Open 318: By Nomination Only (Game Over)

[Quilford]

UNVOTE:

reading mmmm

[Quilford]

from VCA alone
at least 1 of {Papa Zito, Twistedspoon} is scum (early NS wagon)
at least 1 of {zMuffinMan, Twistedspoon, Fenchurch, Papa Zito} is scum (Amrun wagon)
at least 1 of {VitaminR, zMuffinMan, Twistedspoon, Copper, Papa Zito} is scum (Hoopla wagon)

VOTE: Papa Zito

Reading the thread over the course of today.

[Quilford]

from VCA alone
at least 1 of {Papa Zito, Twistedspoon} is scum (early NS wagon)
at least 1 of {zMuffinMan, Twistedspoon, Fenchurch, Papa Zito} is scum (Amrun wagon)
at least 1 of {VitaminR, zMuffinMan, Twistedspoon, Copper, Papa Zito} is scum (Hoopla wagon)

VOTE: Papa Zito

Reading the thread over the course of today.

VOTE: Twistedspoon

Don't be expecting me to make massive catch up walls.

[Quilford]

zMuffinMan, explain your early town read on Papa Zito and why you weren't voting for him just then

[Quilford]

no no no

zMuffin is town because mafia would not call each other strong town reads

they just wouldn't

there's no wifom involved

[Quilford]

rory papa zito was accusing malpa of being scum for most of the time he was alive

ill need to read their interactions though so I can determine whether it was distancing or not, because nobody ever jumped on his wagon iirc

[Quilford]

Vote Count 3.08

Papa Zito (5) - Twistedspoon, Rory the Roman, Fenchurch, Quilford, BBmolla
Rory the Roman (1) - zMuffinMan[/area]

This annoys me and TS is obv-town upon ISO

UNVOTE: VOTE: zMuffinMan
although at the moment I think more likely that scum have not nominated themselves; BBmolla tops the scum list for a weak catch-up post

will have to review his previous player's actions and see if this suspicion still makes sense though D:

and I will have to take a look into PZ's malpa suspicions D: D:

[Quilford]

I'll give you a chance to re read the thread, but I will say now, I'm quite willing to hammer Zito.

townslipppppp?

[Quilford]

I'll give you a chance to re read the thread, but I will say now, I'm quite willing to hammer Zito.

townslipppppp?

Au contraire

it seems to imply that there will be a night phase?

[Quilford]

will have to review [BBmolla's] previous player's actions and see if this suspicion still makes sense though D:

Oh damnit Copper was town

and I will have to take a look into PZ's malpa suspicions D: D:

weak and ill-formed I think


so topping the scum charts are malpa and Vitamin - I need to read fenchurch soon

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malpa, what difference would it make if I read the thread before or after the hammer

if there was a night phase I would not be able to post though

[Quilford]

from VCA alone
at least 1 of {Papa Zito, Twistedspoon} is scum (early NS wagon)
at least 1 of {zMuffinMan, Twistedspoon, Fenchurch, Papa Zito} is scum (Amrun wagon)
at least 1 of {VitaminR, zMuffinMan, Twistedspoon, Copper, Papa Zito} is scum (Hoopla wagon)

VOTE: Papa Zito

Reading the thread over the course of today.

and then this goes and casts doubt on my malpa and vitamin reads

[Quilford]

I'm now pretty certain that lynching Fenchurch, malpa and Vitamin will win the game.

Right now I'm thinking Fenchurch first just from what other people have been saying about her making good sense, like Rory above. imma go read her posting nowish hopefully

malpa's really swingy in my reads

[Quilford]

Out of those three, I would lynch zMuffinman. Twisted would be a far away second, and Quilford would be a miles away third.

It depends on what Mykonian wants to do.

lulzzzz

[Quilford]

malpa, what do you think about Vitamin?

[Quilford]

super confused as to why obvtown Twisted has been nominated. imma check whether anyone considers Twisted to be scum at this point

[Quilford]

super confused as to why obvtown Twisted has been nominated. imma check whether anyone considers Twisted to be scum at this point

i'm going to dismiss this and say it's just scum wifoming us for now


Further reasoning for a Vitamin/Fench scumteam - Fenchurch has been at Vitamin the ENTIRE game. And she puts him back at town because he lead a PZ wagon. How does she know he wasn't bussing? Timing's good, too; perhaps it's no longer a good idea to bus your partner when your only other buddy has been lynched and you're not fully clear of suspicion yourself?


look my mission is not to overthink this game. I want to lynch fench asap

[Quilford]

Not to do what?

Answer my question re: Vitamin plz

[Quilford]

So mal who do you think your vote will go with today?

And what do you think about Fenchurch

[Quilford]

Searching for a replacement for [..] zMuffinMan...[/color]

are you friggin' kidding me

[Quilford]

VOTE: Fenchurch

[Quilford]

That post is cute but

holy shit

it makes me want to lynch you

[Quilford]

I voted her because of her interactions with Papa Zito.

Your post contains copious amounts of terrible and begs me to switch my vote to you. It has all the appeals. ALL of them.

[Quilford]

Guys.

We still really need to lynch Fenchurch.

[Quilford]

Rory if you think it's a Fench/BB team you should vote Fench.

[Quilford]

TS is obv-town upon ISO

[Quilford]

My read on PZ

is

, currently, slightly-town. Based on his other actions as well. In #34 I was just saying that the claiming-tell is not strong (like, 1 point on a 100 point scale), as a couple of people were saying that I had a townread on him and I felt that was too far. Ultimately, I'm not fond of declaring people town early on, because I've seen games where scum get an easy ride that way.

This is incredibly scummy in light of PZ's flip...

and throughout Fenchurch's ISO I can see more of a case on PZ than anyone else and yet her first vote for him was day before yesterday

[Quilford]

Look, I don't really mind which one of molla and Fench we lynch. But I have a larger scum read on Fench and I think her flip will be helpful re: mafia voting patterns

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twisted you're just transparent that's all there is to it

[Quilford]

I have another reason but I'm not revealing it just yet.

[Quilford]

BBmolla (3) - VitaminR, malpascp, Rory the Roman
Fenchurch (3) - Quilford, BBmolla, Twistedspoon
malpascp (1) - Fenchurch

informal

[Quilford]

YES!

equinox you actually scared the shit out of me when you did this

[Quilford]

twisted you're just transparent that's all there is to it

I thought you knew better than to just dismiss me as that

remember my fakehammer on farside? How transparaent did you think that was eh?

You weren't transparent that game at all.

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Can someone hammer Fenchurch before she does BB?

[Quilford]

Unless they're scum together, in which case it's win-win

[Quilford]

God yes knew it was fen

[Quilford]

VOTE: malpa
More VCA coming soon.

[Quilford]

Humm.

Why did Fenchurch not hammer BB when she had the chance?

Assuming BB is town, Fenchurch should've hammered pronto to get herself through to lylo.
But if BB was scum, Fenchurch hammering would not clear herself of suspicion and she'd be down to one member.

I expressed this before the lynch, too, so Fenchurch could easily have taken advantage of it and be WIFOMing me from the grave.

[Quilford]

at least 1 of {

Papa Zito

, Twistedspoon} is scum (early NS wagon)
at least 1 of {

zMuffinMan

, Twistedspoon,

Fenchurch

,

Papa Zito

} is scum (Amrun wagon)
at least 1 of {VitaminR,

zMuffinMan

, Twistedspoon, Copper,

Papa Zito

} is scum (Hoopla wagon)

Assuming all three scum wouldn't pack onto the Amrun wagon - although it was competing with the PZ wagon, the first four votes on it happened before PZ gained two. I think we can clear Twisted here.

at least 1 of {

Papa Zito

,

Twistedspoon

} is scum (early NS wagon)
at least 1 of {

zMuffinMan

,

Twistedspoon

,

Fenchurch

,

Papa Zito

} is scum (Amrun wagon)
at least 1 of {VitaminR,

zMuffinMan

,

Twistedspoon

, Copper,

Papa Zito

} is scum (Hoopla wagon)

Here's where we branch off a little. Hoopla was a nom' wagon. The other two players nommed that day were CES (me) and zMuffinMan. They're all town. So there's very little reason for scum to choose one over the other, apart from trying to maintain an image of consistency. Therefore, I'm not really considering the nom' VCAs.

Assuming malpa is town (if not the game's won):

Amrun

(6) -

Hoopla

,

Cogito Ergo Sum

,

Twistedspoon

,

Fenchurch

,

zMuffinMan

,

Papa Zito

Papa Zito (4) - VitaminR,

Amrun

, Rory the Roman,

malpascp

VitaminR (1) - Copper

Everything still points to it being between Rory and BB.

[Quilford]

rory protecting fenchurch last minute is noted. I will probably vote him tommorow

scum wouldn't do this after a lynch is inevitable

twisted your last few posts have strongly made me doubt my read on you

[Quilford]

But I'm still confident it's BB.

[Quilford]

I DO NOT WANT A SPEEDLYNCH

[Quilford]

upon rereading though I really see little way for it to not be copper glargh

VOTE: BBmolla

PEDIT: lol

[Quilford]

That's sweet.

[Quilford]

woo doubt

UNVOTE:

Twisted your reasoning for BB town please

PEdit: ...

[Quilford]

oh gog

does the thread not being locked signify a town win

[Quilford]

Oh hell to the yes.

Guess who never placed a vote on town (outside of nomination days where only town was nominated)?

[Quilford]

I think the setup's fine, personally, and I would play it again.

[Quilford]

also lol at less than 3 pages/day for the last 5 days

[Quilford]

Twisted, it was really obvious to me that you were town somehow, just from having played a brief Marathon game with you in which we were both scum. You were just very genuine in your thought processes?

Quilford, you did a good job replacing into this game. You got a good handle on the game very quickly.

I agree re: Twisted.

Vitamin my goal when I replaced in was to not overthink things at all. I'm sure I haven't read about thirty of the pages in this thread. And it worked, too; I think that'll be my strategy for now on. Thanks for that (pedit: you too, twisted)!

[Quilford]

can I nominate quilford for the best replacement scummy?

:D

that'd be great, but I doubt I'd get it!

[Quilford]

ewwww I forgot to disable smilies

[Quilford]

<3 equi

[Quilford]

They have to post it.

[Quilford]

>_> I didn't see any scum browsing the forum, but I saw Equi, so I assumed you were speaking to her

[Quilford]

It totally was ^_^

[Quilford]

Silly twisted.

This is probably the shortest period of time I've ever seen a game through to completion in.

Four days is biznasty shiznit (hopefully PZ gets the reference).

Copper read pretty town to me too (Faraday will prolly rage about this), but BB was

the

scumzorz.

[Quilford]

the

scumzorz.

This is actually a lie.

The things that made me vote for BB were the excuses for the unfinished catchup posts and how arduous a task he said it was, as well as the woe is me stance when he was at L-1.

Otherwise I read him as town.

[Quilford]

I have another reason but I'm not revealing it just yet.

Everyone on the D2 nominations had flipped town ergo everyone on the D4 nominations would also be town; I thought revealing this would give scum good cause to WIFOM us.

[Quilford]

hehehe