Open 300 - Mafia on Midol (Town Wins!)

[Oman]

Mo'Fuckers

I'm in the game! As I said to Panda, I'm currently moving across Australia, but am in a motel tonight. I'll give you the low down on this hoe down once I've read through it.


12 pages? What the fuck, team?

[Oman]

I know Oman. 'S cool.\

Hey Plum-diggity, good to see you again.

vote: Xine

She knows what she did

Wasted post

FoS: Sudo

Yeah, this is a tell in my limited experience.

~Post 100s, I don't dig DH's "trap"



Just finished page 7, DH is the lynch so far.

Crazy's unvote of DH is super interesting. It makes me think of Crazyscum DH-town (jumping off a wagon like that is an easy way to build major towncred)

Before I start, I'd like to point out that Oman has yet to post. The game only started yesterday, so I'm not super worried yet, but I'd like an awareness made.

Hi dude.

@Mod: replace me.

I just broke my mouse. I have a life changing interview tomorrow and this shit is never ending pissing me off, and it's just a game.

Might replace out of all my games, but starting with this one.

Before I go, fuck you, Fate, for calling me a weak player.

Lol, this is weak play, how funny.

Oman hasn't even posted yet.

Hey mate.




Wow, what an exceptionally dragging 12 pages.

Uh...sudo or crazy both good lynches.

Vote: Crazy

Cause I suspect sudo is L-1.

[Oman]

Who is Punkin btw?

[Oman]

Who is Punkin btw?

Punkin is a Xine and Ythill hydra.

Holyshitawesome. <3, <3, <3!

Crazy's unvote of DH is super interesting. It makes me think of Crazyscum DH-town (jumping off a wagon like that is an easy way to build major towncred)

What should I have done if I was town and didn't believe in the DH wagon?

The same. Sucks eh? Mafia does that shit. You'd do it differently though, I'm sure. Perhaps with less bravado. I didn't like the way you jumped off it like it was the most obvious thing in the world, when

It's how I'm trying to scum-hunt; my suspicions aren't solid yet and I'm applying pressure to different people to try to figure out their alignment

So here is where I ask: is (s)he actually town or what?

Someone has less posts than I do?
/catchinguplatertonightafterdinner

Why did you choose to talk about puppy training in General Discussion instead of keeping your promise to post after dinner in this game?

Without being a jerk, I hate these posts.

@Oman - You've previously indicated them both Crazy and Sudo aare good lynches. Any reason you're not on the bigger of the two wagons?

As I said, I suspected Sudo was L-1, and it's not lynch time yet. This is actually the post:

Wow, what an exceptionally dragging 12 pages.

Uh...sudo or crazy both good lynches.

Vote: Crazy Cause I suspect sudo is L-1.

[Oman]

Rather than quoting them, I'm going to say this one:

I thought Sudo was on L-1 not because I was looking for an excuse, but because I hadn't counted the votes.

Unvote Vote Sudo

[Oman]

This is suuuuper silly.

[Oman]

Scum hopped on Sudo's wagon in the last flurry of votes. Count on it.

I agree. One, maybe two, but no more.


Punkin, mate/honey, surely if you think chkflip is first to sudo, sudo would be the better vote due to a closer proximity to lynch?

[Oman]

Good news with the Sudo-Stall:

If he's town, scum are on the wagon already.

[Oman]

Twilight Sparkle is so fucking awesome. I was going to post something about how I hate you all, but that cheered me up.



Anyway, Sudo loses a lot of my respect unless he's scum. Whatever, dudes.

[Oman]

Back from V/LA with a lot to read.

Hopefully this weekend I'll have a lot for you all.

[Oman]

Fate's death does make me feel even better about a Nobody Special vote, possibly even a Cyberbob one as well.

I don't get this connection.

Vote: LlamaFluff

The amounts of coaching towards NS in particular sits even worse with everything else that he has been slumming about, regarding NS and otherwise.

This is interesting, I'll have to look if that actually occurred.

NS self-hammers a lot, so I'm not putting too much cred in his self-hammer equalling heavy scum involvement (as per Punkin).

@Oman Inn - what way have your reads progressed since day one?

I feel Punkin is town now, which is making me second guess myself. I need to do a full re-read, but I'm being swayed on chkflip. I'm also thinking that you're scum these days, but I need to review that too.

It seems like NS mostly ignored his buddies.

What brought you to this conclusion?

Oman is another poor looking vote. He really hasn't been present in this game at all and I wouldn't be surprised if he flipped scum as a result.

Not "as a result", my alignment and my absenteeism are not linked.

yeah Oman TOTALLY FUCKING KNOWS Sudo is flipping town

Nope, there were two options: Either sudo was scum and was strategically lurking, or Sudo was town and was pussying out instead of helping the town.

this post is fucking awful. ten dollars says Oman knew Sudo was flipping town

I'll take that bet.



Anyway: responsepost done, now I have to do an analysis reread. On the whole, I really feel out of the loop. I don't know where we got this conclusion that NS wouldn't be interacting with his scumbuddies at all. It's been put forward as a forgone conclusion by both Punkin and Sparkle, and I'm not sure of it's origins.

[Oman]

Ranmaru, we have enough posts in this thread without you doing....whatever you're doing. Stop it.

[Oman]

Running with AGar first (theoretically having more links being alive longer and all):

AGar's first comment on the game was defending Papa Zito in that roundabout way of calling his attacker scum. Not that I'm saying DH's scumtrap was any good, but AGar's input here is interesting. There was plenty of incentive for AGar to sit out here: DH had proven himself firey, there was plenty of argument. AGar didn't need to say a word.

There is a lot of interaction with Thor that doesn't

need

to be there. There isn't any distancing, but at some points it feels super familiar.

Thor:

Do you and AGar play together often, or are you familiar with each other

AGar calls out Sudo on his positions, no need for a scum-member to bring that limelight.

Then again he does that later for Papa Zito too. This annoys me.

Doesn't like Punkin's vote on Llama, quite vehemently.

Zito - Town. Elaborated on this.
Thor - Mixed. I get fairly good logic from his posting, but Zito's 725 highlights some pitfalls in Thortown.
Llama - Town. Mislead, but town.
SocioPath - Leaning scummish because he seems to be playing in a way that makes him intentionally difficult to read.

Socio looks like a good partner candidate there, as does Thor. In my experience (and granted this is a general tell) Scum will call less certainty on their partners. If that fails, I'd say him calling Llama town fits the above disagreement.

Llama calls for an AGar claim early. Def not seeing partners in there.

His treatment of crazy leads me to think Crazytown (heh), especially where he says "you [crazy] are scum regardless of DH's alignment".

From that: Crazy = town, Llama = likely town.


NS doesn't have that much. Basically I don't see much out of the Sociopath vote except a last ditch distance...maybe.




Look, I've always played gut. I've read through the two known scum, in ISO and where required in context, and I've read through my two biggest suspects (Socio and Thor) and right now, Thor is biting the biggest. Considering he's not at L-1, I have no misgivings in this:

mod

: any reason for the Thor selfvote, I just read through twice and I can't see it

Yeah that was supposed to be chkflip. Fixed now, thanks. : )

VOTE: Thor

[Oman]

Um... Oman...

When you're doing all that rereading stuff, you might want to check the list of dead players. One of your lead suspects is kinda on it. Also, he was town.

UNVOTE: Thor
VOTE: chkflip

Not interested in L-1 yet.

I had it open, I just didn't double check. I suck.

Will you still love me?

[Oman]

Just promise me that after Llama confirms me, you'll do what we say.

No. Just cause you're town doesn't mean you're right!

[Oman]

I'm more accurate

than you

. No offense.

..huh, ouch.

[Oman]

And yeah, I'm good with lynching Chk. I'd think he could be connected to Bob somehow. Don't get his town read on him. (He states that he thinks Bob is town because he THINKS bob wouldn't bus a buddy or two that early) and I don't get why Bob came in to prove that he'd do it or not. I'll read it soon and give thoughts.

Unvote
Vote: Chkflip

This is your great counter-wagon? Also, massivescumpoints for making this jump when yours starts to build speed.

[Oman]

Crazy, what do mean that Ran is a "safe lynch"?

[Oman]

Crazy: why did you not hammer. You seem to have Ranlynch as a forgone conclusion, but you're not acting on it.


Ran: I hate people that do that. You're not endearing yourself to me at all.

[Oman]

Yup I'm confirmed mate.

Vote NoLynch

[Oman]

Cool. Now as long as Llama didn't investigate Plum, we have 4/9 players confirmed, with at least one more investigation guaranteed, since the doctor is still alive. That would mean an automatic town win, unless if I'm missing something.

So, I guess Llama just claims now, and I think we can just wrap this up?

Does this still hold if Llama's innocents are killed? I.e. if say I die tonight, do we still have this "auto-win" to fall back on.


Llama, can you confirm that you did in fact receive an innocent tonight, which brings your total (including yourself) to 4?


I don't really get the chkflip hate, but I have been promising to read him for a long time. Looks like i have work to do.

[Oman]

I'm with Llama regarding the claim preceeding the lynch. We can't risk losing a doctor to foolishness.

[Oman]

Oh, look, I will cease this reread then. I honestly didn't come up with much anyway.

[Oman]

Uggggghhh this was a first game back after a major hiatus, and it shows. I was horrible!

I didn't pick CES or Punkin (except when Punkin said "when I'm confirmed, just follow me")

Thanks Singer (you did great!), town well played, scum I thought you deserved better.