thu Mar 02, 2023 2:31 pm

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In post 898, Sail wrote:
In post 891, Save The Dragons wrote: Sail put bianco at e-1 and I'm not sure what the case on bianco really is.

Sail also sussed firebringer for reasons I don't really vibe with

@Sail where is your firebringer read at now
I'm leaning scum. I scumread him earlier but pretty much all of his posting since then has been null and there are people who have been more scummy recently.
Like who?
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Post Post #904 (isolation #83) » Thu Mar 02, 2023 2:41 pm

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In post 903, Detective Penguin wrote: VOTE: flea

let's see what happens. not super hopeful with the info from this since my wagon is made up of three lolvotes and a vote for proveably wrong reasons but eh.
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I feel like we should explore some more spicy wagons. Flea is like obviously not doing a whole lot of real contribution but also like i just don’t see them actually doing any acts with scum motivation?
I wanna see if slots in my PoE like STD and Sail actually are town or if they are just cruising and doing minimal content to not get scumread. Sail for example is actively lobbying to kill slots like Firebringer and the whole argumentation behind it just feels kinda disingenuous? I don’t get why they have most of the reads they do naturally it just seems kinda weird.

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Penguin too, they seem to be doung stuff for real. I actually liked how they seemed to think i was scum for a silly reason because their attitude suggested they were really considering it, so i’m leaning town on them too.
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Post Post #908 (isolation #86) » Thu Mar 02, 2023 3:15 pm

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Two days is a long time. Votes can easily change in that time as long as anyone has a decent case.
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Post Post #916 (isolation #87) » Thu Mar 02, 2023 9:06 pm

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In post 913, Flea The Magician wrote: And Ceph, because thats all D1 is anyway, who can shout the loudest and convince everyone their D12 or whatever roll is better.
I sure do "love" this attitude.

Guys d1 isn’t worth doing anything, you heard it here folks. In fact, why even post at all? Let’s just all go do nothing cus day 1 is just RNG anyway.

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Post Post #917 (isolation #88) » Thu Mar 02, 2023 9:07 pm

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Like sure, do nothing but don’t use some BS excuse to pretend like you’re justified. Ur just being lazy.
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Post Post #918 (isolation #89) » Thu Mar 02, 2023 9:10 pm

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In post 914, KawaiiKame wrote: UNVOTE: Detective_Penguin
Plz i wanna hear ur thoughts on the game.
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Post Post #924 (isolation #90) » Thu Mar 02, 2023 11:24 pm

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In post 923, KawaiiKame wrote:Idk why you wanted to begin a Sail wagon exactly
I feel like they've been a bit under the radar so i wanted to put some attention on them to see what people think.
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Post Post #930 (isolation #91) » Fri Mar 03, 2023 2:10 am

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In post 925, Flea The Magician wrote:
In post 917, NorwegianboyEE wrote: Like sure, do nothing but don’t use some BS excuse to pretend like you’re justified. Ur just being lazy.
Norwee, im going to give you one chance to retract that before I go Hellsinger on you.

And I aint screwing around.
For what? Simple criticism of D1 play? I don’t care if you’re not screwing around i got the moral right to criticize anyone i want as long as it’s within limits. And if you can’t handle something as tame as being called out for an attitude of not thinking day 1 is worth playing to get reads then i don’t feel even slightly in the wrong if you’re going to get insulted over that.
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Post Post #968 (isolation #92) » Fri Mar 03, 2023 9:17 am

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In post 935, Flea The Magician wrote: Norwee you made a whole song and dance previously of your out of game circumstances. You also know I have chronic pain issues.

It took me 1 hour to do a 15 minute walk yesterday. It took me 4 hours to psych up to that and i passed out for an hour after. The fact i posted at all is amazing and my dedication to this game. But hey I'm lazy.

I never said D1 isnt worth playing, so dont twist what I said. I said D1 is crap because theres nothing solid and its basically rand what happens. D1 bores me more often than not. Doesnt mean you dont hunt, doesnt mean I dont take notes, and it doesnt mean im not watching.

So may I suggest you sit down, let me do my thing, and ill let you do yours.
Yeah you're well justified in feeling mad about that... if it was what i was even saying, which i was not.
You can be fighting a snowstorm for 23 hours a day just to get to that computer and make a post, point is i don't like how you say that day 1 is pointless and we can't get reads blah blah. Has literally nothing to do with whatever other problems you may have in your life. In fact, that's when you can say "I'm not gonna post a whole lot for now because of RL" and that's perfectly fine.
But yes, i'd love to let you do your thing, but i'm not gonna retract the fact that i think every single person that says "ugh, day 1 sucks cus impossible to get reads" have an attitude i don't agree with.
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Post Post #976 (isolation #93) » Fri Mar 03, 2023 9:33 am

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Kay just gonna ignore Flea cus of the domineering attitude.
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Post Post #977 (isolation #94) » Fri Mar 03, 2023 9:34 am

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In post 967, Firebringer wrote: Town: Norwee, Gimli, Kawaii
Weak Town: Cephrir, Sail, Penguin, Flea
Null" Furtive, Fenrir,
Weak Scum: Dragoneater, Bianco
Why do you scumread Dragoneater?
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Post Post #981 (isolation #95) » Fri Mar 03, 2023 9:37 am

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In post 978, Flea The Magician wrote: As someone who is called lazy often by various ignorami, I do take a large amount of offence to it as its something used often to belittle and degrade me.
I do apologize for offending you on this specifically.
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Post Post #988 (isolation #96) » Fri Mar 03, 2023 9:43 am

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In post 982, Gimli wrote: pedit: don't apologize lol fae is being super mean to multiple people here
No no i do want to apologize for triggering Flea because of my usage of the word "lazy", although i do not think it is worthy the response they gave me, it was very rude and they have continued being rude and even said i should not join any game with them in the future which is quite frankly an overreaction and it sucks that apparently it was so egregious that they see no other solution than to ban me from their sight.
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Post Post #993 (isolation #97) » Fri Mar 03, 2023 9:50 am

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In post 982, Gimli wrote:do we wanna go bianco instead today?

pls @std @fb @norwee halp
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Post Post #995 (isolation #98) » Fri Mar 03, 2023 9:52 am

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VOTE: Bianco
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Post Post #997 (isolation #99) » Fri Mar 03, 2023 9:54 am

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I've learned that you don't like being called Lazy, i'm still gonna call Firebringer a lazy fuck.
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Post Post #1031 (isolation #100) » Sat Mar 04, 2023 1:00 am

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If Flea is town (which is my current assumption) then i think it makes Gimli more likely town than scum. Or SK.
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Post Post #1032 (isolation #101) » Sat Mar 04, 2023 1:01 am

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Their push in later pages here seems genuine to me.
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Post Post #1033 (isolation #102) » Sat Mar 04, 2023 1:04 am

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I'm fine flipping Bianco still. A Vanilla Town claim doesn't mean much in an open setup because we already know which roles are available.
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Post Post #1039 (isolation #103) » Sat Mar 04, 2023 2:13 am

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Nothing wrong with leading the town even if your reads aren't the best.
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Post Post #1048 (isolation #104) » Sat Mar 04, 2023 4:17 am

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That's a whole lot of finger pointing and pre-flip association in this page. So this better hit scum.
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Post Post #1071 (isolation #105) » Sat Mar 04, 2023 6:16 am

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Or mayb Bianco is the SK!
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Post Post #1098 (isolation #106) » Mon Mar 06, 2023 8:13 am

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In post 1086, Gimli wrote: well I should hardclaim anyway

I'm the town cannibal

last night I ate sail

they were mafia
My read on Sail was right?
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Post Post #1099 (isolation #107) » Mon Mar 06, 2023 8:21 am

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In post 910, Gimli wrote:
Spoiler: some things from sail's ISO
In post 482, Sail wrote:
In post 95, Firebringer wrote: What would scum u do differently coming into this game?
This is the kind of pointless, open-ended question that I often see scum ask.
agree with this take and like the scumhunting posting from sail
In post 483, Sail wrote:
In post 102, Firebringer wrote:
In post 98, Gimli wrote: you're the one making associatives already. have I said I was sure you're scum, or have I said I don't believe your reactions to me?
u immediately said i was white knighting for kawaii, which to me was TMI that u knew kawaii was town. I don't know how u come to conclusion i was white knighting when i have not said a word about kawaii.

For all i know ur bussing kawaii but ur reaction tells me thats unlikely.
This is quite bad. Players often accuse others of white-knighting precisely because it seems like they are scum defending a town. Firebringer tries to frame this interaction as if Gimli thought that Firebringer’s scumread of Gimli was scummy, but Firebringer doesn’t acknowledge the possibility that there was a specific characteristic of his scumread that alerted Gimli that Firebringer was white-knighting.
So far, both Gimli and Firebringer seem scummy. Despite this, their interaction doesn’t seem like S/S. This is because of Firebringer’s slightly disingenuous characterization of Gimli’s posts. In my experience, scumpartners who are bussing try to fully understand their scumpartner’s posts before attacking them.
I like all of this as towny even though I disagree with the core of it.
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In post 113, KawaiiKame wrote:
In post 109, Firebringer wrote: i like kawaii questioning
Why? I'm inquisitive by nature, so I like it too
I'm asking 2 late, Ik why now
This is fairly towny. I don’t think that scum would question Firebringer’s early townread on them, and this post feels like genuine sorting.
this is a good perception of kawaii and +town points for sail imo.
In post 521, Sail wrote:
In post 220, Gimli wrote: I hate people townreading me, it makes the game harder to solve, but I like the people that did tr me except for cephrir
This type of metacognition tends to come from town.
it's true and good perception imo.
In post 592, Sail wrote:
In post 287, Firebringer wrote: i dont think ive been all that townie.
so i don't feel that great about dragon eater calling me town this fast.
On the other hand, this type of questioning a townread that another player has on them is scummy, as opposed to Kawaii's . The difference is that here, Firebringer uses it as an opportunity to shade Dragon. Meanwhile, Kawaii asked questions in in order to get a better read on Firebringer.
kind of dislike the comparison thing, seems to be more of a thing wolves post to appear towny, but the comparison makes sense and FB is scummier or at least way more performative doing it than kawaii, who just appears to be genuine abt it.
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Flea wrote:
Ceph wrote:
FB wrote: hey cephrir u have a gun
who would u eat right now

Furtive. Struggles to post as scum
Disagree. Has been a while admittedly, and I also think we're a little early to be dropping lines like that.

Scrolling sees that you admit you're wrong, cool. Still don't like how early that lines come out.
I think that because Cephrir admitted that he was wrong without being pushed about it indicates a town thought process. It seems more likely to me that Cephrir wasn’t paying enough attention to the game and then went back and reevaluated.
In post 687, Sail wrote:
In post 643, DragonEater70 wrote: I'm a bit lazy to scroll through the entire ISO (or even more than a handful of posts). What I did see is that in Mutiny, Scum!Flea was putting on a pretense of scumhunting and participating which I don't really see here, and which actually made me townread them in Mutiny. So I guess bc they are scummier they are town? Is that what you guys are seeing?
In that game, it seemed that Flea cared a lot more about how other people saw them. Flea felt more of a need to justify their, albeit valid, reasons why they were away/not reading than in this game. What most stuck out to me about Flea's ISO in HMS Mutiny is that it seemed like Flea was either faking being friendly, or Flea was more nervous - I can't tell which. Either way, I don't perceive this to be how Flea is playing in this game.
I almost like this enough to feel bad about wagoning flea.



sail is like very likely town and a bad wagon imo.
Btw Gimli, at no point last day did you call Sail anything but town so why did you shoot them?
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Post Post #1101 (isolation #108) » Mon Mar 06, 2023 8:31 am

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Sorry to immediately move back into paranoia but this setup is like gold for scum to fake claime town cannibal if they are shot day 1 so i'll err on the side of caution and not call you locktown here, even if i'm more on the "Probably Gimli just town" territory.
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Post Post #1106 (isolation #109) » Mon Mar 06, 2023 8:36 am

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In post 1103, Save The Dragons wrote: Ok I'm dietician and firebringer is cannibal.

VOTE: firebringer
Whaaat.
Nooo not an betrayal from Fire of all people.
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Post Post #1108 (isolation #110) » Mon Mar 06, 2023 8:37 am

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Would they be the SK then? I read Sail's ISO and it feels like Sail/Fire aren't aligned.
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Post Post #1111 (isolation #111) » Mon Mar 06, 2023 8:38 am

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I wanna read Fire's defense before i do anything.
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Post Post #1113 (isolation #112) » Mon Mar 06, 2023 8:40 am

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I was ready for another intense day why you guys gotta make it so trivial.
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Post Post #1120 (isolation #113) » Mon Mar 06, 2023 8:56 am

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In post 1119, furtiveglance wrote:
In post 1118, Gimli wrote: I'm eating furtive tonight cause I think he'd kill the peng
Gimli please

Don't make me beg

Eat DragonEater and you'll be top of the food chain
Sounds like auto anyway.
Well, it was fun.
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Post Post #1124 (isolation #114) » Mon Mar 06, 2023 9:37 am

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Oki.
VOTE: Firebringer
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Post Post #1125 (isolation #115) » Mon Mar 06, 2023 9:38 am

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I'll vote fast night.
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Post Post #1127 (isolation #116) » Mon Mar 06, 2023 9:41 am

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I heard he eats dragons.
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Post Post #1129 (isolation #117) » Mon Mar 06, 2023 9:45 am

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So sad your distancing act with Sail got undone by a literal double check from both PR's.
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Post Post #1132 (isolation #118) » Mon Mar 06, 2023 9:56 am

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Vanilla Townie - biancospino (Dead)
Vanilla Townie
Vanilla Townie
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Vanilla Townie
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Town Dietician - Save The Dragons (Alive)
Town Roleblocker - Cephrir (Alive)
Town Cannibal Vigilante - Gimli (Alive)

Cannibal Mafia Goon - Sail (Dead)
Cannibal Mafia Goon - Firebringer (Alive)

Cereal Killer


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Post Post #1133 (isolation #119) » Mon Mar 06, 2023 9:56 am

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So SK in here somewhere.
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Post Post #1139 (isolation #120) » Mon Mar 06, 2023 10:00 am

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We can kill, roleblock, investigate in just one night in that PoE. GG
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Post Post #1142 (isolation #121) » Mon Mar 06, 2023 10:01 am

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Oh right.
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Post Post #1145 (isolation #122) » Mon Mar 06, 2023 10:03 am

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Now there's too much complexity for my brain to process.
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Post Post #1149 (isolation #123) » Mon Mar 06, 2023 10:05 am

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Dragoneater how dared you roll SK instead of me.
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Post Post #1151 (isolation #124) » Mon Mar 06, 2023 10:07 am

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You should be grateful they brought you away from that harsh street life as a criminal.
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Post Post #1153 (isolation #125) » Mon Mar 06, 2023 10:09 am

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I didn't locktown you or anything tho.
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Post Post #1178 (isolation #126) » Mon Mar 06, 2023 11:16 am

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Was it actually Furtive then?
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Post Post #1182 (isolation #127) » Mon Mar 06, 2023 11:19 am

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Did nobody think i could be SK.
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Post Post #1211 (isolation #128) » Wed Mar 08, 2023 9:38 pm

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That’s a G and a G
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