Open 295 -- Island Paradise Mafia -- Game Over

[yabbaguy]

Vote: ToastyToast

because me no like RQS.

[yabbaguy]

All right, we'll try it:

cjdrum - are you scum? Also, tell me what your favorite flavor of ice cream is or you're scum.

[yabbaguy]

DRK, ABR in MD has a point, let the game breathe.

Unvote

[yabbaguy]

Yabba: why are you trying to stop DRK?

Not mute him, just remind him that throwing in strings of posts in a rapid manner, even if they're contentful, just don't stack to being pro-Town.

Jora, ABR is Rampage, and I'm referencing this.

[yabbaguy]

I know that I don't know, farside. No thanks that I've made quite a few of these posts from an iPhone now, but Ive been burnt so many times in past games as well by trying to solve the puzzle way too many times.

Jora, why are you asking me about vigilante strategy?

[yabbaguy]

It's bad to ask a question in return, mmkay? But why not? I know that you've been playing this setup before and I want to know your opinion on that theme. Did you noticed that we are currently disscussing it with DRK? Or did you thought that it's only our business?
I see you are trying to avoid a flammable matters, aren't you? Yes. You call it "to let the game breathe".
No, no, no. If you wanna win this you should collaborate. Or I call you a Lurker and eat you!

If your question is rolefishing, I will question your questionable question. "It's bad to ask a question" just isn't right.

Nothing's happened other than fruitless setup speculation and the typically crappy RQS, so saying that I'm dodging "flammable matters" or lurking is wrong.

I'll ask again, why are you asking me that N0 vig question?

[yabbaguy]

Hang the fuck on. Someone Unvote and let's talk more. Jora is an idiot wagon that is getting opportunistically run up.

I'm slogging through schoolwork, but my forerunning theory is that fitz's swoop in is the worst.

vote havingfitz

[yabbaguy]

He was at L-1, and I had only my humble iPhone as a weapon against an idiotic idiot quicklynch D1. Hence, brash post.

DRK was spewing out inaccuracies with his list of 14 about how Jora was *wrong*, not really scummy. The only one that holds weight is the fact that Jora was asking some really touchy rolefishing questions.

havingfitz is voting Jora yet FOSing DRK, which doesn't stack in my mind. Couple that with the vote opportunism near the end of the wagon and you've got a scummy combo.

ToastyToast is pinging scummy as well though -

}|{opa, unvote yourself.

Why don't you? Either you think he's a good lynch, keep your vote, and just let him bleed himself to death or you think he's a bad lynch and you unvote yourself. You did neither, so your actions don't make sense.

Thirdly, just the speed of the wagon, and gadzooks that's a quick wagon by my definition. Something in me really, really felt that there was opportunism abound, and I turned to the one who came on late with a reasoning that just didn't stack in my mind.

Seriously a wagon that's just very, very, very, very, very, very well too quickly developed for my liking.

[yabbaguy]

Your vote suggests that you want to end the Day. You're putting us closer and closer to an outcome that you don't want yourself.

Your logical move is to unvote yourself if you do not want the lynch at this time.

[yabbaguy]

(quickpost)

}|{opa = Jora. Read his sig.

[yabbaguy]

@yabbaguy - Your opinion on startransmission? Why are you silently spectating?

I think he's okay.

I really don't think this post is okay though:

@startransmission. Where did you found "invisible text"?
"I have been lurking..." yes, "hard for me" not my problem - be good or replace out, "policy lynches" So what with policy lynches? Where did you saw one?
"Puzzled by this" - and thats all what you got?

@DeathRowKitty. What a nice person you are! I can't even FoS you. Just can't. I hope you not a scum.

Since animorph failed to pick up prod and very likely will be replaced I should
UNVOTE:
VOTE: startransmission

How does the vote somehow have basis in animorpherv1 getting replaced?

How you find startransmission's "behavior", as you put it, scummy?

How do you say to DRK "how nice of you?" [presumably because of his Unvote: Jora?] I mean, what sort of logic is there?

Umm...

Unvote

again.

The actives aren't really being that scummy, to be honest. There are lurkers abound (no Jora, I'm not one) and I'm starting to think there could be something to find from those who are saying little-to-nothing.

Jora is creeping into speculative status, but my mind's still hurting about that quick wagon. This is a required question to everyone who was on the Jora wagon initially, but what does everyone make of the quickwagon on him earlier?

[yabbaguy]

[post later]

Procrastinated on a project- have to complete that first.

[yabbaguy]

I care more about Optimize than a sluggish game on D1.

Again, [post later]. I've only broken one of those posting promises ever.

[yabbaguy]

@farside & havingfitz: bullet point case on each other, please, you've both lost me. Also havingfitz, your --->maddening<---- use of

EMPHASIS

is

totally unnecessary.

And now fitz has gone to ranting scum. Just when I was starting to think I was wrong in my initial read.
There is stubborn and then there is ranting for no reason which is exactly how fitz last post reads.
You again made no point in your post. Rambling, pissy comments that don't all fit together.

'splainy?

painting my vote as hypocritcal and opportunistic (which you have not responded to my question of) is bumping you up into contention on my suspect list.

Is she doing this on purpose, or do you think she's misguided? There's a very gigundo difference between the two, and I don't buy this.

Call it pot-kettle-black all you want, but I'm still of the belief that scum are in the mega-lurkers. 'Cause there is no pot-kettle-black, that's the tu quoque fallacy. Trouble is, I don't know which lurker 'cause they haven't done anything actively scummy. ._.

[yabbaguy]

So, may be we should just lynch the animorph/bv slot as a compromise, and voilà! day is over, scum lynched. I saw star at least maked some attempts, but animorph/bv slot is a totally abusive null.

Scummy post. Are you seriously offering this as our lynch? What would that gain? How does that compromise? Why is a *null* slot scum?

@havingfitz: I don't get how you're offering that scum list based on activity, and still somehow suggesting that farside is scum by sticking the vote. You're even saying she's *tunneling.*

Which is it?

[yabbaguy]

Fair.

But "tunneling" is a Townsperson's condition, that's a genuine shortcoming where they are compulsively and inaccurately finding you to be scummy from progressively stupider and stupider things. If it's scum, it's called "deliberately contriving", or something like that. You can't have it both ways.

So which is it?

[yabbaguy]

You're being equally useless, Jora. But that was a mistake for me to call you scum that last post, I forgot about the Towntell of getting wagonned quickly and, I hate to say it, but the "fuck this game, I'll be a martyr" self-vote is a wicked big Towntell.

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We need to increase accountability in this game. People need to swing votes in all directions to get people to pay attention. Everyone's in this stupid narcissistic mode at the moment, and I'll admit farside helped me realize that. That said, farside, you're wrong, I am doing all I can, I'm just not voting as recklessly as I have before.

Vote: startransmission

A good start. I don't like Jora's bv reasons a) because he's now the millionth person to use that stupid ???-PROFIT cliché and b) because it lynches a null slot where an at least somewhat active slot could actually buy us something.

star's posting compulsively in another game and neglecting this one. I wanted to go for DeathRowKitty, but that is just a one-off, easily detached vote. Stacking on a wagon is much more effective in a game where Apathy Mode has initiated way ahead of schedule.

As for possibility of being scum (all quotes star):

Do I have scum suspect(s)? Mmm. If I did I would probably be a lot more involved in the game. But then, if I were more involved in the game I might have one. I suppose one has something to do with the other.

Fencesitting.

I agree, that [Jora] wagon is the most

interesting

thing in the game so far.

That word. That's a complete nothing statement.

It being hard for me to get involved in this game is my problem, not yours. I agree. It's not a matter of me being good, when inspired I usually am, it's a matter of actually getting inspired. If I felt that doing that was impossible, I would replace out.

Blathers excessively about his actions. It's an odd tendency of scum to want to explain

everything

they do.

[yabbaguy]

The correct answer isn't to say "UH-OH, THE SLOT'S FUCKED, PANIC! LYNCH NOW!"

The setup's V??????, so there has to be 2 other scum in the game. Even if ani/bv is one such slot, there's another one about that has contributed something.

[yabbaguy]

I pick you. How you like that?

Take a guess. I bet you're secretly a psychic.

[yabbaguy]

@Toast: Scum list? You're posting a lot, but I can't tell whether you're actually aiming towards certain people or just throwing darts at the wall hoping one sticks.

CJ = not responded to my question = IGMEOY

cj hadn't even posted. I don't get why you're squawking at him for that.

Let's discuss yabbaguy's post 57. Now, first thing to notice is that it's post #57 and there are 57 Heinz varieties.

Heinz Towntell is now a 100% accurate Towntell according to my book. I approve.

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The lurking is extraordinary now. Apathy mode is caused by a lack of action- and I think there's cause for action on Jakalope. After all, startransmission has done generically scummy behaviors already, and he lurked his way out the door. See my ISO for the beginnings of my case on star.

Wagons create excitement. I mean, that's why I have such a solid Jora Towntell right now, because the wagon, although probably scum-driven, actually created something exciting. Set off more fireworks and get something to happen.

[yabbaguy]

IMO your response to their argument is disturbingly vague. Most of the fight revolved around the bandwagon on Jora, but you've given absolutely no indication of what you thought of the case on Jora, and your only point was about Farside's demeanor, and then you retracted it to say fitz/farside balance each other out in terms of scumminess (or non-scumminess??).

Can you give more specifics as to what your read of the fight is?

This, probably. See, that's why dodging questions ain't a scumtell.

BTW, Sundy, not Sunday (farside), is a guy (cjdrum).

[yabbaguy]

ZeroFang replaces bv310 effective immediately.

Oh, useless! ZeroFang's just going to lurk his way through and drive us further up the wall. >:(

(@ZF: That's me challenging you.)

@farside: What's your case on me? I'm getting frustrated; it seems as though all you have is "active lurking" and "gut reads" to justify your suspicion of me.

@Yabba: Why praytell is dodging questions not a scum tell?

Because people overlook them when reading in honest fashion. And if you do believe it's a scumtell, you dodged one of mine... why are you getting on a player for not answering a question when they hadn't even posted in the interim?

I can see bv310 scum, but am unsure about Sundy. His vote on me was odd but I saw it as a legitimate mistake of fact. On the other hand, it was still a terrible reason to vote me.

Granted, I'm of the belief that there's a lurking scum, but I'm less-than-satisfied that ToastyToast doesn't seem to actually be hunting for the scum in the actives meanwhile. ToastyToast is in that pool of lurkishness.

Couple that with the "}|{opa unvote" when he was on the wagon himself and it's

FoS: ToastyToast

.

[yabbaguy]

I'm also going to call your post on TT the pot vs kettle.

No. Not all my posts are content filled, but the ones that are content-filled actually ask questions that I follow up on and gather reads from. When I asked you and havingfitz for the bullet points, neither sounded really accurate, but they did sound genuine, so I concluded Town/Town carnage. Among other things.

ToastyToast gets the suspicion since he asks a bunch of questions... but look at how many of them go nowhere. He asks a lot of things, forms a few opinions that are full of "it seems" and "it could possibly be" (or similar), but never seem to have any basis for them. What I quoted (here it comes again):

I can see bv310 scum, but am unsure about Sundy. His vote on me was odd but I saw it as a legitimate mistake of fact. On the other hand, it was still a terrible reason to vote me.

is just pretty much the epitome of his hunk of uselessness.

You want me to explain my lack of scumhunting? Its the fact that this game has a curse of inactivity, and so I have no good information to bite on.

Presume that's accepted as the pro-Town strategy. Then everyone comes to terms that there is nothing they can do for a doomed game, and they all agree to have rocks fall and everyone die.

So this is poor.

Looking back on his ISO, he has changed his stance in almost every argument
1. It went from "jora wagon is bad" to "jora is scummy" with no vote
2. After jora wagon faded it went to "havingfitz" had the worst hop on the wagon, even though he probably gave the most reasons for his vote.
3. Then he votes startransmission when everyone begins the lurker-hunt. startransmission had the more people suspecting him in comparison to the other lurkers
Now farside brings me up and I get a yabba FOS

1. This? I don't vote based on ONE scummy post.
2. No. You'll notice it's mostly a catch-up readthrough where he actually ended up claiming his top two suspects were the ones that would then be in a massive bussing ordeal on D1 (DRK on Jora: "NO. NO. NO."). I do think fitz is Town now- but at the time, I thought it was contradictory. Hence the probing vote.
3. WAGONS ARE THE WHOLE DAMN POINT OF THE GAME. A single vote, and granted farside's solitary vote on me for inactivity did wake me up, aren't nearly as effective as a multitude going after the same player. You have to hold people accountable.
4. I'm confused.

I've read through the thread a couple times and I find yabbaguy the most suspicious mostly because of his combination of posting very little yet always being very hostile when he does post.

VOTE: yabbaguy

Vote sticks. Very little and hostile aren't scumtells, and you're the most rubbish contributor for someone who should be oozing with brilliance after so many days to contemplate. So excuse me for being a hostile bastard, but why the fuck aren't you doing something more useful and instead calling me someone who posts so little?

For fuck's sake...

Also, everyone else, I'd put a vote on ZF, but I wouldn't be able to unvote. If, say, three people chime in and say I should, I'm completely prepared to throw a vote down.

First off, I don't agree with Zeroscum. Someone pointed out it's unusual how he led up to Jora, but I don't see that after looking at his ISO.

But secondly, I don't get why you're waiting for the stamps of approval here. Don't want the Day to end too quickly? Sorry, it's ending on the 15th. :\

@Zero: That said, I also don't agree with Jora-scum. What do you reckon about the wagon that formed on him initially in addition to his selfvote? Obnoxious as he is, I think the selfvote is a Towntell and we really need to look into ToastyToast before we can settle that matter.

Jak or Toast are my preferences. Notwithstanding the condition I set above, Jak's significantly more certain. However, Toast is blathering more and more about "sorry I'm not around [useless filler topped with a cutely labelled player-by-player]".

My plan's set.

[yabbaguy]

Vote: ToastyToast

Still relatively high confidence. Call it 91.237429384710298346298237409128346201982390740981235612098374098562903874%. If you feel I misrepresented that percentage by a margin of error of +/- .002354721%, lynch me.

Please note that self-confidence bias may be a significant factor in influencing confidence threshold for this vote.

[yabbaguy]

If you feel like I've denied you what you think you deserved, maybe I did, granted, but I believe I've stated all my reasons Day 1. I don't get why you're complaining.

Your case is rubbish on the other hand.

Looking back on his ISO, he has changed his stance in almost every argument
It went from "jora wagon is bad" to "jora is scummy" with no vote
After jora wagon faded it went to "havingfitz" had the worst hop on the wagon, even though he probably gave the most reasons for his vote.
Then he votes startransmission when everyone begins the lurker-hunt. startransmission had the more people suspecting him in comparison to the other lurkers
Now farside brings me up and I get a yabba FOS

The only read he's properly explained is his read on startransmission, and even then there isn't much. see 341

I've already replied to the both of them with the issues.

[yabbaguy]

And I am busy. And unmotivated. That is not a scum-tell.

Anti-Town points racked up in excess do eventually equate to scum points. Especially in a game where we're slogging through and with multiple slots that were a complete blank.

Jackalope's town flip just convinces me more that you are the scum in that you led the wagon on him but weren't the primary contributors to his case. A jackalope lynch was easy--transmission lurked and jackalope didn't put up much of a fight. Now you're going after a person with relatively the same activity level. Why? I'm an easy lynch, too. I haven't done much to effect that game and am in a pull of null reads. I would have preferred a lynch of you yesterday, but that wasn't about to happen, and felt that jackalope had the secondmost points against him, but they were largely a result of the pressure forming against him.

(No C in Jakalope.)

You're trying to equate the two. And no, I would not call it a similar activity level, I would call it you making a greater quantity of posts, most of which contributed little-to-nothing or showed very little effort towards helping out. I don't buy it. Especially considering that you BOUGHT the Jakalope case. So is it a matter of "you meanie, you tricked me"?

Also, on the results of the night phase: the fact that there were no kills makes me think that there are no vigs or SK's (I suppose one-shot vig could exist). I highly doubt the chance of two successful doc-blocks in one night.

Docs slash blocks? Could be either.

Suspicions are massively elevating that Jora could be scum as well, though. My mind is actually really aching right now, in particular, wondering if in fact a fluke has occurred and the SK didn't kill/missed deadline/got doc'd/blocked and the Mafia did one of the above as well, suggesting that we have both an SK and Mafia in the game, but I'm content to stick the vote on Toasty. It's all a game of probability as I learned harshly not that long ago, but probability from what I've gleaned suggests that it's probably Toast.

I'm not seeing this case on TT, Yaba.

Did you read it, or are you just yawning and saying "Nah, don't feel it. Meh."? You're driving me up the wall here.

[yabbaguy]

Whatever about the percentage crap, I meant that in jest. No answer to any question regarding that. As for the SK discussion, I did forget about the fact that there was a multi-kill N0 and then a vig flip, but, and call me crazy if you will, I'm still not entirely sold about being able to dismiss SK as a possibility. Could've been SK and Maf shooting with Vig inhibiting their kill. Does Romanus seem the sort to attempt an N0 vig?

That said, happy to assume no SK. I will concede that statistical likelihood suggests against an SK existing.

Not to mention that I was the first going against jora and I challenged cjdrum actively.

Among not much else, Toast. I mean, you're still here not looking at much else in the game, just lazily fending off my suspicions as if it's supposed to make ME look like scum. So that point sticks.

And then there's Yabba, but I'd be more confident following yesterday's case if he didn't say he was sure based on "self-confidence bias."

Huh?

Where do these numbers come from? I mean, I can see from the fact that you constantly have consecutive numbers consecutive in the the string of digits that you keymashed, but why numbers and why did you pick something around 90% as opposed to, oh, say, 95% or 80% or something? (no, I'm not just nitpicking on something meaningless)

The fact that I'm even >50% sure should be deemed unusual. You know me and my probability sentiments.

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I realize I'm not getting the most brilliant people here as backers to my wagon, but come on. I've already told you why Jora has Town intent, and I fail to see how cjdrum is even being considered as possible scum. Sundy, I'm looking at you.

[yabbaguy]

Can we agree on terminology here? I think "scum" should be defined as a supercategory of Mafia and SK. Makes the most sense to me.

[yabbaguy]

The scummy content from Toast is the lack thereof. Simple. ISO and you judge it.

[yabbaguy]

Sundy's one of those you just say "ah, yeah, seems Town" and just never bat an eye at. I went through the ISO and couldn't find as great an extent of uselessness from Sundy as I've found from Toasty. Meta-diving might help, but it has almost always fucked up my analysis. Just like every other probability-based tell. (I still can't get over that.) ._.

Again, Toast keeps trying to equate himself to Jakalope lynch, which simply isn't true. Jakalope was a lynch for being a dumb and lurky slot. Toast is actually trying to sound like he's contributing, but the plurality, maybe majority of his posts, just don't appear to actually advance towards scumhunting. I don't need a case; I think it's evident from the ISO.

I know there's a word for constantly wanting to think that someone's scum, but I really think I've got this one.

[yabbaguy]

cjdrum wagon is AWFUL. havingfitz spews bullshit and starts it, then DRK and Toast just fly onto it. AWFUL wagon.

(That said cjdrum, "_____ much?" is awful. Socrates is the keeper of overused buzzwords in his sig, I hope he's still active.)

Something's up with cj wagon. Probably is TT, but I have to consider DRK as potentially just the fly-by player that's also been using the "sorry, I'm busy" excuse for not participating in the game. I really, really, really, really, really want to flip TT first.

Also, I just wanna point this out, lack of content and lurking are two different things. You have lack of content. The two guys behind me were lurkers.

This, or something close to it, is why Toasty's point of "I'm just like the Jak lynch" is simply wrong.

[yabbaguy]

@farside: Second is probably ZeroFang as I look at it. I've gotta be really careful here, but it's sort of a conditional on ToastyToast flipping Mafia. Fang is being very anti-Toast at the moment, which pleases me, but in such an outspoken and vote-free way that it could actually just be a distancing tactics. Realizing that ZeroFang is sort of on a quasi-V/LA at the moment with his limited laptop access, I bet it's a lukewarm suspicion-flinging at Toast.

[yabbaguy]

@farside:

What about Sundy? TT is very anti Sundy. Sundy is very anti-TT.

This is wrong. How did you come up with this?

In other words I did agree that your scum calls were during times that others had already called out those people.

I think I blatantly did that with the star wagon. As for the ToastyToast wagon, I don't know who else was on, and frankly, I don't care. There, I just said "hey, suspicious person" and went FoS followed by Vote once we dispensed with Jak.

[yabbaguy]

TT said he found the case on Sundy the same was the case against Jak and Sundy doesn't mention TT and calls myself and ZF scummy.

I'm confused. Anti-each other means that they actually find each other scummy, which they don't. The former, comparing Sundy to Jak-Town means he thinks that Sundy is Town and about to be lynched for the same crappy reasons. Sundy not mentioning TT simply doesn't fit the definition.

As for ZeroFang and Toast, ZeroFang's always saying that Toast is scummy, but never backs it up with a vote or a helluva lotta conviction.

[yabbaguy]

That makes more sense. Right.

So initially, I meant that ZF really seemed like he wanted to lynch Toast, but in such an outspoken way. He's very pro-Toast lynch, it appears, but he hasn't supported it with a lot of conviction.

[yabbaguy]

@ZF: What do you need to know before the Day ends? I have respect for those who realize that votes have the dual-function of also wanting to end the Day, but I'm not sure what makes you think the Day needs to continue.

@Sundy: Why are you still sitting on your ass? What's prohibiting you from making a vote?

[yabbaguy]

Yeah. Since when did the apple get a vote to lynch?

But honestly, what's wrong with Toasty? cjdrum is obvious Mcobvious Town and I bet you know it.

[yabbaguy]

I don't even know what to say at this point, I don't think we have the votes to push Toast forward unless someone would wisen up and realize the case is all there.

farside turning her back at the critical moment baffles me, furthered by the fact that she is now voting Sundy's suspect.

More later.

[yabbaguy]

Whoa.

Unvote

[yabbaguy]

Oh wait,

Vote: ToastyToast

Sorry, I forgot ZeroFang said he would eventually. I thought that was scummy opportunism at first, but no, no, I'm an idiot, and it's my scumday besides. ._.

[yabbaguy]

Jora, as much as I'm going to regret saying this, what the hell are you doing on the wagon if you think the hammer shouldn't happen? Voting is a dual-edge thing, you both suspect the person, but also are reasonably satisfied that the Day should end.

I have no qualms about a hammer (even though I originally thought ZF was an opportunist, that's obviously wrong). Unless someone thinks we're actually omitting something very critical right now, someone needs to come over and end the misery.

[yabbaguy]

So Yabba: Your fine with ZF's lack of comment and vote on TT while really offering nothing of value to the game today? Why?

You've lost me a bit with that question.

ZeroFang and Toast both have a very low activity level overall. I'm not surprised ZeroFang has just reverted to his old lurky McLurkerson ways, and Toast's post size is low. Again, I still prefer the latter since I think the content's been lower than usual. We're hitting massive brickwalls here and ToastyToast really should've been the lynch ages ago.

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Buddy propsect with Toast that's jumping out is Sundy. I'm looking at this...

@ZF: Why is Toast scummy for his vote and not Fitz, DRK, CJ & Jora, who also hopped on a bandwagons with limited reasoning?

and just the general lack of other mentions to Toast, and I think I have a lead presuming Toast flips red.

[yabbaguy]

What makes this buddying and not a legitimate question? ZF challenging me because of my vote, but ignoring the others IS something that can be scummy. This is a bad link between us, but his ignoring me is valid.

It pings as possible buddying because of the fact that Sundy's trying to do the work of what scum usually do ("There are better choices than me!") That's what I was after.

[yabbaguy]

This is a poor choice. I'd really rather table DRK seeing how Town he was in the former part of the game as I see it. We can revisit it on a later Day, but honestly, fuck that wagon. Toast is guilty of the same effects of active lurking and uselessness and still hasn't helped out the Town.

iiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii hate this gammmmmmmmmmmmmme so mucccccccch. ._.

[yabbaguy]

WHAT THE FUCK I GOT PRODDED? :'(

So much for that untarnished record. I'm swarmed tonight, but realizing the deadline warning, I'll have something tomorrow.

[yabbaguy]

Well at this point, inactivity can't be considered a scumtell at all.

I still consider:

cjdrum/CDB to be a terrible wagon
DRK to be a complacency wagon.
Toast to be the good wagon.

Preferences, everyone? We need to set priorities in order to get a wagon assembled by deadline. Although my mind is spinning in all the mass absences we've had in the game.

[yabbaguy]

That's a Toast voter. Phew.

[yabbaguy]

Oh nonono. Don't do CDB. Pleasepleaseplease realize that your cases are rubbish and swap to one of the other two.

AntB's claiming vanilla in Near-Vanilla was a towntell. I said as much in game, and even though I was scum, it's true. Scum know there's at least one doctor or roleblocker, and if there's a roleblocker and scum get lynched, it's game over for them.

You're making the mistake I've made for months on end, you're presuming that everyone's psychology falls in line with yours.

@farside: pay more attention please. I already said Sundy-buddy and that DRK's super Town play earlier is confounding my thoughts of him being scum for his pathetic play this Day.

Hang on, I can't copy paste Magua's bullshit about me and CDB and cjdrum. I'll be back to kick his ass in a bit.

[yabbaguy]

I suggest two extra days

[yabbaguy]

Have you forgotten how this game works?

Anyway- whoa. I'll be back later.

[yabbaguy]

Request replacement

I am being a debilitating component of this game with my severe inactivity. Sorry all, but my personal project is taking up far too much of my free time. I'll be back in the Mafia forums soon, don't worry.

[yabbaguy]

I

a) think I would've lost all the same
b) that being said, think that Midnight's Sorrow has no excuse for playing that LyLo in piss-poor fashion.
c) really am peeved that we were latched onto so quickly outright. What did I do wrong?
d) did not play that pseudo-Blocker strategy correctly. I guess I would've been detected if I tried to claim a powerrole somehow - but I was trying to play D2 as if I had claimed I had blocked Toast and felt something was up. Having a Doctor gives me the fallback of "oops, he prolly did it instead" but then the C9++ formula probably would've outed my claim as false.

[yabbaguy]

If MS and Sundy are happy to post it, I'm good to go.