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Because I'm terrible at making questionsstartransmission wrote:
Then why aren't you?ToastyToast wrote:RQS? I would do it to get the game moving"A train robbery is where you take a train to your destination, make your move, and take a train back, right?"-Isaac
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I have, but I often ask questions and then get people like yabbaguy there on my back.
whatever, I'll ask some
How much should we rely on setup speculation?
How do you think the events of N0 played out?"A train robbery is where you take a train to your destination, make your move, and take a train back, right?"-Isaac
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Actually, RQS is helpful because you get reactions. I use it to reactionfish. And, yeah, they are my questions, so you should be voting me.DRK wrote:Have you actually seen the RQS so far from this game? RQS very rarely accomplishes anything at all and it's been even less productive than usual by a large margin. Wanting to continue it is completely absurd.
Your questions give us nothing to look at in terms of scumhunting. At all. Period. I don't know what you could possibly think we'd get out of them.
Given that your vote is based on both the questions themselves and }|{opa's response, I would venture to say that it is helpful."A train robbery is where you take a train to your destination, make your move, and take a train back, right?"-Isaac
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@}|{: Don't limit yourself to an SK already. I've been in c9 games where the vig did shoot N0, and it paid off. A similar thing could have happened in this N0.
SK's are in c9 50% of the time, but the fact that a vig died N0 tells us nothing about the presence of an SK"A train robbery is where you take a train to your destination, make your move, and take a train back, right?"-Isaac
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No, we could have a one-shot vig tooDeathRowKitty wrote:Stop speculating about the setup -__-
If there are 2 kills tonight, we know there's an sk. Until then, it doesn't matter.
Mod, can you fix the first quote tag in my previous post, please?>.<"A train robbery is where you take a train to your destination, make your move, and take a train back, right?"-Isaac
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It happened in my last C9, so I'm not closing it off. But, as you said earlier, i'm done with setup speculation."A train robbery is where you take a train to your destination, make your move, and take a train back, right?"-Isaac
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@farside: so, you being frightened by the change from DRK's scumplay gives you a town-read? just clarifying because the word "frightened" suggests suspicion.
@}|{: If you think DRK is mafia Godfather, why aren't you voting for them? Does the single post by startransmission really outweight your accusation on DRK?
Also, wouldn't any mafia member be targeting a cop? Why does this make DRK mafia Godfather?
@DRK: response to }|{'s post?
@everyone else (excluding yabbaguy, I don't have anything to ask him): Why aren't you saying anything?
To get off my RVS, I'm voting for my #1 suspectUnvote:Vote:}|{opa"A train robbery is where you take a train to your destination, make your move, and take a train back, right?"-Isaac
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I originally had a town read on him, but his last post gave terrible reasons for a vote. Also, it doesn't make sense to me why he would call DRK Mafia Godfather then not put a vote down. I, too, have a town-read on DRK and find his suspicions illogical. Also, I think }|{opa himself is trying to fish for the cop. Of course there is an alternative explanation but that would require a role claim that I do not want to hear."A train robbery is where you take a train to your destination, make your move, and take a train back, right?"-Isaac
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Actually, I saw this
Would someone who is either godfather or cop ask this? NO}|{opa wrote:@ Mod: Do Godfather appears innocent to Cop?
Would a cop blatantly reveal themselves to remaining scum with this breadcrumb? NO
Isn't it logical to vote for the person you suspect the MOST? I'm looking for the challenge or interrogation of DRK, but all I see is: "this person is mafia godfather" It also comes off as defensive suspicions. DRK and TT think I'm scum? IN THAT CASE..."A train robbery is where you take a train to your destination, make your move, and take a train back, right?"-Isaac
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When I see people voting for lurkers, I feel as if they are trying to go for an easy lynch. So, I have a problem with it.
But You didn't really answer my question. If you expect me to vote or if you want to convince town, I need more evidence than one sentence.
Also, my vote on you isn't OMG SCUM, but I do find you scummy. Other players need to get in here, I'm not denying that--I just find your vote lacking and am unconvinced on your defense regarding searching for cop."A train robbery is where you take a train to your destination, make your move, and take a train back, right?"-Isaac
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I was voting Yabba
I explained why I didnt start RQS. I can link some games where my questions were viewed as completely unhelpful, if u'd like."A train robbery is where you take a train to your destination, make your move, and take a train back, right?"-Isaac
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Cjdrum and animorpherv I see as possibilities. startransmission is a legit lurker, thats true. DRK I'm not seeing.
Not to mention that cjdrum and animorpherv have avatars FROM THE SAME SHOW. just thought it was wierd, maybe they know each other."A train robbery is where you take a train to your destination, make your move, and take a train back, right?"-Isaac
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I'm expecting a lot of pictures of me being eaten.DeathRowKitty wrote:got caught up in marathon games and kind of neglected regular games
Will catch up and post later today."A train robbery is where you take a train to your destination, make your move, and take a train back, right?"-Isaac
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Unvote:}|{opaI'm going to have to examine the arrival of havingfitz and sundy.
Can we agree to call }|{opa OPA from now on? its getting to be a pain and hard to read when saying it over and over again."A train robbery is where you take a train to your destination, make your move, and take a train back, right?"-Isaac
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lol DRK u sigged me <3
I looked at Sundy, I'm seeing town. His responses to the RQS were quality and his vote on me seems honest
I looked at havingfitz, and I'm seeing null. i don't like his 113.
I looked at startransmision. his "useful post" says nothing
I just noticed this by cjdrum
Scum like to congratulate themselves, especially in a game like this when there are kills but no suspicion on anyone yet.cjdrum wrote: And, how lucky is it (for the Mafia) that they got the Vig, and for us that the Vig got his kill in (on a Mafioso), too! The irony.
cj has other odd posts like this, like subtly suggesting that having a SK in game is a good thing.
Something about his/her attitude--havingfitz picked up on it earlier. Unless he intends to have this "TEEHEE" thing the whole game, or if its meta, I find it scummy.
I don't see any of the wagons right now, soVote:cjdrum"A train robbery is where you take a train to your destination, make your move, and take a train back, right?"-Isaac
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1 isn't true AT ALL.cjdrum wrote: 1) SKs basically never win. They aren't exactly thestrongestplayers - they have only one death and their kill is gone, and want to kill Mafiaas well asTown. In fact, it makes more sense for the SK to start on Mafia, as if the endgame comes with >1 Mafia vs. SK, Mafia wins.
2) I intended that post to be jocular and not-to-be-taken-seriously. Turns out, the above thinking leaked through, but this was my original intention.
2. Thats part of my point. Your posts have ALL had that same tone. Unless its meta, its odd and distracting.
Also funny that you decide to post only when I vote you."A train robbery is where you take a train to your destination, make your move, and take a train back, right?"-Isaac
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Its null, my votes intent was to draw cjdrum out. I read one of HF's posts and found the same oddities he mentioned.DeathRowKitty wrote:
What are your opinions on cjd also including the reverse of that?TT wrote:Scum like to congratulate themselves, especially in a game like this when there are kills but no suspicion on anyone yet.
And yes, you have been sigged
It worked, and now he's voting me as his defense! lol"A train robbery is where you take a train to your destination, make your move, and take a train back, right?"-Isaac
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If you want me off your back, then form a case with support plz.
Your posts stuck out when I ISO'd the lurkers."A train robbery is where you take a train to your destination, make your move, and take a train back, right?"-Isaac
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there's a difference between banter based on experiences with a player elsewhere and speaking of game mechanics.
and it would have drawn you out if you were reading the game w/o posting
^^I stand by the other comment you pointed out, but, honestly, look at the player list:
Who has contributed: DRK, farside, havingfitz, me, opa, yabba
I've spoken with each of them, and don't see them as scum
So I HAVE to look at the people slipping under the radar. I looked at sundy and startransmission, the next most active, and didn't find them scummy either. Then I looked at you and found something.
Not hypocritical, just me going down the list.
Also, the "do they know each other?" was a legitimate question. Given that I've had enough crappy experience with people who know each other outside game and decided to cheat with each other, eventually resulting in a mass replacement--I can ask that.
Well then, what other input do you have on this game? Seems to me that your acting as if I'm the only one here, the only one who voted you out of suspicion."A train robbery is where you take a train to your destination, make your move, and take a train back, right?"-Isaac
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Unvote:cjdrumNo longer on my scumlist.
I find farside to be intimidating (she controls the open themes!), but not scum.
I need to make a legit list if i'm going to figure this out...just so friggin lazy right now."A train robbery is where you take a train to your destination, make your move, and take a train back, right?"-Isaac
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If fluff is an opinion, how can it be a misrep?havingfitz wrote:
Other various reasons? You mean "'not reading" [misrep] and "fluff" [opinion...misrep].farside22 wrote:I also listed other various reason I find you scum in my last post. And yes when I ask someone twice forotherreason's they find a person scummy and I get nothing but the same garbage over and over I will accuse that player of not reading and skimming the game.
For continuing to push a non existent case and misrepping my actions...which are there for all to see.
VOTE: farside22
Don't ask me for more reasons becuase the ones mentioned above are all I have atm.
Farside made her case, so I can argue that "non-existent case"=a misrep too
I also don't like the last line. You don't have anymore reasons for a vote other than farsides accusation for you.
Pushing a case that no one else is on is not scummy. TBH, you are an active player but I haven't clearly understood your reasons for votes. In your defense, I can tell that you are reading.
@cjdrum: Why exactly is keeping things under control scummy?"A train robbery is where you take a train to your destination, make your move, and take a train back, right?"-Isaac
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I still think this farside-havingfitz argument is town on town. It seriously has turned into "yes it is, no it isn't."
More in a few! For reals this time!"A train robbery is where you take a train to your destination, make your move, and take a train back, right?"-Isaac
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what about these three things gives you a town-read?startransmission wrote:Always fun drudging through setup guessing.
Opa... the self vote, the invisible text. The vote on me. Yep, pretty sure he's town.
Could you clarify your stance on this? it seems like you are taking far's side (teehee punny) w/o explaining what about it is "interesting"start wrote:
I agree, that wagon is the most interesting thing in the game so far. Farside attacking yabbas vote on havingfitz is interesting as well. I don't find that an empty vote at all, but a justified one. Oh well, farside comes around to the havingfitz wagon eventually.
Hmmm, this could be a joke...or it could be ZOMG SCUM SLIP KILL ITDeathRowKitty wrote:Gosh, I could be scum lurking right now and no one would even notice me! (prod-dodge and promise to maybe theoretically post tonight possibly)
DRK, you say you are happy with your startransmission vote. How strong is your scum read on him?
@bv310: still waiting for you to say something
I was hoping my startrasmission ISO would help get me into this game, but I'm still at a loss as to who we suspect. I find little scum motivation behind the active players, so think questioning the lurkers should be done to a larger extent (yeah, this includes me)."A train robbery is where you take a train to your destination, make your move, and take a train back, right?"-Isaac
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@Havingfitz: What about DRK's popping in and out of the game causes you to vote in comparison to the other lurkers who are doing the same thing? Couldn't come up with a better way to phrase that question..."A train robbery is where you take a train to your destination, make your move, and take a train back, right?"-Isaac
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I can see bv310 scum, but am unsure about Sundy. His vote on me was odd but I saw it as a legitimate mistake of fact. On the other hand, it was still a terrible reason to vote me.
And I'm sorry about the lurking, farside, finals coming up."A train robbery is where you take a train to your destination, make your move, and take a train back, right?"-Isaac
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ani/bv have posts a grand total of 7 posts! That ISO sure was useful!
You want me to explain my lack of scumhunting? Its the fact that this game has a curse of inactivity, and so I have no good information to bite on. I have no strong reads one way or the other.
Of all the active players, yabba has acted the most scummy.
@farside: If you are referencing the fact that I'm more active in other games, know that I consider those games to be more important because something is actually going on.
A few comments on yabba:
Looking back on his ISO, he has changed his stance in almost every argument
It went from "jora wagon is bad" to "jora is scummy" with no vote
After jora wagon faded it went to "havingfitz" had the worst hop on the wagon, even though he probably gave the most reasons for his vote.
Then he votes startransmission when everyone begins the lurker-hunt. startransmission had the more people suspecting him in comparison to the other lurkers
Now farside brings me up and I get a yabba FOS
I like DRK's argument but am unwilling to vote Sundy atm, and bv has too little information to warrant a vote.
Therefore,Vote:yabbaguyHe's my best bet right now"A train robbery is where you take a train to your destination, make your move, and take a train back, right?"-Isaac
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my posting has remained consistent in the game. Posted quotes were marking my frustration with this game.
So you are now voting me because I'm stalling?
I've been plenty active in 1) the opa wagon and 2) my calling out on cjdrum. To say that I am stalling is BS.
Have I faded into the background? Yeah, but I am not stalling."A train robbery is where you take a train to your destination, make your move, and take a train back, right?"-Isaac
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@farside: They both are contributing factors. Since I've been busy IRL, I've ultimately had to reduce my time on the site across the board. When I do catch up, this one tends to come last because I rarely see anything new. It was just a giant argument between you and havingfitz for days, which gave me no information other than causing me to see you both as town.
ZeroFang wrote:ToastyToast wrote:I'm expecting a lot of pictures of me being eaten."A train robbery is where you take a train to your destination, make your move, and take a train back, right?"-Isaac
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BUTTERED TOAST
DRK: I don't think her arguments are based on emotion; love her 309. The inactive to active means nothing, and she is scum-hunting better than most in this game
Havingfitz AND farside22: I've already mentioned that I think its town on town. The points got weak over time, but more importantly no one seemed to comment on it. Scum probably didn't care either way, and were waiting for townies to pick sides. No one did.
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Zerofang (leaning town): Lack of info from ani/bv made me suspicious, but Zero has redeemed his slot with all the recent goodposting
cjdrum: responses to my vote was good, but I still don't like his 'joking' approach (past games might be helpful for comparisons)
Sundy: Really have no opinion on him. Couldn't find anything significant in my ISO of him; wiling to change his vote in light of new evidence is a good quality, but null nonetheless.
Jora (leaning scum): I didn't like his early game, and some of his more recent posts, like recommending cjdrum unvote, disagree with most of his reads. On the other hand, he has calmed down since the wagon and could simply be having the same problem as me in regards to getting into the game.
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yabbaguy:I'm voting him. The only read he's properly explained is his read on startransmission, and even then there isn't much. see 341
TheJackalope: His recent vote on yabba makes me uncomfortable. Startransmission never helped out town. The fact that there is no large wagon makes this a perfect time for distancing. Startransmission never game his scumreads, I would like a more complete stance by Jackalope."A train robbery is where you take a train to your destination, make your move, and take a train back, right?"-Isaac
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Unvote:Vote: Jackalope
Already explained that I have a scum-read on him. Definitely okay with this lynch."A train robbery is where you take a train to your destination, make your move, and take a train back, right?"-Isaac
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Well I can't really respond to that...the only things you seem to have stated against me are my telling jora to unvote himself and my later "sorry, I'm busy" remarks throughout the game.
I already explained that I saw no reason to unvote jora at the time, but that his self-vote was anti-town in the situation that he is town. It was way to quick to lynch someone, and his vote wasn't helping matters. I didn't want to unvote him because I had no other strong suspects. Never did after that either.
And I am busy. And unmotivated. That is not a scum-tell.
Jackalope's town flip just convinces me more that you are the scum in that you led the wagon on him but weren't the primary contributors to his case. A jackalope lynch was easy--transmission lurked and jackalope didn't put up much of a fight. Now you're going after a person with relatively the same activity level. Why? I'm an easy lynch, too. I haven't done much to effect that game and am in a pull of null reads. I would have preferred a lynch of you yesterday, but that wasn't about to happen, and felt that jackalope had the secondmost points against him, but they were largely a result of the pressure forming against him.
Also, on the results of the night phase: the fact that there were no kills makes me think that there are no vigs or SK's (I suppose one-shot vig could exist). I highly doubt the chance of two successful doc-blocks in one night."A train robbery is where you take a train to your destination, make your move, and take a train back, right?"-Isaac
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Are you kidding?
@Mod: Do SK have to send in a kill each night?
From my experience, they usually have to do so.
Its whatI thinkhappened. Excuse the WIFOM, but mafia would not hold off on a kill this early.
Also, with a vig death and a mafia death N0, I am seeing that they killed each other. This only works when paired with tonights results. And vigs do shoot N0, happens all the time.
I'm not saying that there aren't other options, I'm just suggesting what I find the most likely and what I intend to be operating on. Instead of looking for individual scumminess, looking for associations (or lack thereof) will be more helpful.
And you mean the previous suspicion of me voting you? lol, yeah cuz those were great reasons. Where, after that little argument, did you mention suspicions on me?
when there is a case of crap upon more crap against me, I can't help but get frustrated.
jora gets scumpoints for saying its "all over" if I'm lynched, but its no different from his usual play
I can see cjdrum and yabba scum team. cjdrum does not once mention the jackalope wagon. NOT ONCE. Especially when getting close to deadline, you think he would consider it. Looks to me like distancing from a wagon for town credit. Instead he goes after ZF--but no vote!
yabba and cjdrum hardly mention one another. yabba does so only once, when cjdrum says he'll put a vote on ZF. And yet, we never hear a response. And now, instead of coming back and continuing a case on ZF, or giving an answer as to why he didn't put a vote down, he votes me."A train robbery is where you take a train to your destination, make your move, and take a train back, right?"-Isaac
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Sorry, but once again your responses fail to make any sense to me...
Ok, so SK can withhold a kill. I still think an SK would have gone for it, given his wincon is to be the last one standing.
And so you are saying that mafia wouldn't withold their kill? Isn't that what I was suggesting?
What person had to hold off on a kill to avoid people from thinking he was said role? More likely for an SK to pretend he was vig.
And its not a fast decision to make, its one I've been considering.
And the posts you linked of your suspicions on me are the exact same ones that were involved with the argument. You later unvoted and then said absolutely nothing about me. Then its BAM lets switch to farside, the opponent of the biggest wagon, for "keeping things under control."
And by saying that I'm looking for scumbuddies, I'm suggesting that you can't any associations with me and other players? Thats definitely not true, I have plenty.
The case on me D1 is crap, the case on D2 is non-existant
Your interpretation of my jora quote: thats incorrect. it means "Jora got an additional scum point there, but its not worth a vote"
Jackalope was L-1. It only required one person to lynch if it was necessary. You weren't going to be there so you should have placed your vote down where you thought it should be."A train robbery is where you take a train to your destination, make your move, and take a train back, right?"-Isaac
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Yet in that case there would have to be a kill first, and he would have to reveal his status as a vig, which has not happened."A train robbery is where you take a train to your destination, make your move, and take a train back, right?"-Isaac
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If this was merely a game of probability, then we'd be RVS everyday. But it isn't, because the actions of each player change said probability. Sounds like another "if i'm wrong, don't blame me!" post
I voted for jackalope, but would have much rather had you lynched. It wasn't going to happen
My questions were pointless? I was trying to get reactions. They may be pointless from your POV, but for me I was scum-hunting. Passively? yes, but I sure as hell was doing a lot more than the other lurkers. Not to mention that I was the first going against jora and I challenged cjdrum actively."A train robbery is where you take a train to your destination, make your move, and take a train back, right?"-Isaac
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@jora
1)Zerofang wasn't close to a lynch
2)Altough I am tasty (DRK and Zero both know), My name is ToastyToast
3) "for some reason" isn't much of a reason, and, as much as I agree that yabba and cjdrum ping scummy, its awfully convenient to say "all three are scum," when there is an argument between us (taking both sides)"A train robbery is where you take a train to your destination, make your move, and take a train back, right?"-Isaac
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1)Nope}|{opa wrote:Hmm...
1) Indeed. And this is no good. If you help me to change it, i'll unvote you.
2) Sorry, will not happen again.
3) 2 scums and one SK = three scums. Are you thinking that not all the bad guys are scums but only those who mafias?
2)No problem
3)No, all bad guys are scum. I'm wondering why you assume that cjdrum and yabba are a scum team who found an SK in me. It seems too convenient that you are essentially agreeing with both sides. You are also narrowing it down to a single option, which is what cjdrum attacked me for. Again, I am of the opinion that there is only a mafia team left, as an SK holding off a kill this early is unlikely and mafia could have been doc/blocked."A train robbery is where you take a train to your destination, make your move, and take a train back, right?"-Isaac
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@Farside: I know your question is for yabba, but I feel like posting about Sundy. Basically, I feel like we're going after him for reasons similar to Jackalope. in other words, the reasons aren't really accurate. I also don't see who Sundy's scumbuddies would be.
@ZF: Basically,this also my list
In my opinion, yabba has yet to make a good case, and I think he's looking for little things to attack on.
Which is itself not a great thing to determine scum. Again, remember Jackalope lynch? Same. Exact. Reasons. The difference? I actually popped in from time to time--see if I could get a reaction to questions, but this game was...well, boring, and I was busy.yabbaguy wrote:The scummy content from Toast is the lack thereof. Simple. ISO and you judge it."A train robbery is where you take a train to your destination, make your move, and take a train back, right?"-Isaac
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Yabba's reasons for wanting me lynch are general uselessness. The reasons we lynched Jak is as you said. Its the same argument.farside22 wrote:@TT: If you really believe that, then you are not reading the game. Jak was lynched for not provide anything useful to the game. He comes in as a replacement and only mentions Yabba and said nothing else about any of the players in the game. Sundy is a different story all together as I just mentioned before."A train robbery is where you take a train to your destination, make your move, and take a train back, right?"-Isaac
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It may be in a different style, but the central argument is founded on the same point. That not contributing always means scum. The same goes with Sundy, but its more like..."I will say something about my main scumread, but nothing more.""A train robbery is where you take a train to your destination, make your move, and take a train back, right?"-Isaac
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@Farside: Its obvious that I've suspected yabba from yesterday
cjdrum was already suspicious, my unvote didn't mean I was clearing him as town. It wasn't OMGUS. It was the fact that their arguments fail. sorry, but I still don't see the sundy case. Thats all there is to that one
@jora: 1)That means nothing. He could just as easily NOT kill me to avoid suspision
2) Lol suspicion based on style = bad. I just follow Andrius' "Townier Than Thou" lists.
3) Huh? You can't find anything but those points?
4) You can believe it is OMGUS if you want, but given that, as you said, I ALREADY SUSPECTED YABBA AND DID NOT CONSIDER CJDRUM TOWN.....not really OMGUS."A train robbery is where you take a train to your destination, make your move, and take a train back, right?"-Isaac
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Hmmm, yeah sorry, Farside. I have repeatedly said that I don't understand the Sundy lynch. I want a yabba or cjdrum lynch.
Also,@Sundy: I am not voting for cjdrum because I want people off of me, I am voting for him because I think he's scum and I seem to have more support on him than I do on yabba."A train robbery is where you take a train to your destination, make your move, and take a train back, right?"-Isaac
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1) Attitude, but that was ended with my 1st vote on you
2) You + Yabbaguy makes an awful lot of sense
3) Vote hopping: I can't track your train of thought at all, don't really know where your suspicions are...in contrast to farside, ZF, and even yabbaguy, you seem to be too flexible with your reads. A proper scum list on your part would be awfully nice plz
4) The point on which you attacked me today (my speculation) is not something I see to be enough to warrant a vote, and thus the only reason I see for your vote lies within yabba's own reasons. I just don't think there is an SK among us.
5) GUT, and its a strong one. My gut basically starts my case on you, and with a suspicion in mind I've been paying a lot of attention to your posts. So, little things stick out."A train robbery is where you take a train to your destination, make your move, and take a train back, right?"-Isaac
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Not really, if anything DRK's vote is scummier. I already stated cjdrum was on my scumlist, and I think he's scum with yabba. Since there were two votes on cjdrum and only mine on yabba, I have no problem lynching one of the two.ZeroFang wrote:Also, this vote is rediculously scummy. Like, not even funny rediculously scummy."A train robbery is where you take a train to your destination, make your move, and take a train back, right?"-Isaac
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What has cjdrum done to make him obvtown. Throwing the term around is one thing but actual proof is another. I've ISO'd cjdrum 2...maybe 3 times? and still do not see protown in him.yabbaguy wrote:Yeah. Since when did the apple get a vote to lynch?
But honestly, what's wrong with Toasty? cjdrum is obvious Mcobvious Town and I bet you know it."A train robbery is where you take a train to your destination, make your move, and take a train back, right?"-Isaac
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Well, I claim Vanilla Townie (not that that will change anyone's mind)
@HavingFitz: The list was in no particular order.
And its notsomuch that my reasons for lynching cjdrum change so much as it is I added reasons to lynch him. Was my first vote to draw him out? Yeah, but there's a reason I picked him over other lurkers in the game.
I have nothing else to say, figured my disinterest would get me lynched eventually."A train robbery is where you take a train to your destination, make your move, and take a train back, right?"-Isaac
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